Why did gumshoos stats have to be so goddamn bad? Does he have the worse stats in the line of early game normal types?
>>30147804
>base 110 attack with Strong Jaw-boosted Hyper Fang
>bad
Did you end up with a Stakeout?
>>30147856
>Strong Jaw-boosted Hyper Fang
>>30147864
You think I'm messing around?
Tell me about it. It's always getting outsped and it can't even take a hit sometimes.
>>30147864
Nice edit
>>30147856
No, I ended up with a slow mon with mediocre hp and shit defense. Attack doesn't do shit when you can't take a fuckin hit but you have to every turn.
>>30147864
You realize Hyper Fang is not Super Fang, right?
An incompetent cuck just like Drumpf.
>>30147864
>not abusing normie z-power strong jaw boosted hyper fang breakthrough and 1shotting your way throughout the first island
Nigga my Rattatta is GOAT
>>30147985
No he's pointing out how outclassed gumshoos is by talon flame I guess.
>>30148030
I swear if this single comment derails this thread I'm gonna be pissed.
>>30147978
Pretty much every Alola mon is slow.
Wait, is that an actual pokemon?
>>30148077
It suits the atmosphere, I suppose.
Does Gumshoos at least get Sucker Punch? It has good coverage and hits like a truck, it just needs a way to deal with things faster than it (or trick room support)
>>30148334
Yes
>>30147804
Raticate and furret are a lot worse
Too bad linoone has belly drum espeed and bibarel is a God
What was fifth and 6th gens normal early game shitmon? I can't even remember
>>30148483
5th gen is Watchog
6th gen is Diggersby
In terms of viability
Diggersby>>>Linoone>Bibarel>>>Gumshoos=Raticate>Watchog>Furret
>>30147804
Eh, Adaptability Return is pretty nice at least
>>30148513
Oh fuck, how could I forget diggersby? I'll probably forgot watchog by tomorrow though
>>30148532
bibarel is fucking GOAT you fool
>>30148625
The only good version of bibs is banned. Huge power EQs aren't.
>>30149948
>letting Smogon dictate what you can and can't use
The good version of Bibarel can still be used in the actual games. It's like saying Mawile is less viable than other Megas because you can't use M-Mawile in OU.
>>30148532
>tfw really like watchog
>tfw this ranking is basically true
>>30149948
>>30150657
>The good version of Bibarel
what is that?