It seems like they want terrains to be more of a thing this gen,

I can see that one which stops priority moves being used

Grassy Terrain will be a nightmare with a Bulu/Heatran/Toxapex core

I wish they made more Terrains.

>>29782513
seriously need atleast 3~4 fairy checks/counters this gen. Grassy Terrain looks to be the best stallwise. Priority won't be as effective, because of no talon and sucker punch nerf

>>29782572
Sucker nerf?

>>29782595
sucker punch is 70 bp now

I mean they even have an item called terrain extender so

>>29782611
depends, the other tapus will be common so the terrain's can change alot. I belive Tapu Bulu is the slowest so it's terrain will actually be active if 2 tapus are in play.

>>29782513
SD Excadrill still wins, unless one of them has a Scarf.

>>29782712
against this core sure, but how will if fare against 90% of the other mons.

>>29782324
I just hope these terrain setting abilities get some distribution next gen, like what happened with the weather setting abilities. That, and room setting abilities.

>>29782712
Does he OHKO all of them with EQ after an SD, or is it forced to run Drill Run instead? Remember, Grassy Terrain halves EQ damage, Heatran probably still gets fucked but Toxapex might do better.

>>29782513
Bulu/Heatran/Toxapex/Aegislash

looks deadly

what could round this out

>>29782915
Skarmory

>>29782933
Terrains only work on things that stand on it.

>>29782904
>with EQ
Not Bulu, no, but that one takes Iron Head instead.

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex in Grassy Terrain: 257-304 (84.5 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
It goes up to 75% with rocks or spikes.

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tapu Bulu: 502-593 (145.9 - 172.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Tapu Bulu can live an unboosted Iron Head, but it still needs to get through the flinch bullshit and hit Excadrill hard.

252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Heatran in Grassy Terrain: 333-395 (86.2 - 102.3%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
Heatran doesn't even live an unboosted Earthquake.

>>29782944
Just like you don't need all your team members to benefit from weather if they otherwise fill a hole in your team, Skarmory is a decent choice for Earthquake IMMUNITY.

>>29782944
yeah but that terrain is gonna keep changing if other tapus can come in. you need a some non terrain dependent stuff. with evilote nerf, we need a solid neutral special wall.

>>29782915
slowbro

>>29782472
That's the Psychic terrain. There's also a hold item that gives Psychic types a special defense boost I think.

>>29783122
but who are going to be the main priority users now?

>>29783013
do you think tapus are allowed? arent they legendaries

>>29783225
>do you think tapus are allowed? arent they legendaries
And? By your logic genies should be banned and they are everywhere. Are you daft?

>>29783225
They are not broken by any means, so they are perfectly viable. Some of the Ubs tho I have suspect

>>29782572
no talon? talonflame is in the alola dex

>>29782324
I'm using Electric Terrain ARaichu so much I think I'll solo the fucking game with it

>>29783304
Talonflame gor murdered m8

>>29783225
Do you think Suicune, Zapdos, Terrakion, Landorus and such aren't allowed?

>>29783304
something something gale wings only work at full health something.

nothing major, don't worry.

>>29783013
how did evolite get nerfed?

>>29783942
>>29783942
Apparently only 20% now.

I missed weather wars.

>>29783225
tapu are not 600+ bst legends

>>29783958
I still think this is a hoax

>>29783013
>we need a solid neutral special wall.
What's wrong with the bigger egge?