>Former professor and researcher of Ultra Beasts and Ultra

>>30217598
Wait, what.
Where are the proofs?

Worst of all is that he came inside Lusamine two times.

>>30217629
At least it gave birth to best battle theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7Nz1vxcltU

How do Pokémon get out of the PC and into a random series of islands?
The poke pelago isn't real, it's a digital similation created by Mohn who became trapped in the PC system as a means to cope with his eternal prison.

>>30217627
Lusamine explicitly refers to "Professor Mohn" in Ultra Space, multiple times too.

>>30217627
A scientist in the Dimensional Research Lab on Akala Island and a document in the Aether basement both mention Mohn.

>>30217627
You mean besides that they have the exact same name?

>>30217648
Then why do you fly there?

DEBUNKED.

>>30217648
>The poke pelago isn't real

So why do you need Charizard to get there?

>>30217629
I bet he made her Mohn :^)

What game had Ultra Wormholes localized as Ultra Breach? That was a much better name

>>30217627
Uh, you mean besides that Lusamine's husband was also named Mohn and that he has the same hair and eye color as the rest of the family?

>>30217651
>>30217669

He also has blonde hair and green eyes.

>>30217648
Then why you need Charizard to fly there?
>>30217627
Same name, and look like his son

It wasn't his body that went missing, it was his mind.
The Mohn you see at Pelago is just the shell of the man referred to by Aether.

lusamine offhandedly mentions the callousness that trainers perform when they remove a pokemon from their team in exchange for a new one in her speech in ultra space. i have to wonder if this is something mohn felt strongly about, hence why poke pelago is a thing that mohn oversees in order to make those useless mons have some purpose.

>>30217736
DEEPEST LORE

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>>30217684
Including Lusamine.

>>30217733
He probably lost his memory like Anabel did.

>>30217598
The MC is having lots of fun with the chaos of that family, is like a mexican tv series
He wont say anyone than he is alive somewhere else

>>30217810
The MC is pretty fucked up. Just look at his emotionless smile during all the dramatic shit going down.

>>30217676
>>30217677
>>30217717
Can you say that you're really flying there if you do it from the menu and can somehow do it in places you shouldn't be able to fly out of?

>>30217843
Bean stalk island is visible on the complete map.

>>30217843
They do show the teleport animation when you use it in an area you normally couldn't fly in.

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This must be explored further. There are too many loose ends in this story for GF to drop it... right?

>>30217649
When? I just got Solgaleo. She never talked about him.

>>30218061
Can't wait for guzma to be a badass next game.

>>30218193
She does. Watch the scene on YT again or something to see for yourself.
>>30218246
He's a faller now like Anabel, meaning he's fucked. Also Lusamine and Lillie. With S/M having done as well as they have I can see Gamefreak putting all three of them in the next games, Nanu and Looker too since they're International Police.

>>30217736
We have a winner

>>30217678
This
This is perfect

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Tell me that doesn't look like Lily in the photo behind him.

>>30218674
Blonde hair and white clothes. Could be Lusamine.

>>30217598
yeah
MC basically could have prevented all this by just saying a couple of words

GF's writing hasn't always been good but this gen really lowers the bar when it comes to the story.

>>30217763
DELET THIS
PINE TWINS ARE PURE

Just got to the UB section post-game, can someone confirm for me that there's only one of each UB? Or are there multiple of the same UB?

>>30218368
>He's a faller now like Anabel, meaning he's fucked.
Guzma? And why are fallers fucked? ThI y can't get memories back?

>>30218811
One Nihilego. Two Buzzwoles. Four Kartanas. One Guzzlord.

>>30218861
Once you hop between realities you become a spatial anomaly of sorts and Ultra Beasts mistake you for a wormhole.

>>30217598
Women can do no wrong

Lusamine is a gud gurl

>>30218893
So in moon it's 2 Pharaoh Mimosas, and 4 Celestine Steelies?

>>30217831
Is it just me or is that intentionally done as a joke by Gamefreak? They zoom in on the MC face so many times.

>>30218948
ye

>>30218948
Nope, 4 Phersomas and 2 Celesteelas

>>30218948
No. 4 Pheromosa and 2 Celesteela
Sp Buzzwole = Celesteela and Pheromosa = Kartana as far as GTS value goes.

>>30218942
I thought it was implied that the Nihilego venom made her go bonkers
like, she was obsessed and a little nuts but being possessed by UB's made her go into cryogenically freezing pokemon and abusing children territory

>>30218861
Some fallers lose their memories, some don't. It probably has to do with how much time do you spend in Ultra space and wether or not you hopped into the wormhole voluntarily or not

>>30217598
>marry someone who looks just like you

>>30217629
Worst of all is that He's a better human being than you, found professional success, and had developed a deeper and more rewarding emotional life than you ever will.

>>30219081
She never made contact with Nihilego until the events of the game. She went insane from Mohn's disappearance.

Did Looker go through an Ultra Worm Hole? Didn't he wash up on a beach in Kalos with no memory? Also was it he or Nanu who let that girl die 10 years ago?

>>30219033
>>30219045

Cool, thanks guys, will prob catch all of em and wonder trade the extra ones with stupid nick names

>>30219081
Yea I like that idea more, I love it when a villain takes a heel face turn and gets redeemed.

>>30219104
Good point. Maybe this is Mohn Jr., Lusamine is 40 after all. Or Lillie and Gladion are inbred babies, which would make just as much sense at this point honestly. *grabs shaking arm*

>>30219230
jk I'm pretty sure Gladion just fucked up his arm and clothes from dealing with Type: Null

>>30219149
That was in ORAS battle resort.


The english text is pretty ambiguous to me.

Nanu says the one who screwed up was "this fool here", so it isn't clear if he is talking about himself or Looker.

Then Looker says "Yes< i made an error of judgement etc", but it's not clear if he is just trying to take part of the blame.

Personally, until this is resolved, I'm going with Nanu, it would explain better his personality if it was due to feling responsible for someone's death.


Also, I want to know who that girl was, I hope it's someone we know.

>>30219175
Actually I'd be interested in getting a celesteela and pheromosa for dex completion. FC is 1418-7878-4830

>>30217598
Well in the post game UB quest we find out that Anabel lost her memory from travelling through a wormhole so maybe the same thing happened to him?

>>30219081
Yeah, are those frozen Pokemon even alive now?

>>30219302
No shit, you're the world's greatest detective.

>>30217598
>you can fly to poke pelago from ultra space

>>30219310
I think Wicke mentions that they're working on it but don't really know how to fix them

>>30219347
lol damn

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>>30219120
Nigga what the fuck are you talking about.

>>30219427
I mean he's not wrong.

>>30219427
I'm mocking the first anon?

Havent caught any of them yet, but heres mine anyway
I'll take the opposites

2895-7737-1755

>>30219462
Sure you weren't mocking everybody on this board?

>>30218908

>guzma returns in stars/eclipse/whatever endgame
>had to ditch his shit bugs like ariados because of constant encounters with UBs
>his team is now golisopod, mega pinsir, scizor, volcarona, galvantula, buzzwole

>>30219462
Is that a question?

STOP THE CATFIGHT

LETS DISCUSS LORE

>>30219282
It was pretty obviously Looker who screwed up. Otherwise, Looker would have done something to comfort Nanu about his mistake.

>>30219530
Amen brother.

How much is Bill gonna charge Lusamine in sexual favors to fix her sorry ass? He has to be around 20 now.

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>>30217684
>Lusamine's husband was her brother all along

>>30217598

Running out seems to run in the family it seems. Mohn ditched his family, and then Gladion ran off as well.

>>30219595
>Lusamine uses a clefable
>Bill turns into a clefairy

one of the kids are already his probably

>>30219560
He might have tried to console him, he tried to take part of the blame by saying "I made an error of judgement, I failed to consider she had no combat experience"

It would be pretty good if someone who knows japanese tells us how that exchange was phrased in the original text.

Anyway, it would be cooler if Nanu was the one responsible.

So are R/B/G canonically 10 years apart from S/M now? R/S/E = R/B/G and Anabel went missing 10 years ago, so it has to have been AT LEAST that long. Also that confirms Red and Blue/Green being 20+.

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>>30218674
IF THAT'S ACTUALLY A PHOTO OF LILLIE/LUSAMINE THIS MEANS HE REMEMBERS FUCKING EVERYTHING AND HE IS LAUGHING HIS ASS OFF AN ISLAND WHILE HIS FAMILY IS GETTING TEARED APART

Is it possible HE is the faller that was with Nanu and Looker?

>>30219691
Wally is still a kid

>>30219722
Late bloomer ):

>>30217598
>Casually growing beans
>Mentions that he can't stop eating the pokebeans
>The man never went back to his family because of his addiction to pokebeans
>MC doesn't have the heart to tell any of them this.

>>30219691
That's a plausible reading of it.

FRLG------3years------HGSS------5years------BW------2years------BW2/XY------Less than a year------SM

>>30219282
No...it was obviously Looker. He would have started his sentence with "but" if it had been Nanu. He was taking full blame, not partial blame.

>>30219722
I think Red, Wally, Blue, and Cynthia are non-canon.

Are all the people in BW canon?

>>30219501
>Ditching Ariados

No loyalty at all.

>>30219691
So was the Battle Frontier never made in ORAS? Did the project never start, or did it but Anabel was not chosen as the leader? How could Looker never have heard of it despite her being already super famous in her home world (since she confirms she was a frontier brain)?

>>30219699
It looks like a photo of Lillie anon. You can see the white hat. You know that Lusamine doesn't wear one.

>>30219720
The faller that was with Nanu is refered to with she/her, so no, unless Mohn is transgender.

>>30219761
Maybe, but I still want to see how it was in the original.

>>30219805
It seems really strange they would outright say a character is really dead

My bet is the person IS NOT dead and we've met them

Does anyone fit the bill?

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>>30219699
>THIS MEANS HE REMEMBERS FUCKING EVERYTHING AND HE IS LAUGHING HIS ASS OFF AN ISLAND WHILE HIS FAMILY IS GETTING TEARED APART

Maybe he doesn't remember a thing, but whenever he sees that picture he just has this faint memory that she's extremely important to him, and he runs Pelago hoping that one day a bright young trainer in a big, broad hat is going to send her pokemon there and help him remember who he is and why she means so much to him.

But she never does because Lillie isn't a trainer.

>>30219722
>>30219745
>>30219774

Severely stunted growth because of his illnesses.

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>>30219914
b-but that's not okay, anon!

>>30219837
It's implied that the beast that 'did in' the third member was Guzzlord, so she was probably eaten. She is dead unless Guzzlord's belly is some kind of portal.

Or maybe we are overreacting to this and GF never meant for that to have any long term significance.

>>30219792
Sigh this is confusing.

Any hot pics of him and Lusamine making babies?

This is a very important thread. - Junichi Masuda

>>30219914
>>30219945
>MC obviously knows everything but just stands still in front of him with its big ass smile on its face as always

>>30217598
ever heard of going bamboo?

means just getting away from everything and living off the radar

>>30219792
We've spent at least two big topics this past week arguing exactly over that.

It depends wether or not the Anabel we meet in SM is the MEGAverse anabel or the RSEverse Anabel. Have fun speculating which is true.

>>30219774
Everyone is canon, this meme needs to die.

>>30219691
I'm not sure how relevant is, but I just discovered something else. In the japanese park these kids recreated the nugget bridge, and this Veteran at the end tries to get you to join Team Rocket. After you beat him he wonders what Giovanni is up to, because he was the leader "back then"

>>30220023
It doesn't matter tho, Battle Frontier was under development 10 years ago in the Mega Universe.

>>30220023
Could it be possible that ORAS is happening more or less at the same time as SM or are those games also 10 years later? Was the Battle Frontier project cancelled? But then how does that explain Looker without memories? He doesn't seem to be even close to not have memories in SM, rather he is talking about events that seem much older than 10 years ago. Was that just a pointless thing and he already got his memories back or is it a different Looker?

>>30220055
In XY, mega evolution is threated as being recently discovered, but in ORAS it was already known. There's room to question whether ORAS happens at the correspondent place in the mega timeline that RSE happened in the original.

>>30218908
That means MC and Lillie and Lusamine are fallers too right?

>he thinks guzma, a bug specialist, with his new enlightenment from Hala, a fighting socialist, won't be able to convince pheromosa and buzwole to join him.

>>30217598
Are we to believe none of the higher-ups at Aether ever thought to visit Poke Pelago and find their old professor?

Or did they see him and think "that can't be Professor Mohn, he's too fat and smells like beans" ?

>>30220093
ORAS and S/M should be 10 years apart... although that's the rule for the old timeline... my mind is numb.

>>30219997
:^)

>>30220093
That might not even be the same Looker.

10 years ago, Looker was already a estabilished member of the Interpol andparticipated in important missions to take on the UBs. But in ORAS(which is supposed to be 10 years ago) we see him waking up with amnesia, so it's not like he could take part in missions right after that. How the hell did he rise up the ranks so fast?

>>30220158
>a fighting socialist

>>30220233
Can somebody explain all of Looker's experiences. It's so hard to keep track.

>>30219997
I feel like this one is more accurate about the whole thing >>30219751
But yeah that smile needs to stop

>>30220282
GB/DS universe:
>worked to stop Team Galactic in Sinnoh
>arrests Charon
>worked to stop 7 sages of Team Plasma

3DS universe:
>sent to arrest Xerosic
>washes up on shore of Hoenn with no memories
>sent to stop Ultra Beasts in Alola

I think the key here is that this has somehow been the same Looker since Platinum. Some please refute this.

>>30220155
>In XY, mega evolution is threated as being recently discovered
That's just inconsistent story, since mega evolution was passed down by generations as seen in that ancient mega lucario big statue.

It's like back then in GS when Prof. Elm "discovered" pokemon eggs.

>>30220391
100% impossible, since he isn't a faller and Pt and BW are in a different dimension

>>30220391
But there's a contradiction. >>30220233

>>30220411
>Pt and BW are in a different dimension

not yet, not until DPPt remakes.

>>30220411
>he isn' a faller
I wouldn't be so sure.

>>30220454
I was under the impression XY started an entirely new timeline and everything before was automatically part of a different one

>>30220492
The UB quest definitely would say if he was

so looker falls out of the wormhole and lands at the battle resort in hoenn

he then either:
gets back into police work and ends up in XY - then going to investigate UBs in SM

OR

He falls into Hoenn and goes right to SM with that chick. I'm horrible with names.

>>30220158
This

Guzma is going to be super cool and bro as fuck.

>>30220492
This. This might be the reason he lost all his memory in ORAS.

>>30220411
He could have fallen to oras from the other dimension

>>30220528
Anabel doesn't know she is a faller, maybe looker is getting the same treatment.

>>30220378
>>30220282
>>30220233
Is the looker from XY the same looker from ORAS and SM? Or all Lookers in every game he appears the same looker?

This is shit ir

>>30218368
What's a faller and who is Anabel?

>>30220530
Either case is problematic. He wakes up with amnesia, how the hell does he gets himself into the interpol and sent into highly important missions?

And the looker we see in SM doesn't seem to have any amnesia.

>>30220606
We don't fucking know. It could go either way


One thing we're negleting is that Nanu seems to imply that Looker's codename used to be 100kr

I wonder what is the significance of that

Looker has to be a faller. There is no explanation for why he woke up washed up in ORAS. ORAS being the same time as XY/S and M makes sense, too, just look at Wally. But in this same MEGAverse, R/B/G with mega evolution could have happened 10 years before ORAS to explain Red and Blue being 20 now. Also Anabel is likeky from R/S/E and not ORAS, since she fell 10 years ago.

>>30219501
>ditching Ariados

THEY WERE YA BOIS BOIS MENG

>>30220704
And Nanu's was 000

And Looker is confirmed a codename anyway right?

>>30220673
Faller = Been in an Ultra Worm Hole.
Anabel = R/S/E Frontier Brain, and now International Police Agent with Looker

>>30220674
that's what i don't get either, but it would make sense that he kinda just falls out into the XY continuity and possibly picked up by the interpol that are aware of UBs

looker was in ORAS for a reason

>>30220765
He could have just been in it for the joke

They wanted someone to have amnesia to give Audino's mega stone because Audino sounds like I don't know

>>30220053

I think he also mentions that team rocket broke up 10 years ago too

>>30220765
To imply he is a Faller.

>>30220748
>And Nanu's was 000
Somehow I missed that.

>Croagunk
>the faller

Why is Looker so good at getting people killed?

>>30220808
exactly but how did he manage to get back into his previous profession.

unless he recovered from his amnesia

>>30220801
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
People call this the Nugget Bridge! Beat us five Trainers and win a fabulous prize! Think you got what it takes?
Congratulations! You beat our five contest Trainers! You just earned a fabulous prize!
Congratulations! You beat our five contest Trainers!
By the way, would you like to join Team Rocket? We’re a group dedicated to evil using Pokémon! Want to join? Are you sure? Come on, join us! I’m telling you to join! OK, you need convincing! I’ll make you an offer you can’t refuse!
[~ 4]
With your ability, you could become a top leader in Team Rocket!
Just kidding! Man, Team Rocket fell apart years ago... No point in telling you that you’ve gotta join Team Rocket, right? We just like having some fun, pretending we’re just like those five on Nugget Bridge, yeah?
Boy... I wonder what old Mr. Giovanni is up to now... He was the boss of Team Rocket back then.
Hey! Hey! HEY! Didn’t you hear me? Beat us five Trainers and you win a prize! You’ve gotta beat the five Trainers on the bridge, you dolt!


Didn't specify how many years.

>>30220841
Looker calls him 000, then the last UB mission is titled 000

>>30220857
>croagunk is the faller
Only if Croagunk is female and died 10 years ago.

>>30220748
Looker = Handsome in Japan.

>>30220928
he's saying Looker got both Croagunk and the faller killed, not saying they're the same

>>30220940
But he says multiple times it's a codename

>>30220928
D E E P E S T
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>>30220973
Yeah I know I was just saying.

>>30220940
>Looker's name in the original is handsome
Fuuuuiuuuuck, so it's a pun. Looker is not only "the one who looks" but it's also a slang for good-looking. Goddamnit.

What's the deal with the final room in Resolution Cave, where you find Guzzlord? The big like platform seems like the perfect spot to fight a legendary

>>30217629
*at least two times

Christ, how can Anabel be so beautiful?

My take is that ORAS is Looker "origin story". He is a faller, wakes up with amnesia, the Interpol detects high amounts of Ultra Enery coming from him, so they give him a job there, promote him fast so they can use him to track UBs (the same thing that happened to Anabel) and he gradually starts being used in other missions as well(Galactic, Plasma, Flare).

>>30221165
Naegi-kun. Wrong board.

>>30221095
It resembles the room you find Zygarde in in XY

>>30221186
Pretty good explanation, but this is to say Galactic and Plasma exist in the MEGAverse (strong evidence they do, of course. e.g. Colress in S/M)

>>30221287
That's what I was thinking

>>30221095
Well, I mean, you find Guzzlord there

>>30220711
Let us explain this in a sort of variable and constants manner.

Anabel is definitely a variable because she most likely doesn't exist in the current Universe in any manner. Looker might also be a variable as he seems to be hiding something with how he knows a lot more than he leads on as evident from the previous games.

RBGY + GSC - A universe on it's own that may not be explored.

RuSE + FRLG, DPPt + HGSS, BW + B2W2 - All a universe independent of the previous one.

XY + ORAS, SuMo - The universe where Anabel ended up from the previous Universe which most likely was destroyed by the Ultra Beasts.

Looker, having showed up in ORAS without memories might be an indication of this.

If we consider the previous Universe how FRLG took place around the same time as RuSE, we can assume that Red and Blue (Green) of the current universe were 10-11 during the events of ORAS. Which by that logic, Looker might have fallen through the Wormhole during that time and probably stumbled onto the equivalent of his International Police once he recovered his memories as he wound up ashore similar to Anabel according to both Looker and Nanu. Including the age of Sycamore's assistants, this solidfies X and Y happening after ORAS but a few years before Sun and Moon.

>>30221301
But if that's the case... what happened differently in this timeline? and if there IS a remake for gen 4, would that make it a prequel? Or did the gen 4 events not occur until later in this timeline?

And then there's gen 5's events... it'll probably be a WHILE before they try to remake that, but if it happens... how do we explain Colress? God... would that FORCE it to be a prequel?

>>30221385
>which most likely was destroyed by the Ultra Beasts
I hate this meme. It's so braindead.

>>30221452
Alright then, how do the pokedex entries on the ultra beasts have specific accounts of what they can do? Drain oceans, destroy buildings, level dump trucks, that sort of thing... It's not a PERFECT theory, it's just really dark implications.

>>30221571
The UBs have been appearing for at least 10 years. That's enough time for all those things to have happened in the current universe.

>>30221571
>He still takes the pokedex seriously.

>>30221633
I... I THINK we would have noticed an OCEAN going missing!

>>30221662
Yeah because the DEX descriptions aren't hyperbolic AT ALL, right? Let me pet my macgargo while I wait your answer.

>>30221385
I thought we learned in ORAS that r/b/y+g/s/c universe was destroyed by a meteor? And that's the in-game reason why you can't trade up to gen 3? Also Bill has to know somehing about wormholes. We use them to trade between games (universes), as explained in ORAS.

>>30221571
How do you explain Magcargo?

>Magcargo's body temperature is approximately 18,000 degrees F. Water is vaporized on contact. If this Pokémon is caught in the rain, the raindrops instantly turn into steam, cloaking the area in a thick fog.

STONE melts around 3000 degrees. Magcargo would fall through the earth

>>30221732
Zinnia says it could've been destroyed by a meteor if the scientists in ORAS had warped the meteor there.

>>30221732
>Meteor
wat.

>>30221659
I would say Rotomdex is pretty realistic compared to mach 5 pidgeot entries in the past. I would take romdex seriously but not others

>>30221802
>Rotomdex
>Realistic
Being ridiculously edgy and violent doesn't make Rotom a more trustworthy authority on anything.

>>30221723
>>30221753

I mean in the past they were made by kids, so I figure that the older ones were more exaggurations... These dex entries are made by a pokemon itself. Like I said, I'm not saying it's a perfect theory, I'm just saying that's what got ME to believe it...

also because these dex entries aren't pulling any punches this time around, I mean... I doubt a random 11 year old knows exactly which pokemon Talonflame likes to eat.

>>30221837
>A pokemon
You think that makes him omnipotent about other pokemon why? And with his childish jokester personality, it's not like he'd be immune to hyperbole and stupid exaggerations himself.

>>30221571
Are you perhaps related to a person named "Richard" by any chance?

>>30221792
So we can probably expect that gen 3's scientists did then, and maybe those in ORAS don't have a perfect view of the universe.

>>30221837
Draining oceans is not mentioned anywhere so maybe you're just hallucinating.

>>30221830
Nature in real life is more edgy than the rotom dex. It's only edgy because we're not used to the pokemon world having anything resembling actual ecology.

>>30221837
It's a shitty theory with no supporting evidence, sorry.

>>30221945
>It's only edgy because
Most of it contradicts the world as show to us through the gameplay and plot.

This is why you don't introduce time travel or parallel dimesions in plots. Pokemon continuity is so fucked up it's going to get into KH level of retardness pretty soon.

>>30220674
Do you really think an Interpol officer would just walk around without a badge or ID of some kind?

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>Looker gets cucked by Nanu in the end
>Nanu probably fuked the gay out of anabel

Looker had a hard life

>>30221964
>and plot
get to the aether paradise and read about the beast killers, the dwindling Corsola population and all the Beautiful pokémon in ice blocks.

>>30221985
The devs just couldn't resist any longer and gave into their Japaneseness.

>>30222034
?

How does that relate to what I said

>>30222054
>Beast Killers
The Nulls are artificial. Their behavior reflects poorly only on the people that created them. Same as with Mewtwo being noted to be unusually violent.

>Corsola
I never said Mareenie doesn't eat them. I said 'most' for a reason, because entries like Gengar's are obvious bunk while some are more believable.

>Ice blocks
That was done by Lusamine. How is that meant to reflect on the pokemon?

>>30221921
Yeah, sorry don't know where I got that one from. Apparently witnesses have seen guzzlord eat mountains though. I'm pretty sure that'd be hard to cover up at least. Then again, they claim he was here for a while so maybe he DID eat a mountain? Ugh, none of this is making sense.

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>>30222045
>had to abandon brown jailbait waifu who was lusting for hiscock

>never got to have the feast you wanted with his cute boss

Man...

Pokemon in the megaverse are more violent because of the same energy that created mega evolution worldwide. Notice how all megas are noted to be insane killers now?

>>30222134
>eat moutains

Larvitars have been doing that since gen II

However, even that is wrong, probably.
Dex says he ate a whole building, which is not unreasonable.

Come on, dude. You're trying too hard to make reality fit your chuuni theory.

>>30222232
I just said it didn't make sense, i'm completely open to either possibility occurring. Although I DO have to wonder if someone found flavor text that I didn't.

>>30222232

Not that anon but the hell is chuuni. I've seen it used a few times now

>>30222284
A middleschooler mentality. Children that age are stereotyped in Japan to believe a bunch of edgy, dark stuff is cool. The kind of people that like Sasuke basically.

>>30222332

Thanks

>>30222284
That special time in 8th grade when you liked shit like sephiroth, darkness, and pretended you were a super amazing anime swordsman

>>30222277
It makes complete sense. UBs have been appearing for some time, and they wrecked some havoc all over the globe, people who witnessed it recorded the [non-universe destroying] happenings, and it ended up in the dex.

Nothing in that suggest the UBs destroyed the original universe.

>>30219147
But then why had she been dressing Lillie to look like Nihilego for as long as she had? She clearly wanted Lillie to look that way, so Lusamine seems to have been familiar with it specifically for a good while now.

>>30222391
I guess so... Although you'd think we've have heard about some of these incidents before at least, since we're apparently a professional now? I mean getting paid even in bulk is a qualifier, right?

>>30222417
Nihilego is a shapeshifter, according to the SM site, so it's more likely that it assumed a form akin to lillie's so it could captivate Lusamine more easily.

>>30222439
The game alludes to at least one incident, where the partner of Nanu and Looker got apparently swallowed by Guzzlord.

>>30222498
Yeah, but none of the others before... I guess they all had to show up at one point or another in order to be ID'd but if that's the case... The Megaverse is a hellscape where you can die at a random time to a monstrosity from nowhere.

>>30222471
She also wanted to redress Hau, implying she knows of other UB appearances.

>>30222615
Not really, she is just manipulative and obsessed with aesthetics.

>>30222471
So do we interpret that as Lusamine still caring for Lillie until the Nihilego toxins drove her completely over the edge, or what?

I'm still not sure if that works because Nihilego in general looks the way it does.

>>30222700
>UB-01’s body is composed of a glass-like substance. However, it’s constantly changing shapes, never settling on one.

Maybe Lusamine was already giving Lillie the cold shoulder for some time, and Nihilego just assumed that the easiest way of getting close to Lusamine was to mimic one of her offspring.

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>>30222565

There's an instance before that where the first Lunala/Solgaleo came to this world and the Tapus lost to it and became guardians of the first Pew that was created. Zinnia's Dragon Clan also knew about the wormholes from ancient times and how destructive they can be.

This has been going on for some time now.

>>30222794
>Nihilego just assumed that the easiest way of getting close to Lusamine was to mimic one of her offspring.

But how would it even know what one of her offspring looks like and why was it actively trying to get to her specifically? They aren't really shown as being that intelligent.

>>30222900
By acessing Lusamine's memories, somehow?

>>30222900
Nihilego are parasites and they function by attaching to someone and boosting them in general while instilling within them a desire to protect itself. So it wanted to attach to Lusamine, apparently.

>>30222945
>>30222977
The impression I got was that it'd have to attach to someone to access their memories, which is what's confusing me here. If we assumed that Lusamine stopped caring about Lillie then Nihilego should know that taking her form wouldn't help. If anything it'd make more sense for Nihilego to take on Mohn's form to attract Lusamine's attention.

What if there are 2 Lookers?

The Non-mega Looker who is a Faller. Fell into the Megaverse and has lost his memory like the other fallers (Anabell and Mohn). Currently in ORAS Hoenn

The native Mega Looker who isn't a faller. He's the one we see in XY and SM.

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>>30220241
>>30220158
top kek

>>30221385
>RuSE
>SuMo

>>30223126
The weakness of that outlook is that the Looker who wakes up in ORAS has an Audinite megastone is his coat, which makes it unlikely he came from the non-megaverse.

>>30223126
I think Looker's life goes like this

Platinum -> BW -> WORMHOLE -> ORAS without memories -> becomes part of the International Police again -> meets Nanu and finds Anabel in Alola 10 years before SM -> meets Emma -> XY -> SM

>>30219722

Battle facility only characters aren't canon unless GF brings them back outside of facilities later like they did with Anabel. You don't think there canonically are a bunch of little kids running around with Pokemon stronger then what the E4 has do you?

>>30223490
>You don't think there canonically are a bunch of little kids running around with Pokemon stronger then what the E4 has do you?

Youngster Tristan would like a word with you

>>30221095

Sequel bait.

>>30222045

In X/Y, I was internally begging the game to let me give him a competively trained Pokemon for him to kick ass with.

>>30223516

That's one exception, the battle tree would imply there's an asston of them.

>>30219120

So what you're saying is that it's a good thing to be mind wiped and reduced to some ignorant farmer?

I know SM is darker than usual, but that's going a bit too far.

This game is pretty good. They've fucked up quite a few things as they always have to do (is there a checklist of amount of things they have to ruin with each game?) but the improvements are noteworthy at least.
I really like how expressive every NPC except the main character is.

>>30223660
I'm saying, better he had kids with Lusamine than some Anon

>>30218674
>staring_at_a_dot.jpg

>>30223158
I say Ru because of Red.

And Su because of Sapphire.

I only added Mo because of the possibility of something else coming later that may imply otherwise, but my bad for upsetting you.

>>30223347
You summarized what I said, fuck my difficulty at simplifying shit.

But I agree that this is most likely the case.

>>30217629
this Tbh

>>30217598
>That's a guy
Fuck me

>>30223660
>ignorant farmer
>understands the potential of beans and is still capable even though he is an Amnesiac

You are retarded.

>>30220233
Is ORAS actually 10 years before SM? Where does that number come from?

>>30220860
ORAS Looker isn't necessarily the same person as XY and SM Looker.

>this guy is a super important and maybe famous scientist
>Gawrsh, Celesteela sure puts a lot of fertilizer in the soil, hyuck hyuck!
>I made this here shack with my own two hands!
at least he's happy

>>30224214
Looker has amnesia upon his introduction in ORAS.

In the GBA/DS universe, the events of RSE and FRLG all take place at the same time roughly.

Red and Blue(Green) are in their late teens or early 20's, then by default this means ORAS occurs about the same time they started their journey which is roughly 11.

This must mean ORAS occurs AT LEAST 10 years before Sun and Moon.

>>30224214
It's either R/S/E or ORAS. Anabel says she fell 10 years ago in S/M, but we aren't sure which timeline she's from, thought it's more likely R/S/E.

>>30221301
Of course they fucking do. ORAS didn't have someone besides Aqua and Magma, and we know from Red and Blue that things are basically identical.

And Colress outright talks about Plasma when he gives you Genesect's drives in SM.

>>30222045
>gets cucked by Nanu

Not really, knowing Nanu he begrudgingly agreed to Anabel's request and kept wondering about how his Meowths were doing.

>>30224385
He just said they probably exist in that timeline. Relax.

>>30224061

But can the potential of beans match the power of ultra wormholes?

>>30224750
Do Ultra Wormholes EV train your bitch ass?

If he came back and gave Lusamine a much needed dicking, do you think she would calm down some?

>>30218674
i bet its a pic of a bean

>>30224788
She most likely would.

Her obsession stemmed from searching for her husband since he was probably the only one who loved her honestly in a way her kids couldn't since they did run away from her being a psycho bitch.

>>30224863
maybe he also ran away and faked the whole UB thing because he was married to a psycho bitch

>>30224911
>not wanting to remind a psycho bitch she is your bitch

Your dubs are a waste.

>>30217641
Goddamn fuck why does the worst character in the entire game have to have he best theme?
If they gave me the choice to push that chuuni nigger off a cliff I'd take it every time.

>>30224775

No, but they do give totem boosts. At their best the boost is 1.5x to all stats.

>>30225104
Shit taste.

Gladion is a great rival and is also cute. CUTE!

>>30224939
You don't fuck crazy.

>>30224788
She already calmed down. By the end she's on pretty ok terms with her daughter and probably you too since Lusamine tried to celebrate you becoming champion. She'll probably be back to normal all the way after getting some rehabilitation.

>>30225250
I fuck what I want to fuck.

>>30225504
You clearly have no experience with crazy then.

>>30225756
I have. You fuck crazy then you vanish the hell out.

>>30225212
>Gladion
>Rival
Wait since when? He's barely around at all.

>>30225806
Gladion is the intended rival, that's why his Silvally has the type that's strong against your starter, while Hau is just your "friend".

Also their battle themes are literally named "vsRival" and "vsFriend" respectively.

>>30225947
They could have done a better job with him, then. Introduce him earlier maybe.

>>30225989
>They could have done a better job
Sums up the game pretty well desu.

>>30225793
Which is exactly what Mohn did, which you were judging in your original post. LOL you're a clown X'D

>>30217629
He probably looked like a taller version of Gladion before getting wormholed and amnesia and ending up on an island out in the middle of nowhere with nothing to do all day but tan and eat beans.

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>Its programming was modified to enable work in alien dimensions. It did not work as planned.
>Its programming was modified to enable it to travel through alien dimensions. Seems there might have been an error...

Porygon Z
>Z Moves
Alien Dimension
>Ultra Dimension

Was Porygon Z developed in Alola to explore the Ultra Wormholes?

>>30226572
Aliens =/= Interdimensional beings

>>30226685
it doesn't mean literal aliens you autist.

When did GF start to go full Fromsoftware in terms of lore?

>>30226685
>NA education
hahahahahhahahha

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>>30217598
>Mohn is the dom in bed
>Lusamine is sub as fuck

>>30219837
Xy ghost girl??

>>30227778
Oh. My. God.

Gamefreak isn't this smart.

>>30227778
She was already dead by ORAS, though. It seems you find her in Mt Pyre or something

>>30228160
If ORAS really did happen 10 years ago, though, it does make sense.

>>30228221
Not really, Looker had just woken up with amnesia in ORAS, he couln't have already took part in that fateful mission. Unless there are 2 lookers.

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>>30220704
>I wonder what is the significance of that

>>30228298
D E EP E S T

>>30228298
Damn you to hell.

>>30222794
It's the other way around. Lusamine is the one who made her daughter look like her beloved Nihilego. Lillie mentions a couple of times how her mother was the one who decided everything regarding her appearance and clothing.

>>30228297
Or he got amnesia during the mission

>>30228486
How does he remember the mission then.

>>30228160
>She was already dead by ORAS
She was? I thought she was just chilling in Mt Pyre like a healthy and alive hex maniac would do. There was nothing spooky about meeting her there unlike the scene in XY.

>>30228794
This is true I suppose, but if she ain't dead and was always a loon then forget her being the girl with Nanu/Looker.

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>>30221837
To be fair, the MC of this game is a constantly smiling sociopath.

Mabye we were a bit quick to blame Rotom for the edgy dex entries if you catch my drift.

It could be possible that Looker was in Hoenn investigating Anabel's history after the events of SM, and he fell into a similar wormhole and ended up in ORAS.

>>30218061
Look at Gen 6 and tell me what you think.

Does anyone why the fuck we don't get our memories lost when we cross dimensions to get Cosmog?

>>30229171
What loose ends?

>>30229196
Because non canon.

>>30229196
All the people who lost their memories went between the alternate universes. You only went to Ultra Space.

>>30229171
Can't have lose ends when you haven't even started the threads.

>>30229290
He is talking about the postgame event where you go to the version's dimension to get a cosmog, not to the part where you fight lusamine.

>>30229290
I thought if we played Moon version, then you get to go to the Sun universe? Since the altar's and lake's names were switched around.

Or maybe I'm just thinking it too much.

>>30229342
>>30229346
Because non-canon. Capturing the Legendaries other than the box is always non-canon. Look at BW2, all the legendaries Hilber/Hilda supposedly captured were roaming around.

>>30226572
holy shit

>>30217930
pic?

>>30224842
kek underrated reply

>>30221889
The meteor didn't come down in Gen 3 because it probably landed in Birth Island, which is where you find Deoxys.

>>30229409
I would assume any legendary capture is non canon if the capture itself is not mandatory like reshiram/zekrom, xerneas/yveltal, and solgaleo/lunala

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>>30217598
I want Mohn to flick my bean

>>30220233
>>30220282
>>30220391

tfw there are a lot of Lookers like there are a lot of Joys

>>30230309
Mohn only flicks pokebeans.

>>30218756
Prevented what? Lusamine was already off the deep end by the time you meet her.

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>>30221792
Ultra Beast Hole

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>>30219628
HOY! WHAT ARE YOU SAYING

>>30222045
>the gay out of anabel
Was she ever gay?

Does that old man in the desert mean anything.

>>30217736
>All your bros are just sitting in the Bank with nothing to do
It hurts

>>30233821
He gives you something if you show him a Solrock or Lunatone.

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>>30229511
Top right

>>30217629

He deposited his Poke Beans into her box, you mean.

>>30217598
Mohn can bean me anytime he wants

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>>30217678

>>30217684
just because he has blond hair & green eyes and happens to have the same name does not mean its the same dude they they're "looking for"

>>30219691
And this is the reason i hate the multiverse shit that ORAS introduced, it ruined the franchise timeline with a shitty retcon

>>30235823
It was already a thing in X and Y.