Let's reminisce one more time. Talonflame can get fucked

Hating a pokemon just because its good? Maybe you should get better, the only difference between legendaries and any other pokemon is words

>>29974368
I thought it was the combination of high base stats and rarity

>>29974346
Damn that's not even the image I was looking for.

Anyone have that one collage when people were joking about Fletching's description before we know how ridiculous it was.

>>29974368
STAB 120 base power with priority is absurd and you know it, it made bug, grass and fighting types near impossible to use. Gen 6 Gale Wings is undefendable.

>>29974368
...someone is salty they can't abuse priority anymore.

What's this about "Getting gud" when you just do the same trick over and over again? Boring unskilled one trick pony.

>defend this guy

go away

>>29974346
To be honest? Same.
It was so refreshing to see a Route 1 shitmon actually have that kind of staying power.

I mean, it's still got 126 Speed, so it's not a complete waste of space, but it's gonna be abandoned en masse for the newest gimmick regardless. Kind of sad.

>>29974426
Even with the nerf it's still usable, just not top tier good.

>>29974408
>it made bug, grass and fighting types near impossible to use.
hmm yes, must be why Lopunny, Medicham, Scizor, Ferrothorn, Serperior, Venusaur and Breloom were fucking everywhere

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>>29974442
Welcome to the age of Defog Wars.

Something something Pelliper.

>>29974426
>refreshing
>as if Staraptor never happened
Underaged get OUT

>>29974452
That's only because they were that good Anon, that's pretty measly

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Rest in peace

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>>29974484
Was Staraptor viable for the whole gen, though? It feels like it was only used early on, before move tutors.

But I wasn't into competitive then, so whatever.

F

>>29974452
>implying Venusaur could tank hits from Talonflame

>>29974754
Intimidate made it popular until Talonflame replaced it. It's weaker than Braviary, but it's speed make it useful for hit and run for multi-nerfs.

>>29974346

I've just broken my 6 month long no /vp/ hiatus, what happened to bravest bird?

>>29977233
Gale Wings only works at full health.

>>29977275
Ah, I see. Thats interesting. I wonder how people would have taken to it if it had originally been that way in XY.

I saw the no Prankster vs Dark types too, is there anywhere to see a list of mechanical changes like that or are people still finding things out?

>>29974778
this guy doesn't know reckless

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>>29977321
Smogon has all of the changes found so far in the Sun/Moon section, and they apparently found the Prankster change today.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/sun-and-moon.374/

To the left is a list of all the old mons that were buffed or changed by abilities and stats, I believe.

>>29977357
Thanks anon, appreciated

I'm more happy M-Kangaskhan got gutted. That guy was freelo for way too long.

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>>29977357
Huh, Pelliper, Torkoal and Gigalith are some pokemon I always really liked that had not much going for them competitively, nice to see them thrown a bone

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>>29974346
>Love the designm based on my favorite bird but ON FIRE
>"Talonfalme is cool, Gale Wings looks neat"
>Flash forward a few months into XY
>Rotom and Talonflame on every team
>Expose someone to the meta long enough and they too shall learn to hate.
>"Confound that Talonflame!"
>Fastforward to now
>Its all in ruins

You will be missed.

>>29977357
>Ledian STILL gets ignored