>No Unique Z-Moves >No Alolan Forms >relagated to island

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>>30157056
>>still are collectively the least competitive starters of any gen
Come on, at least they're not the Unova starters.

>>30157056
Meganium was what killed gen 2 of getting anything.

>>30157104
Serperior's in OU though

>>30157104
Serperior is OU tho anon

>>30157104
idk if you heard but Serperior is OU anon

>>30157104
Ironically the Unova starters are useful in their respective tiers

>>30157242
especially Serperior, in OU

>>30157056
Gen 2 had the misfortune of being the first remakes after the 4th Gen physical/special split.
That, in addition to being on the DS, which feels much more convenient to transfer pokemon from than the GBA, means we won't be seeing Gen 2 attention again for a very, very long time.

I could see a 1st gen remake and a 4th gen remake far before a 2nd gen one.


2nd gen starters will see attention from GF when it's profitable to do so again.

>>30157104
Meganium, Typhlosion, and Feraligatr are PU, RU, and UU.
Serperior, Emboar, and Samurott are OU, RU, and NU.

On average, the Gen V starters are higher.

Gen 2 was a mistake

>>30157393
Johto was my one of my favorite regions but it's definitely a black sheep in the series.

Cramming Kanto into GSC was an interesting and fun idea but it left Johto in a weird limbo where it never quite felt strong enough or long enough as its own adventure. Not even in the remake.

>>30157056
>None of them get Z-Moves
>None of then get regional variants
>They had it better than every past gen starter set in that regard since you get them island 1 and they actually get to fucking exist before January
>Typhlosion and Feraligatr actually have pretty good movepools
>Okay you're right on this one

Why are Johtoddlers so whiny about their starters not becoming as annoyingly saturated as the current genwunner pandering

give typhlosion earth power and drought

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>>30157056
Typhlosion is my favorite pokemon ever, and first one I've trained to 100. This really upsets me, I was so sure he would be (finally) receiving some any love with Sun and Moon.

>>30157619
I always thought he'd be better if he got Solar Power, he'd be a nice sun-team sweeper

>>30157530

>Typhlosion
>Good movepool
>Give a special attacker every single physical move and 6 specials
>I love Focus Miss and Hidden Nightmare-to-Breed

>>30157056
>>relagated to island scan with no fanfare even though last gen the Kanto starters got their dicks sucked for little to no reason

Because People actually care about Kanto, fag. :)

Gen 2 fucking sucks. Just let it be forgotten already.

>>30159074
Name a pokemon game with 16 badges in it besides gen 2.

Protip: G/S/C had problems but I want another game with 2 full regions damnit.

>>30159132
No it didn't. It had 1 shitty region and 1 gimped region.

16 badges doesn't mean shit anyways. The level curve was so basic you could beat Johto's league with level 30 pokemon.

>>30159205
>It had 1 shitty region and 1 gimped region.
johto is a good region though, it has a great atmoshpere, good pokemon selection, as much content as kanto if not more, lots of side areas, some of the best gym fights in the series etc

agree kanto was bad though it was somewhat fixed in hg/ss along with the level curve

>>30159205
Fucking Unovabortions please leave.

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>>30159290
>good pokemon selection
>90% genwun starting from the very first route

>>30157056
>still are collectively the least competitive starters of any gen
They're definitely the cutest starters though.

>>30157056
The Gen 2 starters suck. They're the poster boys for "it just gets bigger and angrier", especially Typhlosion.

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>>30157104
>m- muh unova
>unova are all better
gen2 defence force at its finest

>>30159290
>good pokemon selection
Hope you enjoy encountering mostly Kanto Pokemon that you never find in the wild above level 14 even while you're right at the last gym.