>okayish Attack >low Speed >HA is nothing new But after

>>29764938
I personally don't care about it not being fast, I never thought he'ld be.
I'm way more upset about Vikavolt and some others.

intimidate makes it incredibly bulky and defensive fire types can be very effective with hazard control.

give it WoW too and it is an excellent physical wall with a decent attack to boot

>>29765080
That's actually pretty cool. Seems like he won't be Emboar 2.0 "b-but I'm not Fire/Fighting!" after all. More love for the evil tiger wrestler

I'm more pissed off not one of the starters are fast this gen, what the fug. They're all shit slow.

>>29764938
It's cool.
Nowhere near as broken as Greninja or anything like that, but kitty will probably find a nice nich in UU/RU.

>>29765080
Sort of like an alternate Arcanine, in some ways. Maybe we can slap Rocky Helmet and Leech Life for survivability.

>>29764938
He's not bat, He's UU like Arcanine. You have to realize the most people on /vp/ are shit at Pokemon. BigBlackOtaku's Honchkrow proved that. Its the same reason most people complain about smogon and shit, because they're stuck in the bottom rung because they're shit.

/vp/ has made plenty of predictions about viability (based on stats and shit) and are constantly wrong. Most people here can't understand the idea of a Pokemon not being a fast sweeper.

I mean, just look at how many people think Wimpod evo is bad.

>>29765343
I can see this thing sitting in RU. Maybe BL2. Thing is, Arcanine has a generally better movepool. Incineroar can't use a defensive set as well because it gets worn down by rocks. Offensive set, I'm not as sure about. It can probably blow through things better with Swords Dance if it can set one up. Having secondary STAB is nice too. But that speed really sucks and it has to rely on subpar coverage options like Cross Chop.

He learns fake out and has intimidate, perfect for doubles the only metagame that matters.

Also,
>Rimbombee learns Speed Switch

>>29765080
Or just use Arcanine who doesn't have a fighting weakness and isn't slower than Skarmory

>>29764938
>what is trick room
>what is stab sucker punch

>>29766594
>Sucker Punch
Anon...

>>29766594
It doesn't get Sucker Punch.

Other than that, we'll just have to work with what we have. Decent bulk, good attack and nice offensive typing.

>>29766683
>a whole Pokémon line ruined for the sake of the heel concept
>doesn't even get the best dirty fighting move
I can't even deal with this gen. Of course everything turned out great for autismseal.

What moves does it learn that torracat doesn't?
Because the only other shit it has going for it is base hp, zmove or choice shenanigans and psychic immunity when compared to eviolite torra w/ that 90 speed.

Look at all you guys pretending your cat will be good. It's adorable

>>29764938
After revealing HA, I'm more interested in Torracat with evolite than Incineroar.

>Intimidate
>90 speed
>85atk/85sp.atk
>Evolite
>Mono fire

This thing is looking pretty good, If only it got access to reliable recovery like Morning Sun it'd be superior to Arcanine.

Not sure if without recovery move this set can work?

>>29764938
>No drain punch
>No sucker punch

>>29767110
>>29766952
You do know that Eviolite got nerfed, right?

Honestly I died inside a bit. Now there's just hoping I turns out to be ok. I needs to be okay. I need it. Please

>>29767681
By how much?

>>29767681
I heard that was a meme.

>>29767601
It learns leech life tho.

>>29767731
From 50% to 20%, supposedly.

>>29767870
I hope so.

>>29767110
Problem is that torracat learns nothing to deal with rock types while baracat gets ground and fighting moves.

I'm having a hard time justifying running a defensive set with leech life, it could WoW but it's speed means nothing when walled by any rock type.

It also gets rest, I think it has utility as a crippler, would be better if it learned parting shot.

>>29764938
>people mention leech life as recovery
Just use a Wish passer like big luvdisc or Vaporeon