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So we finally have a good idea of what the starters stat distribution

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So we finally have a good idea of what the starters stat distribution is gonna be (if there are no wild changes).

Stats in white: calculated averages from the trailers/leaks using Showdown Calculator.

Stats in black: calculated based on multiplying the previous evolution stats by the same number to reach certain BST benchmarks (420 1st evo, 535 2nd evo).
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fast, physical fire/dark will be really good with the likely coverage incineroar will get. rip decidueye. primarina gonna be obviously good too.
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>>29711470
>Defensive Water type with low HP
I find that unlikely
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>>29711470
>luchalitten continues to be the objectively best choice
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>huge bulky cat
>weaker than thin monkey and kicking bird thing

That seems really weird.
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>>29711686
It's wierd but so is Rowlet and Dartrix huge HP.
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>>29711729
Hell yeah
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>>29711470
And here's the prediction for Toucan.

Pikipek's are probably changed in the demo.
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going straight to NU hehehehe
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>>29711470
>owl getting cucked this hard

HAHAHA KARMA'S A BITCH

For real though, it fucking sucks that it ended up being everything we didn't want it to be. Idk why gamefreak thought making it a slow defensive grass type was good in the first place. Fuck, even MEGANIUM is faster.
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>>29711470
This just makes me want to box my starter
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>>29711470
>poppmaid only has 66 base HP

That si what bothers me.
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>>29712468
Gamefreak makes weird design choices desu
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>>29712358
Wow it's speed doesn't change at all! They have to be changed, no way a stat would go up by 2.
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>>29711470
Kind of wish Primarina had more HP, but Water/Fairy is probably good enough to carry it.
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>>29712742

OP pulled Primarina's HP stat out of his ass.
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>>29713027
No I didn't, it's calculated based on the HP stats of Popplio and Brionne shown in the trailers.
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>>29711470
wow, theyre all shit
its gen 5 all over again
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>>29713061
Do you have the pic of popplio leveling up? I thought it had pretty high hp then.
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>>29713174
I have that pic but this one is more accurate (higher level).
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>>29713222
I remember a level up screen in that german stream thingy,I don't think I can link it though.
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>>29711470
why does incineroar have so much special attack? what the fuck is with gamefreaks mixed attacker fetish for starters?
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>>29711470
>Decidueye can't take or dish out anything
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>>29713385
Every single fire starter, except for Delphox, has been a mixed attacker actually.
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>>29712742
its tanky as fuck, 66hp is acceptable with defenses like that

+1 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 168 Def Primarina: 151-178 (44.9 - 52.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

and still 88 evs and a nature boost to be distributed
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>>29713457
I was about to call bullshit on you and mention emboar but then I went and checked his stats. wtf.
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>>29713385
Because kids can use just whatever they want.

Think if the use FIRE BLAST and BLAST BURN in their starter and doing pitiful damage.
This mostly applies to Fire starters though, most children doesn't even care about Grass or Water, although the latter is pushed every now and then.
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>>29713256
Here.

You're right, this Popplio suposedely has much more base HP (even more than Brionne), but it's way also less accurate (level 8 vs 18).
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>>29713256
Wait what german stream? That was only the battle royal (where they don't evolve).
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>>29713594
a level 8 pokemon with 44 base hp can have up to 27 hp with no evs
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>>29713488
>it can take a resisted hit
Woooooow
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>>29713594
True, though maybe the Brionne had low ivs?
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>>29713665
Basically you can switch into Mega Charizard after it is boosted up and scare it away with your typing you cuck.
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>>29713637
Huh yeah you're right. It has to have 47 base HP at minimum or 24 EVs.

>>29713670
This is also probably right, so take the it with a grain of salt.
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>>29713665
haha yeah you're right anything that resists fire doesn't get 2hko by +1 zard x flare blitz

+1 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 168 Def Milotic: 191-225 (48.4 - 57.1%) -- 45.3% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

+1 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 168 Def Latias: 174-206 (47.8 - 56.5%) -- 35.5% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

yeah and none of them get cucked by dragon claw either so no need for that water/fairy typing that's one of 4 (four) evolved pokemon that resist dragon/fire stab
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>>29713637
>>29713670
>>29713793
Here's the arguably more reasonable version with fixed Popplio and 0 IVs 0 EVs level 18 Brionne
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>>29713995
fuck forgot pic
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>>29714020
Seems reasonable to me. Still weird just how much faster it is than Decidueye
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>60 Speed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4
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>>29712468

>slow defensive grass/ghost

>right into the trash pile with gourgeist and trevenant
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>>29711470
>Incineroar's BST distribution
>Primarina BST distribution

ROWLETFAGS ARE LITTERALLY GOING TO KILL THEMSELVES LMAO
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>>29714157
>yfw your Decidueye gets slapped in the face with Ice Beam from Hau's Primarina before it gets a chance to attack
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>>29714388

>"Picking Rowlet makes the game more challenging so it being shit is actually a good thing!"
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>>29711686
>what is Rotom-Wash
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>Incineroar looks like a tanky pokemon
>built like for Damage
>Decidueye looks like a damage pokemon
>built like a tank
I'm a luchafag, and I'm happy he gets good speed but these designs don't match the stats and it fucking confuses me how they set up these stats. Mainly just decidueye being a fucking tank.
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S I X T Y
Speed

What the actual fuck
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>>29711774
expect something more like 120/80/110 offenses
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>>29716092
It will be priceless if Decidueye ends up being slower than Chesnaught of all pokemon. Fuck, even Dartrix's speed seems to be hinting at that.
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>>29716050
idk Incineroar looks pretty agile to me
you're right on decidueye tho
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