Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 3: GOOD ROTOMORNING, I AM THE ROTOM ZUKAN, ROTO! & 4: ENTER MOKUROH! I GOT A POKÉMON IN ALOLA!! (NOVEMBER 24TH)
>Satoshi and Pikachu's new partner, the Rotom Zukan, makes its debut! And Satoshi gets his first Pokémon in the Alola region!?
>Also, the new data broadcast system starts, and we have extravagant prizes as well
>And Abareru-kun appears too

>Summary:
>"Good Rotomorning, I am the Rotom Zukan, Roto!"
>Satoshi receives a new Pokémon Zukan from Professor Kukui. Incredibly enough, this Pokémon Zukan is an amazing Pokémon Zukan that can speak human language, called the "Rotom Zukan". Satoshi and Pikachu immediately go to the forest with the Rotom Zukan. Meanwhile, the evil organization known as the Rocket Gang arrives in the Alola region on orders from their boss Sakaki, and...?

>"Enter Mokuroh! I Got a Pokémon in Alola!!"
>One day, Satoshi meets a hungry Mokuroh, a Grass Quill Pokémon. In an attempt to get it, Satoshi and the others chase after it into the forest. But the forest contains the habitat of the Woodpecker Pokémon Tsutsukera! Satoshi and the others watch Mokuroh and the Tsutsukera with great interest, but then the Rocket Gang show up!

>Data Broadcast:
>The "Pocket Monsters Sun & Moon" data broadcast is filled with features, like "PokéProblems"; quiz questions related to the episode, and "PokéMeter", which shows QR codes you can read with the "Pokémon Sun/Moon" video games! Push the d-button on your remote while the show is airing.
>"PokéMeter":
>If you fill the meter all the way while the show is airing, a special QR code will be displayed. Read this special QR code and register it in the zukan in the video game "Pocket Monsters Sun/Moon"!
>"PokéProblems":
>Answer 4 quiz questions by using the colored buttons on your remote. If you get a question right, you'll get 3 points, but even if you get it wrong, you'll still get 1 point. If you get at least 10 points total, you get the chance to win a prize!

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Daisuke Namikawa: Rotom Zukan
>Kei Shindo: Lilie
>Kaito Ishikawa: Kaki
>Reina Ueda: Mao
>Hitomi Kikuchi: Suiren
>Fumiko Takekuma: Māmane
>Keiichi Nakagawa: Professor Kukui
>Unsho Ishizuka: Principal Okido
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kenta Miyake: Sakaki
>Risa Shimizu: Joy
>Rikako Aikawa: Ashimari
>Mika Kanai: Togedemaru
>Chika Fujimura: Amakaji
>Chinami Nishimura: Nyabby
>Abareru-kun: Anime Cheerleading Chief

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 60 (Nov 25th)

SM5 - Popplio, Do Your Balloonest! (Dec 1st)

SM6 - Togedemaru: Prickling and Tingling! (Dec 8th)

POKEMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT COLLECTION VOL 2:
https://my.mixtape.moe/buzdoe.zip

ALOLA!:
https://mega.nz/#!ABsWQTbY!d1ILUTYt2IyO6hW97_Jk8YY9BVuvEdrHAu8J2uMwYR0

Delia is 29 years old in canon. Some of us are older than Ash's mother now.

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Will we see Ashninja use a Z-move?

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Ayy yo, it's ya boi stitch-kun here with a bunch of stitches from episode 1 and 2.

I was avoiding /vp/ when the first episode aired so I couldn't dump these at that time.

1/23

>>30079639
It will be the orange shuriken again.

I miss Serena...

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>>30079642
2/23

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>>30079632
KILL YOURSELF SCOTT YOU SAD MOTHERFUCKER

>>30079642
>23 images

No easier to just put them in an imgur album or something?

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Thick Dawn best Dawn.

>Based rato

That's not Dedenne, faggot. He earned that spot

>>30079683
Fuck off Noodle

>>30079632
How does it feel to be old enough to be the father of those young Pokegirl waifus?

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>>30079676
3/23

>>30079639
That's such a fucking cool shot.

>>30079605
Just woke up.

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>>30079712
4/23

>>30079642
How old are they? The are riding bikes in school grounds.

>>30079642
no thanks

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>>30079746
5/23

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They know about quality ratto and they are doing it again, that's why Sophocles will be relevant for the entire series and you WILL like him

>>30079738
Love the BGM that plays during that scene

https://youtu.be/8LFddA7P9FE?t=238

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for you /padt/

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>>30079770
6/23

>>30079783
He won't be the only one with quality shots.

>>30079693
It's not rato, anon, it's fato.

>>30079677
This. The way you're doing it, we're just reaching image limit faster.

>>30079798
Lanafags have arguably been more loud than Mallowfags though

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>>30079801
7/23

>>30079792
That's not even the full OST. It's just a guy who took the officially released movie tracks that have been used in the anime and re-uploaded them with his own fake titles.

>>30079808
No one cares about the image limit

>>30079798
You forgot us filterfags that don't give a shit about waifugarbage

>>30079798
Add one lonely faggot crying in the corner saying "I-I just wanted to discuss the anime" and it's complete.

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>>30079827
8/23

>>30079798
Instead of Mallowfags and Lilliefags fighting, it should be just Lilliefags picking on Mallowfags out of jealousy while everyone mocks them because their waifuis irrelevant.

>>30079827
>that Lapras
>some little shit is coming my way

>>30079822
You are kidding right? The waifufags have been Lilliefags vs Mallowfags.

>>30079808
Anon, we reach bump limit long before image limit, and /vp/ is so fast these days the threads don't last very long after that.

>>30079828
It says vol 1 of HIS findings. It's not official or some shit. He's working on vol 2 now. Seems like he tries to find soundtracks used in XY and put it together in no real order.

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>>30079870
9/23

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>>30079893
10/23

>>30079880
It's more like retarded Lilliefags trying to take on every other pokegirlfags while embarrassing themselves.

>>30079632
source?

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>>30079919
11/23

>>30079893
I'm glad this battle didn't happen.

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>>30079940
12/23

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XY was better for stiches

>>30079940
FATO!

>"Ash x Lillie"
http://www.strawpoll.me/11677003
Two-round system
"AureliaShipping" or "AshlieShipping"

>>30079557
This is actually animated worse than the Phoenix Wright anime.

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>>30079970
13/23

>>30079973
Hopefully we get more like those, I enjoyed stitching those really detailed shots.

SM seems to be more on the brighter color palette side of things.

>>30079844
You might as well not exist.

>>30079977
No?

But Phoenix Wright anime has Tomioka has head writer ;__;

>>30079977
Not really.

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>>30080008
14/23

>>30079874
More like Serenafags picking on Lilliefags out of jealousy.

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>>30080043
15/23

>>30079977
Is this going to be a mandatory post in these threas? Someone claiming the animation is shit confusing it with art style.

FRIENDLY REMINDER

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-11-18-nintendo-switch-will-get-pokemon-sun-and-moon-version
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/799578382778433536

>>30079977
The animation is fucking amazing you dumbass.

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>>30080077
16/23

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>>30079639
I would be surprised if he didn't do an appearance sometimes in the series together with Zygarde since Zygarde has a plot in the games and Ash-greninja can only be used in SM. Then again they could just write off the zygarde plot.

Z-move Ash-greninja would be the most OP shit we would see in the anime though.

>>30080100
I know it's the camera angle, but damn, that Mallow.

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>>30080072

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>>30080100
17/23

>>30080114
Mallow right now is my favorite Sun and Moon girl, her voice is really pleasing to listen to and her energy and attitude is great.

>>30080072
They have nothing to be jealousy since Lillie was an extra in the first episodes

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>>30080105
I'm going to miss mature looking based Ash so much ;_;

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>>30080146
18/23

>>30080105
Greninja doesn't have movements flashy enough to use besides the shuriken.

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>>30080146
I thought I was the only one who liked her voice. It wasn't incredibly over the top like many girls in anime nowadays.

>>30080179
*be jealous

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>>30079973
This one is one of my favorites

>>30080190
What did he mean by this

>>30080132
Serena. You shouldn't be hating on Lillie just because she is prettier than you.

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>>30080183
19/23

>>30080200
Is was softer and younger then what I originally expected her to sound like and with her energetic personality those two things are really shown given how the sound of her voice would lead one to expect her to be more soft spoken.

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>>30080086
Lillie is going to take her place as the rightful protagonist of this generation?

>>30080212
This shit is eyes porn

>>30080086
Will they expand the postgame content?

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>>30080254
20/23

>>30080212
I expect as Sun and Moon progresses that the backgrounds will become more detailed.

If you compare the backgrounds from the start of XY and those later on in the series the attention to detail and realism gets quite a bit better.

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>>30080312
21/23

>>30079639
>>30079973
>>30080181
>>30080212

I'm gonna miss XY so much

>>30080179
An extra yet she had a decent amount if lines despite sharing screen time with 5 companions. When there are moments when Serena hardly gets any with 3.

>>30080254
Why didn't Kiawe use his charizard to battle Team Skull?

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>>30080351
22/23

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>>30080354
ORETACHI WA MOTTO MOTTO TSUYOKU, IKUZO GEKKOUGA!!!

>>30080266
>mfw naysayers don't even try to argue against the symbolism of this shot in the OP
>mfw naysayers don't even talk about how she is the only non-Satoshi character that interacts with Pikasama

>>30080358
>yet she had a decent amount if lines
No

>>30080358
>When there are moments when Serena hardly gets any with 3.
Not in her first episode. She was show in her house, tired of Ryhorn Racing and her mom. Then she recongnized Ash on TV, it was great tb.h

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>>30080239
Yeah, sure

>>30080397
>mfw it's because no one bothers to argue with idiots
>mfw I have no face

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>>30080376
23/23

Last one for now.

This was the first time that I used ALL the frames from a diagonally panning shot. I tried different techniques to get the blending perfect but couldn't figure it out so I did what I usually do while stitching.

I have more pictures I want to do, like the school gates, Tapu Koko, Bewear and some other stuff I believe but I'll have to do those at a later date.

>>30080418
She talked a lot, specially in the second episode. She described everything, from Poplio's super-speed a swimmer to Top Kek's situation and its special moves.

>>30079677
>>30079808
I've dumped stitches this way ever since XY started, we rarely reach image limit nowadays anyway so it doesn't really matter.

>>30080438
Thanks.

Right now I'm Mallow > Lana > Lillie

Although Lana is probably going to be the best girl as SM progresses.

>>30080479
I mean, DP Brock did that. She is used as exposition

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Are you going to miss the potato?

>>30080369
Maybe it doesn't fight, you can see it resting on the floor next scene.

>>30080529
But unlike Brook, being a bookworm that knows everything is actually her deal.

>>30080529
That might change after Rotomdex is introduced.

>>30080515
The real best girl list from best to worst is:

Mallow>Kaki>Kukui>Lillie>Lana>Sophocles

I'm REALLY hoping Lillie gets even a fraction of the development she gets in the games. I don't think it's likely, but I would love for her to get the same amount of time given to her in the anime as she did the games.

With how XY handled character development I believe that we could see some decent growth for these characters, but whether or not it will be to the degree the games gave Lillie I have my doubts.

>>30080438
These are nice.

>>30080587
Rotomdex' exposition is supposed to be funnily wrong. I can actually see him and Lillie fighting a lot.

>>30080418
Did you even watch the show? Lillie spoke a fair amount for a first episode. The scene where she meets ash, and the scene about Tapu koko.

Like you said, you could care less about Serena in the first episode since she was never there.

>>30080641
Lana will likely be the best. Her type of personality hasn't really been done in the anime before, and for that reason she will be new and fresh.

>>30080641
>Mallow and Kaki up front
Good taste.

>>30080656
What kind of inventor would create a pokedex that gives wrong info?

>>30080662
She probably won't considering they killed her perfect game personality
It's a shame

>>30080662
>shy action girl hasn't been done before
That was Serena early on once she started getting more development.

Also
>Lana not voiced by Kana Hana
I'm still disappointed about this, her character looks like a perfect KanaHana role.

>>30080662
Yeah, it will be interesting to see what are they going to do with Lana since she was confirmed an action girl.

Kukui > Pikachu > Litten > Lillie > Suiren > Popplio > Kaki > Mao > Fat fuck > El rato > Alolan Okido

I don't really like Mallow, she is super-generic. Literally the most generic character the anime has seen to date. And I say this as someone who loves her VA. SM's animation is way better, but Appmon has a better and more interesting main cast desu.

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When will he appear in the anime?

>>30080712
Still surprised KanaHana hasn't done someone in the anime yet. She was the voice of May in the ORAS trailer iirc, but I don't think that counts.

>>30080760
If Hoshigumo, Gladion or Lusamine appear it becomes the Lillie show. So not before episode 50.

>>30080712
>Kana Hana
That would be such a blatant way to say she will be the shipbait.

>>30080774
Gladio didn't care that much about Lillie, he will get more focus with Ash when he is introduced.

>>30080779
>Kana = shipbait
No where near the reason I want her to voice Lana, especially since I'm a serenafag.

She does the perfect soft spoken but energetic voice while also being able to do more actiony stuff on the side.

The personality and character design line up perfectly with her past roles.

What does /padt/ like about Lana?

>>30080757
>ranking pokemon and humans together

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>>30080239
I dont think she's prettier but ok, i wont say anything else then! hehe~~!!

>>30080760
Episode 26, when the school arc ends and the island challenge arc begins.

>>30080836
Why would he remove the ribbon?

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>>30080774
>it becomes the Lillie show
>The more interesting character gets the spotlight
Sounds like a good deal to me

>>30080842
Who?

>>30080749
>>30080662
How are they going to handle soft-spoken action girl? Sounds like a weird combination.

>>30080857
>Even replying
You've said enough you ugly bitch.

>>30080885
We'll see soon.

Lana is the dark horse. She's the least physically attractive (aside to loli's), but she's going to be the best.

>>30080824
In the Japanese version he is way more protective of Lillie and some people even joke that he has siscon tendencies. But it doesn't matter since the anime basically butchered most of the game cast this time around; only Kukui, Sophocles and Mallow somewhat similar to their game incarnations. Lillie, Lana and Kiawe are different characters with the same name and design.

>>30080774
If we could just not make it the Lillie show, and instead give most of that screentime to Gladion and Lusamine, that'd be great.

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So Cosmog is in the egg right?

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>>30080857

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>>30080906
Sorry, i wont do it again! hehehe~

>>30080939
retard

>>30080939
The egg is brown.

>this time around
The anime has been "butchering" the game personalities from day one. Shirtless buff stoic man game Brock has nothing to do with wannabe womanizer dork Brock.

>>30080962
Yes and?

>>30080957
Good argument

>>30080968
Don't bother with that idiot, he's been bitching about it for days.

>>30080938
Nah.

>>30080991
Cosmog wouldn't come out of an egg. It's literally an Ultra Beast.

>>30080991
Usually the egg has the color pattern of the baby. I would expect Cosmog's egg to be black or purple.

>>30081001
>>30081022
a cute

Isn't Mallow just Shauna with green hair and a cooking motif?

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>>30080968
This. I'll never not be salty that Misty can't ever be brought up without Ash and Pokeshipping

>>30081029
Isn't every girl x with x at this point?

>>30080938
They won't make it the "Lillie show" and focus on a character that doesn't know how to battle.

>>30081029
If you mean anime Shauna then no, Mallow is way too different to her.

when will greninja finish mowing zygardes lawn?

>>30081108
Never

>>30081108
When the Kalos remakes come out when 4chan has long since shut down.

>>30081005
>Other dimensional beings can't hatch from eggs or come from egg-like shells

>>30081024
There aren't many Pokemon that share that color that would important enough to warrant a sub-plot dedicated to it.

>>30081108
When Ash finally turns 11.

>>30081060
She will be a trainer in Stars's post-game, though.

>>30080968
It's difficult knowing the personality of a game character because most of the time they speak too little to get a proper idea
However trial captains have very unique personalities and it's easy to tell, because unlike gym leaders you interact with them outside battles
That's why Lana feels like wasted potential, and it's sad because we would have had a really fresh and interesting character

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>>30081060
>What is this "conflict" you speak of? Characters can't have that.

>>30081108
when you finally stop touching yourself at night

>>30081202
*could

So will SM be less battle oriented or not?

How long does it usually take for characters to get there shipping names?

You know it always gets me when Gary appears to be older every time he shows up but Ash remains the same.

>>30081236
I honestly don't think it will be much less. It's just going at a more natural pace now.

>>30081202
We already have her as a refreshing character, it's the first time we have a soft-spoken girl who is considered an action girl and they have three years to develop her.

>>30081282
If you are in Japan, nothing.

>>30081108
When shitposting ends

The more I play SM and look at Lillie's second costume the more I realize she is basically the only shoe-in for a traveling relaunch if they decide to do one.

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>>30081236
Looks like it? It's interesting considering the trails are still a thing but the in-game trail captains aren't in charge and need to do them too, save for Kiawe

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>>30081282
Not soon enough

>>30081236
No
considering there are 7 trial captains and 4 Kahunas which is more than the 8 gym battles there should overall be more battles than XY

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>>30081375
Talking about trials, what they fuck were they trying to imply with this part?

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>>30081409
>"SxM"
I didn't expect this.

>>30081463
They knew what they were doing

>>30081236
Probably not, we have 7 trial captains and 4 kahunas. They can also use totem pokemon but I don't how they could work in the anime.

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>>30081463

>>30081282
what would Kiawe x Satoshi be

>>30080947
Damn, why is she so cute?

>>30081463
>that last part
They did it on purpose, didn't they?

I feel like we didn't see much interactions with the characters to create shipping names

>>30081576
Homolust, what was Alan x Satoshi name?

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>>30080181
Me too

>>30081576
Hotrockshipping

So is the Grubbin and Bewear that's going to be caught going to be the same ones from episode one?

>>30081463
>that focus on her body every time you perform an action
Maybe I shoul buy the games.

So with the 3rd version of SM coming to Switch next year (presumably around this same time) will the anime immediately get a new series too? Will they introduce the villains to forefront like they did with XYZ? Will Serena come back

>>30081680
No one is catching Bewear and yeah that Grubbin is the same.

>>30081582
Silly anon, because she is in love !

>>30081680
The OP and ED give us a lot of spoilers.

>>30081730
I don't know, but it will probably be the first game I don't buy since Gen IV. Like fuck I will be buying a flop console just for one game.

>>30081730
If she make a cameo it would be on mid 2018

>>30081783
Wonder who is catching alolan Raichu.

>>30081783
Yeah I'm surprised it literally shows him catching Grubbin.

>>30081889
The ED also shows Satoshi performing some Z moves, probably the ones he is going to use in the series.

>>30081857
The fat fuck.

>>30081783
>>30081889
Oddly enough there is no Pikipek in the OP, I hope this is a signal they are skipping the regional bird.

>>30081463
Mallow is cute

>>30081207
Having character conflict doesn't mean the whole show will be about her.

This has probably been asked before, but is this a reboot? It's just so abrupt how it starts and what it is to believe it's a continuation.

>>30081362
You mean in the anime? It's obvious she will be a traveling companion.

>>30081857
If Hau is going to appear, then is him probably.

>>30082080
No?

>>30082080
No. Ash recounts his past experiences with Tauros in the very first episode.

>>30082102
So they show his pokemon first then the trainer?

>>30082117
That I know, but it seems like anything post-Kanto is irrelevant, or is being purposefully made irrelevant. Rather than a hard universe reboot, I mean to ask if this is the decision to take it an entirely different direction and separate it from the anime thus far?

>>30082145
What do you want? An entire episode of him reminiscing?

>>30082145
>it seems like anything post-Kanto is irrelevant
Isn't that always the case?

>>30082168
No, a transition from what he was just doing before the events of SM that properly bridges XYZ and SM without making it seem like SM is forgetting XYZ entirely.

>>30082191
Well, I guess more often than not, but usually the first episode is dedicated to some kind of transition, with at least some callback.

>>30082214
They showed what happened and how he got there and what he did with the XY pokemon and everything.

>>30082214
>Ash walks into his house
>like in the XYZ finale
>next day Mimey wins the lottery
Boom, SM just started. I'd much rather they focus on making the actual story good, rather than waste time trying to connect dots.

>>30082231
I don't know, maybe it's what would be called metaphorical autism, but the fact that everything post-animation shift has nothing to do with that is giving me a sense of dissonance.

>>30082260
That's true, it's not a major gripe, I was just wondering if there's any real intent to sort of 'restart' Ash's story and give him actual (temporal) growth.

>>30082145
On Twitter, one of the anime staffers said that Satoshi and the other characters might come across as different in terms of feel/tone, but that shouldn't be misconstrued to mean different in terms of the story or the anime canon.

>>30080968
>The anime has been "butchering" the game personalities from day one
To butcher a personality they would have to try to recreate the game personality but fail at it, that would be actual butchering.
Changing the personality of a game character and doing their own thing with them is not butchering just because you don't like them.

>>30082288
>I was just wondering if there's any real intent to sort of 'restart' Ash's story and give him actual (temporal) growth.
I think the early reference to the Tauros dispels that notion.

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>>30082260
That's Mr.Mimey to you son

>>30082309
Thanks, that pretty much puts the nail in the coffin. While it takes a little taking used to, I like the new animation, and after playing moon and really loving the game story, I'm excited for what the anime will bring.

>>30082336
Yeah, but isn't he supposed to turn 11 canonically in order to undergo the trials?

>>30082376
>Yeah, but isn't he supposed to turn 11 canonically in order to undergo the trials?
They're probably just not going to mention age.
Like they usually do.

>>30082309
Rica just said that because everyone was shitting on SM Ash

>>30082342
>that cheeky smile
She's getting clowned every night.

How is the anime this time around? I just saw the first episode and I thought it was pretty decent, what do you guys think? It may seem a little kiddy, but maybe there's potential with the Tapu's, UB's, Aether, etc

>>30082501
The series actually feels "new" again. XY definitely had some great moments, but it was still forced into the same formula in the end. I want to see what they can do, now that they can go in multiple different directions.

>>30082535
Still feel Ash should have been wrapped up with XY, and this new SM style would have used a new protagonist.

>>30082579
Nah Ash and Pikachu need to stay

>>30082463
But it wasn't Rica? It was someone else on the staff.

>>30082617
Really? Who?

>>30082579
That would've been the biggest risk the anime has ever taken, and there's a 50% chance it would've completely killed it. Not worth the risk.

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>>30082579
Hell no, XY was bland as shit. I wouldn't want Ash's saga to end there, especially via shoehorned Gary Stu powers.

Greninja was cool but I'm glad he lost in the end and got taken down a peg.

>>30082695
The sound director, Mima Masafumi.

>>30082740
Shh anon, you can't say words like those around these parts!

what if grubbin was a ruse?

>>30082740
Ash didn't train Greninja's base form, he relied too much on the bond phenomenon

>>30082904
For what purpose?

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>>30082778
Why

>>30082904
Ash loves bug pokemon, I'm sure he will try to catch it again.

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Good Night padt

>>30083032
We already know Mallow

>>30082579
Changing of protagonist at this point would do more damage than good. The risk it too high.

>>30083108
That's Hau

>>30083140
Who?

Which girls canonically prefer anal?

>>30082102
It's alola Dugtrio also his.

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>>30083032
okay Ash.

>>30083182
Lewd.

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>>30083032
B-B-Baka! W-W-What are you saying all of sudden!!

>>30083182
Finally an artist who gets Lillie sleeves right.

>>30083140
>brown skin
>green hair
Just like her

Why does Lillie want to be fucked so hard?

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>>30083255
>>30083160

>>30083112
Surely padt knows about business

>>30083241
but Hau is not a hot thick girl, is he?

I literally have no problems with any of the dub voices, I have a problem with the scripts though.

>>30083286
That's nice anon.

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Meme face Lillie is cute

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>>30083302
And that's how I met your mother.

>>30083271
Would you get rid of you already effective markenting tool forever just to try a new onw?

>>30083330
They sure are fat

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>>30083330
cute

>>30083325
What's with the last one?

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Does XYZ give Zygarde enough love?

>>30083385
Even that Pikachu is fat

>>30083427
He is just turning back to his original design.

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>>30083302
>Ever marrying.

>>30083182
This looks like rape.

>>30082904
Nah, the only reason Ash is catching one is so that he can reuse the electric type Z moves with Vikavolt.

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>>30083302
>S-Stupid... How could I even refuse in this situation?

>>30083330
>bastardizing a nice pic
Lilliefags sure are a pest

>>30083511
The original pic looked awful to begin with, those faces are terrible.

>>30083412
Ditto face

>>30083521
It's far better than the crap Lilliefags do here

>>30083418
Only in the final arc

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Never forger
2013-2016

>>30083560
Liliefags are the new Cornifags.

>>30083560
Only edits are crap, actual OC is good and looks good.

>>30082904
>grubbin
Then I would be sad. If Ash catches that Grubbin and then evolves it he'll have his first ever electric type mon other than Pikachu.

>>30083586
Forget*

>>30083586
I want to forget jobberbat.

>>30083586
Best traveling group and best family, hands down.

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>>30083586

>yfw SM ends with them telling Ash he should return when the League is finished

>>30083766
lewd

I guess I never realized until XY that Moltress is called Fire in nip

What is a "Pokemon Master"?

I feel like the meaning of that title has been lost.

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>>30083989
There is no such title, its a made up position by Ash and many other people to describe someone who's caught and mastered ever Pokemon and defeated all the leagues.

>>30084028
>you will never inhale it

>>30083112
Risk is high? Literally kids would watch a new series no matter who is the protagonist because they want to see the pokemon animated from the games they play. Most of them do not even know or care Ash has been around 20 years.

I don't get this logic.

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>Chicken-chan will never get to appear in the anime

>>30083989
It's purposely ambiguous, we're not getting into this again.

>>30084282
Mizuki anon
MI-ZU-KI

>>30083112
This bastard of an "Ash" already does a lot of damage. They should just have let him win the league and finish his story, this would also justify all the Ash Greninja hype.

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Holy shit this episode.

THIS FUCKING EPISODE

>>30084404
Ugh this shit is fucking cringe

>>30084344
Exactly my point. A never ending protagonist is far worse than them risking a new lead.

The writers also know after changing the female lead 6 times and bringing in new male companions that kids will watch no matter who the main characters arc.

>>30084404
Serena was really written like she was meant to be Ash's endgame

>>30084344
>>30084421
>build up brand image for 20 years
>flush it down the toilet for no reason
no
that is not business

>>30084524
Brand image? Ash can be wrapped up. The pokemon anime can focus on anyone. We've already had dozens of specials over the years where Ash doesn't even appear in.

They can just throw in another Pikachu of some kind in the show in a manner, but Ash himself can be wrapped up.

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>>30084524
It's already flushed down the toilet by having this retarded Ash.

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>>30084524
Rebrands can be good. For a long while you could say this image was as much of a "brand image" as just ash and Pikachu. They changed, they can change again.

>>30084557
No reason to do so yet. Rica's still on the ball, and Satoshi is a known face to old viewers.

As anon said earlier, you don't throw that away without any sort of contingency measures. If it isn't broken, don't try to fix it.

Wth were with those challenges in S/M ep 2 anyway? Everyone challenging Ash and Pikachu in ways where the challengers are at a blatant/obvious advantage.

>fatso brings a hedgehog to a balloon popping task
>hurr durr try to outswim a water pokemon with an electric one
Maybe I am just trying to find too much sense in an anime intended for children but this bothers my autism. This beyond the Team Rocket level of stupid.

How long until we get a season two of SM with no school?

>>30084621
The constant rebrands are obviously the writers in "panic mode."

They changed Ash's design drastically for the first time in 20 years. They already flat out treating this like it could be a different character.

>>30084404
One of the best XY episodes

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>>30084645
>The constant rebrands are obviously the writers in "panic mode."
The higher ups are too attached to those degenerates and should have fired some of them a long time ago including the one responsible for Serena's haircut.

>le XY Ash was better maymay xD
No. At least in SM, Ash has an actual personality. AND he took down Team Skull grunts in the first episode while in the first episode of XY his battle with Clemont was interrupted by TR.

>>30084645
They've always got to keep trying new things, doesn't mean that they're desperate or that they are throwing everything preexisting out the window.

Its that time again huh?

>>30084673
Fuck off, 77.

>>30084711
Fuck off, Scott.

>>30084697
They practically go close to doing that every gen now. Ash's role could have been the Sun/Moon boy's from the games and barely anything would change.

>>30084677
that reminds me

when's rocket going to show up?

>>30084740
>chicken will never be the protag of SM anime

>>30084677
>Ash has an actual personality
Stopped reading right there

>>30084734
Lurk more, fag.

>>30084740
So has been the argument for every generation ever since bloody AG. And guess what? It never has happened.

>>30084785
That was a decade ago when the anime was still doing very well. We're now over 20 years in and the reason this revamp is happening is because they were in panic mode seeing XY's declining viewership and the rise of Yokai Watch.

They've been in panic mode since BW before that. AG and DP could get away with using Ash because the show was still doing well that it didn't matter. Now each saga does drastically worse than the previous.

>>30084826
Fuck off, Scott.

>>30083766
What the fuck is happening?

>>30084826
Fuck off, Scott.

>>30084802
not private

>>30084673
You really like Serena a lot, even shorthairena, you can't hide it.

>>30084956
I do like them both but short hair Serena less because of the unnecessary changes made to her.

>tfw favorite move in the anime is my least favorite type of move in the game

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I want to fuck them.

>>30085258
lolis don't have midsections like that

>>30084826
Yeah, except Yo-kai Watch is declining in ratings too.

Fuck off Scott.

Serious question: have most of the thread's (serious, not-falseflagging) Amourshippers left already? Or are they still here?

>>30085513
I honestly thought they left, but apparently they still continue to spam here.

>>30085513
I'm still here.

I'll be here until SM somehow manages to fuck up so badly it makes me stop watching (which I doubt will happen)

>>30085533
Maybe those are the falseflaggers?

>>30085513
I'll be here until the next gen.

>>30085513
seems like the amourposting has died down a lot

>>30085513
Some Amourshippers likely did leave. Others are probably still here now but will leave sometime early next year.

I think its easy to forget a lot of people only came back for XY because of both competent Ash and the shipping. Now that both of those aspects are gone, the "endgame" feeling is too, so people feel there isn't any reason to watch an endless show.

New:
>>30085646
>>30085646
>>30085646

>>30085631
Fuck off, Scott.

>>30085562
Fuck off, Mimi.

>>30085513
They're still here, obviously. This thread alone had 54 posters.

>>30085631
What are you?

>>30085704
That's Scott

>>30085704
That's Scott, he's a shitposter.

>>30085710
>>30085722
I know, I meant what shipping supports

Man, even watching the dub, this anime puts a big smile on my face.

Happy to see subbing will continue, I still much prefer it that way.