>Grimer used Z-Disable! >the opposing Psyduck's Water

oy, for real? that's a pretty potent finisher

>>29868492
>Gengar used Mean Look
>Gengar used Z-Disable

Guys I think it'll still be OU

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>>29868492
>Gen VII AI is literally just spam this one move over and over along with a status move with a few tucked aside that don't do shit
>get early route abra/slowpoke
>evolve to alakazam early on
>obtain normieium
>learn disable
>insert next spammy totem
>Z-disable their asses
>watch them struggle while you wipe the floor with them

>>29868492
Proof or GTFO

>>29868492
Z Disable Ninetails might be an interesting thing in this VGC season.

>>29868492
That sounds really fucking broken. Is this going to be the new power-up punch?

>>29868492
Disable has always been a favorite move of mine. If this is true, it will be best move in the game until they retcon/nerf it.

>>29868633
Wait I just used it against a spearow and it was able to use a move after. I'm really fucking confused now. A trainer's Psyduck with Water Gun at level 12 should have 4 moves but it had to struggle. I really, really don't think trainers have Choice items.

Jesus fuck, people.

http://pastebin.com/d5Hed1cw

Z-Disable gets rid of any debuffs on your Pokemon when you use it.

>>29868808
>Z-Belly Drum restores your health 100%
What?

>>29868808
But why did Psyduck struggle?

>>29868808
>Z Belly Drum
what the fuck

>>29868876
The whole thread is bait you dumb fuck.

>>29868870
Before you Drum. It basically guarantees you the belly drum even if you have 1HP left. It heals you BEFORE you drum, not after.

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>>29868718
>he thinks GF actually gives trainers full movesets
T I E R N O ' S
R O S E R A D E

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>>29868602
>>29868808
Next trainer, after it didn't work on a wild Spearow. Petilil at 13 should have Growth, Leech Seed, Sleep Powder and Mega Drain. I saw it use 2 different moves before this.

I'm gonna save before the next trainer and experiment more.

>>29868919
Oh. Shit, that would've been interesting to see.

>>29868939
You'd really hate to see Red's team then.

i tried z-supersonic it did NOTHING, idgi

31 - Rising Star Ian
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Pokemon: 1
Psyduck (Lv. 13) (Nature: Modest) (Moves: Water Gun/(None)/(None)/(None)) IVs: 15/15/15/31/15/15 EVs: 0/0/0/0/0/0

http://pastebin.com/vkaZNTra

>>29869003
Ok, looks like I got Game Freaked.

>>29869003
Fuck, I really thought I saw the Petilil use different attacks, I Hardened for 2 turns first.

>>29869045
Just confirmed, that trainer has only Mega Drain. False alarm everyone, sorry for getting your hopes up for something that would have been ludicrous.

>>29869101
If only gamefreak was that competent. Goddamn some of the Z-moves could've had so much potential

>>29869101
Would have been Just Switch Out LMAO: The Move anyway. You'd burn your Z-move for no real gain 90% of the time. And the potential payoff is 1 killed Pokemon... like the payoff for every attacking Z-move anyway.

>>29868808
>Z Baton Pass
>Reset stat changes
W H Y

>>29869360
In the ultra, ultra-niche situation where you want to just switch using your Pokemon's speed yet you have significant negative stat buffs on you. The Pokemon would already be holding the Z-item for its actual buff move that it failed to get off, and thus has the option to use it on Baton Pass as a side effect.

>>29869247
Nah, it would've been funbro:the happening 2.0

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>>29869151
>If only Game Freak was competent and potentially gave the ability to completely Disable a Pokemon to something with a trapping move and being free to spam a boosting move while the opponent gets stuck with Struggle spam for a few turns

>>29870544
Yeah, if it means you have to use a moveslot on goddamn disable and use your only Z-crystal and only usage of a Z-crystal on it.

If they're going to give a competitively viable reason for splash to be used, why not disable? Give all these shitty situational moves literally nobody will ever use a chance to shine, like what they did for megas.

>>29869247
>What are trapping moves?
>What is a free setup for four turns, enough for the opponent to kill themselves with Struggle recoil by the time Disable wears off?

>>29870630
sub disable gengar was a thing for like the last 2 or 3 gens

>>29869360
whoever made the paste gave it a bad name. it just means getting rid of the negative buffs, not the positive ones.

>>29870630
NO, GIVING SOMETHING A FREE SETUP FOR FOUR TURNS WHILE THE OPPONENT KILLS THEMSELVES IN TWO TURNS OR LESS IS HORRIBLE AND ANTI-FUN, AND NOT ALLOWING SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAS NO BEARING ON A DEVELOPER'S COMPETENCE OR LACK THEREOF
>YEAH LET'S ALLOW SOMETHING LIKE SMEARGLE TO USE BLOCK, DISABLE ALL, FREEDOM TO SPAM SOMETHING LIKE QUIVER DANCE FOR AT LEAST FOUR TURNS, AND BATON PASS THOSE STATS OFF TO SOMETHING LIKE GARDEVOIR WHO'S FREE TO USE STORED POWER WHICH NOW HAS AT LEAST 260 BP COMING OFF OF AT LEAST A TRIPLED SPECIAL ATTACK STAT
To allow such a braindead strategy would be a horrible, horrible oversight.

>>29870942
>lol bullet punch

>>29871000
Fine, how about an Oranguru with Stored Power and Psychic Terrain, with a Focus Blast to deal with Dark-types?

>>29870942
Honestly more realistically the Z-move wouldn't actually disable for 4 turns. But realistically, you should be able to knock out a smeargle holding no item within 2 turns of it doing nothing to you.

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>>29869003
>A level 13 Psyduck in Sun/Moon would normally know Tail Whip / Water Gun / Confusion / Fury Swipes
>A Wild Psyduck could call for help, summoning another Psyduck with potentially superior IVs and a similar level

>>29868808
>z-move splash
I don't know what to feel.

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>>29872298
desperate

>Z Destiny Bond adds Follow Me

>>29868492
Even if it was true the pokemon still wouldn't be as disabled as you OP

>>29868808
>Destiny Bond: Becomes center of attention
Found my new favorite strat.

>>29869247
>get at least one free boost
>could be used when the opponent has only a couple of Pokemon left giving you an ez win condition
>this faggot thinks that'd be useless

>>29872298
A surprising number of pokemon learn splash.

>>29868808
>Hold Hands boosts all stats
L-Lewd.

>>29868808
>Z-Parting Shot is a wish pass
Normal Silvally might have a niche with that.