Japan's main complaint about S&M: "Pokemon cal

>>30069174
Early game held item that prevents Pokemon from calling for help. There you go.

>>30069174
I don't see why all you fags are whining. I think it's fun as hell. You can turn it off with para and it helps you chain for cooler mons.

>>30069198
Fling Toxic orb?

I miss hordes...

>>30069174
>this is their complaint
>not shitty poke ride
>not shitty trials

>>30069174
What are their other gripes?

I want Hau removed. I rather have gym matches.

>>30069174
They literally just want pokemon catching to be a two turn process.

Nips are dumb, just inflict an ailment and they stop.

You get Thunderwave on the first route via pichu and A-Raichu is a top tier mon.

>>30069222
No, like an item that you give your pokemon, like some sort of sound canceler, that activates when they try to call for help.

No need to fling a toxic orb. For fuck's sake.

>>30069255
Do they tell you this? Like they baby you so much why wouldn't they?

>>30069249
This is the number one gripe, repeated constantly as the worst part of the game.

Call for help legit made me not want to catch Pokemon in my play through. After I got a party of 6 I just stocked up on Super Repels and never looked back.

>>30069290
P sure he was joking. And it had a point too because all you need is to status a mon for it not to call for help.

>>30069174
>try for hours trying for rare SOS mon
>never calls for help, only calls shit mon

>Just going through normal battles, trying to catch new pokemon
>Every turn calls for help when available
>run out of PP for moves
>run out of healing items so I don't have to trek back to pokemon center

First time I ever needed to stock up on ethers in any pokemon game with the exception of E4 battles

>>30069174
>Introduce Adrenaline orb
>Don't make an opposite

Bravo, GF.

>>30069174
I really hate it too. What should take me like 1 minute to catch a pokemon becomes 5 or more.

>>30069211
>I don't see why all you fags are whining
Because it's a pain in the ass to get stuck waiting for the help to stop coming so you can throw a pokeball

>>30069565
>what is sweet scent

>>30069478
>stock up on ethers

What did he mean by this?

They copied that mechanic from Dragon Quest. What makes it so bad in Pokemon?

How to fix SOS:
>allow catching pokemon when there are two on screen
>only one successful SOS call per battle unless an Adrenaline Orb is used
>Adrenaline Orb forces all SOS calls to be successful

>>30069998
I hated that mechanic in Dragon Quest, its part of the reason I don't play those games anymore.

>Pokemon calls for help
>Start lagging

Fuck you I will not shill out for a N3DS

>>30069174
I think its a awesome addition tbqh.

>>30069246
>Hating on pokeride
>Hating on trials
end it.

>>30069174
Just click Run nigga lmao

>>30069998
Honestly, I like it.

>>30069246
Pokerides and trials are better than HMs and gyms you fucking faggot

>>30070030
But if you can catch 2 then you could easily chain multiple shiny/ good stat pokemon and i'm sure that's why GF doesn't do it, they don't want us to do that.

>>30070178
just end the battle when you catch their friend, then. "rattata saw its friend get captured and fled"

>>30069837
Then use a status move on the pokemon, retard.

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Why do japs almost always have the worst taste with Pokemon-related things?
First it was the popularity poll, and now they're complaining about the game being made more difficult. Did they ever complain about how OR/AS was easy?

>>30069174
Can Incineroar use Throat Chop to prevent the Pokémon from calling for help?

>>30070252
popularity poll was 50% kids voting for le cool ninja froge, 50% people voting for legendary or rare pokemon they want distributed

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>Use an attack to make pokemon health go to red
>Uses sand attack
>Calls for help
>Miss attack to new pokemon
>They use fire spin and sand attack
>miss
>Sand attack
>miss
>miss

>>30070174
>implying defeating a gym leader in a pokemon battle isn't good

>>30069174
>still pushing the Stars meme
Go back to Twitter, Emily.

>>30070110
I'd like pokerides more if they didn't have HUGE plastic things on every pokemon

>the games are getting easier because Nips are shit

SEND ANOTHER NUKE.

>>30069332
Not the same guy, but I didn't know that statusing a Pokemon stops it from calling for help until you just said it, so thank you for telling me this.

>>30069174
They complained Ghetsis was to hard iirc

>>30070306
Jesus christ, this.
Made even worse by the fact that Alolan Pokemon are slow as molasses, so you often can't outspeed and finish it quickly.

>>30069174
They just needed to make it that a Pokemon can't call for help in the same turn that a wild Pokemon was KO'd in UNLESS you have an Adrenaline Orb. Also, make it so that Adrenaline Orb prevents failed call for helps.

>>30069306
Is this why the amazon score is so low for them?
It's not really a big deal

>TFW never had this happen to me yet

Just beat the Gumshoos, when will this shit start hitting me?

>>30070563
About now, if you are a retard and aren't packing any status effects.

>>30070306
Switch out! Jeez its like you fags dont even know how to play.

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>>30069174
>not lillie
>not the insane amount of cutscenes and railroading
>but the mechanic that brings something new to wild battles that you can run from anytime

>>30070111
Not when the new Pokemon have such a low encounter rate. Two Spearows or two Goldeens? Sure, fuck those guys. But I want to catch new Pokemon in peace.

they should just make it possible to catch pokemon when there's two on the field and problem solved

I'd love it if it started a double battle.

>>30070331
That's just reallistic. If pokémon existed in the real world, you should ride it wearing the proper gear.

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>Electric-type SOS and your only status moves are Paralysis
>Grass-type SOS and all of your status moves are powders

>>30070668
Right? It's not as if it's hard to throw a ball more in a certain direction.

Well, here's a story for you:
>Find a Carbink
>Get it in the red
>It calls for help
>Sableye reinfocements
>It Shadow Balls the Carbink

whatadick.jpg.

>>30070437
desu so did a lot of western shitters unable to deal with the Hydreigon

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>>30070642

>games are piss easy
>japs like it but westerners dont
>make game more difficult
>west loves it and japs hate it
really gets the gray matter grindin

>>30069174
They could kind of tone it down a little
>kill one, go to pokeball
>Pokemon called for help!
>over and over and over again
maybe have it take up a move

>>30070174
kys changefag

Sadly, this probably would mean its complete and utter removal

Which sucks, SOS battles can be fun, it just needs tweaking

>>30071013
Neck yourself for enabling Gamefreak to do the same shit for 20

>>30070951
Cool down if a non Totem uses it. Make it that you can use an Adrenaline Orb again in battle to remove the cool down for five or ten turns

>>30069174
It's my main complaint too. 10% Beldum appearance rate and it keeps killing itself and calling for help.
>put to sleep
>wake up in 1 or 2 turns
>catch rate of 3
Fuuuuucckk

I like it. It leads to some interesting battles for sure:

>Just finished Kiawe's Trial
>Only have Lv22 Jangmo-o still alive
>Wild Magby appears
>It called for help, brings up another Magby
>Smokescreen, Smokescreen, Fire Spin, Fire Spin, Feint Attack spam
>Trying to land Rock Tomb through the Smokescreen, keep missing
>Finally faint one
>Magby calls for help again, brings up a fucking level 20 Magmar
>Finally get lucky and crit it with Dragon Tail

That could've never happened if this feature was gone. Sure, I could've just ran, or used a Revive on my water type but that was actually a little stressful and definitely entertaining.

>>30069246
>>30070110
>>30070174
>>30070310
>>30071013
>>30071046

Not requiring HM slaves is a GOOD thing, the outfits and saddles are ugly, but hey, safety is "required" so it's not that bad.

The Island Challenges are a nice experience, the only complaint I have with them are that they can be lame and too easy. Maybe I'm just a sucker for the puzzles of gyms. Otherwise the Totem battles are the same as Gym leader battles. They're either easy or hard depending on your team and your opponent.

>>30070521
Because Amazon score is yelp for more autistic shut ins that don't think they're as bad as a yelp reviewer.
Most 0 stars are "muh game didn't ship on time"

>>30069255
>Being forced to use that ugly piece of shit

>>30069174
Good. It's stupid bullshit and ruins the game.

>lol just use para XDD

They finally get rid of HMs so we don't need to have certain moves to travel the world. Instead we now need to have certain moves to even catch a fucking Pokemon because of shit tier gimmicks.

Eat a dick, Gamefreak.

>>30069947
The stuff that restores your PP

>>30070661
Japan loves Lillie. Just search リーリエ on Japanese Twitter and it's filled with people calling her "cute", "a real angel" or "my wife". She is only disliked by the ultra-purists on 2ch that also hated N and Higana (Higana in general is way more hated, though) and the ultrapurists say that the only reasons people forgive Lillie for stuff other characters would get hate (stealing spotlight) is that she is a cute moe girl.

>>30072219
Higana being?

>>30072219
>the only reasons people forgive Lillie for stuff other characters would get hate (stealing spotlight) is that she is a cute moe girl.
This is true.

>>30072260
Japanese name for Zinnia. N, Lillie and Lillie are what the ultrapurists think Pokemon shouldn't be about: human characters getting spotlight over the Pokemon. 2ch (the not ultrapurists) in general loves Lillie and likes N, though; the only one that most hate is Higana.

>>30070642
>Getting hit by Fire Spin
>Switching out

Jeez. It's like you fag don't even know how to play.

>>30072219
Lillie was designed from the ground up to appeal to the Japanese.

>Pale skinned and blonde haired.
>Loli
>Grumpy face
>Extremely polite
>Innocent and pure hearted
>Sometimes says or does goofy things
>Needs you to be her hero
>Stuck up under you from the start of the game
>Fairly obvious implications of romantic interest, especially in a Japanese context

>>30072316
>N, Zinnia and Lillie*

>>30069174
I agree that it's annoying but I respect the fact that even wild pokemon don't just roll over and get raped anymore. Everything at least tries to put up a fight.

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>>30069174
>Hurr the game is too easy
>Waaaaa ally Pokemon is annoying
>B-but hard and annoying are not the same!!!
GameFreak made the right decision to cater the children instead of manchild

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>>30070642

>>30069174
>Stars
Next you'll be telling me Rainbow is a thing

>>30069174
I agree
>Try to catch a fucking pokemon
>They call for help
>Another clone arrives
>Can't catch them because of help
>Have to kill help
>Kill Help
>They call for help
>Another help comes
>Kill Help
>More help comes
>Eventually get to the point where I can kill help, and then catch the pokemon
>End up dreading catching them all because of the fucking help system

There needs to be a limit on how many times these pokemon can call for help.

>>30070804
It's like Sevipers and Zangoose killing each other in horde battles

How do you guys figure out that status affects the help system? Is there an npc that mentions it?

>Get a shiton of XP
>I have to actually try to catch certain pokemon

This is the good kind of difficulty, the one that gives you a challenge and stops you from having to grind.

does soundproof do anything to stop it?

>>30069174
What?
It's free EXP.

>>30069174
Japs are pussies that hate challenge. Fuck what they think.

>>30069174
Wouldn't it be funny if intimidate scared helper pokemon from coming into battle?

>>30069249
>Game is too long
>No idols
>No pay-to-play options
>Not on mobile
>No -commit suicide- option

>>30070067
>he thinks n3ds have no lag
pokemon: Frame drops

>>30072681
I know this feel.
>Second trial, Investigating the Wishiwashi.
>Battle starts, call help
>Kill help
>Does and attack and calls help
>Kill help
>repeat 6 more times
>I finally had enough, switch to rowlett for Razor leaf. It hits both targets at once, killing both at once.

>WOAH fuckin sweet a shiny Carbink
>calls for help of course
>summons Sableye
>Sableye attacks Carbink, killing it

It's OK I didn't want a shiny anyway...

>>30073246
what

which move did it use to attack carbink

>>30070030
>allow catching pokemon when there are two on screen
This one is the only true fix I think we need. Why would having 2 wild mons on screen affect pokeballs, of all things? 80% of the problems people find with this mechanic would be gone by just letting the player throw a ball freely.

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Literally my only complaint so far. I'm only 8 hours in and I've already had more fun that I ever had in X/Y.

>>30069174
I wish they'd get rid of Lillie if there's a sequel. Give Gladion the spotlight and don't force him on us like GF did with their newest waifu.

Pokemon calling for help is no way near as annoying as Lillie.

>>30073526
Fuck you. I want more Lillie. If possible. I want to play as Lillie in her Kanto adventures.

>>30069174
the Japs hate anything that resembles difficulty so I can see why

>>30069174

They should only call for help at critical health.

>>30070727
Hell, you you could take the mechanic from Go an throw it yourself if you want difficulty.

>>30069174
>the use of adrenaline orb is REQUIRED to pokemon can call for help
I fixed it!

>>30073939
Nah, too boring I like the actual ally battles makes the game feel harder. Personally, just limit the amount of times they can call for help like to 4 times each battle or create a set number of turns between each call like the pokemon can't call for help for the next 3 or 4 turns.

>>30074081
Limiting the number of reinforcements will break the utility of SOS chaining, which is still nice... when you want it

Just make it an item you can hold to stop chains like someone else suggested. The feature doesnt need to be scrapped, just toned down when all you want is capture something but they keep calling reinforcements because it doesnt even waste their turn, they can do it and heal/stall for as long as they want and that shit gets old fast

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>but you complained pokemon are too easy xD

CALLING FOR HELP ISN'T DIFFICULT, IT'S JUST OBNOXIOUS AS FUCK

GOD DAMN

>>30070661
>hating Lillie

She was the one thing that kept me going in this game

>>30069174
>Wishiwashi called for help!
>Wishiwashi called for help!
>Wishiwashi called for help!
>Wishiwashi called for help!
>Wishiwashi called for help!
>Wishiwashi called for help!
Fuck they need to fix this shit, it's so annoying.
And don't tell me use Thunder Wave, it didn't do anything to stop it from keep calling help you fucking liars.

>>30072681
How about they just let us toss a pokeball when there are two pokemon?

The Gamecube game protags weren't dumb enough to be unable to toss a ball during a double battle.

>>30069252
So do I.

>>30073013
Or made just the rarer help come

>>30069174
My only complaints are the shitty starter stats/movepools and the excess of Kantomons. Everything else is fine.

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>>30073749
Of course you do.

>>30072114
Just grow Leppa berries, I have over a hundred of the fucking things now and if I was really desperate for them I could probably bring in a good couple hundred a day.

>>30074957
Nah, limit the reinforcements, just have Adrenaline Orb take the limit away in addition to its current effect.

>>30069174
Oh no way! It's a neat feature, as annoying as it can be sometimes. They'll probably remove it in the next game like they did Hordes from X/Y. It can be annoying to keep fighting off pokemon till you get a chance to toss the Pokeball, but I think it helps from a training perspective.

>got Staryu to show up at 1%
>it summons the 1% Starmie
Cool stuff.

Didnt colosseum and XD allow you to catch a pokemon during double battle? The fuck is the problem?

>>30075976
Lore is that the snag-em machine's allowed for such, on top of their ability to steal/catch shadow pokemon. As none of the main game never gave the player a device to assist with capturing, you can't just toss a ball with more then one target.

>>30069174
sounds like the japanese need to git gud

>>30071287
>smokescreen spam
>entertaining

That may be true for you, but not everyone is a masochist.

>>30076080
put game design-wise there's no reason they can't do it again, and I can't see any reason to impose that limitation. it's "harder" only by adding tedium

>>30071340
>puzzles
If the trials had better puzzles they would be really good. But as it stands, they take all of 10 minutes and there's only ~3 pathetic fights with the unevolved form of the totem Pokemon before hand. It's hardly more challenging than gym fights. The inability to leave the trial room is kinda wasted potential.

>>30076080
>Humans in the pokemon universe really need a weird arm gadget to assist them with catching pokemon when there is more than one to deal with.

>>30069174
All you have to do is let you catch pokemon when more than one is there.

>>30069174
Yeah, its annoying as fuck when you just want to finish a battle, but I don't want it gone completely. Just have less pokemon be able to do it. Like Cubone, what the fuck is that about?

>>30069174
I still miss Dexnav.

>>30076880
we're going to miss the dexnav for a very long time