So this means that it's TPCi approved to inject mons and

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>>30400235
Moralfags btfo

>>30400235
Duh.

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>Legendary pokemon can't have hidden power fighting anymore.

>>30400483

Since legendaries always have at least three perfect IVs, it's impossible for them to legally have Hidden Power Fighting. It's been like this since last gen.

>>30400235
Well what did you expect?
You literally cannot tell a properly injected pokemon from a legit one

>>30400483
>Master Ball
Wait wait wait a minute
Is the Master Ball not inheritable?

>>30400708
B-But I'm supposed to be better than you because I spent 3 hours on Tauros Ride Simulator 2016! My Pokemon are stronger because I love them unlike you who just inject them and use them like tools! My effort HAS to be rewarded! Baaaaaaw!

>>30400751
No.

>>30400761
>>30400708
Don't be condescending

I don't really give much of a fuck about hacks either way but I don't harp on people who do or don't hack. Have the decency to do the same

>Breed for good nature
>Hack a Gold Battle Cap in

EZ

>>30400807
Blame Verlisify. He gives us legit players a bad name.

>>30400807
Except there are people who actually believe this. They use it as a scapegoat if they lose because they think hacked pokemon with exactly the same stats as theirs have an advantage.

>>30400978
I don't think so. Are you sure you aren't just misunderstanding?

>>30400978
b-b-but they have an advantage because I wasted hours breeding my pokemon

>>30401031
>Are you sure you aren't just misunderstanding?
No we are not. These people exist and you've either been lucky enough to not seen them in action or are just extremely deluded. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but I really have no idea how you've not managed to seen an breeder vs injection shitfest where everyone just shits on the other endlessly without no one ever winning anything.

>>30401071
In addition to this, they fucking use it as a crutch if they do win.
>I just beat a hacker, I was at a huge disadvantage and I won.

So breeding with all these 6iv hacked dittos is fair game. works for me

>>30401071
I've seen plenty of shitfests but this is the first I've heard of hacked mons having undetectable advantages.

>>30400483
Thanks for giving us a nice easy checklist to go down and double check with after injection :^)

Seriously, anyone who's putting an ounce of effort into this shit isn't going to be stopped. What does this even do

>>30401031
This very board is full of people like this.

>>30401171
Stop the ones who didn't try hard enough.

>>30401171
>Seriously, anyone who's putting an ounce of effort into this shit isn't going to be stopped
You'd be surprised at the amount of people who are too retarded to inject properly.

>>30401158
That's always been fair game. Hacked parents were always legal, that's why Ray Rizzo didn't get in trouble for Dream Ball aegislash.

>>30401071
This. I'm opposed to hacking and would not like to have anything like that on my cart, but I don't care what others do with their files. If it's "legit," i.e. it can be done ingame, there's no issue or difference in the battle.

I find breeding for egg moves and IVs relaxing, though (at least in the last two gens where you have more control over the process).

>>30401280
Dream Ball aegislash.
Humorously this is legal now

>>30401280
>Implying hacked parents could naturally result in a Dream Ball Aegislash
He didn't get in trouble because it was legal, despite being hacked.

>>30401280
Ray didn't get in trouble because he's part of the NuggetBridge circlejerk clique and his buttbuddies who are all more or less involved with TCPi nowadays handwaved the issue because he was their friend. We all know had that happened to random nameless competitor he would have been disqualified immediately.

>>30400815
bottle caps do fuck all, it's superficial

>>30401286
And that's your prerogative, you do you and enjoy yourself, we just laugh at the people who actually believe injecting give an unfair advantage in battle when the end result is the same.

>>30401363
They do what you need once you have the right nature and egg moves

>>30401345
>he would have been disqualified immediately.
You realize that the penalty has always been
>the hacked pokemon gets removed from your team
right?
You only get DQed if you end up with less than 4 in your team
Also I've autistically payed attention to pokeballs in streams before and illegal balls aren't uncommon.

>>30401171
It's like obvious scams, they only go after people who are stupid enough.
I don't mind. I like breeding, but I'm not going to complain if someone else injects something that is legal.

>>30401363
wat? They don't actually raise the Pokemon's IVs but they'll be functionally maxed as long as it doesn't leave your game.

>>30400914
What did he do?

>>30400483
Why specifically Braviary or Mandabuzz below 54? Can everything else be found in the wild below evolving level or something?

>>30401171
PKHex will have all of these checks implemented eventually, if it doesn't already.

There are always dumbasses who will slip up, though.

>>30401363
If I don't need to breed ivs, then they do everything I need them to.

>>30401656
They evolve starting at level 54.

>>30401693
Seriously it really does need that feature. Like, immediately after finishing updating for gen7 it needs to be the next thing on the to do list just so people stop messing up and freaking out about oh no why didn't it work I swear i did everything right even though I skipped like 40 steps.

>>30401742
Sure, but there are all kinds of pokemon that evolve at levels.

Why Braviary and Mandabuzz specifically?

>>30401656
>>30401867
You can find a level 10 Salamence in the wild, among other underleveled evolved mons. I found a level 9 Butterfree.

If I were to guess, I'd assume Braviary/Mandibuzz are the only ones without this quirk.

>>30401867
I see what you mean now, that's a good question. It seems that electronic checker just cannot handle Mandibuzz and Braviary.

>>30401656
I think so actually. Everything else should be able to either evolve prior to level 50 or be found earlier than level 50.

>>30400235
I don't want to piss in anyone's water here but...it looks like the electronic hack detection is (as ever) the main hack detection, and it doesn't conveniently list the things it checks. It sounds like the manual check just covers stuff not covered yet in the electronic one.

>>30400483
>cosmog, cosmoem, lunala and solgaleo aren't shiny locked
Huh, that's pretty neat. Has anyone gotten one?

>>30402136
they are though, I don't know where you got that from

>>30402073
The electronic hack check is just the normal GTS hack check

>>30402136
They are locked. They're just excluded since they're banned from vgc.

>>30401867
>>30401896
Yeah, the lowest those two can be found is at level 54.

>>30401171
it stops people who have illegal sets which is what actually matters

>>30401168
The undetectable advantage is less time breeding and more time playing, which means more experience in different situations.

>>30401321
It isn't though. Ditto can't pass balls down and Honedge cannot be caught in any game where the Dream Ball is accessible.

>>30402417
idk exactly how long breeding takes because I've never done it before but several hours lost to breeding would only effect initial tournies. The difference is negligible in the long run, especially since everyone already has the skillset to play the game they're just working with new mons

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>>30402452
>take a dream world probopass male
>take a female aegislash
>put them in the nursery
>???
>babies with dream balls and whatever ball the mom sword had

>>30402631
The male only passes the ball when breeding with a female of the same species.

>>30401343
>put hacked female aegislash with dream ball and ditto in day care
>get "legit" aegislash with dream ball

>>30401171
It legitimizes injecting. Duh. This is a good thing. Lower your shields, cap'n. This is them offering a peace flag.

>>30400235
>can't participate because I changed my trainer's name
>actual cheaters injecting 31/0/30/31/31/31 Tapu Koko are allowed

This is why competitive pokemon is a joke.

>>30403203
>I did something impossible and ilegal, I shouldn't be banned!
>People who have something possible to archieve legally and impossible to prove if illegal should be banned!

>>30403203
Keep crying bitch boy

>>30403529
I'm sure that having a prettier name will help me a lot in battle.

You're even more retarded than Joe.

>>30403111
What was the wording before?

>>30403653
Be less of an idiot and stop doing things that are known to be detectable if you are going to bitch about actions having consequences.
Alternatively, >>30403630

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>>30403766
People like you is why comptitive Pokemon will never be taken seriously.

>>30403886
>Detectably cheats
>gets caught
>this is why competitive pokemon will never be taken seriously

>>30403886
If random assholes on the web is how you decide to judge a competition, sure, but you won't enjoy anything with online functions ever.

Pokemon in the next gen will basically be instantly customizable with minimal breeding recognition. Nature change behavioral therapy, easily adjustable IV's, etc. Pokemon will rival simulators in usage due to the ease of putting together a team.

>>30403653
>cheating is only cheatiting if it gives you an advantage during battle

Nah.

>>30401513
>as long as it doesn't leave your game.

Wait, does it go away if you trade it?

...Does it go away if you put it in the pokemon bank?

>>30404055
No.
Its a binary indicator in the pokémon file.
It's here to stay.

Why is verlisify always so butthurt about hacking? He needs to fcking grow up and stop ranting like a kid!

>>30404054
If it's irrelevant to competitive, who the fuck cares? It's just cosmetic. It has ZERO impact on the gameplay, unlike injecting flawless pokemon.

This is as stupid as banning people from competing in SF5 tourneys because they've used costume mods.

>>30403946
Nice reading comprehension.

>>30404136
Money.
Ranting about shit and rallying its pack lets him make relatively long videos with no actuall content.

>>30402667
>The male only passes the ball when breeding with a female of the same species.
like eevee +eevee pass
eevee + Vaporeon+nopass

>>30404054
>what is cheating

>>30404224
It shows that you obviously modified save data.
Who knows what else you did on that cart?
You are not to be trusted.
>>30404248
If there was supposed to be "=" where I think it would be, then I apologize, I meant family.
>>30404281
Doing anything not naturally allowed on or by the game.

>>30404235
Takes away the streamer/youtuber advantage, too. :-)

>>30404295
>If there was supposed to be "=" where I think it would be, then I apologize, I meant family.
yeah menaing that
>nest ball leaf guard Meganium
>repeat ball Flash fire Typhlosion
>dive or Net ball Sheer force Feraligatr

are going to be legal?

>>30404370
Yes.

>>30404370
Yep, just catch one in the desired ball in an Island Scan and start chain breeding.

>>30404295
That's hacking. Cheating is specially for an advantage.

>>30404224
>>30404281
You break Gamefreak's rules and get caught, you have no right to complain. It doesn't matter whether or not you think it matters.

>>30404444
Wew.
No better confirmation than quad quads.

Where are these rules, exactly?

>>30404478
http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/about/tournaments-rules-and-resources/

>>30404507
Thank you.

>>30400483
>manual hack checks
There's bound to be a Dream Ball Aegislash episode 2 with this. Time for tournament players to learn balltism

>>30401702
I second this

>>30404532
The entire point is that they list out exactly what they check for in the manual hack checks.
They don't check for invalid balltism other than master balls and cherish balls.

>>30401071
>we
hahahaha!

>>30404444
Dream Ball Aegislash got away with it.

Also nice quads.

>>30404694
I have cheated in many things, and always the issue is not getting caught.

>>30404424
>Yep, just catch one in the desired ball in an Island Scan and start chain breeding.
wait those starters were legal?

>>30404754
Jhoto starters are catcheable once a week each.
Unova too, but you will have to choose between Chikorita and Samurott.

>>30403203
Changed my name back to the old one.

I'll make sure to inject a full team of flawless pokemon instead of going legit like in the 2015 series.

Eat shit, Game Freak.

>>30404861
Pretty sure that unless you restored a previous save, that sticks.
And if you don't change the trainer ID and SID and connected to the web, you are still fucked.

>>30404923
I've already tested, it's fixed. It goesn't says that my save is restricted from online features anymore.

>>30405105
Nice.
Have fun using underhanded methods for convenient, yet not actually easier, victories.

And yet I'm STILL getting hacked, unhatchable Eggs from FubotteCOM over Wonder Trade.

Nicely done, GF.

>>30405231

You can wondertrade bad eggs? Shit thats hilarious.

>>30405285
Yep. So now I have 6 of the fucking things just stuck in my box because you STILL can't fucking release eggs for some dumbass reason.

>>30405231
>FubotteCOM
What's that?

>>30405338

Why not just wondertrade them again?

>>30405477
they never leave the spot so it would just clone it to some poor bastard without fixing for him

>>30405535

Can you trade me one? I wanna spread this infection.

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>>30405535
>>30405554
>After five years, nobody has any room in their boxes anymore because of Bad Eggs, meaning Pokemon finally comes to a close

>>30405578

After Sun/Moon removing core shit like the national dex, i'd not mind this too much.

>>30405554

If you get one pass one to me. I wanna meta this.

>>30405477

M-muh morals

>>30405535
There's the option of letting them "rot" in poke pelago's hot springs and maybe level up island

>>30405554

I can make you one.

>>30400815
You still have to level it up to 100 in a game without blissey bases or repeatable high level restaraunts, easier to just inject some 6iv ditos with destiny knot or outright inject the needed mon

>>30405535
If you get one in your party, does it stick?

>>30405800
inject 999 rare candies

>>30401541
If you don't know who Verlisify is, you clearly haven't been on /vp/ too long. To sum things up: Verlisify and his army of 12 year olds went on an autistic Youtube crusade over "le hax!" and proceeded to make complete asses of themselves and give us legit players a terrible reputation in the process.

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>>30400235
nice try to manipulate the rules and not include 4.1 faggot

>>30406091
>injecting fucking items when you can just edit the level
that's retarded

>>30407251
Good luck finding out anything when a non-retarded hack is literally indistinguishable from the real thing

>>30407343
Most hacks are retarded though.

>>30405231
Hold, you can still get Bad Eggs ? I tought that was a glitch of the past. Is it common ?