Name a single, non legendary/ultra beast pokemon that will make it to OU.
No, actually go ahead and include legendaries/ultra beasts
>>29863638
Toxapex
>>29863638
Toxapex will be, 100%
>>29863638
Bewear will be Meme OU for a bit, just like how Trevenant was OU at the beginning.
>>29863638
Dhelmise
>>29863638
Pretty much just Toxapex. MAYBE Kommo-o, Salazzle but it will drop when everything gets settled
>Toxapex
>Xurkitree
>Kartana
That is, unless they autoban Xurkitree for being wallbreaker supreme
>non legendary
Salazzle and Ribombee might make it. Maybe Type:Null and Silvally with any luck. Kongmo-o might as well. Minior might make it to BL.
>legendary
Most of the Tapus, definitely Koko and Lele.
Pheromona
Buzzwole
Origami one
Xurkitree
Marshadow
>>29863664
>>29863674
No rapid spin. You sure?
Golisopod good base attack 120 rly bulky SD aqua jet, suker punch, leech life or a FUKING 90 base power stab fake out
the ability is shit and is weak to rocks but is overpowered for UU
>le epic "anything not OU is unusable shit" meme
LOVE this meme.
Salazzle will be OU because it shits on Tapus so well. Tikis will be the new genies.
>>29863751
>name a non ultra beast
>>29863638
Toxapex,possibly dhelmise,Tapu Lele,Celesteele just might,tsareena has a chance,kartana is looking fine and that might be it,or not its hard to tell right now but these certainly look likely now
>>29863638
>smogon
Opinion immediately discarded!
fuking 620 BST wishiwashi whit water spout is gonna be broken if can lead a trick room he can basically 1HKO all with spects except some mons like ferro, definitely a spam mon in VGC
>>29863813
Why the fuck would it need Rapid Spin?
>>29863664
I kinda like how Toxapex is strong against all three starters
Which newmon might counter it?
>>29864020
That's kind of why tentacruel was used, right?
>>29864032
Primarina can beat Toxapex one on one. But that's only because it has ass for offenses.
>>29863638
My man Minior. Shields down, shell smash, he's got everything
>>29863874
>lvl1 woodhammer
Wait, what?
Why does a puppet learn that?
>>29863638
Dhelmise, Toxapex, and Minior are almost guaranteed OU. Golisopod, Ninetails A and Salazzle might be.
All of the Tapus, Xurkitree, Pheromosa, Kartana, Celesteela, Nihilgeo and Buzzwole will all be OU or higher (Pheromosa 99% chance of being banned, Kartana ~70% and Xurkitree ~40% chance IMO).
Many more pokemon that won't make it in smog OU will be useful in either battlespot or VGC.
>>29864044
Just because it has Tentacruel's typing doesn't mean it's a Tentacruel clone. Toxapex is a dedicated wall. It has 140+ defenses, Recover, and Regenerator.
>>29863892
>No, actually go ahead and include legendaries/ultra beasts
>>29864172
and it's a good toxic spike setter, and if you want you could go merciless toxic spikes and venoshock, even with no are small amount of investment it'll hit pretty hard.
>>29864152
It uses the tail like a hammer.
>>29864090
My money is on this one, Shell Smash + White Herb + Acrobatics sounds crazy
Mimikyu, ofc.I wish it was good enough ;_;. It will at least be usable, though. Just not optimal
>>29864233
That's 300 base power
Jesus Christ
>>29864233
*or
Bewear, maybe.
>>29864152
The tail.
>>29864314
I think this too. Honestly, am I just blind or is nobody giving Bewear any credit? It's bulky as goddamn fuck and unlike other Pokemon like that it's actually pretty threatening too
>Minior
>Salazzle
>Toxapex
>Midday Rockruff
>>29863813
>>29864044
Tentacruel's role is a Rapid Spinner and occasional TSpiker because that's the utility that's available in its movepool. Toxapex is more similar to Alomomola in role: a bulky water with Regenerator that has low attacking stats. It'll function as a wall on stall teams, and almost entirely outclasses Alomomola in that role except for its lack of Wish.
Probably not OU, but I think Tsareena can succeed in UU or at very least RU with its solid movepool and bulk. If only it was faster though
>>29863638
Regenerator Toxapex, surely.
What are good sets for Minior, Salazzle, and Midday Rockruff?
>>29863638
Toxapex, minior, kommo-o, maybe salazzle.
Toxapex, Minior, Kommo-o, Bewear, Dhelmise, Golisopod, Salazzle, Mudsdale, Ribombee, and Lycanroc Midday all seem to me to be strong enough to fall into OU and BL.
>>29864446
Minior @ White Herb
Jolly Nature 252 Atk/252 Spe/4 Def
~Acrobatics
~Shell Smash
~Earthquake
~Stone Edge/Substitute
>>29864446
Minior's only common sets will be white herb shell smash + edgequake + acrobatics and lead stealth rock + boom.
Salazzle will probably run nasty plot + dual stabs + filler (sub, encore, taunt, WoW, toxic, hidden power, dragon pulse, knock off), or ditch NP for another filler move.
No idea for the daydog. Maybe swords dance?
>>29864606
probably SD, accelrock, etc.
with talonflame gone a lot of bug pokemon like volcarona and mega pinsir will rise so a rock type priority move will probably be very helpful