Best Alola starter confirmed? Liquid Voice - Turns all sound

>>29760475
Best of a pile of shit, managed to be the worst Water / Fairy. GF went out of their way to make her bad.

>>29760624
>her
I fucked up

Liquid Voice is all but confirmed for no damage boost, thus making it absolutely useless.

Otherwise it is a special attacker with no speed. It'll be lower UU at best.

>>29760475
can't wait for the primarina plushes

>>29760624
>That feelaroni when I already knew they'd screw her up bad despite the typing

Because no one learned from Delphox apparently

Because no one learned not to have high expectations regarding stats and shit

Because no one learned not to hype up your own starter because you "think" it's going to be hot shit when it's simply shit

>Slowest Generation This Gen

>>29760716
Except the STAB boost, you know like with what made Pixelate Sylveon relevant

>>29761384

But scald exists and is more useful

>>29761384
What made Pixilate Sylveon relevant is that Pixilate gives a damage boost. Hyper Voice does not. Torrent is a better HA than it. And it's useless.

>>29760475
>Ice Beam
Alright
>Psychic
Why?
>Moonblast
Alright
>Pump
Why? Scald exists.
>Screens
Ok.
>Rest
Laughable compensation for an actual healing move
>Hyper Voice
Just use scald
>Dazzling Gleam
Just use Moonblast
>Energy Ball
For what?

Held item: Big Root

Aqua Ring
Echoed Voice
Moonblast
Ice Beam

>>29761768
Psychic is to hit through Poisons. Energy Ball is to hit through Waters.

>>29761768
>>Hyper Voice
>Just use scald
But scald can't go through substitute.

>>29762414
Hyper Voice can't burn

>>29762131
If you use Psychic, you're giving up either screens or Rest, which are far more important than hoping to hit something that will likely outspeed and KO it before Primarina does anyway.
Moonblast STAB > Energy Ball anyway

>>29762414
Then have fun getting cucked by Scizor, lad

>>29762439
But that won't surprise anyone.

I want the kid at the mall to think I'm cheating when he gets out his wall.

Primarium Z
This is a crystallized form of Z-Power.
It upgrades Primarina’s Sparkling Aria to a Z-Move.

So, what is this custom Z-Move gonna be?

>>29761946
Wouldn't Leftovers be better?

>>29762554
>Rest
>important
Best Primarina can do is Leftovers/Big Root + Aqua Ring.

>>29760475
>87.5% male

literally gayboi the seal

>>29762780
Have fun getting fucked by Scizor/Conkeldurr, then.

>>29762722
>Oceanic Operetta: Deals damage and heals all status effects and stat changes

>>29762722
It's called Oceanic Operetta

>>29762850
>use Rest
>get fucked by Scizor/Conkeldurr while asleep
Primarina is fucked no matter what you have on it.

>>29762850
>Scizor/Conkeldurr
Who's gonna even put old Pokemon in their team? It's so boring to use the same mons every gen.

>>29762902
>and stat changes
Nice, so it's a debuff in case the pokemon survives.

>>29762794

Wasn't that already settled in the beginning though.

>There were people who thought they'd change the gender ratio

I'm gonna have fun witnessing people go through the same 5 minute cutscene every time only for a male Popplio and seeing them soft reset every time

for those who accomplish the job, great job, it takes bloody fucking patience.

>>29760475
>no boom burst
GF c'mon

>>29762966
Sorry, I made a mistake.

>Oceanic Operetta: Deals damage and heals all status effects and negative stat changes

>>29763077
Where did you even get this from because the pastebin mentions nothing of the sort?

>Oceanic Operetta
>The user, Primarina, summons a massive amount of water using its Z-Power and attacks the target with full force.
>Water
>Special
>195 Power
>1 PP
>Adjacent Pokémon

>>29762966
>Who's gonna even put old Pokemon in their team?
Considering how shitty most of the pokemon are this gen? Probably most people.

>>29762985
Or you could just use PkHex like people with a brain. Or better yet, box it as soon as possible because it's garbage. Or pick one of the other slightly better starters.

>>29762985
>I'm gonna have fun witnessing people go through the same 5 minute cutscene every time only for a male Popplio and seeing them soft reset every time
The worst thing is, they don't even show you the sex on the nickname screen.

Imagine naming your starter johnny and then it's a female.

>>29763147
>Or better yet, box it as soon as possible because it's garbage. Or pick one of the other slightly better starters.

Is this bait?

>>29763147
>Or you could just use PkHex like people with a brain
Gamefreak likes to punish honest people.
What's the point when their games are literally hacked to death everytime before they even release.

>>29763207
>Imagine naming your starter johnny and then it's a female.
Considering it's a male pokemon, I wouldn't worry about that.

>>29763207
>The worst thing is, they don't even show you the sex on the nickname screen.
Wait, what? Why not? They do in the other gens.

>>29763476
I don't know.

Didn't for me in the emulator, or I was just too stupid to find it.

>>29763207
>They don't even show you the sex on the nickname screen

Wait, they don't?

Well, that's kinda fucked up, but I might just go for a nickname that goes either way for my starter, I never liked having gender-based nicknames/names unless they sorta fit.

>>29760475
Post the fucking BSTs/Moves, so we can say if it's good or not.

>>29762554
>implying im not running specs

>>29763207
What? Yes it does. The little gender arrow is right there.

>>29760475
dead bird is better. Gay seal is just another bad bulky water mon in a sea of other bad bulky water mons, except it's part fairy.

>>29763699
>specs
>any value on Primarina
kek

I know you want to try and make it usable, but that is simply impossible.

>>29762850
>get fuck by Scizor.
How?

>>29765004
Maybe someone should do the calculations?

>>29758355
How about bold nature with assault vest, and the moves scald, moonblast, ice beam and psyquic?
Max EVs on special attack and the rest is spread on HP and defense.

>>29763514
Too stupid. It's there.

Got a fem pop first try.

>>29760475
So it doesn't get a boost from Liquid Voice? Source?

What's the fucking point then?

>>29763907
If specs sylveon work primarina will too.

>>29765435
Confirmed that it doesn't. -ate moves now get it added in their description that they get boosted damage. Liquid Voice doesn't say that.

Also there isn't one, aside from letting you know that GF fucking hates this pokemon and wants to shit on it as much as possible.

>>29765968
Source on the -ate moves?

That just doesn't add up. It's literally not even an ability at that point.

I'm starting to hate Game Freak as much as I hate Sakurai. And let me tell you I hate Sakurai a lot.

>>29760624
>worst Water / Fairy
>Azumarill is a physical attacker
>Tapu Fini is a tank mon
>tranny is a sp attacker

w0t?

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>>29762985
>mfw I just did exactly that

>>29766039
https://projectpokemon.org/research/sunmoon/gametext.txt
Every -ate move now specifically states "The power of those moves is boosted a little." Liquid Voice does not. It doesn't get a boost so as you say, it's not even an ability. Primarina will run Torrent.

>>29766235
>ctrl+f liquid voice
>just find the ability name, nothing else
???

>>29766101
Those both do their job well. If I wanted a good special attacker I would use something that is fast.

>>29766362
Then you aren't comparing the Water/Fairy mons.

>>29766316
ctrl+f moves become

>Liquid Voice
>All sound-based moves become Water-type moves.
>Pixilate
>Normal-type moves become Fairy-type moves. The power of those moves is boosted a little.
etc.

>>29766392
So? As special attacker its still garbage.

>>29766481
So you can't say it is the worst Water/Fairy.
You can say it is a garbage sp attacker though.

>>29766235
It still gets stab, stupid.

It's a much better Surf because it hits both opponents (Hyper Voice) but not your side, and it bypassses Substitutes.

>>29766515
Not him but I'll say it; it's a garbage special attacker. And a garbage special tank. And garbage in general.

>>29766515
I can say it is the worst water/fairy. Azumarill isn't completely outclassed by another Pokemon. Primarina is.

>>29766515
>>29766608
125 SpA with Energy Ball/Ice Beam/Moonblast/Scald isn't that bad of a special attacker.

Bulky specs will be it's default set. Will be excellent in RU.

>>29766761
It is when said special attacker is too slow and not tanky enough to take a hit.

Also
>excellent in RU
Being in RU means it is the opposite of excellent. It means "Box this fucking thing as soon as possible and get something that is actually usable!"

>>29762966
>It's so boring to use the same mons every gen
Somehow I doubt that you used every single fully evolved mon.

>>29766761
>>29766801
This is gonna drop to UU minimum with a Water / Fairy typing. But every special attacker in OU this gen can do what it did better.

>>29766801
>unusable

Now you're just shitposting.

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>Nature: Modest
>Female (male)

>>29766801
Owlfags everyone.

They're in heavy denial right now.

>>29767006
Pardon?

>>29766934
>>29767012
He wasn't the one that said it would be in RU.

Literally shittier than Milotic and gets hard walled by Mantine-Neo the new god of UU.

>>29766933
Water / Fairy isn't good enough to save it from how awful it is. It'll be RU at best.

>>29766934
Why do you think the tier is called "RU"? I guess technically it isn't unusable but rather "Only usable among shitmons that no one would ever want to use anyway."

When did the smogon fags become so prevalent?

How do I start a new game after I already started? Wanna change my starter.

>>29767109
Always here. VGC is alola only, so Tapus are already the best of it.

>>29767145
Delete the .cia and reinstal =^)