>Trash game Just admit it /vp/ this game is amazing and will

All the "7.8 too much trials" memers..

BTFO
T
F
O

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>>29927472
FUCKING APOLOGIZE

Ha get fucked just beat the game yesterday and loved it

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Shitposters, it's over.

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>>29927511
>>29927506

>>29927472
the EA effect

>>29927534
DENIAL

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>>29927472
YES !

>>29927534
D A M A G E D

>assuming /vp/ is one person

I always liked the looks of it, just the vocal minority and /v/ kept spamming us calling us shills whenever we tried to defend it.

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>>29927472
It's fucking over, you mouthbreathers.

>>29927556
where do I assume it's one person, I'm addressing /vp/ as a whole

>>29927556
Indeed.
Still, better wait for the game to launch before rushing to any conclusion.
You are the best name fag, Mr. President.

>the shitposters on /v/ are so distraught they can't even reply
>>>/v/357761191

Wow, we fucking win bros.

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>>29927472
Let's celebrate, have a Fini.

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>>29927472
(you)

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BLOWN OUT OF THE FUCKING STRATOSPHERE

>>29927621
SuMo confirmed better than remakes

>>29927472
The frame rate alone would ruin the score of any other game.

IGN also gave XY a 9/10 despite being the most barebones games in the series.

Either way, who the fuck cares? If you need validation from a website known for paid reviews, then you're an absolute retard.

>>29927618
Well shit. Can't trust IGN because they gave this POS a 9.

>>29927618
X&Y wasn't bad tho...

This generation really has been a BTFO-fest.

>>29927618
>>29927638
>>29927647
>they don't know the difference between 2013 IGN and 2016 IGN
Seriously look it up.

IGN buckled down and are giving everything significantly lower scores.

>>29927621
Understandable, the Johto region is literally one of the worst generations out of all the Pokemon games.

>>29927657
It was bad for the standard that BW and BW2 set.

This is the problem with those "professional reviews". They'll NEVER compare the game with a previous release.

>>29927681
Everything that isn't a sacred cow franchise?

>>29927534
>EA effect
What the fuck is this? That when they were "good" they hyped up games and got critically panned? Even people who got it early liked it. Stay mad that the vocal minority will always be in the minority on the net

>>29927657
User reviews on meta score was 8.4

>>29927657
It was a snooze fest from start to finish sun and moon did what x and y did not that's change things up and have a story people are actually interested in

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>>29927579
I should have worded it differently, but from your post, it made it seem like almost everyone on /vp/ hated it.

>>29927590
Gud

>reviews meaning fucking anything

reminder that they are opinion pieces and not fact
and usually shit opinions at that

>>29927712
I liked the story tho...

>>29927712
But everyone is saying it's the best pokemon story

>>29927696
Forgot to mention, IGN doesn' menton the insane FPS drops a SINGLE TIME. These are frequent enough that any moron, fan or not, should be annoyed by them.

But hey, we're being validated! Fuck facts!

>>29927696
>Everything that isn't a sacred cow franchise?
They gave the new CoD a 7.7

That's literally unheard of from IGN.

>>29927731
SuMo has one of the best stories out of all Pokemon games, and if you disagree then I don't know.

>>29927733
Because
It
Means
Nothing
In
A
Turn
Based
Game
On
The
3
D
Fucking
S

>caring about reviews
But why?

>>29927647
dumb Jimmy

>>29927511
Will the Pokemon Bank feat. be available as soon as Nov 18th?

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>>29927472

>>29927744
It's not just battles. Just walk around the plaza, or any big city.

And it fucking matters when it's so bad that it takes several seconds to register an action in the menu.

>>29927756
I can guarantee you that if it got bad scores you'd be posting them all over the board.
I guarantee it.
There is no use denying it.
No matter how much you claim you wouldn't, it is irrefutable fact.

>>29927781
No billy, you can't bring over your EPIC CHARIZARD to sweep through the game.

>>29927744
It makes the battles last longer you dip. Im not even talking about SM. XY had it bad when there was more than 2, heavily apparent in triple battles. N3ds user though, single battles were fine.

>>29927739
>SuMo
You're just doing this to irritate us aren't you?

>>29927796
>And it fucking matters when it's so bad that it takes several seconds to register an action in the menu
I played on the O3DS, if you're taking seconds to register a input then something is wrong with your 3DS.

Ohmori redeemed.

>>29927822
he just hates video games mate

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>>29927721
>>29927756
Nigga, do you even know how the internet works ? For people with opinions like us they mean nothing, but for the general mass they are a big deal. Why do you think people made a shitfest when XY and ORAS outsold HGSS and BW ? Tons of people use that as guideline for what to get and what not to.

Regardless, these are still amazing games that everyone will enjoy even ignoring the critics.

>>29927865
This.

OR/AS was a step backwards.

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>>29927472
You should know not to take /vp/, or any of 4chan, opinions seriously. A lot of it is just memes, contrarianism, and hive mentality. Every single game is hated by /vp/. Everytime a new game comes out, it gets heavily shitted on. XY hate is somewhat justifiable though, because it definitely had a lot of lost potential and is the weakest main series entry, but it's still not as bad as /vp/ says. I enjoyed it and the experience at the time, but it won't hold up that well.

Imho, SM is the best since BW.
No, I don't care for BW2.

DPFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>29927472
>taking ign reviews seriously

>>29927891
>It's not just IGN giving it an amazing review.

>>29927803
You can do better, anon

Pretty sure the average for IGN is like 8.

So on a 6-10 scale, 9/10 = 80%.
It's shit.

>>29927885
I don't remember much of the B/W series, but B/W2 was my favorite

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>>29927925
You're trying way too hard senpaitachi

>>29927925
You didn't account for nuIGN.

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>>29927925

>>29927744
it actually means a lot to me. It really breaks my immersion, I know thats a buzzword and such but fuck its jarring

Glad to see the games are as good as XY

Shame to see the games are as bad as XY.

>>29927965
she sounds s'cute

This game is not good enough. The story is bad. Trials aren't really good and gyms are missing too.

Lusamine and team Skull aren't very interesting.

>>29927974
>in-battle fucking immersion

>shit on someone's team, take 0 damage
>battle ends
>cutscene plays
>"wow that was a close one"

>>29928037
>horde battle
>I have no multi hit moves
>I have to take out these fuckers one by one
>Takes for goddamn ever because the game is slow as shit

>>29928037
Wow so dark and jaded

Must frequent /v/, huh

>>29928062
>>horde battle
nope

>>29928062
It takes literally half a second longer.

Go back to mobile games.

>>29928027
i'll let someone else shit on you

>>29928062
>>29927974
>horde battle
This just proves the people shitposting haven't played the game.

Just ignore them.

Those reviews are being too generous. I love the game, but anything above 8 is too much.

It expands on the previous games a lot to provide a decent experience and the story shows improvement. Totems are a nice idea for boss fights but the trial themselves are piss-easy.

>>29928084
it still looks really bad, Its not a deal breaker Im just not happy that they didn't fix my greatest complaint from the last games

>>29928099
what? X/Y had horde battles in them idk what you are talking about

Look how unique trials are guys!

What's that? They're essentially just gyms with gimmicks like every game has done and end up just being a battle fest as always? Nonsense!

>>29928104
The trials are supposed to be fun, the totems are the "gym leader"

The reviews are spot on in some cases. 10/10 is just wrong.

Gameinformer actually has the correct score this time at 8.5/10

>>29928104
>Salazzle
>ez
>Not getting swepted by Hau's Raichu on the third island

>>29927657
Yeah, but it wasn't good either.

>>29928159
cause it means you have bad taste and probably play hentai games in your spare time

>>29927472
>IGN

>>29928062
>impying fury swipes would help at all
you want something that hits multiple opponents, not a multi hit move.
It's really your own damn fault if you can't manage to figure out that HEY I MIGHT NEED AN AOE MOVE SOME TIME MIGHT WANNA KEEP ONE AROUND.
Have fun getting shit on in whatever you prefer to S&M
>>29927974
>muh immersion
in a game where you can see your damn character walking around? you're already making huge leaps here just accept the slowdown with some hand-wave magic.
Protip: You aren't actually an 11 year old girl with a pocket full of monsters.

>>29928159
Because kids are afraid of having wasted their allowance money or something.

As someone who enjoyed gens 1 - 4, the story made the game really annoying to play through, and the low amount of new pokemon and exploration made it even worse.

I want to train, catch and battle, not watch cutscenes with a bunch of generic characters. I hate how GF is neglecting what made the series popular to begin with.

>>29927721
>reviews are opinions and not fact
No fucking shit retard. You can have the opinion that shit taste good but most people will disagree with you.

>>29928215
immersion has nothing to do with being in the game, it has a lot to do with not being a fucking eyesore

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WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED BROS

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BLUNDER

>>29928226
They're are Objective facts about the game. That's what reviews should only ever be.

>>29928223
what if we got it for free, what do we have to justify it with? time wasted? nah, it's genuinely a good game, and if you don't like it then your expectations are too high

>>29928159
Why does saying you enjoyed a game make you literally satan around here?

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>>29928256
If I wanted facts about a game I would look at a press release. Reviews are supposed to be "how good do I think this game is."

Gym battles are replaced by Island Trials is a fact. That doesn't tell me shit about if it's any good or not which is what I want to know.

>>29928302
You are expecting too much from a handheld game, maybe with those expectations you might enjoy the new Pokemon game on Switch.

>>29927638
That's because XY were good. It wasn't until ORAS added NOTHING that people started hating gen 6, and then went back and starting ripping into XY for it being better to make up for it.

>>29928159
Real talk, it's because the people who say they don't like thing, when it goes against the majority opinion, care more about being the special butterfly than actually discussing the flaws. They come in flinging their opinions around like they're the fountain of superb taste and anyone who thinks otherwise is a brain dead shill.

Of course both sides do it, but one side is much worse.

>>29928321
well you can't know that unless you play it yourself. There's a demo out right now that has a Trial in it, go play that. I really wish more developers made demos now a days.

>>29928154
Salazzle was the easiest one. Mimikyu fucked half my team up by outspeeding me and using Play Rough to take half of my 'mons HP. That Raichu was a bitch too.

The game's still piss easy but it's a lot more challenging than XY was at least. I've never used exp share in any of the games either so maybe that helps.

>>29928357
XY was fucking horrendous, you twat. Only the breeding/training aspects of it being made more convenient were good.

Just wait until SuMo 2, will be GOTY

>>29927796
Your DS is literally broken.

>>29927813
Yes. And I will never stop. It's too fun and requires like no effort from me to piss of dozens of people.

>>29928376
Lurantis was the only one that caught me off guard at first, but then I used Baby Doll Eyes with Brionne my second attempt and won. Even Solar Blade couldn't break through my Trumbeak with its lowered Attack.

>>29927975
>>29927985
XY shouldn't even be counted honestly. SM is a lot better Pokemon game.

>>29928027
>Trials aren't really good and gyms are missing too.
Trials could have been more fleshed out, but the Totem fights are good. The mini gym puzzles missing isn't the problem for me, it's lack of dungeons in the overworld.

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>I hope it fails they said
>I hope it scores low they said

Hahahaha yes cry more /vp/

>>29928286
I wouldn't say that my expectations are too high when I've literally said that I enjoyed a DS game with little to no 3D and STATIC SPRITES.

Pokémon only cares about presentation now, substance is almost zero. People are praising a game that's almost as linear as FFXIII, and with a generic "grow a backbone" story. Hell, did you play those Strength "puzzles"?

I'd say that your expectations are too low.

>>29928394
Okay, whatever you say anon. Keep living in your reality where you're the best.

All that genwun pandering really paid off.

>>29928598
Which is pretty ironic since it has nothing that made gen 1 fun.

We're ever getting a good pokemoon game like BW1,Platinum,Emerald,HGSS?

BW2 did really hurt the franchise,with old pokemon begin everywhere and new pokemon barely appareing.

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>>29927696
>It was bad for the standard that BW and BW2 set.
>standard

>>29927472
Is the famitsu score out yet?

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>>29927472
>Everyone says the game sucks so it sucks!
>Game hasn't even been released
>Everyone

The 20 or so people on this board that hacked the game are basically fish shitting into the water filter so it gets circulated into the aquarium that is /vp/ and now all of you have been forced to put up with the bullshit they spout. I truly feel for the normal residents that arent total autists, good to see the "shit game" meme take such a hard hit.

>>29928616
>gen 1
>fun

>>29927813
HaGoSoSi was better

>>29928661
Fun enough that it turned into a 20 years long franchise, figures.

>>29928644
Don't trust famitsu. It's the IGN of Japan - aka corporate shills. You can look online if you don't believe me here.

>>29928674
Don't underestimate marketing dude

>>29928644
>>29928677
LEGO Ninjago: Nindroids (3DS) – 6/7/8/7 [28/40]
LEGO Ninjago: Nindroids (PS Vita) – 6/7/8/7 [28/40]
Mafia III (PS4) – 7/8/8/8 [31/40]
Mafia III (XBO) – 7/8/8/8 [31/40]
Otome Riron to Sono Shuuhen: Bon Voyage (PS Vita) – 7/8/7/7 [29/40]
Pokemon Sun / Pokemon Moon (3DS) – 9/10/10/9 [38/40]
The Princess is Money-Hungry (PS Vita) – 7/8/8/7 [30/40]
Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru (PS4) – 9/9/8/9 [35/40]

>>29928630
Never, now that Gamefreak knows that they can get by with minimal effort.

Holy shit it's like /v/ suddenly raided /vp/. Why are you all even here if you hate pokemon so much and you want it to fail?

>>29928707
We love pokemon and want it to be good, which is why we aren't celebrating shit games like the last three and instead are wanting more.

>>29927472
I don't know... I'm sure I'll still enjoy it overall but I really, really hate when games force female characters on the MC.

Maybe Lillie isn't as bad as everyone is saying but it'll be a hit to my enjoyment of the game nonetheless.

>>29928598
>taking the group of people least willing to accept change, and changing their favorites
>pandering
I don't think that word means what you think it means.

>>29928724
>we

>>29928699
i wish BW2 never existed,seriously.
If that game never existed maybe XYshould have been good and old pokemon wouldn't over shadow new ones.

>>29928724
>/vp/ loves pokemon
stopped reading there

>>29928662
>Ha
Illiterate fuck.

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>>29928707
Bitter BITTER neckbeards & Premium TEARS! I come here every other week to bathe in the tears its like a timeshare away from my normal boards.

>>29928756
We love pokemon,we're just tired that they make so few pokemon and bloat the dex with old pokemon,it's getting boring and stale,i don't know why buy the games annyore,it's just the same pokemon over and over.

>>29928692
Nice. Thank you.

>>29928756
I've probably spent more hours playing Pokemon games than half of the shills here.

I want to continue playing Pokemon until it ends. It's one of the few video-games that I still enjoy.

>>29928744
To me BW2 wasn't bad. It still had the 150 new pokemon.

I feel like it was a good compromise between the people who complained over BW, and the people who enjoyed it.

>nearly every reviewer considers sun and moon the best pokemon game ever
>sun and moon copies nearly everything from yokai-watch and has endless genwunner pandering with removal of multiple series staples
reviews don't matter, sun and moon is still a shit pokemon game to me.

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>>29927472
>IGN

>>29928756
I've put thousands of hours into this series. I love them dearly, but at this point they should be better than they are.

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29928807
>we love pokemon

>>29928707
/v/ wanted another TORtanic

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So does this mean /vp admits X&Y are excellent games by default?

>>29928821
BW2 started the whole "old pokemon are the stars,and new pokemon are just shit"
I honestly don't know why even suport this franchise anymore,i'm tired of seeing the same old pokmon.

and just like with X/Y, the disappointment will set in after you beat in in 15 hours and have nothing else to do in the game.

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>>29928807
>NOT adding more Pokémon is bloating the dex
>the games that literally change more than any other entry in the series are the ones that are samey and stale

>>29927681
>"Oh, well IGN now is WAAAAY more professional than they were three years ago. Really guys, believe me!"

>>29928959

> waaaaah IGN!

Too bad the praise is universal.

Doesn't matter. In a few months time, most threads on /vp/ will be complaining about how bad they think SM are and suddenly liking XY.

>>29928976
>inb4 There's no such thing as a Pokemon cycle!

>>29928730
>I don't know... I'm sure I'll still enjoy it overall but I really, really hate when games force female characters on the MC.

I don't mind it, I just hate when they try so hard to make you like and protect her. If she was an independent trainer trying to help Cosmog, then she would be a really cool character.

Hell, she could even help you with lots of double battles, like previous characters.

>>29928901
I agree with you, but I'm saying that if we must have a bunch of old pokemon, then they shouldn't be the majority like in XY and SM.

>>29928376
SEE...ME...?

>>29928900
>>29928915
XY is shit.

SM isn't, it just doesn't have the amount of features like plat/HGSS/BW2. SM feels like BW1 in content.

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>>29928494
>Power Herb, Sunny day, Solarblade Lurantis

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>29929020
SM has 294 regional dex,so it isn't that bad.
But XY was just too much.

Platinum,Emerald did it really good balancing the old and new.,BW2 kind of,evenn if i don't liek it.

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>There are actually people who mind that the traditional 8 gym structure and HM's are gone.

Doesnt surprise me these games are fucking great stop giving attention to the shitposts that either havent played or dont know how

>>29928692
LEGO FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>29928901
I'm thinking about just waiting to buy a used copy. It's a shame, too. This was one of three games this whole fucking year, and it looks like it's going to be just another overhyped disappointment.

>>29929038
>SM feels like BW1
So...it's shit.

>>29929175
Only if you have shit opinions, sorry anon.

>>29929038
No, it really does feel closer to X/Y than any other game.

>>29927733
They probably played it on an N3DS.

>>29929165
*one of three games this whole fucking year I was excited for.

We should all bash ign in their site for giving these games such a high rating.

>>29928976
I remember when XY came out and everyone thought they were GOTY, and then a month later everyone started shitting on them. Pokemon fans are beyond parody at this point.

>>29928919
I was saying the regional dex.
I'm geting bored of seeing wingull and zubat again i want to see new pokemon that's why i buy the game and that's why BW1 was so good.

>>29927524
Eh

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So why exactly are people saying S/M is bad? Is there something wrong with the game aside from frame rate? I haven't heard too many negative things from leakers.

>>29929289
Too many cutscenes, the plot is shit and oriented around Lillie who is pretty much just a waifubait character, there's very little to explore, the post-game is bare-bones.

It was obvious that it'd be a 9/10 or at least rated as such.
However, it isn't a 10/10 which it could have easily been had it not been for stupid decisions such as removing hordes AND super training. And for fuck's sake, is it so damn difficult to include a post-game for the dedicated?

>>29927925
The delusion is real

>>29927472
IGN's standards have really become low.
Anyone excited about this rating hasn't played the game.
IGN giving it a good rating doesn't automatically makes the games good.

It just implies that Nintendo gave them a sizable amount of money for a good review. They know their shit when it comes to marketing.

>>29929378
no
no they don't

>>29928125
Who cares about xy we're talking about sun and moon. Go bitch somewhere else about crystal or something else irrelevant

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>>29929289
Mostly just one dedicated shitposter

>>29927534
DENIAL FAGS STILL AT IT

>>29928724
Except your kind are overly cynical then, the games have been good and have provided fun

>>29928976
You just know this will happen, starting with shitty "now that the dust has settled" threads

>>29929426
Oop

>>29929427

No I found it to be pretty meh myself, though about as good as X/Y and not "shit" I suppose.

>>29929426
Yokai watch is by no means great, but I want it to do well enough to stay in the States. Not for the games, but just so I can keep getting English merch/watching the superior English dub.

>>29929529
It's infinitely better than XY

S/M is basically everything that XY tried to be.

The lack of mention of the unstable framerate is honestly baffling, especially the reviews that talk about how great the Battle Royal is and how they expect people to flood in to use it online all the time.

The shitty framerate and slowdown PLUS online latency sounds like the worst thing ever.

>>29929540
This. It's the "sequel effect". First game feels out the premise (in XY's case, 3D with some new mechanics) and then the next game improves upon it.

>>29927694
Understandable, you're literally one of the biggest faggots on /vp/.

>>29929561
>The shitty framerate and slowdown PLUS online latency sounds like the worst thing ever.
Boku no upgrade your DS. It runs just fine on the New 3DS.

>>29929561
actually quite a few reviews do cite it

>>29929540
>S/M is basically everything that XY tried to be.

A heaping pile of shit? That would explain a lot.

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>>29929289
No exploration.
The entire game is incredibly linear. Most routes are just a straight path that goes from point A to B.
Too many cutscenes.
Small loading times everywhere that really add up and make the game feels slow
Annoying fixed camera
Small Pokedex
Region in general feels very empty. Towns all have lots of unenterable buildings and shots like pic related where you don't really see anything around you are frequent
Graphics are imo not very good looking.

To name a few.

>>29929540
How so? I don't quite see what X/Y lacked, aside from the hand holding but S/M does that as well.

I'm on the third island and not seeing much of a change, especially difficulty wise. Exp share to set off and im avoiding trainers here and there, and it's still click my winbotton move.

>>29929624
XY lacked soul

Nothing there feels memorable, it's so by the numbers

>>29929571
>very few new pokemon, most of whom are shitmons
>introduced baby pokemon
>can't even find half of the johto dex in johto, like houndour and larvitar
>asinine level curve, still fighting wild pokemon in their 20s on your way to the elite four
>kanto is barren and boring
It's shit and HG/SS fixed none of those problems yet /vp/ creams itself over them

>>29929613
>No exploration
This is my biggest complain
They should've just scrapped the plot and focused completely in trials and environments
>Kukui's volcano isn't a dungeon

>>29929642

You could say the same about S/M, but truth be told I haven't found anything memorable about pokemon, latelty, cept maybe the PWT.

>>29929642
this, it's a custerfuck, Kalos is a theme park region

>>29929679
Execpt for the whole concept of trials

>>29929613
opinion.

>>29929699
S&M is hardly different desu, except that its environments aren't as varied.

>>29929613
Linear is good. It provides actual structure which had been the biggest flaw of every pokemon game not named b/w. This isnt skyrim, its a jrpg

>>29927472
the keyboards in the IGN offices literally missing the numbers 0-8

>Game is boring and repetetive.
>Too short.
>Bad AI.
>9/10

>>29929624
S/M is basically the adventures of a group of kids, and Lillie and Hau are more memorable and interesting than those retards in XY

It's story based like XY tried to be and does it better.

More people use this generation's gimmick (Z-moves), even some random trainers, whereas the NPCs who actually used Mega Evolution in XY could probably be counted on one hand.

There's genwun pandering but it isn't as retarded as XY (here's a Kanto starter and a megastone for them! megastones for your actual starter? I dunno lmao) and no Lucario pandering at all

Alola feels like a consistent region whereas Kalos was a thematic clusterfuck.

Trial captains and Kahunas actually have a role in the plot and aren't just one-offs, same technically goes for the Elite 4 since 3/4 of them are either captains or kahunas that you meet.

>>29929724
No SM has a theme and goes with it, the overworld just needed more towns and dungeons with lore, plus postgame stuff.

>>29929724
The whole idea of 4 islands Trials ACTUALLY RIDING POKEMON

Replacing HM's new forms that replace common Pokemon ect.

>>29929355
no hordes?! how am i supposed to EV train? i'm not going back to farming singlular mons.
i'm never going back.

>>29929799
Chaining pokemon that call for help ramps up the EVs that you receive.

>>29929707
Everything comes down to opinion when you're grading how much you like a game.
Saying a game is good or bad without injecting your own tastes is literally impossible.

>>29927647
Well shit. Can't trust this fag because he thinks there are more than two genders.

>>29929746
This isn't supposed to be a generic JRPG.

IT NEVER WAS.

Being one might please some people, but will alienate others, especially the older ones who grew up with the series.

If I wanted Yokai Watch, I'd just play Yokai Watch.

>>29927472
Why didn't they complain about the water this time?

>>29927647
TWO

>>29929836
Because contrary to what meming fanboys think, the complaint about water was perfectly justified if you actually read the review.

>>29929836
There's not a lot of it unlike Hoenn which is literally half water routes and now you don't need to waste a moveslot on HMs.

>>29929783
*Actually riding 6 pre-determined Pokémon.

For a game that's all about catching Pokemon this is pretty lame. Call me back when I can actually ride my own Pokemon.
Right now this isn't much else than just fancy bikes.

Hey /vp/, am I wrong to assume it will be easy to emulate? I'm completely out of touch with 3ds emulation. I'm too poor to buy a handheld console for one game.

>>29929750
>Lillie and Hau are more memorable and interesting than those retards in XY

Pretty hard to NOT be memorable when those little shits have a cutscene every 5 minutes.

Lillie in particular, half of the game you're forced to help her.

I'll take the "XY retards" who didn't sidetrack me every 5 minutes than a literal retard who can't even take care of herself.

>>29929873
You'll need a beefy computer and even then it's pretty unstable.
It's better than spending $200, but I wouldn't bother to be honest.

>>29929871
That's why I said "actually"

Nothing really happened you tricked along slowly on 2 different routes

lol @ people praising Sun and Moon.


It's a bad game just like X/Y, get over it.

The dissonance involved in bashing IGN for their ORAS review and then using their SM review as a way to prop up the game is astounding.

Anyway, this is your typical Pokemon review scores. Once the hype dies down in a coupld of weeks people who loved it will suddenly start hating it and shitpost all over the board about it, and we''ll be back to the same old clusterfuck until the next games get announced.

Jesus, Pokemon fans are utterly fucking predictable in their behaviour.

>Buyqueers attempting to justify the purchase they are forced to make.
Lmao

>>29929901
no

XY is a lot worse

>>29929958
Ok? That still didn't change what I said.

Both Sun/Moon and X/Y are bad games, I never said which one is better.

>>29929701

I dunno.
Comparing obvious pictures to each other, looking for items that have wild battles forced onto them, just didn't feel like I was doing anything different aside from a shitty forced minigame.

The others don't really stick out and I can't quite recall what they were.
I miss the days where NPC gave me my badge/stamp etc... and just left me alone. Forced characters like Lillie and Hau are little better than the losers from X/Y, so I can't say I see much different.

>>29929904
But people are already shitposting about hating it.

And IGN's review of ORAS was justified.

>>29929835
It was never a generic jrpg because the concept used to be fresh. Guess what? Its not anymore. X/y and oras proved that. S/M is a return to what B/W did and its fantastic. If you dont like it go and play any other game in the series, we will be enjoying the change and evolution of the series. After all, thats the main theme of the series isnt it? Evolution? Changing?

>>29929988
No, Sun/Moon is good with flaws.

>>29929835
Oh and by the way ive played this series since yellow on the special edition pikachu gbc.

>>29929750
I don't even like Lucario but I'm more offended and Charizard being your forced fly mon and Ash-Greninja being a thing. This is every bit as mad.
I can't say it does a story better than X or Y just as both stories are pretty bad. A kick to the left ball is just as bad as a kick to the right. I wan't interesting characters if they're riding shotgun on my adventure, and neither Sun/Moon nor X/Y has delivered on this.

>>29930009
Stop being so desperate to defend Sun/Moon.

Its a bad game by pokemon standards.

Get over it and get a life.

>>29930003
>S/M is a return to what B/W did and its fantastic
Don't compare this shit to B/W.
>If you dont like it go and play any other game in the series
Like B/W? Highly contradictory.

>>29930003
Please don't compare this crap with BW.

>>29930067
It's not bad, but it's not as good as BW2/HGSS/Plat

>>29930067
Let me guess, you favorite game is BW/2, right ?

>>29929993
Well yeah, the people who were hyped for it and pirated it are shitposting about it since they've already played it, everyone else still to play it will join them soon.

Also I agree that IGNs ORAS review was justified, but the fact that some people are suddenly propping up IGN as a beacon after hating on them is really funny.

>>29930078
>HGSS
>good

Enjoy your shit level curve and cut content.

>>29930073
>>29930075
I rank it on the same level as BW1 desu

>>29930089
I've already played it and I think they're on par with BW2

>>29930078
>HG/SS
>good

>>29930092
Don't bother with Unovafags, they think there game is sacred beyond all of them. You can't change the opinion of these individuals.

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>>29930091
>>29930109
>gen 2 is bad meme

>BW good
>BW 2 good

kek /vp/ once again shows its stupidity

>>29930075
its almost as good

>>29930073
You need to learn how to read my man

>>29930126
>gen 2 is good meme
Enjoy fighting level 20 shitmons in Victory Road

>>29927744
Its even worse if a turn bases RPG

>>29930081
No. Its a tie between Crystal and Platinum.

>>29930124
But I like BW1. SM isn't as good as BW2.

>>29929427
Yeah, only one person can possibly disagree

>>29930098
B/W2 didn't have amazing characters, but i'd place the gen 7 characters closer to the kids in X and Y. Just very generic here because the plot says so kids, no personality. I think they're overrated, B/W2 that is, but theres nothing i've seen that would make me put Moon(or Sun) on par.

It's cheap PWT knockoff has a limited selection, the areas are very lifeless, the region is small, and postgame has little to speak on in terms of new areas. Could you explain your reasoning? Maybe I missed something?

>>29930009
Sun and Moon suffer from the same shit as XY
>nearly non-existent exploring
>linear progression with a whole lot of handholding and "story" interruptions
>graphics that result in fps drops and more importantly now delays
>small amount of new pokémon
>relatively barren post-game
I don't think all of those are problems myself, like the small amount of new pokémon, but all the shit people critizise XY for is present in SM. Aside from the Exp Share being more balanced this time.

>>29930163
>no personality
SM characters feel like they have some life. I don't even remember the names of the XY gym leaders.

>>29930183
>lifeless
buzzword
>no personality
I disagree

Also the complaints about S/M being linear are hilarious coming from people who suck Gen V's dick, seeing as how that region was literally a fucking circle.

>>29930124
No, dude. If you want a derogatory term, call me a genwunner.

Unova actually did the whole "shiny and new" thing right. It doesn't pushes the system beyond its limit. It doesn't shoves a bunch of unskippable cutscenes down your throat. It added a bunch of new pokemon. It had the whole east Unova to explore. It added the Gamesync, the global link, consolidated the competitive formats that we know today.

What SM did? It's basically XY with more cutscenes and better graphics. No substance at all.

>>29930198

I disagree. I can't remember any of the X/Y names, yes, but the last time I touched that was a year ago.
Meanwhile I can't remember the names of any Kahuna/Trial Captain's and I was just there a few days ago.

It's the same thing, just with a tropical packaging this time.

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>>29927472
Who the fuck cares about these rating sites? Just because some 20-something liberal arts cunt thinks the game is great means absolutely nothing. Do you really need approval from someone like that to like the game?

Sun/Moon looks good, but shitty reviewers have nothing to do with it.

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why even give an option?

>>29930204

I don't like gen V but I can agree on the "lifeless" thing. Buzzword aside, routes used to have things that made them fun. Graphical variance is down/most look the same and they're very open and empty.

A trend started in X/Y and got even worse here, just because this shit had to run on the O3DS.

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>>29930067
>Get over it and get a life.
I'm sure there is some irony in this statement somewhere.

>>29930146
>the first one

KEK

>>29930257
Get a life, nigger.

>>29930256
>3D graphics allowing for bigger spaces than sprites
>everything's so open and empty!

>>29930253
The game is full of these and many times, the NPC will have the same reaction no matter what you pick.

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For the people who liked SM story, do you typically like moe anime plots? I'm not asking this sarcastically either. If there's a large concentration of /a/ crossposters that played SM I can understand so many people being impressed with the story. Otherwise, I'm confused.

>>29930204
ie you have no argument.
Got it.

>>29930307
so its on par with at least DA:Inquisition and Skyrim

>>29930322
>projecting this hard

>>29930282

Yes, I'm glad somebody else understands.

>>29930312
No.
All I ask of anime are flashy lights and lots of shouts.

>>29930188
>nearly non-existent exploring
yes, should have had way more dungeons
>linear progression with a whole lot of handholding and "story" interruptions
I guess but it's been like that since BW, it needed more areas to explore
>graphics that result in fps drops and more importantly now delays
yep, I'm playing on a9lh new3ds, biggest problem I noticed was the double battles lag, but the overworld graphics is a lot better than gen 6
>small amount of new pokémon
But I like a lot more of them than gen 6 pokemon
>relatively barren post-game
yes

>>29930312
I don't care for moe anime, but the most I enjoyed the game story wise was Gladion calling Hau a casual. I'm going into the Elite 4 and it's really the only moment that sticks with me.

>>29930253
>no *drops spaghetti* option
garbage

>reviews
>ever mattering

reminder Y was the highest rated mainline Pokemon game on Metacritic and probably will be after SM reviews stop coming it

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>>29930312
yes

>>29927472
XY got a 9 too though. We all know that was dreck.

>>29927472
Sun/Moon will be yet another great 2016 upset, just like Trump and the Cubs. All the people saying its shit playing their hacked copies are just wrong.

They wouldn't have bought the game anyway and they were never Pokemon fans to begin with, so I think their opinions on the matter are worth less than nothing.

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I've seen heavily shill threads.
This smells like one of them.

I don't get it, sure, 4chan tends to shit on mostly everything that has a huge mainstream audience, but in the end, Pokémon is one of those many things that doesn't really need to be defended in this aggressive reddit like fashion.

Outside of the usual "lel geamz too issy, geamz sheit cuntfirmd", /vp/ is pretty loyal to the franchise, at least enough to be spared from a marketing/fanboy raids.

What gives? Is it really that bad this time? Or is this the case of another ironic "too much water™ " meme?

>>29930535
stop overanalyzing a columbian cucumber anonymous posting website

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>>29930552
>don't think, shill
Ah, gotcha.

>>29930535
You're thinking about it too hard famalam.

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>>29930602
>shill
there's that word again

all im saying is don't take either side of the argument with a grain of salt

>>29930535
>Is it really that bad this time?
no

>>29927472
>to much water memers btfo

>>29930312
I hate moe anime but I loved SM through and through.

>>29929993
People who played the game are shitting on it. People who haven't are praising it.

Nintendo's marketing team did one hell of a job.

>>29930532
I'm a hackfag and I think these games are amazing. I love them even with their flaws and I might have bought three copiesit was the amazon dual pack and a moon preload

>>29930532
>generalizing players because you don't want your game to have any criticism whatsoever
What does them playing a hacked copy have to do with anything, and why are they automatically wrong?

I fucking loved Pokemon games up until at least after XY came out and bought into the hype of these games and was disappointed after playing.

Sounds like to me you just want to have a safe space where no one can talk bad about the things you like, no matter how legitimate their complaints are.

>>29930312
But Anon, moe anime has no plot.

>>29929993
>And IGN's review of ORAS was justified.
Wrong

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>>29930532
No, the upset will be when Shantae beats Sun & Moon for GOTY.

That is, if WayForward releases the fucking thing this year.

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>>29930312
>Moe anime
You're comparing it to the wrong genre, anon.

>>29931382
But Lillie is never on the side

>>29931274
Yes, it was.
IGN is shit but their review of ORAS was fairly decent. I pray you're not an underage memer that just skip right to the bullet points.

So, criminalfags who have been infesting the board with spoilers since a week ago; is it the best one yet?

>>29932170
Obviously depends what you're looking for.
Far too handholdy and railroady for me.
If you're into heavy cut scenes and such you might like it more than I did.

>>29930073
>>29930075
Nah fuck off with your shit taste. The only games worse than BW are RB and DP.

>>29929613
It's linear done right unlike BW and XY with their literal circle route structure. And there are side-areas and side-quests. Ten Carat Hill for example.

I've never been this anti-Pokemon before, but the reviews are really bugging me.

>"S/M radically changes the formula and points to a new direction to the series!"

It doesn't at all. The only real 'formula change' is the trials instead of gyms and really they're basically the same thing. Not only that, the reason we have trials is because you can't fit the gyms on the Alola region. When we get Gen 8 we're not going to get 'Island Trials' again, we'll just go back to gyms.

>"There isn't much postgame, outside of catching the 800 or so Pokemon now available"

You literally can't do this. The national dex is transferred from Bank only, you can capture 300 tops - and that's assuming there's a healthy number of QR code Pokemon.

I wish they'd actually play the games before they write the reviews.

>>29928146
At least they were fun little things instead of a shitty puzzle + generic trainers.

>>29932488
>It's linear done right

It really isn't. BW and XY actually let you explore a few routes here and there even if you were railroaded to the next city/town.

S/M is super railroaded.

I am not a guy who shitpost about games I don't like as well as I am not someone hyping ub a game because it's "new" like many are overrating new games, but to be dead serious now, I like XY more. The transition between 2D and 3D was a boost of enjoying the game and I like the region more than Alola.

Alola right now feels like a chain to walk through. Linear, quite some breaks for cutscenes and slow. Kalos was linear too, but there were quite a decent amount of placed to explore.

And content wise, it's on par with Kalos, but with more handholding. So I can't see why SM should be better than XY right now.

I think pokemon games have been steadily improving with each game after bw were so lousy
B2w2 was okay, xy was better yet, and oras impressed me with dexnav and delta episode

Sun/moon couldn't possibly be worse than gen 5, could it?

>>29927472
>braging about a 9.0 at ign
Same score as X and Y, doesn't mean shit.

>>29932978
Means they're at least as good which is great news
XY were far better first versions than dp or bw were

>>29927524
Literally who?

>>29932971

I agree that Pokemon games have been steadily improving but here's the problem with S/M - Try and think of the ways it's 'improved' the series.

-The trials are a slight change from the gym formula, but they're not that different, they're not an improvement and they won't persist into Gen 8.

-The atmosphere, lighting etc of Alola IS good, it does feel more vibrant that other overworlds...but it completely undermines itself with so much stuff being inaccessible. So many more buildings that you can't enter, so many places which look accessible and interesting on the map you can't go to.

-Plot? B/W already had a plot. I'm not even a fan of B/W but it was the first game in the series to have a more thought out plot. S/M hasn't really improved that, the plot isn't THAT amazing. It's more character-centric but that doesn't necessarily make it better, just different.

Other than these, what exactly HAS been improved? S/M aren't bad games but they haven't done anything cutting edge at all.

>>29927696
B/W was shit tho, the only good game that came out of Gen 5 was B/W2.

>>29933316
Egao

>>29933201
Why bother to go to such effort to say nothing at all

>>29929027
That actually kinda spooked me. Since when do non-Psychic/Legendary/Lucario/Hyper-Advanced-Stealth-Flying-Dinosaur Pokemon talk?

>>29933913
This is 4chan, many of the lost souls here have no where else to be heard.

I'm not saying this game is trash, I haven't played it yet (and it looks good), but
>IGN
Sure, sure.

>>29927534
This is the literal opposite of the EA effect

If you want to reach so bad just say something retarded like the Sonic cycle

>>29933913

What do you mean? His post was pretty substantive. You may disagree about the Island Trials mechanic, but area inaccessibility is a real problem and the plot is trite like any other Pokemon game.

>>29927472
>7.8 means IGN is shit
>9 means haters BTFO'd

Just play the game on release day and judge it for yourselves. Half of you idiots will have buyer's remorse it's guaranteed; this is an anime game with a child's difficulty not a pokemon game.

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>>29935069
>this is an anime game with a child's difficulty

So it's a Pokemon game?