ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???!!!!! >Shiny Charm is now obtained

>>30417894
Good. It separates the people that actually give a shit about their dex and shinyfags.

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>>30417894
You can't complete what doesn't exist.

>>30417894
How is this a bad thing? Jesus Christ the fucking nitpicking on this board

Thank gods. Though I do wonder how much of the Natdex I got completed between X, AS, and Moon.

>>30417894
You can't finish nat dex right now.

>>30417894

What national dex?

>>30417894

You can't complete what doesn't exist.

If it means you can get the Charms easier, I don't care. Only autists ever bother with living dexes.

Btw, I wonder will we be able to use mons that are not from the Alolan dex or the ones you get via Island Scan online ? Since the Nat Dex is not anymore part of the actual games, will this affected what pokemon we can use ?

Nat dex isn't a thing anymore

What if the reason the National dex doesn't officially exist in SM is so they can introduce more Alola forms in Stars without it being a massive retcon?

>>30417894
the pokemon in the natdex that aren't in the regional dex are only obtainable by transfer, so it's not like you even have to put in any work to do it
it doesn't add any gameplay beyond logging into bank

>>30417894
>>now completing the National Dex is completely optional
Not if you don't want to get banned from /vp/ it's not

>>30417894
It was a great decision.

>>30417894

What is this "National Dex" you speak of? I'm not aware of such a thing.

>>30417894
Completing the National Dex was always optional?

>>30418483
It is literally impossible to catch 'em all. Tell me, where in game did you catch a Torracat? Not trade for one, not evolve into one, catch. Same with Rowlett where did you catch it? Not receive as a gift or breed, where did you catch it?

>>30417894
And what do you get for capturing all pokemon?

>>30417894
It was always optional. Every little quest aside from the main story in Pokemon has always been optional.

>>30418653

No, they put this new feature in the game called "trading!" You can use that to get everything!

>>30418653
That's a real fucking autistic way of looking at it

>>30417894
>you have to catch 300 mons instead of literally 1000+ to get it in this game!?
>reeeee

Please tell me you're not serious

>>30418288
Absolutely. I'm an autist for the dex and even I thought the nat was a bit excessive.

Shinies are just for fun.

I do a living dex to pass it on to the next game

good

the alolan dex is tedious enough to complete as it is

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>casualization is okay when it gets me the shiny charm easier

And it's still way too much work.

>>30418288
>i like catching the same mons over and over again
livingdex is piss easy to get

>>30419231
Yes.

>>30418087
>>30418262
>>30418268
This desu

>>30417894
What are you even fucking talking about. GF abolished the national dex. Also, how is this a bad thing?

>>30418366
ok everyone ignored this but what the fuck does that matter if its a new gen? theyd get new numbers anyway?

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>>30419231
>casualization meme
reminder this game is for kids

>>30419231
>casualization
yes, because not having to catch the 500 pokemon not in this game is so much easier than just moving them up from bank

>>30418653
You're incredibly unfunny for trying to be a smartass.

>>30418661
Nothing, there's no national dex so there isn't anything keeping track.

>>30418035
This.
Also I completed the national dex 3 times now. All I need to do is to just transfer my pokébank over and over.

So I'd rather get the shiny charm faster.

>>30418653
>It is literally impossible to catch 'em all.

The whole point of that was to incentives trading between friends, you moron. That's been a thing since the very first gen.

>>30419492
i don't understand why they didn't include at least something like a Friend Safari to get most of the remaining pokemon, this just feels like Ruby/Sapphire 2.0

>>30419583
Or like DP 2.0?
Or BW 2.0?
Hmm...

>>30417894
There literally is no national dex

>>30417894

They have to make up in some way for holding out Bank until motherfucking January.

>>30419231
>casualization

All the national dex boils down to in previous games is how many Pokemon from your last save you can stuff into a single save without getting bored by the process. Now it's a kept record in the Pokemon Bank app there's is no point in keeping track of everything but what's in the region specifically.

What's the point in locking the Shiny Charm behind what amounts to a save bonus for another game?

>>30418979
There is like only 800 plus pokemon tho...