Do you see this? This retarded PU icicle ice cream motherfucker

DON'T BULLY VANILLUXE ;_;

>>29866541
it also gets snow warning as its hidden ability now.

>Decidueye used Sucker Punch!

>>29867090
>60 BP
>Focus Sash
>Vanilluxe used Ice Beam

>>29867090
But Sucker Punch isn't SE...

>>29866541

>Speed became the selling point of many gen 5/6 mons and those that weren't fast instead had retarded priority boosts or abilities
>This gen is trying to take a step back and add Pokemon that fill in the gaps in speed instead of adding more Pokemon that break the sound barrier and hit like a truck

vanilluxe being a mistake is one of /vp/'s shittiest memes ive ever seen

>>29867214
this. it's not great, but if you're gonna pick a gen 5 mistake, pick gigalith.

>>29867247
WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU SAY ABOUT GIGALITH?!!!1!?!?!?!?!?!

>>29866541
Please leave.

>>29867206
And that exactly is the fucking problem.
They either need priority or speed. Most Pokemon this gen have nothing to go for them, thus making them useless PU shitmons like Vanilluxe normally would have been. But comparing it to this gen it does looks really good and could a tier or two thanks to it's buffs.

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>>29866541
>outspeeds gen 7 mons
>buffed with snow warning
>no accuracy check blizzard due to hail
my favorite shitmon is finally gonna rise

>>29867206
Most gen 5 pokemon are actually really slow. The only ones who aren't are the musketeers and the genies.

>>29867325
>They either need priority or speed.

No, falling for this trap leads to power creep. Gamefreak is right to fill in the holes in speed tiers and add more counters to priority reliant Pokemon.

>>29867090
252+ SpA Life Orb Vanilluxe Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Decidueye: 361-429 (100.2 - 119.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Decidueye Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Vanilluxe: 110-130 (38.8 - 45.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

>>29866541
Good, It'll be nice to play in their tier.

>>29867247
fuck off gigalith is a bro

>>29867247
You mean Garbodor? Vanilluxe is interesting and there is literally nothing wrong with Gigalith's design. also Trubbish is cute, but Garbodor really isn't an objectively good-looking mon.

>mistakes
maybe to you. Ice cream bro is great.

>>29866541
Incineroar will still eat in for breakfast despite him being faster. He still doesn't have the coverage he needs and both Abomasnow and Ninetales will be better hail setters