Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 3: GOOD ROTOMORNING, I AM THE ROTOM ZUKAN, ROTO! & 4: ENTER MOKUROH! I GOT A POKÉMON IN ALOLA!! (NOVEMBER 24TH)
>Satoshi and Pikachu's new partner, the Rotom Zukan, makes its debut! And Satoshi gets his first Pokémon in the Alola region!?
>Also, the new data broadcast system starts, and we have extravagant prizes as well
>And Abareru-kun appears too

>Summary:
>"Good Rotomorning, I am the Rotom Zukan, Roto!"
>Satoshi receives a new Pokémon Zukan from Professor Kukui. Incredibly enough, this Pokémon Zukan is an amazing Pokémon Zukan that can speak human language, called the "Rotom Zukan". Satoshi and Pikachu immediately go to the forest with the Rotom Zukan. Meanwhile, the evil organization known as the Rocket Gang arrives in the Alola region on orders from their boss Sakaki, and...?

>"Enter Mokuroh! I Got a Pokémon in Alola!!"
>One day, Satoshi meets a hungry Mokuroh, a Grass Quill Pokémon. In an attempt to get it, Satoshi and the others chase after it into the forest. But the forest contains the habitat of the Woodpecker Pokémon Tsutsukera! Satoshi and the others watch Mokuroh and the Tsutsukera with great interest, but then the Rocket Gang show up!

>Data Broadcast:
>The "Pocket Monsters Sun & Moon" data broadcast is filled with features, like "PokéProblems"; quiz questions related to the episode, and "PokéMeter", which shows QR codes you can read with the "Pokémon Sun/Moon" video games! Push the d-button on your remote while the show is airing.
>"PokéMeter":
>If you fill the meter all the way while the show is airing, a special QR code will be displayed. Read this special QR code and register it in the zukan in the video game "Pocket Monsters Sun/Moon"!
>"PokéProblems":
>Answer 4 quiz questions by using the colored buttons on your remote. If you get a question right, you'll get 3 points, but even if you get it wrong, you'll still get 1 point. If you get at least 10 points total, you get the chance to win a prize!

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Daisuke Namikawa: Rotom Zukan
>Kei Shindo: Lilie
>Kaito Ishikawa: Kaki
>Reina Ueda: Mao
>Hitomi Kikuchi: Suiren
>Fumiko Takekuma: Māmane
>Keiichi Nakagawa: Professor Kukui
>Unsho Ishizuka: Principal Okido
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kenta Miyake: Sakaki
>Risa Shimizu: Joy
>Rikako Aikawa: Ashimari
>Mika Kanai: Togedemaru
>Chika Fujimura: Amakaji
>Chinami Nishimura: Nyabby
>Abareru-kun: Anime Cheerleading Chief

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 59 (Nov 18th)
>Comedians Perform Skits To Commemmorate the Release of the New Games, and So Does Abareru-kun!? / Everyone Dance to the "Pokénd Song"!

SM5 - Popplio, Do Your Balloonest! (Dec 1st)

SM6 - Togedemaru: Prickling and Tingling! (Dec 8th)

POKEMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT COLLECTION VOL 2:
https://my.mixtape.moe/buzdoe.zip

ALOLA!:
https://mega.nz/#!ABsWQTbY!d1ILUTYt2IyO6hW97_Jk8YY9BVuvEdrHAu8J2uMwYR0

VOLCANION & THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA
1: http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
2: http://imgur.com/a/cGC71
3: http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1

Also the first and second episode with non-crap subs are out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE580E81oeI

is liking the SM anime just a meme? Because those two first episode were just shit, literally nothing of substance, just random, pointless crap like balloon popping. Compared to the first two XY episodes, this was a disaster.

>>30033576
It's the overrated PokeAni factor, Anon, this fandom eats shit as long as it's new no matter what the case is. Any and every time (and I do mean, any & every time) a new Series of the Anime debuts, people laud Pokemon for how new the Anime Series is, not how good it is, and bash the prior Series mercilessly and mindlessly.

Watch, in 10-12 episodes, SM Anime will be confirmed to be shit. BTW, I agree with your assessment, but that's just me.

>>30033576
I think so yes, no idea why people are pretending to like this bullshit.

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What was with all the Lana lewds last night?

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>

Why do people think this is OK?

>>30033576
I think it's more that it's better than expected. A lot of the trailers/magazine previews looked shit, so it was pretty good considering what I personally expected.

Also OP/ED themes are comfy.

>>30033646
It was a great night.

>>30033576
It's shit and people wont accept how shit it is because they know they're too invested in this show to drop it.

>all these commercials
Damn, is UK TV always like this?

>>30033654
They're stupid, that's why.

>>30033655
I do, too, but SM Anime is still pretty meh at best. Not good by any means, it's just a comedic joyride for the most part.

>>30033576
>>30033605
>>30033632
>>30033659
Still shitposting, eh?
What did I tell you about that?

>>30033671
Xyfags are still mad

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>>30033659
>It's shit and people wont accept how shit it is because they know they're too invested in this show to drop it.

>>30033666
Sometimes. BBC is better for adverts, there's none aside from promoting their own programs.

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>>30033524
There were some anons especially Lanafags who were interested in watching the french dub.

I didn't find a download link. The best thing I could find are two youtube links. I hope you don't mind it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtUC1I6G6Cg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XUPo_CUToM

Enjoy the new Delia milf voice, the french girls especially Lana and the other good voices!

Rate ep 1

I'll start
8/10

>>30033576
>Because those two first episode were just shit
Still better than BW and DP, AG first ones that were bland as shit.

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>>30033671
Fuck off, there's a lot of people who apparently agree SM Anime is shit, not just me.

>>30033576
The difference compared to the first two XY episodes is just jarring. There you really got this feeling that shit was going down, badass Ash included.

Here in Alola we have retarded Ash, both physically and mentally, popping balloons for half an episode. Jesus fucking christ.

>>30033708
>we have realistic 10 years old boy
Fixed that, you self-inserter.

>>30033685
6/10

Not bad, but Ash being an overly giddy caffeinated schoolboy, Alola Oak dropping terrible puns, and the fat fuck with his weird voice drove me nuts.

>>30033708
>that shit was going down, badass Ash included.
Are you 10? Because if you aren't, you shouldn't be watching Pokeyman animu for muh badass Ash.

>>30033684
French Ash sounds nothing like a boy. You and I both know this to be true, and I'm only one minute in- sounds like a man. At least his laugh is really realistic compared to Sarah Natochenny's awful one, though, and she doesn't sound like a boy either, I'll admit it.

This gives us a good idea of what the SM Eng dub will be like for its sneak peek, though, thanks I guess.

>>30033690
Keep telling yourself that: whatever helps you sleep better at night. I think OS, AG, DP, BW, and XY had better starter episodes than SM did, and I saw both.

>>30033685
5/10

>>30033656
Not denying it wasn't.

Xy fist were worse , team rocket stealing pikachu and garchomp..

>>30033723
The point still stands. We've gone from all that action on the top of the Prism tower in XY to popping balloons in SM.

>>30033685
5/10

>>30033742
So? You implying that SM being different from XY is bad? And it should copy it as much as possible?

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>>30033576
Reminder to disregard angry serenafag posts

>>30033737
I think "muh Pika reset" "Dawn gets beaten by Ariados" are worse than SM episodes.

>>30033684
Looks like DuArt & TPCi is leaving the OST alone for the English dub for once when it debuts based off of this- they really fucked XY-XYZ up badly, though, so I suppose it's only a matter of time before the OST gets retroactively replaced again like it was then and/or the music replacement gets greater as it goes on like with BW's dub.

The voice acting in the French dub is pretty bad, though, honestly- no as bad as the English dub, but I can tell there's a lot of miscasts in it as well already, and I have no clue how badly DuArt fucked the dialogue since I don't know French so...

>>30033770
And again team rocket

>>30033759
You don't have to be a serenafag to know the SM Anime isn't good.

>>30033770
That's your opinion, though, I can have my own as well- SM is just a lighthearted comedy so far.

Can't you simply pretend this series takes place before BW and XY? Or even before DP for that matter.

>>30033605
>>30033632
>>30033659

Still on damage control eh?

>>30033781
Team Rocket will be back to be retarded in SM Episode 3: it's only a matter of time, Anon.

Ok this nerda and monsters show was pretty funny.

So to confirm, UK is just airing the movie today right? SM 1 and 2 tomorrow?

>>30033786
>SM is just a lighthearted comedy so far.
And there is nothing bad with being lighthearted comedy.

>>30033786
>SM Anime isn't good.
>SM is a lighthearted comedy
Pick one.

>>30033793
>>30033671
>>30033677
Samefag pls.

>>30033796
Yes.

OS > AG > DP > XY

is the true canon order

disregard all other series

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>>30033807
I'm gonna give you saltminers a raise

>>30033801
There is something bad about it coming after a show that for 20 years had a character striving to be someone with a goal who failed at it time & again, now being dumbed down even further to a comedy Series, though.

>>30033805
It's both.

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>>30033685
3/10

>>30033819
>There is something bad about it coming after a show that for 20 years had a character striving to be someone with a goal who failed at it time & again, now being dumbed down even further to a comedy Series, though.
It betrayed your expectations. This does in no way make it a bad show.

>>30033816
Add Johto to it as well, OS+Johto were the true original series.

>>30033808
Heads up: TPCi replace the OST for the Volcanion Movie, but will leave it alone for the sneak peek of the 2 SM episodes, just thought you deserved to know this much for the UK users out there.

Expect the voice acting & script to be shit in the SM dub, though, that's how the Pokemon dub has been since TPCi took over & it hasn't changed.

>>30033801
there are other anime shows for that

most of us don't watch pokemon for lighthearted comedy

we want fucking action and battles

in the end though, this is the games' fault as the anime is forced to be based upon those

will just have to ride this out for three years, and hope gyms returns in the next set of games, so Ash can get going with something meaningful again

>>30033834
I know. That's why I'm watching it.

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SM was supposed to be shit

Fuck off scott

Where is my XY?

Where is Serena in the OP?

Post KISSU pls

>>30033819
>dumbed down
More like returning to his true and original personality. Also, XY was whole badass and serious, but in the end it was same shit with status quo unchanging since old days of OS.

>>30033829
I'm not saying it's bad, but to say it's good, is definitely a lie as well. It's just a fun ride at best, an unfunny comedy show with goofy faces at worst, honestly.

>>30033838
>most of US don't watch pokemon for lighthearted comedy
>WE want fucking action and battles

Say that to 100+ posters who said they liked it when it was airing. Fucking kek

>>30033838
>hope gyms returns in the next set of games
But Totems are better.

>>30033801
There is when the waifu potential and adventure feel of the show is suffering from it.

>>30033838
>we want fucking action and battles
Watch more anime please. Or grow up.

>>30033834
I've seen the French version so I know already. I just want the XYZ OP in english

>>30033849
No, OS Ash was nothing like SM Ash...he had a character with some palpable depth, even if he was a naive joker at times...he was never this dumb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXAgtpZRBGw

I agree the status quo was fucking stale as hell, don't get me wrong, I'm glad SM changed this...but it did it in the wrong way, making the Series a completely lighthearted thing only made it even more dumbed down than the "8 badges, Lose League, repeat" shit we had for 20 years.

>>30033865
>3 girls
>Ash confirmed travelling to do Island Challenge
Try harder.

>>30033838
>we want fucking action and battles
But we got 2 battles in the 2 episodes anon.

>>30033723
Not a true 10 year old at the best of his potential, Ash is like a retarded kid with low IQ in SM.

>>30033838
Like I said before, if you only want action and battles and shit like that you can watch Naruto instead.

>>30033883
they were so short you can't call them battles

>>30033885
>a true 10 year old at the best of his potential
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>30033880
Getting 5 seconds to speak each episode because of how many characters there are.

>>30033878
In comedic scenes OS Ash and SM one are the same. There weren't any dramatic moments to judge SM Ash attitude in them.

>>30033892
I guess you don't have a penis then LOL.

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>all these Buzz Killingtons for sub and dub
Damn people. It's clear people enjoy these shows for what they are, stop being killjoys and let them have fun

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>>29976675
>>29976675

Remember that 100+ posters in the live thread loved.

Backread if you want

>>30033894
>what is character-focused epsiodes

>>30033900
You have to go back.

>>30033895
I'll give you that, but SM Ash isn't as good as OS Ash was by any means, honestly.

>>30033900
+1

>>30033892
-1

How to fix SM anipoke:
Remove Mallow, Kiawe, Sophocles
Add Acerola

>>30033861
Go search for the pokemon anime on youtube, what episodes do you think has the most views?

Yeah, the awesome battles we've gotten throughout the years. Thats what people enjoy the most and remember the anime for.

>>30033851
If you hate the anime to this kind of extent, why are you even here?

Go back to >>>/a/

>>30033892
We didn't get a lot of long battles in the first episodes of the previous sagas.

>>30033913

XYfags will deny this

KEK

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>watches anime for kids
>WHAT IS THIS KIDDIE SHIT WHERE ARE MY AWESOME EPIC BATTLES WHERE IS MY SERIOUS AND BADASS ASH WHO IS SUPER STRONG AND COOL

>>30033927
I don't, but to say the SM Anime is "good" in any objective way, is not true. If you enjoy comedy, I get it, but in terms of a Series that is for everyone, it's not. I'm sorry.

>muh battles in first 2 eps
I guess Pikachu VS Sonans was greatest shit ever?
Or Piplup VS Ariadoses...or that battle agianst Snivy...

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>>30033914
It means nothing when you still have too many characters. How can SM ever beat those Dawn moments, she has like 200 episodes and there were only 3 main characters.

>>30033942
You're right, it's not for autistic manchildren like you. It's for everyone else.

>>30033930
XY 3, 5, 6, 8, 9 all had lengthy battles. Stop lying.

>mfw the CITV presents pronounces magearna as "margarna"

>>30033940
XY did it right, why accept this regressive route they took with the show?

>>30033940
Given that's what we've just gotten in XY, which was incredibly well received and probably considered the best series to date, it's completely fair to expect that to continue into the next series.

Sadly that does not seem to be the case, and it's also understandable that people are disappointed.

again huh?

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>>30033913
I missed the live thread, didn't knew you guys were having so much fun

>>30033951
You'd have to be "autistic" if you think that people can't dislike the SM Anime for valid reasons: a good show isn't just a comedy- it's one that can touch people's hearts and can have moments of seriousness outside of battles, and this isn't that.

Having a different opinion =/= you're a manchild.

>>30033966
Japan hate xy

>>30033963
>>30033966
Are there any stats or ratings that come from the actual demographic of the show, ie. Japanese children? Both for XYZ and SM.

>>30033952
>3, 5, 6, 8, 9
And how many episodes we got in SM?

>>30033949
wasn't that much pure battling, but it was continous action throughout the entire thing, which is vastly different from this balloon popping shit we got in the first two SM episodes...

>muh generic shonen

SM is better than XYZ

>>30033974
>it's one that can touch people's hearts
>manchild has his heart touched by the Pokémon anime
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

GO ON THIS IS JUST TOO FUNNY HOLY SHIT

>>30033978
They try to attract the younger audience with this SM shit, ratings wont mean anything by the way if large pools of retarded people can give feedback on it.

>>30033963
People in this fandom will accept trash if it's painted as Pokemon- I learned this a long time ago. Doesn't matter, man, I hate it as much as you, but people don't care. They're too addicted to the Series to realize it's lost it.

>>30033969
It's that time

XY = DP > AG > OS > SM > BW

Trust me, in three years from now, this is going to be what people think. SM is riding the "new series" hype train right now, but it'll sink fast once that has diminished.

>>30033952
And we just got 2 episodes in SM.
We still haven't seen episode 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, Scott.

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>>30033913
Expect them to ignore this

>>30034006
Why are you even still here then?
>spending your Saturdays ranting about a kids product tie-in anime you don't like anymore

>>30034011
Yeah yeah we've all seen you post the same shit 50 times already in 2 days. Impressive.

>>30033994
I don't, but if you think the fucking Pokemon Anime is a good show in general, you're a retard- Pokemon Anime is still shit, just comedic shit now. Ash has the depth of a 50 IQ child now in SM.

>>30033986
Popping balloons is your "Ash loses first battle".
If he genuinely lost the battle against Maru and Popplio people would be more salty than with rigged competitions.

>>30034002
Wait who do you think the intended audience was for XYZ? Adults? Teenagers? Manchildren like you?

Prove to me that any character in XY had a good personality

Protip: you can't

>>30033913
Nah, looks like most people like SM better now >>30034011

>>30034011
You're not wrong, Anon, I'm already sure that'll be the overall opinion of the fandom soon.

It's 100% as you've said.

>>30034006
They went so well with XY but then they came up with stupid shit like Serena's haircut and they wasted any real hype for the league by rushing it., it truly had the potential to be the best season.

>>30034043
Aran.

>>30034043
Alan did

>>30034011
DP > OS > XY > AG > Johto > BW > SM

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Why are people judging SM so early? It's only been two episodes and it's really too soon to pass any real judgement of the series. Sure you can like or dislike the episodes but you can't act that it represents the entire series when it hasn't even come out yet.

>>30034048
Yeah Serena ruined xy

>>30034043
Prove to me that any character in SM has any depth.

You can't. XY Anime isn't perfect by any means, I don't disagree, but SM Anime is just as flawed no matter how much you want to defend it.

>>30034020
Not Scott you retard. And we got episode titles up to SM 6, and none of those indicate there will be any major battling going on, just more of the same pointless filler shit.

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>>30033913
DELETE THIS

>>30034062
I liked the first two episodes a lot already.

Good animation, great characters, awesome region and atmosphere, a job well done on the setup of why ash is there, why he goes to school, how he gets his Z ring and learns about the dances.. now it can all begin for real.

First 2 eps rate:
OS = XY> SM > DP > AG > BW

>>30034062
Because the first two episodes usually mirror what the series will be like overall. Just look at BW, and then XY.

>>30034028
I never said the anime is good, I mean I liked it when I was 10 years old but that's it. It can be fun to watch at times, but I would never call it a good show.
SM is just better than XYZ because it doesn't pretend to be anything more than what it is, a fun show for kids.

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>>30033562
>Skyla
>Not white
What kind of bait is this?

>TTGo all next weekend.
Holy shit, I'm glad to be done with this god forsaken channel.

How the mighty have fallen

>>30034088
So you're saying SM will be awesome?

Hell yeah!

>>30034062
>Why are people judging SM so early? It's only been two episodes and it's really too soon to pass any real judgement of the series.
I know, but this is how the fandom is: some people will assume the SM dub will keep the OST since the sneak peek leaves it intact tomorrow in the UK, but anyone who's watched the dub throughout its run knows TPCi will retroactively replace it all when it reairs in order later on just like they did for XY-XYZ, you shouldn't expect any remote intelligence from them.

>>30033913
Most people doesn't bother sticking around these threads after on the rest of the week after an episode airs, expect for shitposters.

It's clearly evident there that most of people who went to watch it live liked the new series.

>>30034070
>2 footages of Mimikyu vs Pikachu and probably Rowlet
>Tomioko is the episode 5's writer but it would be a shitty filler!
Okay.

>>30033849
>More like returning to his true and original personality

Not true at all. His original personality was less autistically overzealous over a thing and more snarky and agressive.

If Ash was like his OS self, he should 've pushed Kiawe away in the battle against Skull and expecting a more serious conflict with him. Ash looks more like his BW self, but more exaggerated.

>>30034125
The Pokemon English dub is a pile of shit now regardless thanks to TPCi & DuArt putting zero effort into it, so I can see why CN dropped it and barely advertised it. Not that CN isn't shit and TTGo is also shit, but just saying.

>greatly increases the animation quality
>for a series that won't take advantage of it as it won't have much battling or action

what is the meaning of this?

>>30034134
>shitty filler!
It's Lana filler, so it's already better than tons of fillers in pokeani.

>>30034082
OS > AG > DP > XY > BW > SM if we're going off the first 2 episodes to me.

>>30034154
There is no meaning, just incompetent people ruining shit. XY also had better animation by the way.

Can't wait for these shitposters to get bored and leave /padt/ over the next few weeks so I can finally be comfy with SM.

>>30033605
>Any and every time (and I do mean, any & every time) a new Series of the Anime debuts, people laud Pokemon for how new the Anime Series is, not how good it is, and bash the prior Series mercilessly and mindlessly.
Though it's still a bit early to judge SM, I agree with this
This shit happens every fucking time

>>30034134
And waht we got in early XY.
Wobba, Fletchling, Surskit and again Wobba.

>>30034115
Then that's fine, Anon, I'm just saying.
I disagree, but I get where you're coming from.

>>30034134
it's a fucking episode about Lana and her stupid balloon popping, you seriously expect there to be a lengthy fucking battle or any other kind of action in there? get out

>>30034172
Trust me, you will get bored as well if this series continues into a comfy direction with meaningless filler episode after filler episode.

>>30034154
>as it won't have much battling or action meme
Animation is also good for expressive comedy, so it's killing two birds with one stone.

>>30034197
Not at all, comfy slice of life-ish filler episodes are the best episodes.

If I wanted to see the same formula and nothing but battles I'd watch the past 20 years of pokemon again. We had enough of that, time to mix it up.

>>30033913
AHAHAHHAHAHA

>>30034210
So you're one of those who like the mid-Johto filler era? Enjoy then, you're in for a treat with SM

Lillie, Lana and Mallow alone are so great that they already btfo any past pokemon series where at most we had 1 good girl at a time

>>30034230
>mid-Johto filler
Except we can see that SM filler will be character-focused(Lana and Sophocles eps), so it's more like comfy Bonnie/Clemont fillers than Cotd galore of Johto.

With Pokemon becoming a lighthearted comedy, should we start to compare it with other toddler shows like Anpanman, Shimajirou, Rantaro and Curious George??

Shit. Even Doraemon and Yokai Watch have a slightly more grown up comedy. Things like the balloon popping is just Anpanman-tier of baby-ish. And Ash isn't acting like a real 10 year old kid, but like a 5 years old toddler. Even D. Adv. Taichi acted more like a 10 years old kid than the 10yo Ash.

>>30034221
I rather see it go completely shounen instead of going this humor route.

>>30034261
just stick to naruto

>>30034174
I honestly agree with you, too, I was just triggered by the people shoving it down our throats how "good" the Anime suddenly is now for SM when we don't know if that's even true yet- and you're right, this shit happens, always, I fucking hate it.

>>30034257
Now THIS is real fucking shitposting.

>>30034257
Refer to >>30033866

>>30034261
>kodomo
>ever going completely shounen
AHAHAHAHAHA

>Perfect Zygarde was to be next week
God dammit CN, blundered to the very end

>>30034257
Yeah you're right, Yokai Watch is pretty mature
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wn8DwZl9Pc

>>30034250
Even mid-Johto filler could still be character focused, too, shit excuse.

>>30034230
Pretty much, you're right...sadly.

>>30034257
>And Ash isn't acting like a real 10 year old kid,
Meme, please.

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>stop enjoying things I don't like!!

>>30034288
Just let the xyzdrones rant on for a bit, they can't cope with the anime doing something else now and need to vent.

They'll leave before long.

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>>30034182
>Tomioka
>Action girl and probably backstory
>no action
>pointless

>>30033684
That Bewear bit isn't nearly as entertaining without the 'KIIIIIIIIII'ing.

>>30034264
Naruto has shit waifus, I want the show to keep waifus like Dawn, May or long hair Serena.

>>30034278
TPCi ruined the Pokemon English dub anyway, so it's not like they don't deserve blame, either. Not that I'm excusing CN's shitty treatment of it, but still, it's not something with any quality regardless.

>>30034284
>could still be
But they weren't. If they were, Johto would be better and Misty/Brock wouldn't got treated like soulless background.

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>>30034280
Not the same anon but, what the fuck did I just watch??

>>30034280
What the fuck

>>30034311
Brock wasn't shoved into the background until Sinnoh as wallpaper- he still had moments in mid- Johto like with the Temacu filler & the ones with Suzy, so that's not true.

And at least Misty wasn't obnoxiously shoved in our faces during Johto all the time (and will be in SM, too), unlike Team Rocket for the last several year, either, the Johto bashing has gotten old these days. Even Scott wouldn't go this far, and that's saying something.

>>30034210
>Not at all, comfy slice of life-ish filler episodes are the best episodes.

Then go and watch Doraemon or other unflavored show for preschoolers, you dumbass!! Pokemon is known for its battles, not for m-muh comfy SoL BS.

IIRC in Pokemon Get TV, there was a poll about what things do people want to see in the Pokemon anime (or movies, i don't remember), and the most prominent answer was... "more intense battles".

GT suffered from the same shit (and were headwritten by the same lady). Fans were tired from "the comfy black star DB quest" and demanded more action and battles after episode 21. Even DBSuper is suffering from the "battle anime stigma". That's why Goku Black and the "Goku assassination" arcs were created.

>>30034303
If Team Rocket catch it, it will be fun to see it doing its cry all the time.

>>30034341
Aya Matsui can fuck off with her Johto filler shit writing, fucking ruined SM

>>30034320
At least Johnny Yong Bosch is a better VA than Sarah Natochenny at boy characters, so that alone renders it more watchable for me dub wise.

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>>30034280

>>30034280

And the Robonyan being impalled in the ass by another yokai is childish, right?

Just admit it... SM humor is for babies who watch Bob the Constructor or the fucking Teletubbies. YW and Doraemon has a humor more suitable for elementary school kids.

Ok, Stand Tall was pretty cool. How come the pitch is higher? That some kind of UK airing thibg?

>>30034371
Even Johto filler isn't as shit as SM, it had moments of actual depth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWfTYXeWR5c&t=10m11s

>Ash wants to do Z-moves
>ahahaaha!! no battles filler johto!!1!
What did they mean by this?

Oh, the dub movie is airing.

>>30034404
>Stand Tall was pretty cool

Yeah, no, I'd rather have shit shoved in my ears before listening to the worst intro in the history of the English dub there ever again. I don't think SM's dub can possibly make an even worse intro than that for the dub, and I expect it to be shit just like XY-XYZ's dub in the long run.

Serious question for you, what other anime do you watch besides Pokémon? Not cartoons, anime.

>people liked early XY for silce of life family-like atmosphere
>now it's bad

>Volcanion is Mike Pollock
Oh this is gonna be good

>>30034425
None. Pokemon is the only one I watch.

>>30034418
How's that elevator and UFO music this fine Movie?

>>30034425

DBSuper & Tiger Mask W. I'm kinda sick of the moeshit and generic SoL harem comedy.

ARE THEY REPLACING THE SOUNDTRACK WITH DUB MUSIC IN THE VOLCANION DUB?
ANSWER ME!!

>>30034446
>I'm kinda sick of the moeshit and generic SoL harem comedy.
Have you ever watched any of that?

>>30034429
>Cathcart is James & Meowth
>Goldfarb's elevator dub music score
>Liscio Jr's Trolls 2 levels acting for Clemont
>Natochenny's wooden Ash
Fuck no, and no, Volcanion sounds nothing like Mike Pollock.

>>30034442
>>30034454
I've been watching for 4 minutes or so,so I dont know.

Is this worth watching?

>>30034454
We knew this already.

Also holy shit, all these Sonic VAs. The prince is Tails, and the main villain is shadow

>>30034454
Yes, they are, Kangarooland already confirmed this a few weeks ago.

The SM dub will have Goldfarb dub music in it too later on when TPCi reairs the episodes: the only reason they didn't shit the first 2 episodes up yet is because it's a sneak peek, Anon, same thing happened for XY.

>>30034428

However it had battles with decent lenght in almost every episode. Besides, it didn't have the "balloon popping" humor SM has.

>>30034480
I thought Jarvis (TPCi renamed him to Alva according to Kangaroo land?) was Sean Schemmel doing a forced voice.

And Amy Palant is the Prince? Jesus christ, her Tails voice was bad, but figures TPCi would cast her, no standards for voice acting as usual from them.

>>30034506
Could be on the main guy, I need to hear him more.

>>30034473
If you mean the dub, fuck no, the voice acting is horrendous across the board with Volcanion being the only exception, the dialogue is even worse, and the elevator & UFO music score make it that much worse.

Serena's dub voice makes me want to shoot myself.

>>30034551
Ash & Team Rocket's current dub voices make me want to shoot myself more than any of the others, though yeah, Serena sounds like a 30 year old woman in the dub.

Yeah fuck this dub, I'm just going to wait for the subbed version from Adamant and co.

>>30034534
No problem, go for it. Is it true the villain's name is Alva and the old man is Tesla in the dub? Kangarooland said they were, but just curious.

>>30034583
Wise choice. Rica Matsumoto has passion and emotion in her acting, unlike the deadpan chain-smoker acting of Sarah Natochenny.

I like how Magearna is basically a minicon. Also the audio seems to be shifted up. All of the voices sound really high pitched compared to what they usually are

>>30034578
>>30034506
>>30034481
Ok, this is the only time I'm giving you (You)s so listen carefully.
I'm gonna need you to shut the fuck up with your tired bullshit. Yes, I get it, you have the US dub and everything about it. However, you seem to be actively attempting to impede any enjoyment that can be had from this, and that's over the line.

>>30034594
The scientist is named "Nikola". I think it's intending to reference the real life person of the same name.

>>30034624
I'm not, I just think TPCi's dub is shit: if you like it, more power to you, enjoy, but I shouldn't have to shut up nor should the others who dislike the dub in the thread because you like it.

And that confirms the music was replaced as well since the Australian guy who watched the Movie in the theater confirmed it a while back, so no thanks, won't watch that.

>>30034624
They sound fine to me, it must be your stream. I'm watching on a TV.

niggington

>>30034672
The elevator music must be pretty epic this time around, I imagine.

>>30034684
I don't have the original soundtrack to compare it to, but standard dub shit I guess.

To whoever asked, the bad guy is called Alva

>>30034672
Probably it. I'm watching the stream through a vpn

>>30034691
Typical TPCi being cheap fucks as usual with the dub from what I gather, so I guess I'm not surprised by this.

I have to wonder why they even bothered to leave the OST alone in the first 2 SM episodes that you guys will see tomorrow, since I have a strong feeling they'll end up replacing it with dub shit when they re-air them later on & with future episodes like they did with XY.

I mean, why not replace it all at this point? They hate the Japanese score so much despite proving to have access to it time & again, so it saves them money? Maybe it costs them too much to keep it on a long term basis just like it costs them too much to hire decent voice actors and a script writer who doesn't write gibberish?

>>30034708
Yeah, it's Sean Schemmel who is voicing Alva then, in one of the most lifeless and poorly acted performances he's ever done in his career, he confirmed he was going to be dub Jarvis a while back.

Speaking of Magerna, aren't they supposed to be showing the QR code for it? I wanna get one legally

>>30033524
i thought that this series was going to change to Sun and Moon? What happened? I can't find the torrents in PMEK site. What do?

Also why are 44, 45 missing?

>>30034738
>in one of the most lifeless and poorly acted performances he's ever done in his career,

That will always and forever be Black Doom from Shadow the Hedgehog. Alva at least sounds a shitload better than that

So Ash is getting Robin Owl?

I knew he would, it's going to be the Infernape/Greninja of the SM series.

correction:
45 and 46 are not on there. And when does Sun and moon start?

Also I feel like the eps don't cont here, is XYZ Over?

I mean to ask this in my last post

>>30034767
That's hardly a standard, though: I agree, but hardly a standard.

What happened to the days of Lucario and Grings Kodai? Long gone.

>>30034777
They'll be subbed soon.

>that one autist who keeps raging on about the balloon popping

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>>30034769
Probably. I think it will be more clear when we see it's personality on Thursday.

>>30034777
XYZ is over. A few episodes are missing because pm skipped ahead to the last episode.

>>30034798
i got plenty of anime to hold me off I suppose.

Do we have an ETA at least?

>>30034813
are they that boring or something?

>ash got the Assassin Bird Pokemon
fuck yeah
That art style
Eh...

>>30034767
Aquaslash pls go

>>30034825
PM has the habit of skipping ahead when something important happens. The episodes are Ok not much to see in either. There are also two boring specials in between SM and xyz; not sure what pm will do about those.

There is sort of debate I guess of which will be the ace this season. Since Ash might get litten. But Ash always works better with faster pokemon.

>>30034893
How the fuck did you know? Did I leave my name on again?

>>30034808
When someone keeps spouting the same shit over and over you know he is a shitposter.

>>30034917
You post on Bulbapedo nigga, it's obviously you.

>>30034937
I have posted on there a grand total of maybe 5 times. You've got some excellent identification skills

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>>30034958
Thank you- I'll be here all week.

>>30033921
>Remove Sophocles
>Add Acerola
Fixed

>>30033685
7/10

>>30034997
>Remove Team Rocket permanently
>Make Ash be less retarded
>Still remove Sophocles

FTFY

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>>30033921
>Remove kiawe

>>30034898
Rowlet might be a female, if that's the case I doubt it will be Ash main pokemon this season.

>>30035029
Kiawe is one of the best characters in SM Anime, that's a shit choice: I agree with canning Team Rocket & Sophocles that the other Anons mentioned, but Kiawe? Nah.

>>30035013
Ash wasn't retarded in the first 2 episodes.

>>30035064
He won't even compare to Gladio.

Aether when?

Holy fuck, this Alva guy is an asshole

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>>30035069
Sure, he was a regular genius, in no way was Ash being stupid in SM Anime at all...not.

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>>30035030
>Male pokemon can't blush

Not saying that you are wrong though.

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When ?

>>30035091
Yeah, I heard he's one of the most unlikable villains to date.

>>30035099
>mem faces
Being excited is not the same as being a retard you idiot.

>>30034997
>remove sophocles
>remove kiawe
>remove kukui
>add acerola
>add dawn
>add cynthia

>make anime more ecchi

fixed

>>30035099
There's a difference between being genuinely retarded and acting his age.

>>30035102
Goomy was almost a baby and beta as fuck and that blush doesn't even compare with this >>30034813

>reaction faces is being retarded
I guess Mallow and Lillie are also retarted then.

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That moment when you realise that Mallows hair is a combination of the Bounsweets line hairstyles.

Does this movie remind anyone of the Lati@s movie?

>>30035136
>no Misty
>no May
So close yet so far

>>30035165
May would be nice, maybe instead of samson oak

But who needs Misty?

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>>30035163
Not really, reminds me of the Zorua Movie more than anything else, and the dub quality is worse than both Movies' dubs.

>>30035142
>>30035132
Doesn't mean Ash hasn't regressed from XY in SM.

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>>30035154
They are different artstyles and sm emphasizes on exaggerated expressions.

>>30035182
>But who needs Misty?
My penis does

>>30033576
Oh will all of you just fuck off already, the SM anime is already better than all of the other garbage solely because of it's fresh new artstyle.

>>30035163
Are you watching the volcanion movie on UK TV?
How long until SM premiers there?

>>30035198
The exaggerated expressions are going to get old pretty quickly for SM Anime, honestly, I can't see the fans not eventually getting tired of it sooner or later.

>>30035209
Yes.
SM airs tomorrow here, 12am. I'll upload it if I figure out a good way to get it from ITV Hub.

>>30035196
That means his personality changed back to what he is supposed be, a 10 yo, and not that his brain cells died.

>>30035225
Oh I see, German TV airs SM tomorrow at 1pm local time too

>>30035209
It's tomorrow according to our friendos in the UK. TPCi fucked the OST up for the 19th Movie, but left it alone for the 2 episode sneak peek of Season 20 for now. We know this thanks to Australia fans for the Movie & French ones for the latter case, so thank them.

>>30035227
A 10 year old can have some remote intelligence too, without losing their fun loving side: OS Ash was a perfect example of this. He could be snarky and witty, but also a prankster and funny- SM Ash is just the latter so far.

>This situational version of Be A Hero
God damn, that song is almost as cucked as Zygarde is

>>30035259
At least Be A Hero is a less shit dub intro than Stand Tall is, even though both were trash.

So from what I can tell - ITV hub replays the episode in segments (Segments being episode parts, and segment for each advert.)

We'll see.

>>30035225
Please do upload it: TPCi's dub has terrible acting & dialogue (as well as intros), but it's less garbage with the OST intact, and I can see them rehiring Goldfarb on board for the SM Series dub proper later on, so this and the Dec 5 airing in the US will be the only times we'll probably get the Miyazaki score unaltered for a while.

>>30035256
Yeah but Ash didn't do anything outright retarded in the series and not making a bunch of silly faces doesn't make him stupid.

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>>30035306
>Inciting a raid

Mods just ban Scott already

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>>30035306
Fuck off, Scott. You only make Misty even more relevant by dredging her up all the time when no one else here is.

>>30035306
Fuck off

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More clarifaction/rambling forthose interested in the dub - I have a very old TV, so I can't record directly from it. The ITV Hub doesn't support downloading, and it works in a way that I can't figure out how to download it using the download manager extension I have (see pic)

Recording it from the ITV Hub could work, but my internet is meh so it wouldn't be the best quality.

I'm all for Pokemon returning to a focus on comedy, but SM hasn't been pulling it off all that well so far. Ash is too much of a kid, he wasn't like this in the original series at all. They need to be aware of and at least attempt to please their adult audience too like the original series did.

>>30035306
The website seem to be nearly dead and don't have many activities since a while except for that raid faggot (I assume it is you).
Fuck off Scott.

>>30034745
The episode aired two days ago, subs aren't out yet.
And 45 and 46 haven't been subbed yet.

Soon.

>>30035359
I'm adult and I enjoy SM greatly so far.

>>30035356
Fuck the hell off already

>>30035356
It's okay, man, anything is better than nothing, and we appreciate the effort you're putting into uploading it for those who want to see- I hate the current dub, and even I respect you for it- that, and you'll probably be giving dubfags the only taste of the OST they'll get for the remainder of SM knowing TPCi's love of Ed Goldfarb.

>>30035359
>that's all Zygarde gets
Cuck of the century!

>>30035383
People wanted to see the dub, and I'm trying to work out a way to give people it if they can't watch the ITV stream. You fuck off.
>>30035384
Alright, I'll try and just record the episode when it's streaming. I'll also check if I can record off my TV, but it's not likely.

>>30035383
I personally hate the TPCi dub and what it's become as much as the next person, but don't you think the dub fans deserve to enjoy it before they go back to their evil ways with the OST, editing & script later on?

>>30035359
> adult audience
> during the original series

Anon, 99% of the fanbase was made up of kids back then.

Reminder that the French dub was actually good and Lillie sounded super cute

>>30035380
You say that like it's something to be proud of lol.

>>30035359
I agree, Scott: I honestly agree here. You can have comedy without sacrificing characterization, but SM is not doing that.

Why don't they just have the water pokemon power up volcanion?

>>30035437
>lol

>>30035435
>French dub
>Good
>Manly Ash
>He's supposed to be 10 years old
>Does not fit at all

Nope, not even remotely true.

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>>30035435
France is Lillie's territory now

>>30035454
>pretending Rica's Ash sounds anything like a 10 year old

>>30035452
Fine, fuck off, just saying SM Anime isn't exactly great shit.

>>30035466
SM is the most fun start yet

>>30035465
Yes, Rica's Satoshi sounds like a 10 year old boy. She is well renowned for her performance across the globe.

Ash's French VA is a literally who who makes a boy sound like a man. No comparison. I mean, his voice & laugh are less shit than Sarah Natochenny's, but that's about all he has going for him.

>>30035437
>agreeing with scott
>lol
You sound like massive faggot.

>>30035484
Have you heard 10 year old boys?
Do they sound anything like Rica's Ash?

No.

>>30035480
Fun =/= Good, though.
>>30035406

>>30035491
Scott has some good points occasionally: not everything he says is shit all the time.

>>30035495
I have heard 10 year old boys, I was a 10 year old boy, and I know for a fact Rica does sound like one. I know Ash's French VA sounds nothing like one and sounds like me when I'm age 24.

>>30034898
>PM has the habit of skipping ahead when something important happens. The episodes are Ok not much to see in either. There are also two boring specials in between SM and xyz; not sure what pm will do about those.

Sushi is doing the remaining four XY&Z episodes in order while Adamant is doing SM

>>30035502
I disagree. Fun = good. Fun is the summary of all other aspects coming together.

SM has great characters minus Sophocles, great atmosphere and region, great animation, great comfy levels, great sexy girls. And Z moves are fucking awesome.

Magearna a cute.

>>30035525
If fun automatically equals good, then I say OS and AG put the rest of the Anime to complete shit since that's when I think it was "fun" to watch.

And that's your opinion, but you have yet to back up any of that. Sexiness does not denote quality, nor does comfy levels, nor does the region itself.

>this fucking thread

Early XY was not like this

>>30035549
Sure it does.
Quality girls add a lot to a pokémon series.

And this time we get three of them. That's a big bonus.

>casually calling Pikachu Electric nuisance
LOL

>>30033685
7/10

Jap ending > this ending

Not as bad as I expected, though.

>Announcers say SM is next
Wait what? Did I hear that right?

>>30033685
Why are we only rating ep 1 and not ep 1 + ep 2?

>>30035591
No, it's tomorrow.

>>30035600
Ok just making sure

Also that guitar solo was pretty slick

>>30035585
Volcanion Movie dub is shit confirmed, apparently.

>>30035591
If so, please record it and post a link here, I want to do a comparison Dogasu style to see how badly the SM dub script changes are done (if they are since they tend not to go full retard till after the first 2 eps) outside of the OST being left alone for the sneak peek.

>>30035595
Ep 1:

5/10

Ep 2:

6/10

>>30035606
You tease.

>>30035608
It wasn't great.
>>30035608
No, it's tomorrow. I dont have a set top box, so I can't record it from my TV, but I'll see about ripping it from the ITV Hub website.

>In memory of Eric Medalle
Wait, who?

>>30035566
Whatever you say, friend, believe what you want- can't stop you.

>>30035626
TPCi staff member who was their creative design director for a while before he passed away after an accident.

What a shitty product to dedicate to the guy, but that's TPCi for you, I suppose.


>>30035623
Not surprised, dub has been shit for years now, so I expecting nothing else, and thanks, looking forward to see what shit Cathcart comes up with.

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Just got back from the Volcanion Movie, and I have to say, the dub was awesome

>>30035674
>What a shitty product to dedicate to the guy, but that's TPCi for you, I suppose.

>shitting on a memorial
Come the fuck on man, have some class

>>30035682
Fuck off, the Volcanion Movie dub was trash and we all know it.

>>30035682
Were you watching the stream? Is it just really lagging behind? It finished a while ago.

>>30035690
I did if you read that properly: in fact, I feel bad for the man, but he deserved something better dedicated to his passing than such a poorly done dub with all that elevator music replacement.

>>30035691
Well, at least I liked it. But I grew up with Sarah Natochenny and TPCi's dub so I can't blame it

>>30035682
>watching the dub

>>30035709
You need to leave

>>30035711
I only listen to the dub put on top of the original footage

>>30035709
Sarah Natochenny is not a good Ash & TPCi's dub is really bad for a lot of reasons, but I can respect that you have nostalgia for it, so I'm not upset with you, sorry about that.

>>30035716
Why should they leave? I think TPCi's dub is absolute irremediable shit on all fronts, but that doesn't make the poor kids who grew up with it bad by any means- let him like it if he grew up with it, we can't change that.

>>30035725
No I understand where you're going with it. Her voice is a lot different, some of the voices don't match at all, they change the music and more. So I understand
>>30035701
Yes it was really laggy

>>30035701
The stream did seem to be lagging behind the actual network. The times were a bit off.

>>30035706
>implying they believe their work is sub par
>implying the dedication wasn't heartfelt from their end
Their dubbing practices are completely irrelevant to this instance. They felt enough to give him SOMETHING and that mushc should be respected

Shit man, this is an all time low, even for you

>>30035737
However, I've watched the orginal and AG series as well, and after watching it, I decided that Sarah is better than Veronica in my opinion. It probably is just nostalgia

>>30035737
You're on the right track with my issues with it, but the Team Rocket dialogue is also absolutely horrendous in TPCi's dub, too, I just...cannot understand a single word of it, and I don't know how you kids have to suffer through that nonsense all through DP & XY trying to understand what any of it meant other than tuning them out.

>>30035759
I have the right to voice an opinion, and if you don't like it, deal with it: I'm in no way criticizing Medalle (as I've said before, it's sad he passed away in an accident) and I was sticking up for the kid who liked the dub in the thread too- can I emphasize the point I do NOT like the dub myself and I have the RIGHT to dislike it for several reasons.

Fuck, man, I'm not even doing the >watching the dub meme like other people do, get off my case.

>>30035769
I preferred Veronica over Sarah regarding the dub, honestly, and I don't see how you kids like the latter, but I guess you feel nostalgic for it, so I won't fault you for it.

>>30035773
We just like it, that's how we get through it. James has a great "I'm dumb" voice, Jessie sounds too worked up all the time and Meowth sounds like he wants to be a New yorker

Is the new show good? I thought XY was kind of boring with its characters (couldn't being myself to care about boring Ash, Serena, or Citron). Is this any better?

>>30035837
It's different. So you should watch a few episodes of it at least to see for yourself. No one can tell whether you will enjoy it or not. I did so far.

>>30035834
I meant the words they say, specifically, not their voices (though I disagree vehemently on that, but again, I get it). The "Pilfering Pokemon while walking through the fiendish forest..." type stuff...

>>30035852
I suppose that's true. Thanks! I have high hopes actually because from the trailers the characters look fun.

>>30035859
>. The "Pilfering Pokemon while walking through the fiendish forest..." type stuff...
ahh I see.

>it's a dubsperg and the newfag band thread

>>30035876
Yeah, I feel bad for you kids having to deal with Team Rocket talking like that, it's hard to understand a word they say like that.

You kids deserve better, but at least it seems you're content with what you have, so I'm glad for you there.

>>30035887
Fuck off, le-ebin dubsperg returns shitposter.

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>>30035356
From what little I know of download managers, I don't think you can save a stream because it's an ongoing broadcast, as opposed to a completed video which is what these extensions target

I'm 100% certain it'll end up on youtube within the day though. At least if the french things are anything to go by

>>30035807
The problem is not that you dislike the dub, thqa's eprfectly fine and you have the right to voice that opinion. It's the fact that you had the nerve to use a god damn memorial as a springboard to launch into your hate rants. THAT is absolutely disgusting. Have some god damn class.

That's gonna be my last post on it, I'm sure the thread is getting sick of me raging by now

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Also, for anyone who missed it, it's on their ondemand now so go watch it!

>>30035931
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

>>30035953
Oh snap, do you need to be in the UK to watch that? I just shut off my VPN

Which are the non shit subs for the first episode?