Why are the first games of a generation always so goddamn shit?

>>29843991
GS, RS and BW were good

What always gets me are the move tutor exclusions.

If the new Pokemon of a gen are shit and get no good TM/Egg moves, well you're FUCKED wait till le Sinnoh remakes :^)

Take Kommo-o for example, right now, it's strongest Fighting STAB is Sky Uppercut.

Just looking at ORAS' move tutors, it has TONS of additional moves that it could take advantage of, but it has no access to them right now.

Fuck GF.

>>29844024
I'm going to have to disagree with you on black and white.
>>29844043
Seriously. You'd think they've have a checklist of mandatory things to include in the next game, namely quality of life things.

>>29843991
But Gold and Silver and Diamond and Pearl were great.

Sun & Moon is just bad.

The sad thing is people will fall for this bait.

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>>29844126
>Diamond and Pearl were great.
Holy fuck we are NOT having this conversation right now.
Leave immediately.

>>29844059
Eh, in hindsight, there wasn't enough to do in the postgame locations of BW, but overall it wasn't a bad experience.

>>29844138
(You)

>>29843991
One thing I have to say is that XY felt like the only games where they were purposefully leaving things out for a revisit

>>29844024
>...were good
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

>>29844272
>there wasn't enough places to go in BW postgame

Then literally every other postgame is shit then right?

>>29844343
Blame hoennbabbies that can't live without treating cheating ai as good postgame

>>29844343
As in, Lanucosa Town had nothing, Undella Town had one battle that took place during one season, and Black City was empty unless you powered through the game quickly. Actually, Undella does have the Riches battles. I forgot those because I never did them.

The Looker quest was fine though. But no, BW's postgame is far from the best

>>29844540
Don't forget Royal Unova

>>29844024
Finally, someone else who likes BW1.

>>29844126
>Diamond and Pearl were great
Literally the worst taste possible. Leave immediately.

>>29844192
>>29844611
Muh "Diamond and Pearl were bad!" meme

Name one (1) reason why Diamond and Pearl were bad.

>>29844796
SLOW AS FUCK

>>29844843
Defog

>>29845070
To this day, I have never used defog in any playthrough of any pokemon game, not even in my four or so playthroughs of the sinnoh games.

>>29845070
rock climb, rock smash, surf, strength, cut. waterfall.

>>29845070
Flash

>>29844843
Only the surfing part was slow, and surfing wasn't as crucial as it was in Hoenn.

Fixed in Plat, but it wasn't THAT bad.

>>29844796
Gardena's Gym

>>29844126
>Calling Diamond/Pearl good and Sun/Moon bad

Literally fucking kill yourself, your taste is irreparably shit

>>29844843
I never understood this complaint. It's a little slow, but whatever. It's comfy.

>>29845160
So, how many extra routes and cities does SM have post game?

How many new pokemon?

How much larger are the zones?

Yep, thought so.

Christ you people complain harder than any other board on this website.

If you always end up thinking the first games are shit, why do you keep playing them

>>29845704
You have to like something to play it? You can't enjoy something while still seeing its flaws? Are you underage?