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LEVITATE GOT REPLACED WITH CURSED BODY HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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LEVITATE GOT REPLACED WITH CURSED BODY

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

source: https://twitter.com/Kaphotics/status/796013713169911814
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also:

>hail swift swim
>my bro beartic gets it

fuck yes

>one new weather setter for each weather
>pelipper, torkoal, gigalith and vanilluxe
>the legendary cats now have fucking inner focus instead of their actual good ha's

>some actual fucking stat buffs instead of the +10 crap gen 6 pulled
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Are you ok OP
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>>29748735
WHY
GENGAR NOO
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>yfw it's still OU

There's no unseating the greatest pokemon ever
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>>29748801
What was the fucking point of nerfing the beasts, though

They weren't even broken with their HAs
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>>29748801
>legendary cats
Who?
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>>29748904
>changed the HAs all to inner focus
What the actual fuck
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>>29748735
And there goes Gengar's unbroken OU streak.
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>>29748735
>https://twitter.com/Kaphotics/status/796013713169911814

>New weather settings
Fuck yes
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Fuck gengar

FARFETCHD GOT BUFFED WOOOHOOOO
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RIP Gengar
1996-2016

FeelsBadMan
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>my bro got nerfed for no reason
>GF is clueless so it'll take a decade plus and minimum to change it back.

bullshit
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>Implying this will make him drop from OU.
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>>29748735
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Why do people hate ganger all the sudden?
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Oh my god, Swellow can actually do shit with boomburst now. Volbeat and Illumise become even better prankster users, Chimecho has actual stats. AND FARFETCH'D. I'm more excited about the old mons than I am the new ones, way to go gamefreak
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>they could have nerfed Landorus
>they could have nerfed Thundurus
>they could have nerfed Talonflame
>they could have nerfed M-Kangaskhan
>they could have nerfed P-Groudon
>they could have nerfed P-Kyogre
>they could have nerfed M-Salamence
>they could have nerfed Greninja
>they could have nerfed Blaziken
>they could have nerfed Garchomp
>they could have nerfed M-Rayquaza
>they could have nerfed anything worthy of being nerfed

>but instead they nerfed fucking Gengar (who were completely harmless, even in VGC) and the fucking legendary beasts.

FUCKING

WHY
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>>29748963
STARMIE
T
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>>29748904
To counter Fake Out in Vgc
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>>29750090
they did nerf m-kangaskhan actually, parental bond's second attack now does 1/4th of the damage instead of half
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>>29750213
Oh, that's good news actually.

But even so, Gengar did not deserve a nerf.
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>>29749010
Happy 20th
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>>29750275
>progressively getting better every gen
>decide to change it one gen
get over it
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>>29750090
They nerfed smeargle too
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>>29749971
Gengar is my favorite pokemon, them nerfing him is killing me right now.
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>>29750090
OF ALL THE FUCKING THINGS TO NERF, THEY NERF THE ONE THING THAT DIDNT DO ANYTHING. FUCKING GAMEFREAK WHAT THE HELL
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>>29748801
Oh yeah, Arbok and Farfetch'd are now OU potential, thanks to their +20 attack boost. THANKS JOHN GAMEFREAK.
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>>29750411
>clearly seen levitating
>retconned
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>>29748735
>My bro pelliper got buffed and got Drizzle
>My bros Dodrio, Magcargo,and Crustle also get buffed.
>Gengar got a nerf
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My first legit bred team had a gengar as its mega. Im not afraid of gengar, I fucking praise and respect gengar.
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>>29748735
Honestly i'm pretty sad. Seems unnecessary.
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>>29748735
>new pokemon suck
>america sucks
>making my favorite mon suck

Welp, it's been real. Good bye cruel world.
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You guys are dumb or just don't play competitive.

Losing levitate won't drop Gengar from OU.
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>>29750666
You should be crying for having such shit bro's, even after buff
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WHY WOULD THEY NERF GENGAR OF ALL THINGS, THE FUCKING GENIES AND PROTEAN STILL EXIST

>>29750803
Yes it will nigga, its already struggling in OU WITH Levitate. And considering how bulky UU will be this gen, it will dip into RU
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Gengar will go back to OU when the sword and marshadow are banned. I-it can still absorb toxic spikes
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>>29750090
Nintendo sucks at competitive balance. It's like when they nerfed Greninja in Smash 4 repeatedly even when nobody fucking played greninja
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>>29750888
>nintendo
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>>29750090
Hahahaha
Fuck off

Gengar has been the recipient to various buffs for 6 gens straight. It's about time GF slaps its shit
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>>29749011
>ou literally forever
>mega in ubers
">nerfed for no reason"
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>>29750939
>Gengar getting a nerf
>Gengar
>In a game where fucking Primals, Mega Mence, AND FUCKING Genies exist
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>>29751029
This. Gengar has a fucking LOT of counters. He's comfy to use, has a good typing and a good ability. That's all.
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>>29750851
>Protean
Fuck, now I am scared. What if Gamefreak had the audacity to nerf Greninja by messing with Protean? Can someone go check?
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was ariados buffed
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>>29748735
So what happens when I bring my XY Gengar to SM? Does it keep Levitate?
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>>29752012
Nope
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>>29752012
Nah, its going to get overwritten. Best Mon is going to rot in RU. RIP
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>>29752025
Well that's unfortunate. Thanks Game Freak. As if the Tree wasn't a big enough blow today.
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>>29748735
Levitate never made any fucking sense on it desu.

Still dumb to change it now.
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Did Excadrill get nerfed ?
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>>29751951
Yep
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My poor Gengar.
Also Nappy's gonna be pissed I bet.
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>>29752185
What a terrible buff. Poor Ariados. Especially when a lot of the other buffs were good.
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>>29750213
>>29750090
>they could have nerfed M-Kangaskhan
Power-Up Punch lost its TM status, so that move will be gone for VGC as well.
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>>29750851
Nah. Quit talking out of your ass, noob.


Guys, don't listen to this. This person doesn't play competitive.
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>>29752185
>they just buffed special defense by 10
are they fucking high? it could have used literally anything else.
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>>29748912
the legendaries that every retard calls dogs
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>>29750411
How is Gengar in the sky like that when It can't levitate?
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>>29748801
Snow Ninetale also has Snow Warning
Who would have thought that the Hawaii gen would be the most generous to Ice types
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>>29752406
I call them beasts
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>>29748735
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Gengar will still be OU even without levitate
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Why the fuck are all of abilities Cursed Body when they removed Levitate? Stupid Gamefreak.
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>>29750165
>Not giving them 3 abilities instead
GF are a bunch of retards
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>>29751016
Well shit son lets nerf everything in OU then! No, only centralizing forces deserve a nerf bat. Gengar has been viable, but not centralizing since I don't know when. It's ok to be viable.

Shadow tag is an entirely different issue.
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>>29752763
Doubt it. It has even less switching-in options, now that it's gained another weakness. Not to mention it was already struggling in. Adding to the fact its current ability is shit since it's chance based and Gengar is frail to the point it cant take a hit to capitalize on the opponent's disabled move.

Dream is dead, happy 20th anniversary,.
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>>29752185
Guys what if all the mons that got stat buffs are getting megas?

>Tfw
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>>29748888
Quads of truth confirm it. Gengar will be OU forever.
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>>29753023
It's already been confirmed that we're having no new megas.
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So if we transfer Gengar from the R/B/Y or any of the other games, its ability gets changed?
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>>29753343
Yes. When BW Scolipede with HA was transferred to XY, its HA was replaced.
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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!!

FUCKING NERFED!!!!!!!

NEW META NEW META NEW META
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>>29748993
How desu? Can I finally use him?
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>trade a gengar from X/Y
Don't see the big deal.
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>>29752290
it gets a exclusive move
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So basically I have no reason to not use Mega Gengar?
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Why use Gengar over Aegislash now?
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>>29753577
It will be overwritten. Levitate will only be usable if you still play XYORAS.
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>>29748735
Literally why? Are GF retarded or what?
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since gengar got nerfed and farfetchd got buffed will ledian/delibird/some other shitmons get any viable?
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>>29755011
Nope. It's just like Alolan mons. Transfer them for the old stats/ability/type
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>they nerfed gengar

I'm not buying the game anymore. I'm not joking either. Gengar is my favorite pokemon, I won't play a game that nerfs him.
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>>29755125
looks like you're done playing pokemon forever then

enjoy OR/AS bro
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>>29755072
No. That would be the case if this was Alolan Gengar, which it isnt.

When Scolipede with HA was transferred to XY, its old HA was replaced with the new one. Same principle applies here.

Gengar had Levitate in all three ability slots, and now all three are replaced with Cursed Body
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>>29755178
Nope. Get fucked. Sorry.
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>>29755205
The denial is real with this one.
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>>29755205
Ok, have fun in denial.
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>>29755048
With it's devastating Shadow Tag, Mega Gengar is one of the most powerful pokemon.
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>>29752185
Is that it? Are there more changes?
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>>29748735
Literally why

Let's acknowledge that GF doesn't give two shits about smogon or single battles in general and disregard the fact that even WITH levitate, gengar is niche at best in OU, and disregard that Aegislash is a million times better in Battlespot

What the fuck is regular gengar doing in their VGC? And whatever it's doing, why is taking away it's ground immunity the solution? Is the notorious scrub strat of EQ with a ground immunity partner really shaking up their meta so much that they feel this will help?
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>>29755360
So? How does that affect Gengar?
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>>29750645
>>29752428
>magnemite
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>>29750090
they nerfed them by making 1) Megas not available in VGC 17
2)Tao Trio is not part of the regional dex, so no VGC 17 either
3)Primals not part of regional dex, no vgc 17
4)Greninja, Blaziken also not part of regional dex, no vgc 17
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>>29755601
fuck smogon and fuck single battles you pokewhore. yokai is rising while pokemon continues to die scrub.eat it.
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>>29755601
>What the fuck is regular gengar doing in their VGC?
Glass cannon and, this may surprise you, fast Trick Room last season.
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>>29756019
was levitate crucial to that strat?
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>>29755611
He's literally talking about him you mong
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>>29748735
Lucky we have shadow tag
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One of us had to go, old friend. I told them you deserved it.
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>>29748735
NOT LIKE THIS
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>>29750411
Why's everyone acting like Gengar's never had a ground weakness before? Your bro took damage from Ground attacks for two whole generations before he mysteriously stopped.
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>>29756057
No it doesn't you fucking shill. There's literally no reason for the nerf other than GF being retarded.
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Does Cursed Body activate behind a Sub?

Because if so, do you guys remember Substitute + Disable Gengar? He's not only going to make a return, but he's going to fucking break OU.
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>>29748735
still gonna be OU. i dont see a problem lmao
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>>29756456
It doesn't
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>>29750090
Azumarril lost Belly Drum and Aqua Jet.
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>>29756500
No, that turned out to be false information.
https://twitter.com/KazoWAR/status/796015665148809216
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>>29756500
no he was just retarded and copied the lowest evos egg moves onto the whole line so it showed them all having azurills egg moves
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>>29756328
Because Ground was another free switch in for him to do what he wants

Excadrill only exists in OU because it prevented a free switch in for Gengar
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Are people overreacting or am I missing something other than not getting a free switch on ground moves?
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>>29748735
Did Rampardos got buffed?
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>>29756207
They clearly had a battle to settle it.
starmie beat genger by being faster and having psychic stab
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>>29756575
scarf landorus-t is a thing
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>>29756575
Well it's not just the lack of a free switch, it's that switch being a OHKO. Gengar didn't trade an immunity for a neutral, he gained a big weakness.
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>>29750888
Japs played Greninja.
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>>29756047
Groudon-Xerneas was the go to offensive core, and Gengar could switch in to avoid precipice blades.
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>>29756328
and he got fucked up by EQ in both gens and the only reason he was OU is because of how Stat exp meant everything was a lot bulkier in general so it didn't have to worry about getting BTFO by a neutral hit from anything and everything, and there were no natures, meaning Attacking stats didn't have 1.1 boosts to damage, and there were no choice items or LO, meaning damage was lower, and spikes were a lot more prevalent, meaning having a spinblocker was a necessity (gen 2 anyway) whereas in gen 1 his effective SpDef was a lot higher and he was the fastest sleeper in a gen where sleep was even more broken than ever, and he had bolt/beam coverage coming off his special attack when bolt/beam was hands down the best offensive coverage in the game, and he had access to explosion when it halved the defense of mons it exploded on

As the gens moved on, he basically lost his bolt/beam coverage, boom power, bulk, sleep setter, and eventually, when spikes usage dropped, his use as a spinblocker waned to niche due to all the OTHER BETTER mons that have levitate

They keep robbing this nigga for no fucking reason
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>>29756207
YOU SON OF A BITCH STARMIE
I THOUGHT WE HAD AN ARRANGEMENT
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>>29752406
they are canon known as the legendary beasts
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>>29751878
i mean they're giving us a "BattleBond" greninja and changing water shuriken to special, as well as boosting it's power with the ability, so they're trying to change it up at least
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How will Starmie and Zapdos get nerfed in gen 8?
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>>29756575
You're missing a bit.

Firstly, Gengar lacks defense in general, so it prefers coming in on immunities rather than a "resisted" hit. It had a choice of 3/17 types to come in on before, while now it only has 2/17 types to come in on.

Combine that with the fact that EQ is still, 7 generations later, one of the most used moves of all time, and you have a lot of chances to switch Gengar in.

Secondly, having immunity to Ground was pretty necessary for Gengar, as a lot of Pokemon he switched in to counter only carried EQ + another move that Gengar would resist. As frail as he is, even he can survive most resisted attacks, and he'll be able to hit you twice before you hit him twice.

So now Gengar can't switch be used to combat a lot of Pokemon that he could previously, which will drop his usage quite a bit.

Now, with his Sp. Atk and Spd I can't actually see him leaving OU, but he'll drop to bottom and maybe even be BL for the first time ever.
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WHY WERE GENGAR AND THE BEASTS THE ONLY ONES NERFED? Honestly, there are a lot more broken things in the game, but they nerfed the ONLY 4 THAT NEVER DID ANYTHING.
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>>29748735
its HA faggot
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>>29756712
how did it threaten them back though? I mean, I get that it does but out of those 3, gengar seems like the weakest of the three, and if Groudon Xerneas are the go to offensive core, then why would you want to REMOVE a counter? Wouldn't that only make Groudon-Xerneas MORE prevalent, reducing variation in the meta, doing the exact OPPOSITE of what balancing is supposed to do?
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>they're actually nerfing pokemon for this gen
What a world
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>>29756903
>how did it threaten them back though
He literally OHKO'd.
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>one of my best friends is dodging all the leaks
>Gengar is his favorite pokemon
Oh God I've got to keep the news from him for two weeks, this will be brutal.
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>>29756830
>Zapdos
nothing
>Starmie
Mega Starmie with Regenerate
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>>29756951
>they're not nerfing cancer like the genies

What a world indeed
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>>29752185
What the fuck? Torkoal has Drought now? I'm kind of happy by that
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>>29756976
by them, i meant the opponent

he scares out xerneas, but he can't set up and doesn't apply nearly as much offensive pressure to the opponent otherwise, especially compared to Xerneas, and I doubt he can OHKO much else (well, psychic types sure but not the rest of the tier, I'm sure)

whereas Xerneas can boost and sweep I'm sure almost everything in the game. I understand Gengar's good in that situation but I'm failing to see why Gengar is the one in need of a nerf for being able to threaten out a mon
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>>29756019
>fast trick room
>priority -7
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>implying that this will kill gengar

Reminder that gengar was OU in RBY and GSC without EVEN HAVING AN ABILITY
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>>29750939
The game getting better around him nerfs Gengar already, he didn't need anything added to that.

And not giving him a Hidden Ability is retarded.
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>>29757370
>>Reminder that gengar was OU in RBY and GSC without EVEN HAVING AN ABILITY
Wow it's almost like those were completely different metas or something.
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>>29756846
He dropped to BL in gen 3.
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>>29757429
Yeah

SM will have a new meta as well :^))))))
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>>29757370
Nothing had an ability. He's competing with things that have abilities, and in general are much stronger than what was available then.
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>>29756855
That's just it.
The beasts abilities were never released so as far as Game freak is concerned, they never existed to be nerfed in the first place.
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>>29757464
one where he won't be OU
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>>29757370
Yeah, when its gimmick was being the only Ghost type in a game dominated by Normal types
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>>29757357
It's more about putting Trick Room on a mon where others don't expect it to cancel the opposing Trick Room. Don't remember who used that setup.

Will-O-Wisp, Icy Wind or Taunt coupled with Sludge Bomb and Protect was of course more prevalent.
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>>29748735
This aggression shall not stand.
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so did they nerf the fucking genies?
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>>29758193
Why would they nerf the most balanced mons of the meta?
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>>29748735
REEEEEEEEEE
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>Dodrio +10 Speed
>Dugtrio +20 Attack

I wonder if Dodrio will have a niche like Raichu after the speed buff.

Dugtrio is pretty much the Gengar Slayer now.
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