>barafags and mermaidfags trying to convince us that Decidueye

All of the alola starters are dogshit. I thought they couldn't do worse than Kalos but surprise surprise, they did.

There are much better Fire, Grass, Water, Fairy, Dark and Ghost mons to use this gen, why bother with them.

>>29715922
Worst example. Charizard IS Kanto's best starter.
Should have said Greninja.

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>>29715922
>owlfags frantically trying to backpedal after constantly shitposting about how it'll be le fast assassin

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>>29715922
>The most popular of each region is also the best competitively.
Coincidence?

>>29715922
But I am a barafag.
I just think ghost owl looks neat as fuck. I shouldn't have any trouble using him.

>>29716027
>Charizard
>Feraligatr
>Blaziken
>Infernape
>Serperior
>Greninja
Makes you think

>>29716053
>charizard
>typhlosion
>swampert
>any gen 5 starter
>don't care about gen 4 and the only one that really does fit this bill is greninja

>>29716071
Same, another barafag here.
I'm totally fine with Decidueye and will probably use it or Primarina to be honest.

>>29716027
Charizard is the worst starter of not only kanto, but of all starters.

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>>29716011
Holy shit anon, why you want to put your dick in a rock?

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>>29715922
>owlfags constantly spam primarina/incineroar b8 threads
>playing victim now
What did they mean by this?

>>29716047
I'm not gonna lie I'm pretty upset that my chosen starter has shit stats
However what the fuck is this "lel rowletcuck btfo" meme
I haven't seen a single thread or post where rowletfags are shitting on the other starters
You fuckwits look for literally any excuse to shit on a group of people don't you?

>>29716177
>I haven't seen a single thread or post where rowletfags are shitting on the other starters

Are you serious? I'll concede it might be falseflagging, but there have been tons of threads shitting on the other two and claiming Decidueye will be the best competituvely (at least compare to Incineroar, they tend to ignore Primarina).

>>29716047

lmao I already knew he'd be slow

because archers seriously do your damn research

do you see professional archers being speedy as fuck WHILE aiming and shooting their arrows? It takes a very steady aim and years of practice to even accomplish something like that, otherwise, they need to have that one moment of pause to take aim and shoot, unless they're dying to shoot everything but the target

people are just finding new ways to shit their pants over the littlest things

>>29716177
>You fuckwits look for literally any excuse to shit on a group of people don't you?

pretty much

>>29716177
Yes, Rowletfags literally do this on a daily basis.

>>29716177
>I haven't seen a single thread or post where rowletfags are shitting on the other starters
They've been doing that since it was revealed retard.

>>29716275
I'll admit I've probably missed threads where particularly retarded rowletfags shit on the other starters
When talking about competitive though it's always been fairly contained as far as I've seen
This shit really makes me realize how fucking useless /vp/ is though
Nobody actually discusses the stats they just shit on people who don't like the same things

>>29715922
Deliciouseye has the stupidest, most tedious name. The name just signals "not fun".

The name litera

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>>29716177
>I haven't seen a single thread or post where rowletfags are shitting on the other starters
AH
HAH
HAA

>>29716293
>it's realistic, so it's automatically good
I hate this argument so goddamn much.

>>29716119
>i hate popular stuff
Charizard is the best designed starter, most popular starter from the entire franchise and has the best designed megas. Feels good being a charizard fag.

>>29716383
Well, yes.
This are the first stats we have.
Anything before today was just wanking and vitriol.

>>29715922
Nope, Blastoise is.
Feraligatr is the best Johto.
Blaziken is the best Hoenn.
Torterra is the best Sinnoh.
Serperior is the least terrible Unova.
Chesnaught is the best Kalos.
And Incineroar is the best Alola.

>>29716433
No I don't hate popular things just Charizard. It looks like absolute garbage to me.

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>>29716425

I never said it was a good thing, just that I expected it, anon. It's just realistic, plain simple.

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>>29716433
>Charizard
>best designed starter
>best designed megas

>>29716177

Nigga I'm a ghost owl supporter and I have seen a shit ton of threads shitting on the other starters, especially on the water starter.

But despite the shit stat spread I'm not going to abandon ghost owl. The meta-game is too well developed for a pokemon with a 535 base stat to be unsalvageable.

I'll just make it a suicide/ status inflicting mon. Hopefully it's move pool will make up for it.

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>>29716177
>Rowlet fags constantly invade Premarina and Luchalitten thread screaming "MAKE WAY FOR ABEST STAROR!!!"
>"I-I've never seen them do that!"

The meganium tier stat distribution serves you right shit head.

>>29716607
Yeah okay I don't shit on anyone else's choices but it serves me right
This is exactly what I'm talking about you fucking idiot

>>29716053
So that confirms Decidueye being the most competitively viable?

>>29716607
The fuck are you talking about? I'v seen way more shitposts about Rowlet being PU because of shit people were wrong about. Namely "Le Rowlet is Grass/Flying and will never be OU" memes.

>>29716500
Fair enough, guy. Although I don't know why you expected realism in a pokemon game.

>>29716433
>Charizard
>best designed starter

You don't even need to be a hater to know that you're wrong

>>29716724
Probably because you've never gone into a Incineroar/Primarina thread.

>>29716505
You don't like cute bellies

>>29716607
>THIS ONE ROWLETFAG DID THIS TERRIBLE THING SO THAT MEANS EVERYONE SHOULD SUFFER
You are finding excuses to express your hate.

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>>29716667
S E R V E S Y O U R I G H T .
>>29716724
>little hoot never OU
And now we know it's true. Fuck you.

>>29716791
>falseflagging rowletfags as being assholes
>Is literally a bigger asshole

>>29716865
The shitposts will go down once the game leaks.

>>29716786
>>ALL THESE ROWLETFAGS DID THIS TERRIBLE THING SO THAT MEANS EVERYONE SHOULD SUFFER
ftfy

>>29716786
>One person from a group does something bad, so people make sweeping generalizations to justify their anger.
Sounds pretty standard. Desu ne.

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>>29716865
>

>>29716607
I actually saw someone post Decidueye once in a primarina thread, but nothing else came from it, or so I remember
The next day, another primarina thread opened up pissy as all fuck and wanted no Decidueye pics, so people posted Decidueye to spite the pissy op, but that's as far as I recall owlfags deliberately pissing people off
Now sealfags have been the spear head for faggot and hatred, and I've seen civil ballio threads completely derailed due to rampant primarinafags talking trash, even though many ballio fags were actually nice people who accepted ALL the designs and had feeling of hatred towards any of them
It's one thing if you wish to get back at some asshole who did something to deliberately piss you off, but it's a whole other thing to ruin people's threads just because, which I've seen sealfags do more of

>>29717425
>Bringing the Ballio threads into mention

I realize most were simply waiting for the inevitable since the artist did come out of the closet, but still grew fond of the design and just wanted to talk about it, there was a period where everyone was nice there and even if shitposting were to be found, it'd either be confronted or ignored. Some Ballio fags were even open enough to let Primarina art from time to time.

But after seeing what happened after the inevitable outcome (which was the reveal of middles and finals) and some (not all) Primarina fans really really pushing it, whether for shitposting or legitimate disdain, I wouldn't be surprised if the ones who were previously supportive of Popplio and both Primarina and the Ballio/Pinnister design (or something resembling it) ditched Popplio altogether if not to remember how actually heinous some (again, not all) of the Primarina fanbase actually were to them and probably chose something different or at best, evolve Popplio to Brionne.

>>29716053
but Decidueye has shit stats

>>29718310
Decidueye isn't the most popular.

>>29716607
>look at this thing I made up! Therefore rowletfags did this thing!

>>29716087
charizard is clearly the most popular and best competitive

infernape is way more popular than swampert

>>29716053
Charizard has literally only being the best competitively in Gen 6 due to blatant Mega favorism. Before that it was Venusaur.

>>29715986
/thread

>>29718439
Nah, Venusaur was only good in gen 1 because of the Toxic/seed glitch. Without that it's soundly beaten by Zard in all other gens.

>>29716496
>>29716505
>>29716758
>my subjective contrarian opinion is fact

Sorry kids, but hating Charizard just because it's popular isn't gonna make it shit. Just accept and move on with your life.

>>29718495
You don't know what you're talking about. You could make an argument for it being better in Gen 2 and 3 but certainly not in Gen 4 and definitely not in Gen 5 where Venusaur was a primary Sun sweeper.

>>29718310
>Still thinking that Decidueye is going to be next Greninja

Tip top kek

>>29718609
>You could make an argument for it being better in Gen 2 and 3 but certainly not in Gen 4 and definitely not in Gen 5 where Venusaur was a primary Sun sweeper
You've never used Venusaur, have you.

>>29718612
Didn't you just agree with him?
Saying it has shit stats doesn't imply he thinks it's the next Greninja
If you're implying that he's stupid for thinking it's the most popular you're still wrong
We've had a ton of strawpolls that Rowlet/Decidueye always won by a landslide
Am I missing something?

>>29718661
>Rowlet/Decidueye always won by a landslide

That's on /vp/, which is far less than even 1% of fanbase; it hardly means anything.

>>29716027
>>29716080
>>29716433
>>29718428
Charizard wasn't the best until they gave it TWO mega evolutions. It became the best because of favoritism to it's cancerous fanbase.

>>29718720
I guess you're right
I don't really have anything to say to that

>>29717425
Good lord that's some serious headcanon you got there. Mind telling me what you're smoking to perceive things that way?

>>29715986
>Fire

>Waifub8
>Shitmon birb
>Ugly turtule
>Agreed on this

>Grass

>Not 1, BUT 2 WAIFUBAITS
>Based Bulu(Agreed)
>Egxeccumeme(Agreed)

>Water

>Agreed
>Agreed
>Agreed

>Fairy

>''Into the PU it goes''
>AYY LMAO
>ONE, STAGE, SHITMON
>Mimikyu da QT(Agreed)
>All tapus(Agreed)
>TOTALLY AGREED

>Dark

>Just 4 Shitty Alolan forms(Gimmer and Muk are exeptions)

>Ghost

>See mimikyu
>See marowak
Prove you wrong(Almost)

>>29719045
Also on ghost
>Shitmon Birb AGAIN

>>29715922
Technically until gen 6 by that metric Venusaur would be the best starter not charizard

>>29715986
But the Kalos starters are all excellent? Probably the best group of starters we have. Alola also gets 2/3, with Incineroar (God, that name is cringey too) dragging them down

I just hope we get some non-humanoid starters next gen. It's getting old.

>>29720279

I don't like how Incineroar sounds so much like Emboar. I would have preferred something different. Beltigre now sounds like a top notch name to me and I didn't even like that nickname that much.

>>29720279
>with Incineroar (God, that name is cringey too) dragging them down

Nah he's the best of the bunch

>>29716177
Its just a vocal minority, all the furries choosing Primarina are desperate for a reason to shit on Decidueye.

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>>29718391
>y-you made that up!!
It is the truth, meme arrows won't change the truth.

>>29716080
You just made me realize that, with the exception of Charizard, my favorite starter of each gen is also the most viable.

>>29720566
It's just the kinda thing that happens around here. If something's bad, people are gonna shitpost about it no matter what it is. Personally, I'd rather have more reasons to shit on Incineroar but I doubt that'll happen.

>>29715922
Nah i like bulba. I'm picking Baracat too

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>>29715922
>There are people who unironically think Decidueye will be bad competitively just because it has shit speed

If Decidueye doesn't make it OU, I'll stream myself shoved a Baracat up my ass. Screencap this.

>>29718544
It literally has nothing to do with popularity. I just don't like its design.

>>29715922
Let me guess, you were one of those Rowletcucks who kept saying "Decidueye will be the best competitively! You'll see!" but now that we've seen Decidueyes stats you are trying to backpedal by saying that competitive doesn't matter.

>>29720716
Well it certainly doesn't have the defenses to be a tank.

>>29715922
When did Charizard become competitive? That nigga's 4x weak to Stealth Rocks!

>>29720773
When it got amazing Megas.

>>29720798
You mean after they banned all the amazing Megas, and all that was left was the shitty 4x weak to Rocks Charizard and his Megas.. -.-

>>29718544
I don't hate Charizard tho, it just looks too fat for its wings to do anything

>>29720716
Unless it gets a stupid broken HA, it won't.

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>>29715922
>never shat on either starter
>actually like all three of them
>autistic owlfags and trolls jumped on the "next grenigger" shitpost train
>just want the owl because owls are cool
>/vp/ will now constantly meme arrow me for liking Rowlet
Thanks autists, you just had to ruin my fun again like always.

>>29716607
By this logic then all 3 starters deserve to be shit because all 3 do this.

>>29720876
Not the same anon, but show me a Dragon-type with realistically sized wings. Actually, not even a Dragon-type. Any Pokemon that whose primary type isn't flying.

>>29720978
>Any Pokemon that whose primary type isn't flying.
You should've added
>Doesn't look like a bird.

>tfw you aren't a """professional""" pokemon player
>tfw you don't throw shit in hotel hallways
>tfw you aren't the Anthony Burch of gaming
Feels good

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>>29716433
Gee, I wonder who could be behind this post.

>>29715922
>before Decidueye's stats were revealed
"He'll be the best competitively don't worry guys I'm sure of it"

>after its stats were revealed to be shit
"Guys competitive doesn't matter"

Fucking hate owlfags

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>Charizard has shit design
>Placed the 9th on last popularity poll

Sure, everyone who voted was either a normie, or had shit taste. It's not you who is a contrarian, it's them.

>>29721287
>One guy's opinion suddenly counts as everyone's opinion

Nice opinion.

>>29715922
Decidueyes is the Charizard of gen 7.

>>29721682
Have you not seen all of the Owlfags who swore Decidueye was the next Grenigger who now say that competitive doesn't matter and shit, or are you just autistic?

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>>29715922
Are people making shit up, or are the base stats for the starters really out?

>>29722357
A leaker posted a screenshot of Dartix's stats, and its highest were HP, Def, and Sp. Def. It has a lower Speed than a Quilladin of the same level.

>>29722326

I actually called him out on being a Greninja once, but not competitive-wise (like having a ability that gives him great advantage like Protean did for Greninja), merely on the popularity aspect, because I knew things could go different for him.

I'd rather wait on more stats information or heck, an actual copy rather than jump and call him this or that, same to the other two. Might not be too different from what people are assuming, but still.

>>29722484
My point has always been that Owlfags who cared about competitive stats before it SEEMED like Decidueye would be shit tier, who now say competitive doesn't matter, are annoying as fuck.

It might get the Greninja treatment, but I'm leaning towards Incineroar getting it, based on the screenshots where we see it fully evolved back when they were first leaked.