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>Dark Void nerfed to 50% accuracy Think Darkrai will drop

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>Dark Void nerfed to 50% accuracy

Think Darkrai will drop down to OU? Or would he still be considered too good? He's still able to easily get off a Nasty Plot on top of one of being in one of the best speed tiers plus decent bulk.
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>>29963566

50% is really bad news for a Pokemon as frail as Darkrai.
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That speed and special attack is still too good for OU, there aren't a ton of things that resist and can take its STAB Dark Pulse. It'll just end up being in the Reshiram and Deoxys-N tier of mons too good for OU but ass in Ubers
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>>29963566
Nah, it'll get bumped up to BL0.
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It will most likely stay where it is. Despite the nerf, it's still incredibly dangerous due to its speed and power. BL0 is a neat idea, but not likely.

And for those that like memes, it can still learn Hypnosis.
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>>29963566
I hope so. If Aegislash is coming back we need something to shit on its parade.
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>>29963795
Oh right ye.
I guess it'll just pick up hypnosis and be a little less of an Ubers mainstay.
Having higher speed than arceus will keep carrying him regardless I guess.
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>>29963624
Is it really that frail? I guess against pokemon that it's weak to.
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>>29963566
>70/90/90 bulk which makes it survive quite a few hits
>sanic 125 Speed
>a bunch of utility options that mess checks and counters up besides the nerfed sleep attacks
>neutral hard hitting STAB off of 135 SpA

I mean he's basically a terrible choice in Ubers now, but I doubt he'll reside long enough in Ou before everybody starts getting sick of it
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>>29963876
It's frail relative to most other ubers having either HP or Special in the 100+ range.
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>>29963876
It's not frail, actually, compared to other OU fast offensive mons. It was sort of a bitch to take down early XY if your revenge killers were down
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>>29963876
Even Keldeo is bulkier than Darkrai
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>>29963566
Dark Void will still have application in doubles, but in singles it's better off using hypnosis now which blows.
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>>29963878
>70/90/90 bulk which makes it survive quite a few hits
What am I reading? 70/90/90 is only a tiny bit better than Mega Medicham (60/85/85). It's not surviving anything with that.
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>>29963566
60% would've been enough
smeargle will just run lovely kiss now which is 75%
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Smogon will probably unban it for a while, but I don't see it sticking around. A simple set of Nasty Plot / Dark Pulse / Focus Blast / Sludge Bomb will singlehandedly shit on every balance team lacking Chansey while still being perfectly servicable against offense thanks to its base 125 speed.
People could compare it to Weavile and claim it's not that much better, but the problem with Darkrai (as well as Greninja) is that OU is forced to overprepare for a huge number of physical threats while most specially defensive Pokemon are Psychics, Fairies and Steels, which conveniently all get murdered by its coverage. For reference M-Scizor walls Weavile to oblivion, but can't switch into Darkrai at all.
>252 Atk Life Orb Weavile Low Kick (100 BP) vs. 248 HP / 16+ Def Mega Scizor: 90-107 (26.2 - 31.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
>+2 252 SpA Life Orb Darkrai Dark Pulse vs. 248 HP / 200 SpD Mega Scizor: 289-341 (84.2 - 99.4%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
>44 Atk Technician Mega Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Darkrai: 103-123 (36.6 - 43.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
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>>29963908
It's well established at this point the Swords of Justice have good defenses for being fast attackers, though.

>>29963980
Except Mega Medicham has to survive on a measly 100 Speed to get by and it's easily revenge killed, hence why it's commonly revenge killed by so many things. Darkrai can actually bear to live a some attacks, resists Sucker Punch, and messes up normal checks thanks to its utility moves and speed.

I'm not selling its defenses like 1940's caramel, but it's at least durable and speedy *enough* that it doesn't see itself killed so much like Medicham.
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>>29963980
It's definitely decent for an offensive pokémon. It can at least take one neutral STAB from something that doesn't hit like a nuke (Crawdaunt, LO base 130+ high bp moves etc), and can safely switch into resisted hits, which is not something every offensive pokémon can say. Dark is also an okay -not good, but alright- defensive typing, unlike shit like pure psychic or normal
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>>29963566
Darkrai gets fucked up by Tapu Koko, too. The Tapu really screw him over.
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>slap Specs on it
>destroy everything
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>>29964227
sludge bomb
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>>29964025
Lovely Kiss is nowhere near as bad as Dark Void though, that shit was hell in doubles
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>>29964227
Except for Tapu Koko who's faster, Darkrai is basically guaranteed to carry Sludge Bomb for every Fairy in its way.
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>>29964299
online PBR flashbacks intensifies
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>>29963624
>70/90/90
>Frail
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>>29964326
Make it stop, Dark Void getting nerfed is the best thing GF has ever done. Having Smeargle not being able to get it anymore is redundant but I'm glad they did it.
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>>29964285
130 speed
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>>29964369
Ok, so Tapu Koko can revenge kill Darkrai but can't risk switching in directly. A lot of pokemon fall into that category.
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>being a mindless brainwashed smogon sheep

What's wrong? Can't think for yourselves? Need to be told what Pokemon/moves you can/can't use? Fucking kill yourselves.
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>>29963735
>BL0
...So it's staying in Ubers. Because that's what Ubers is.
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NU hopefully in the trash where it belongs
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>>29963702
pheromosa is coming in as the third fastest pokemon, with dual 137 attacks
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>>29963566

No, its stats are still too absurd for OU.
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>>29965924
This bait is very low quality. You should be ashamed.
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>>29963566
Is this a hypothetical thread? Or is this like Gengar where Gamefreak doesn't understand the game?
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>>29968134
It happened. And also Smeargle can't use it anymore.
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>>29968196
Wow. I bet Mega Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza is still a-OK though.
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>>29965924
It's not like we can use Darkrai at all in VGC.
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its staying uber lol is this a serious question it doesn't need to run dark void to be good
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