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It's an undisputed fact that the quality of a Pokemon is

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It's an undisputed fact that the quality of a Pokemon is determined by it's stat distribution, it's ability, it's movepool and it's overall battle viability. How a Pokemon looks is ultimately irrelevant, because if it succeeds in all other aspects it is far more likely to endear itself to people than if it's just got a poor design

A clear example of this is Bewear. There was a vocal majority of people hating it and Stuffle because of how they looked, and yet the moment it was shown to not be hot garbage, people quickly began changing their minds.

In inverse, the starter trio is an example of how quickly people turn on Pokemon that can't carry their own weight. Before learning their stats there were non stop threads for them, now they're gone. No one cares in the least.

Please, post examples of yourself 180ing on a Pokemon because it's design was shit but it was great at everything else, or because it's design was great but shit at everything else
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Most people can agree the best pokemon are a combination of both, so it doesn't really matter.

Usually Pokemon, at least in the context of the main PvE experience, can pull their weight.
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I originally loved Vikavolt, but then I learned that it is literally slower than a tortoise. So now I don't care for it.
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>>30049467
PvE makes up at most only a small percentage of a Person's Pokemon experience, and therefore the value of being worth something in PvE is infinitely smaller than being worth something in PvP.
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>>30049476
this
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>>30049476
>>30049555
Don't forget it's a Specially Invested Mon with a 70% Physical move list.

Bad Speed, Bad Movepool, and in hindsight, a bad ability because it'd take Neutral Damage from Ground Types anyway and with it's bulk it can handle it, but they could have given it an ability to make up for it's poor speed.

It's just an entirely awfully balanced Pokemon
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>>30049353
But i loved cute cuddly pink bear from the start:o.
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>>30049644
Yes, but a lot of people didn't who are quickly changing their minds
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>Incineroar and midnight Lycanroc end up not being very good stat wise
>Still love them enough to use them
I'm glad I don't have autism for MUH COMPETITIVE VALIDATION.
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>>30049726
Actually, Incineroar might see a niche in VGC with good bulk, decent typing, and Intimidate.
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>>30049353
People still hate the genies.
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>>30049726
That's because you're a furry.
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>>30049920
>Stating a fact that applies to practically everyone on this board
Wew lad
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>>30049726
Funny thing is people are having issues figuring out what to do with day dog since there are better options while night has its no guard edges thing going for it.
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>>30049504
>more people battle their friends more than they actually play the game

just wanted to post
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>>30050494
Sundog's issue is that it's movepool is currently too thin.

The moment it gains access to Movetutors Moondog will have nothing on it.
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>>30049726
>>30050494

I have found Midnight Lycanroc insanely useful in the game. I feel like over half the trainers and totems seem to have a weakness towards Rock. He's got decent defense, some decent moves. I love using him honestly.

I've had him almost equally leveled with my starter. If he had one more good offensive move that I can come across, he'll be my ace in PVE.
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>>30051013
The source is reality dipshit.

Things that are better are naturally liked more than things that are worse.

Do you think cavemen kept using a Square Wheel instead of a round one because "I used the Square one first, it was my bro I don't care if it's less useful. Round wheels are for tryhards"
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>>30051035
You have fuckawful taste for liking that deviantart furry piece of trash
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>>30050947
>Elementa/drain punch
>iron tail
>cross chop

Don't let bias cloud good judgement...
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>>30051066

Hey, I am not fond of "Sonic's Friend" design either, but it has a lot of personality.
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>>30049353

Heatran.

it's OU, but it's so fucking stupid. it looks like someone dropped a bucket on a sweetcorn-stuffed shit, it's got boring-ass lore, it's the only legendary who can be either gender, and does literally nothing with that fact. it looks shit, it feels shit, and it's design is shit.

I've never used one.
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>>30051066
atleast that anon gave it a shot instead of following the edg/furry bandwagon
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>>30049504

I can manage 700+ hours on a decent game, and that's usually entirely PvE. even when it's PvP, it's never competitive.
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>>30051060
>Do you think cavemen kept using a Square Wheel instead of a round one because "I used the Square one first, it was my bro I don't care if it's less useful. Round wheels are for tryhards"
Perfect, anon. Perfect.
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Was a big fan of Lycanroc Midday, but now that we know how lacking its movepool is, it has fallen from grace. Still cool though
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>>30051060

> Do you think cavemen kept using a Square Wheel instead of a round one because "I used the Square one first, it was my bro I don't care if it's less useful. Round wheels are for tryhards"

ah yes, wheels, often used for fun and entertainment, rarely for practical things...

it's a dumb equivalency you dipshit.
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>>30049476
Same. I'm considering dropping Grubbin for goddamn Cutiefly. What's wrong with me?>>30049476
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>>30051246
cutiefly is a qt and I hate nearly all big mon
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>>30049353

>It's an undisputed fact

>thread full of people disputing it
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>>30051246
Cutiefly has Quiver Dance, so that's a big plus.
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>>30051361
People deny that the Earth is round to this day.

You'll always have retards who deny reality and replace it for their own.

Like the idiots who believe Decidueye is OU material
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>>30049353
This isnt always the case for me, but your logic is sound
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>>30052106
>People deny that the Earth is round to this day.
I'm sure they're being satirical
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