So why does Cynthia keep reappearing and not the best antagonist

I'll always be waiting for him

Gamefreak's Lightning

>>30413920
Because he killed himself after finding out he was a hypocrite and/or his pokemon didn't want to fuck him.

Because She is best Pokéwoman.

>>30413920

Isn't N currently searching for the B/W protag?

He won't return til BW3/BW remakes. Or maybe he'll return in DP remakes like how Cynthia and Looker return everywhere else? That could be cool.

>>30413920
>Brainwashed hippie
>Good antagonist

It's literally that odd fairy parents episode with the clown

>>30414052
>>Brainwashed hippie
>>Good antagonist
Brainwashed hippie that learns to stop being such a hippie by the end and grows a respect for the protag that no other rival has ever had.
Yes, he is the best antagonist. He's a somewhat basic character in the grand scheme of things but what he has beats the hell out of anything else this series offers for characters.

>>30414118
>grows a respect for the protag that no other rival has ever had
If by respect you mean homosexual love, then sure, whatever floats your boat

>>30414408
>homo
It's at least bi because the player can be female

>>30414015
I thought it was the other way around.

Because Iris was a garbage champion

>>30414682
But she's the best champ, anon.

>>30414667
they're actually both searching for each other. N hasn't seen the BW1 protag since the end of BW1 and he wants to say thank you and show them how much he's grown as a person ect

>>30414682
What does that have to do with N

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>>30413920
Nintendo stopped wanting the fujoshit audience.
Though he's responsible for one of the single greatest cuckings in the manga

>>30413920
N ruined BW and BW2, we don't need him ruining anything else.

>>30413920

because cynthia's not an antagonist you fucking tool

>>30414782
Who was calling her one?
Really if N were to reappear he wouldn't be an antagonist either.

>>30414861
BW has Colress as a recurring character. It is what it is

>>30413951
>GF's lightning
>Only appeared in his own region's games

???

>>30414919
No anon he's talking about Cynthia

>>30414919
Cynthia is Gamefreak's Lightning, not N.

I'm completely fine with N not appearing, as his appearance wouldn't make sense at a Battle Tree, since he hates battling.

>>30413951
Except everyone, other than smelly unovashits, loves Cynthia.

>>30415038
this would be BW2 N tho, who is okay with battling (and is actually a smogonfag)

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>>30413920
>best antagonist this series has had?
here's your (You), now fuck off

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>>30413920
What do you mean? Gary's shown up a bunch of times.

>>30415087
Kek. What? How is N a Smogonfag?

>>30415078
>projecting this badly
I'm a Sinnohfag and think Cynthia's been overdone.

People in this thread just forgets how lovely N was a character. Can't wait for any semblance of returning of him for /vp/ to blow up.

Because outside of /vp/, Gen 5 is considered one of the worst.

>>30415169
>wah wah i'm a faggot stop hurting pokemon!
kys

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>>30415148
anon didnt you fight his BW2 weather teams?

>>30413920
Because her lust for young boys and girls is insatiable.

>>30415197
>no sub or SD on the ninjask
>no baton pass
Faggot doesn't know how to set up

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>>30415197
No, I didn't get B2/W2. What are the IVs and EVs of his team?

This seems like a fairly challenging team.

>>30414782
but cynthia still sucks and its an overrated and over glorified character.

>>30415102
Name a better one, smartypants

>>30415240
His dad. The actual antagonist of gen5

>>30414712
Why does N want Hilberts dick so much

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>>30415384
bc he changed N's world and saved him

>>30414712
Where is Hilbert anyway?

>>30415428
Is that fanart or...?

>>30415384
He wants to get to him before that slut in short shorts does

>>30415497
No, Anon, clearly it's official art. You can tell because it never appeared anywhere in the games.
Did you just never play Gen 5 or are you retarded? Or both?

>>30415496
fucked off somewhere on a journey??? I think there's data of Hilda/Hilbert being in PWT but in the actual game they never made it in, so

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>>30415496
The world may never know

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>>30413920
He's getting a Generations episode tomorrow, if that means anything

>>30415534
I only played Black and White (over 4 years ago) and I don't remember that you fucking dick.

>>30415562
Holy shit yes! I thought there was no hope left. He looks good as well.

>>30415236

Don't know about I.V's but in game trainers never had effort values before SM.

>>30415131
>Mr "I am going to act cocky and become champion even though you beat me every single time"

>>30415737
They did in Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness. But I guess that's because Game Freak didn't make it.

>>30413920
¿Por qué no las dos?

>>30414993
I love how people forget that Looker has shown up in as many or more games than Cynthia but don't apply the Lightning logic to him.

>>30415561
can someone explain this image

>>30416818

Maybe it's bc he's not waifu bait
He's getting a lot of love in Pokémon Generations too

How the fuck did he have a castle buried under the pokemon league again?

>>30416818
And people never mentioned how much Square Enix shilled Warrior of Light.

>>30416833
Pokemon Special has been pulling some digimon shit with fusions for a while.
Hilbert/Black/White/I don't know which fused with Reshiram, then Reshiram went dormant and flew off somewhere. The plotline hasn't been picked back up in a long while.

>>30413920
Because all Gamefreak does a majority of the time is push Genwun and low tier waifu bait and both work every time.

>>30416950
Magic of shit tier storytelling
I'm honestly amazed that this episode put in anime form somehow manages to look even MORE retarded

>>30416950
Denis was the one that made the castle.

>>30417091
>>30417102

Let's all remember that they had the help of Pokemon. Just about anything is possible with the power/help of Pokemon at your becking.

Steven is actually more popular than Cynthia in Japan. I don't know why GF keeps bringing back Cynthia instead of him.

>>30416833
Manga series. Black frees Reshiram, uses it to thwart Plasma, Ghetsis is a sore loser and pushes black intor Reshiram as it turns back into its stone form. Black is trapped in the rock while his girlfriend, who just recovered from being NTR'd by her Tepig, watches on in horror. Then the story ends.

>>30413920
Because he doesn't have any iconic Pokemon. Cynthia has Spiritomb and Garchomp. Red has the starters and Pikachu. N on the other hand doesn't have any iconic Pokemon.

>>30418095
>then the story ends
You're joking right?

>>30418271
sadly not

>>30416950
Gen 5 had a lot of strange stuff. I remember when japanese BW1 leaked, there was a lot of confusion. Remember, Anthea and Concordia and how they appear in the opening and once as NPCs? In japanese they were called Goddess of Love and Goddess of Peace. Basically, we didn't even know if they were human. Ghetsis' roleplaying shenanigans actually managed to mindfuck some people in real life.

>>30418238
Does N's Zorua not count? Probably not, eh

>>30414052
I feel ashamed that I think I know which episode you're talking about, was the clown's name flappy bob and the show basically a musical with Method Man and Red Man voicing the pixies rap voices?

>>30417762
Waifufags spend more cash and watch pokemon more than fujoshi, why do you think Ash has a full blown harem this time?

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>>30415078
I'm a smelly unovashit and I love Cynthia. What? She was in Unova too? What a bonus.

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>>30418271
Hilariously enough, no. They just moved onto new protagonists.

>>30418095
That actually sounds depressing as fuck. Best protag gets turned into a rock and banished into space. It's probably GF's way of saying, "Gen V was a one time thing lol now go to Kalos and drink like 7 cups of coffee, bitch"

What does Diantha do in the manga and anime? She has to be the laziest champion next to Iris. Lance beats down team rocket, Wallace and Steven do shit with the Sky Pillar and Cave of Origin, Cynthia's fucking everywhere and Alder at least tried to fight N despite being washed up and mentally broken.

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>>30418703
That's it.
That's basically the point at which Fairly Odd Parents started going downhill.

>>30418985
Wait, it's still on the air? Jesus Christ that show was around in the early 2000's when I was still a junior high school kid.

>>30416818
wouldn't Red be GameFreak's Lightning?

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>>30418949
She is the anti Cynthia.

Also, being an actress, she probably was forced to do a porn scene in the past, like Jackie Chan. Nice music and outfit tho!

>>30418946
Gamefreak doesn't make the Manga I think, they just license it.

Also, IIRC the FRLG arc ended with half the protagonists getting turned to stone as well, they got rescued during the emerald arc. We'll probably get back to him eventually.

>>30419086
I believe it is.
Eventually cosmo and wanda had a baby (the show went to shit at this point) and a new series was announced in 2011 I think? Not sure what's happening at the moment. Check wikipedia for more info.

I rewatched almost the entire series a few years ago, for nostalgia. It's was pretty good, at first anyway. I kinda miss it.

>>30413920
>the best antagonist this series has had?
Lusamine has only existed for one game, how could she make multiple appearances by now?

You have Colress, who is way cooler than some emotionally stunted bishounen aspy.

>>30413920
His idea about becoming champion and telling everyone "hur dur rrelase yur pokemans" was pretty fucking dumb

>>30419279
That's a weird way to spell Ghetsis m8

>>30419447

You probably end up pretty dumb when your psychotic adoptive dad raises you in a cult and feeds you a huge plate of bullshit daily.

>>30419137
She looks badass. Is she badass?

>>30419264
A baby, a dog and now some new girl who shares the fairies with timmy? Boy they really scrapped the bottom of the barrel with this show.

>>30420280
would you want the same formula for 16 years?

>>30420280
I completely forgot about the new girl.

>>30420465
I guess not, just not a fan of how the show has panned out.

Hopefully stuff like Ed, Edd 'n Eddy and KND will stay dead.

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>>30420280
Yes. She is the reason Mega Gardevoir is on my main team. Best fairy user.

>>30416818
Looker isn't a Mary Sue that's exceptionally powerful, though.

>>30414682
Iris was better than Diantha

I also prefer her to Alder, but apparently that's sacrilege

B/W's story was Sonic 2006-tier, and the only people who like N are fujoshits, and people with daddy issues - usually both. Sad!

>>30420881
but i'm neither of those anon

>>30420280
They literally, unironically pulled a Poochy. Its gone from sad to pathetic.

>>30420868
Diantha can actually beat both Iris and Cynthia

>>30421000
Which of Cynthia's teams? She has like, 4 of them

>>30416818

Looker isn't a girl who constantly has everyone bang on about how great he is. He's basiclly a more competent Gumshoe from Ace Attorney.

>>30421000
My fucking non-Mega Mawile can beat Diantha. Cynthia has a Steel type and a Dragon type as her major aces and that pretty much covers all of Diantha's team

>>30421070
>Dragon type ace
That's literally the problem. Her Gardy shits all over Cynthia and Iris.
Game difficulty doesn't matter. From a pure matchup perspective, Diantha has an edge.

>>30413920
>autistic manchild
>best anything

>>30421126
don't be so hard on yourself anon, i'm sure you have something you're good at

>>30421126
>Autistic manchild
>wants to liberate pokemon because he hears everyone talk about how happy they are
>Can't let anyone just have their own point
He's /vp/ the character.

>>30421122
Did you miss the fact that Cynthia's other Pokemon is a fucking Lucario? Something that utterly makes half of her team fold like paper?

>>30421242
>Hawlucha used Flying Press!

>>30421242
The first time I beat Y, non-mega Lucario swept her whole team without trouble
the fact that it even happened made her the most disappointing champion battle for me

>>30421268
That's only 2x effective though

>the opposing Lucario used Psychic!

>>30421122
Then why is it that Diantha is easier to defeat than Cynthia and Iris?

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>>30421268
>Hawlucha
>Able to take down Game Freak's Lightning: The Pokemon

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>>30421315
so we're going with Hypothetical movesets now? In that case, Diantha's Garde solos literally all of Cynthia's team
>>30421377
Because Gen VI was walk in the park: the game.

>>30413920
Because unlike Cynthia, he's not shit. He doesn't need to be shilled to be likeable.
Though I do agree it would be nice to see him again someday. Hopefully he's met Hilbert by that time.

>Cynthia appears in gen 4, gen 4 has amazing games
>Cynthia reappears in gen 5, gen 5 has amazing games
>Cynthia is missing from gen 6, gen 6 games are complete trash
>Cynthia reappears in gen 7, gen 7 is saved
Really makes you think

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>>30421451
Why not use an updated team?

>>30415188
No, it isn't. There is no general consensus. It's either loved or hated.

>>30421564
Because thanks to everyone wanting to forget about the kalos cakewalk, there's no updated Diantha team.

>>30421451
Her DP Platinum rematch and BW2 use psychic

>>30418873
You love Cynthia, you are not smelly my beloved Unovashit.

>>30421564
Where's Roserbabe?

N had a character arc that finished, so there's not much point to keeping him around.

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>>30421564
>5 mons

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>>30421687
Roserade's one of her mons that keeps getting switched out. I think it, Togekiss, Gastrodon, Braviary and Eelektross are the ones that are inconsistent

Spiritomb, Lucario and Garchomp are always on her team

>>30421709
Blame the Battle Tree's no full team meme

>>30421495
I think this speaks more to the fact that the people who like Cynthia within Gamefreak are actually the people who make good games.

>>30421495
Gen 6 was good though.

>>30421801
Her best one is blue writ, where they attempt to make her AI use a calm mind gardevoire

>>30421801
what the fuck, why would they remove moonblast from her gardevoir?

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>>30421874
>Gen 6 was good though.

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>>30421877
Seems tricky, but nothing hard to handle

>>30421927
Battle Maison uses meme sets

>>30421927
Because if you were afraid for your dragon's life, the game would be too hard.

>>30421933
Yep, it was good, 4chan memes aside.

>>30413951
Is Red Gamefreak's Cloud?

>>30415384
>>30415496
>Hilbert
Y-Y'know Hilda is the main protag, right?

>>30421394
252 Atk Hawlucha Flying Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Lucario-Mega: 288-342 (102.4 - 121.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>30421997
That would be Pikachu