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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>Sun & Moon Anime Information
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/story/
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgAz7gMg35pB_fSF91D0JCZ3uvYkEQC9G

Next episode:
>XY&Z Special 2: The Ultimate Duo! Clemont and Cilan!! [Nov 10th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/

Upcoming episodes:
>S&M1&2 (1 Hour Special) [Nov 17th]
>S&M3&4 (1 Hour Special) [Nov 24th]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>What's the point of watching it anymore?
To enjoy the ride.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
OH SHIT SHE DID IT THE ABSOLUTE MADWOMAN

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>29654831
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XY&Z43 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_043_Zygarde_Fights_Back!_The_Final_Battle_for_Kalos!![H264_720P][1EBFAD05].mkv.torrent

XY&Z44 RAW:
http://pocketmonstersraws.fansub-torrents.com/[PM-RAW]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_044_We_Start_at_Zero!_Citron's_Decision!![H264_720P][1086E7BD].mkv.torrent

XY&Z45 RAW:
http://pocketmonstersraws.fansub-torrents.com/[PM-RAW]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_045_One_Last_Battle_with_Satoshi!_Serena's_Choice!![H264_720P][24B7451C].mkv.torrent

XY&Z46 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=862007

XY&Z47 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=864636

XY&Z SPECIAL 1 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=867058

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z SPECIAL 2: THE ULTIMATE DUO! CITRON AND DENT!! (NOVEMBER 10TH)
>Pokémon Sommelier Dent appears! He works with Citron to save Eureka after she has boarded a runaway subway train!
>Also, the new series finally starts! We have early info for you!!

>Summary:
>In a fishing tournament in Miare City, Citron and Eureka meet the Pokémon Sommelier Dent. Dent tells them he'd like to go to the Prism Tower, so Citron and Eureka decide to guide him. But when Dent requests that they travel via the subway, and accident occurs. A driverless subway train starts moving while Eureka is on board! What will Citron and Dent do!?

>Voice Cast:
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Mamoru Miyano: Dent
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Hitomi Nabatame: Harimaron
>Chika Fujimura: Yanappu
>Kensuke Sato: Bloster
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Shibirudon
>Tsuguo Mogami: Fishing Tournament Staff Member
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 57 (Nov 6th)
>Showing Off the Pokémon that Appear in the New Video Games to Nagano / Everyone has Fun with Mysterious Water You Can Surf On!

POKEMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT COLLECTION VOL 2:
https://my.mixtape.moe/buzdoe.zip

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA
CHAPTER 1: http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
CHAPTER 2: http://imgur.com/a/cGC71
CHAPTER 3: http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1
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Okay
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>Satoshi?! What happened to you? You don't look like the Satoshi I remember...
>You will have to reward me A LOT to make up for this!
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Kissu!
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>>29657857
Sure, posting canon and not some delusions.
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Kissu!
>>29657973
fuck was about to post that
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>>29657937
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Riding to the new thread!
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>>29657553
>>29657562
I don't remember 80% of the episodes in detail (though if I watch an episode list on say bulbapedia I remember the gist of them) and it was quite painful at times, especially around mid Johto and a lot of AG, which felt like it was much too long and boring. Aside from OS and XY obviously, DP was by far the most enjoyable part of the whole thing.

At least now I know how he got every badge, how he did in every league, and how he, as well as every other character met their Pokémon, and how they released some of them. I guess it was sort of worth it.
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>>29657937
I wont be gentle then.
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>>29657973
>posting canon
>not some delusions.
What about this one? --> >>29657992
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>>29657992
Well fuck me, Serena would look cute in SM style.
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>>29657857
ARORA RIRRIE WE HAV FUN TIME??
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>>29657973
Are we posting canon mouth kissus?
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>>29658069
Haha
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>>29658069
Keep dreaming Latias
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>>29658015
What did you think of Tobias?
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>"fuck OFF serenafags, posting kissu all the time"
>anon then makes lillie kissu
>"omg post lillie kissu!!!"
>"but lillie kissu is non canon"
>"w-well serena kissu was on the CHEEK haha btfo"
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>>29658194
Ash loves Pikachu the most anyway
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Posting best girl.
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>>29658214
Will the homolust be strong between him and Ash?
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>>29658167
Of course I knew about him before starting. It was a good league battle.
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>>29657973
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>>29658194
No need to be mad
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>>29658064
>>29658123
>>29658223
Wow too much fun in Arora.
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>>29658324
OTANOSHIMI WA

KORE KARA DA
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>>29657937
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>>29658351
DELETE THIS
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>>29658405
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>>29658433
kinda cute actually
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>>29658405
Even so you would still love him
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>>29657952
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>>29658461
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>>29657857
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>>29658507
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>>29658519
This is what gets me about the "kissu".they just gave the middle finger to all other ships.They just couldn't let people have fun shipping huh?
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>>29658519
Fanart vs Actuality
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>>29658519
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>>29657973
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Time to trot out this old ebin meimei again...

We're off to a great start, fellas.
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>>29658433
I could see her reacting like this.
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>>29658542
Its not over until Ash says something about it
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Kiawe is a way too serious character for a Comedy. He will scare the children
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>>29658519
Where the fuck is Iris?
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>>29657857
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>>29658632
You say that when a character like Paul exists? Kiawe will be a friendly rival.
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>>29658635
Nowhere to be seen like she deserves.
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>>29658649
Autism.
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>>29658802
WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE
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>>29658666
Satan knows what he is saying.
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>>29658802
Delet
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Ash will win the Kalos League tomorrow. It's already been leaked, and this significant change in canon is okay because whether he wins or loses doesn't affect the remaining XYZ episodes.
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>>29658666
Paul existed in DP which can't even be compared to goofy shit like SM
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>>29658802
Pathetic
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>>29658015
Yeah, I've been doing the same and am in the middle of BW right now and have to agree on Johto and AG, that's a really really boring stretch of time and I can see many people not surviving through it.
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>>29658802
Whoa there...
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>>29658852
The only motivation I had that pulled me through that shit was that I wanted to fully know his Hoenn mons in preparation for the DP league. I wouldn't say I particularly like any of his Hoenn mons except maybe Sceptile.
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>>29658847
Paul and how he treated chimchar is not really something a kid should watch. SM may be a comedy but Kiawe will just be serious.
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>>29658542
This certainly wasn't fair to the rest of the main girls
Why didn't the writers think about this?
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>>29658802
ENOUGH.
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>>29658956
>IMG poster
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>>29658962
I will never understand this ship.
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>>29658907
Yeah Paul was awesome
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>>29658802
>slapstick cliche of "lel falling on someone's groing"
How low mighty have fallen...
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>>29658928
you need to break out of your delusions sometime. they were doing you a favor
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In Japan, Main Heroine doesn't mean female protagonist. Main Heroine means main girl. Shujinko means protagonist. Lillie is the main heroine in the SunMoon game.
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>>29658976
Problem officer?
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>>29658802
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>>29658907
>Paul and how he treated chimchar is not really something a kid should watch
We'll never see a character like Paul again dammit. Based Paul
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>entire thread is literally just shitposting
Fuck this gay everything
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>>29658995
Bet you don't even know about TLR.
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>>29659073
>TLR
Now I do.
Thanks for showing me another series I'd like to not follow.
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>>29658991
Not as awesome as Satoshi though
>inb4 Serena
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If I posted edited images too, would you accept them as real?
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>>29659116
>he doesn't know about TLR
Holy shit, how pleb and new can one be.
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>>29659127
>>29658991
Alain is cooler than these losers combined.
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>>29659148
So that depends on how good are you editing skills.
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>>29659116
Why?
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Alan is the strongest Trainer
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>>29659015
It's just that it wasn't even necessary
They could have made them high five or hug and everyone would be happy
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>>29659251
it's time to wake up
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>>29659237
>Ash never won a single battle against him

Alan was, in a certain way, worse than Tobias.
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>>29658978
You don't? You are such a kid.
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>>29659291
nothing is worse than tobias
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>>29659359
I never understood the hate for Tobias. He wasn't edgy and had legendaries. When the Sinnoh League started i didn't knew about the Internet but i already knew Ash wasn't going to win the League
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>>29659359
This, with Alan one could see Ash winning at least one battle, that's not the case with Tobias.
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>>29659439
>He wasn't edgy

eh, he was quite edgy, but more of that "strong silent" stereotype edgy.
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>>29659470
The fuck is this?
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>>29659457
>ith Alan one could see Ash winning at least one battle,
never happened
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Will the anime have the MC/Lillie/Gladion main trio like the games?
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>>29659291
Hell no. Alan did everything for his waifu. Alan is the hero that /padt/ deserves.
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>>29659487
Lillie and Ashley.
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>>29659489
Yes, but at least people thought Ash had a chance. With Tobias there was no way in hell anyone could think that.
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And this kids is how i met your mother
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>>29659528
Mallow a qt.
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>>29659528
I can't get over the fact how cute she looks in this scene.
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>>29659528
No.
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>>29659528
serena isn't in this scene
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>>29659528
Mallow deserves more love. Does everyone hate her because she got the most focus in trailers?
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>>29659572
Yeah she will stay in Hoenn, forever.
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>>29659572
Nor in any other scene.
Ever.
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>>29659127
It would have been nice to see all of the important people Ash met on his journey watching him fight Alain. I'm half expecting Scott to show up and tell Ash he's got the ability to be part of the battle tree. But that won't happen. None of this cool shit will happen.
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>>29659572
she's too busy deepthroating tierno's cock
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>>29659585
I don't like her because she is black
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>>29659572
You prefer this one ?
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>>29659585
She only has a bit more focus than Lillie. Kiawe actually has the most focus out of all the new kids.
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>>29659585
Who hates her? People that are excited for SM anime like her.
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>>29659599
>black
Kiawe looks black, Mallow skin is a bit darker than Ash's. Do you also think he is black?
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>>29659596
If saying that helps you sleep better at night Tierno, then feel free to continue. Your personal health comes above all else. We do worry about you after all.
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>>29659585
I agree, but i can't find so much fanart of her.
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>>29659470
Cute!
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>>29659528
Lillie doesn't stand a chance
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>>29659621
If the anime is anything like the Train-On commercial, Kiawe will be getting all the focus.
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Lana x Sophocles
Mallow x Kiawe
Lillie x Ash
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>>29659528
>twin-tailed brown girl
How can anyone not like her?
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>>29659593
She'll come back for 5 episodes in Alola, but already over her feelings for Ash. I have no idea what the next logical step for her character is after the kissu.
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>>29659696
Didin't the VA said she would go after a new love?
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>>29658903
What? Corphish was one of Ash's funniest pokemon.
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>>29659676
Every SM girl and boy[/spoile]x Ash.
Best vacations in Alola.
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>>29659676
Yes.
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>>29659595
Wish they could animate more of the post games content, sounds more interesting than gym battles for sure.
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>>29659746
Someone give her sclera
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>>29659639
Most of her art is porn, wonder if people think she will be another Iris.
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>>29659747
Dude, I wish they would animate the game content with the big plot that's driving the game's story or at least a modified version of it.
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Game character popularity in Japan seems to be:
Chicken > Lillie = Lusamine > Gladion > Sun > Kukui > Lana > Mallow
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>>29659806
>Lana with normal eyes
Stop
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>unironically thinking they will pair Satoshi with someone other than Serena
Delusional
Like the nips said, Satoshi already has Serena's flag
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>>29659746
She looks like Cilan cosplaying as Lillie with those eyes.
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>>29659806
>Lana eating Tayaki
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This thread is going the wrong way.

You know what to do to fix it.
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>>29659885
They just confirmed Ash will be with Lillie.
It's over.
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>>29659491
Maybe if there is a Aether/UB arc.
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>>29658852
Early/mid AG has a lot of good episodes, but Hoenn does fall apart in the later half, especially around the Magma/Aqua eps.

Although it picks up again around the 8th Gym and into the Grand Festival and league.
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>>29659924
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>>29659818
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>>29659920
Quick, Lana needs a bed story.
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>>29659813
I would be happy to see Gladio in the anime.
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>>29659717
Corphish was the only saving grace of that shitty season.
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>>29659927
Keep telling yourself that
The btfo will be glorious when they show Lillie having a crush on Kiawe or the fat kid
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>>29659972
The pupils still need to be fixed.
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>>29659924
Posting grown up bonnie?
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>>29660000
>Lillie having a crush on Kiawe
This is literally impossible because Kiawe is black
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>>29659999
quads of truth
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>>29660000
Nice quads there
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>>29659972
Cute! i want to give her gently headpats.
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>>29659999
Sceptile, Corphish and Snorunt/Glalie were all great, and back then Swellow was Ash's first bird used for battling so it stood out. Although not so much anymore now that Ash has so many bird pokemon.

TR/Brock are far less bland in AG then they become in DP and beyond, and May/the Contests were the major well developed part of the saga. The battles were also a step up from the OS at least.
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>It's time to fight sexy Kanto boy
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>>29659813
Source: your ass
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>>29659999
>>29660000
>Quads side by side
Wew lad.
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Seeing Ash and Delia together after such a long time makes me want to be a mother
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>>29660045
That's why the btfo will be beautiful
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>>29660000
Quads confirm.

Petite, white Lillie will be bred by the strong, black Kiawe and get BLACKED.
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>>29660091
are u a girl
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2 weeks until the downgrade of quality.
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>>29660066
Kiawe vs Gladio
Who wins?
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>>29660109
Obviously
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>>29660113
He looks young and cute in the new style, like a small shota boy, i like it.
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Don't know if anyone has noticed yet but Ash desk has School stuff like pencils, rulers and erases. HOLY SHIT IT IS REALLY A SCHOOL
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>>29660168
Ash is supposed to be a shota. To think there people in this thread who self insert into him.
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>>29659713
Source on that? Because that'll destroy every single amourshipper.
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>>29660159
you know the rules, tits of gtfo.
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>>29660168
Fuck off you disgusting pedophile
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>>29660113
My levels of hype are off the charts.
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>>29660066
IKE! BAKUGAMESU!
ZENRYOKU...DAINAMIKKU FURU FUREIMU!!!
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What's the most bullshit move in the series?
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>>29660191
>disgusting pedophile
Don't judge me, i like it for personal reasons.
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>>29660206
counter shield
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>>29660179
>WOW I HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL!? :0 SO CRAZY!!! XD!
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>>29659971
Lillie was the first girl, not Mallow.
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>>29659782
I just want Aether and Gladion to not change. That would be a really great reveal and Gladion could be a great rival.

I'm also kinda surprised that the Delta episode hasn't been adapted fully other than the Generations episode. Zinnia would be voiced by Sawashiro.
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>>29660188
fuck off
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>>29660219
ok then
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>>29660264
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>>29660206
The Giant Water Shuriken losing out in the end.
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What does Gladio have on his fingers?
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You know what they say about love
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>>29659999
Quads confirm
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>>29660306
Is this the scene where Ash gets brain damage and becomes a retard? Wouldn't be surprised if he's relatively normal before this.
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What are the chances of more fanservice in SM?
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>>29660018
>we will never see a grown up Eureka on her journey
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>>29660351
We should see more swimsuits than usual if that's what you mean.
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>>29660306
My poor child everyone crushed him without compassion.
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Why does Ash keeps making promises he can't keep? Does he have mythomania??
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>>29660305
The plates, dude.
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>>29660306
Savage.
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Are the best episodes the ones with buneary? It seems that way to me
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>>29660067
Source: amount of fanart in Twitter and Pixiv
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>>29660206
burasto baan
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>>29660305
Duel Monsters Cards
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>>29660060
I agree, I loved his Hoenn team back in the day. Even if Torkoal barely did anything, there's always pokemon shafted in eveyr gen.
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>>29660306
DUDE SLAPSTICK LMAO

No, seriously, fuck.
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>>29660381
Those promises are things that he want to do in some way, but he can't because the circumstances.
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>>29658212
This is my stance on the issue as well
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>>29660412
>I hate fun
I bet you don't have friends
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Dear Satoshi

I hope you are having fun in Alola. I sent you a package with all sorts of food I know you like. Please enjoy them! Consider it like a care package of sorts... hehe.

I am doing well in Hoenn. I do hope we can meet soon. Maybe if I have the time, I can come visit you in Alola? What do you say?

From your girlfriend,

Serena
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>>29660206
Aim for the horn!
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>>29660468
>Serena who???
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>>29660045
If they decide to ship this interracial shit they will just shoot themselves in the foot.
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>>29660463
Pokemon was plenty fun before this. Sounds like you are projecting
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>>29660468
>Serena sent Ash a package full of the dog food she would always make
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>>29660510
>Pokemon was plenty fun before this
Even BW had more fun than XY
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>>29660498
Tumblr will enjoy it.
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>>29660468
>PS, here's the photo that we took together *that* day, hehehehe~
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>Dinner is ready honeey
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>>29660409
He does look like a Yu Gi Oh character, just add a second color to his hair and it would be perfect.
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When will Ash bust the sweet Z move
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>>29660558
>Thanks, babe
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>>29660544
DP really had its moments, didn't it?
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>>29660569
Kek
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>>29660549
But 99% of the Japanese viewers won't.
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>>29660587
IKEEE PIKACHU
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>>29660610
Damn shame he never evolved it.
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>>29660558

Wait a minute...

>You're not Serena?
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>>29660610
Yeah it sure did
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>>29660468

Dear Serena

Who are you? I don't have a girlfriend named Serena. I don't even have a girlfriend. I had a friend named Serena from Kalos, but our relationship wasn't like that. She went to Hoenn. I think you have the wrong Satoshi.
Anyway, I send the package back, since you have the wrong person. Maybe you will meet my friend named Serena. I'm sure you two will become good friends, like we are. You already have something in common, your name! I hope the mix-up is fixed on your end. Sorry for the trouble. ALOLA!!!

-The wrong Satoshi
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How BTFO will padt be when Pikachu shocks all three SM girls at the same time?
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>We're a decent 10-15 episodes into SM
>Lillie has also been confirmed to like Ash.
>People shipping like crazy. Lots of shitposting on /padt/, huge war between Lilliefags and Serenafags.
>Ash gets a letter from a past companion in one episode right at the end, but it isn't revealed who it's from.
>Shitposting reaches levels never thought possible before. Lilliefags and Serenafags war escalates, with a shitpost every second.
>The new episode airs.
>Ash reads the letter. It's cute and pink, people think it's Serena.
>At the bottom Ash reads, "From your boyfriend, Clemont."
>Biggest BTFO of all fucking time happens. Shit is bigger than the League loss.
>Scott posts a tumblr post talking about how great it is Ash and Clemont are together every fucking minute.
>Stale comes back from the dead and shitposts about how 'Clemont' won even though he shitposted Geekchic.
>Throw in some random Bonniefags complaining that her onii-chan is gone.
>Meanwhile, all the homoscience boys emerge from their caves and post porn everywhere.
>The homoscience porn is spammed over /vp/.
>99% of regular /padt/ users have already killed themselves.
>All that is left in the end is Scott, Stale and Duplica, trying to out-shitpost each other.
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>>29660636
Yeah, he got him way too late in the series. Ash could have a pretty good team for a league if he trained older pokemon.
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>>29660663
You sure are the wrong Satoshi
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>>29660667
my head right now
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>>29660665
>How BTFO will padt be when Pikachu shocks all three SM girls at the same time?
Why would it be BTFO?? It would be funny Its a comedy remember?
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>>29660206
>using light screen reflects the attacks back to the enemy
That whole battle was pure bullshit.
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>>29660468
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>>29660206
That
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>>29660663
My sides!! typical Satoshi.
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>>29660694
Girls who get themselves or their bikes shocked by Pikachu are automatically disqualified from the Ashbowl
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>>29659237
of course he is

>>29660675
>Ash could have a pretty good team for a league if he trained older pokemon.

What would his strongest possible team be from all the pokemon he currently owns?
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>>29660663
Perfect.
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>>29660721
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>>29660754
sounds like a BTFO before it has even officially happened
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>>29660468
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>>29660743
If mega Infernape was a thing, then that would definitely be a powerhouse, considering how great Blaze was in DP.
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>>29660663
Of course that's the wrong Satoshi. The real one is already on road to the Gen 8 region.
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>>29660206
I'm the guy who recently finished Decolora.

This episode made me quit my marathon of the anime for months before picking it back up.

>"of courshe why didn't I think of dat befhoure"

Fuck I was mad.
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>>29660772
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>>29660667
Clemont, we know that's you.
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>>29660468
Dear Satoshi
I wrote you but still ain't answering'
I left my cell, and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in summer, you must not-a got 'em
There probably was a problem at the post office or something
But anyways, I will forgive you, what have you been up to? how's your pikachu?
If we have a daughter, guess what I'm a call her?
I'm a name her Bonnie
I know you probably hear this everyday, but I'm your biggest fan
I got a room full of your posters and your pictures
Anyways, I hope you get this bae, hit me back,
Just to chat, truly yours, your girlfriend
Serena
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>>29660675
Like when fucking Cyndaquil evolved. HGSS had already been out, so what was the point of it? Because it was cool. I wish the writers just let a few of his pokemon evolve. He could easily have a great team, having 2 psuedo legendaries.
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>>29660743
Sceptile, Pikachu, Infernape, Greninja, Snorlax, pre-nerf Charizard.
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>>29660113
How do you go from left to right?
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>>29660782
>The real one is already on road to the Gen 8 region.
Just like how DP Ash was going to come back for Gen 7
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>>29660702
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>>29660831
when you go from budget to no budget
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>>29660667
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>>29660824
This is some serious autism.

On another note, I still don't know whether to consider Amour canon, mostly canon, or still the same semi-canon level it always has been. What was the consensus around here? I wasn't in this thread the day of the kiss episode.
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>>29660804
One random Gym battle made you quit your marathon? What?
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>>29660866
It's as canon as you will get until the last, final episode of the entire anime. And that is if said distant future finale shows Ash getting with someone at all. Or aged up. Or winning.
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>>29660866
Is not canon, and i will ship Ash with every girl until he marries one.
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>>29660781
A mega Infernape would overshadow Charizard as Ash's strongest fire pokemon and we can't have that, can we?
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>>29660866
>What was the consensus around here?
Some say its Canon others that it isn't. Personally i think just like you. I need to see Serena Cameo in Alola and Ash treating her like a GF before saying its canon
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All haters will get BTFO when the epic shounen key art for the big final arc of S&M is revealed. It will have Satoshi and Gladion on the front, with Pikachu and Sylvaly clashing. Lillie crying in the background. Lusamine's evil looking face on the top and the silhouettes of the Ultra Beasts flying around.
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>>29660663
Kek
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>>29660917
Its needs to happen
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>>29660881
I was really bored with it at that time and the episode killed my motivation because it was just so bad. I picked it back up maybe 3-4 months later.
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>>29660947
No anime plans this far ahead anon.
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>>29660866
It's as canon as it was before the kiss, if Ash does not reciprocate the feelings it will never be canon.
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>>29660947
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>29660969
Well that was a weak stretch of the series, but it did pick up around the 8th Gym leading into the Grand Festival and league. There's barely any filler at that point.
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>>29660947
>Lusamine's evil looking face
Yes, keep putting the blame on that whore.
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>>29660936
>>29660914
I mean what complicates this is that even though Ash didn't respond with something like "Serena I love you," the fact that Serena basically declared Ash to be her "goal" sort of makes the writers' intent pretty clear, at least to me. Even if they aren't together RIGHT NOW, that's not what matters: what matters is that in the future they will be together (even if Ash doesn't realize it right now), if we are to believe Serena.
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>>29660994
I think it also was that I looked forward to the Gym episode because I was so bored with the endless formulaic journey. I didn't know about the Thunder Armor beforehand so it was a huge disappointment.
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>>29660866
It was making fun of Stan.

See: Eminem
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>>29660962
Infernape was pretty much the Greninja of that season. There's no doubt that they'll bring Greninja back, but I would love to see him interact with Ash's other powerhouse pokemon.
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>>29660947
You're right.
But before that, the Kahunas battles!
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>>29661005
The writers of the pokemon anime are weasels so i'll wait till the last episode
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>>29661023
It was weird but it was pretty funny. I mean the only thing else they could have done is have Grovyle and Corphish battle in yet another Gym (since they're both super effective against Solrock/Lunatone), but we had seen them do so much battling in the series at that point, and for the rest of AG after.
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>>29660962
Infernape felt stronger than Charizard, the only thing he needs to show superiority is a canon defeat of a legendary.
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>>29661005
Even though this is plainly obvious to anyone with any ability even somewhat read between the lines, that's not what this is about. People have been stuck in unfounded delusions of various shippings for over over a decade and they will refuse to accept what happened unless its plainly spelled out and taken to its maximum endpoint, with no room for interpretation whatsoever.
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>>29661091
8/10 would lick.
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>>29660866
Depends on whether you mean "consensus by posters with legitimate thoughts on the matter" or add in "what shitposters pretend to think and constantly spam for derailment purposes" to the mix.
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>>29661091
Tasty.
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>>29660866
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>>29661040
At this rate we might be waiting a long time for the last episode of the anime and I see no reason from a marketing perspective for the writers to bring back Serena for more than a one- or two-episode cameo in S/M.

I sort of think that the writers are trying to thread the needle in such a way that Amourshippers get something nice and can plausibly claim it as canon, while having just enough ambiguity for non-Amourshippers to say it's not canon.

I do sort of fear that Serena's fate will ultimately be no different than that of the other girls: tossed into the wastebasket just like the other girls have been. And that to me diminishes the significance of the kiss. In the grand scheme of things, how much does a goodbye kiss really matter?

Yet Serena saying Ash will be hers would seemingly suggest that the writers ultimately want Amour to be canon. Maybe they do want it to be canon but couldn't show them married and such because this is a kids show and Ash is likely to remain 10 for the show's duration. So their only workaround was to have Serena say on camera she's going to end up with the Ash someday.

>>29661108
So in your view it might as well be canon for all practical purposes, which is kind of how I view it too, for the reasons I state above.
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>>29661108
The subtext is there, but it's still just subtext. I still see people saying that it's a forehead kiss, even though everything else in that episode says otherwise. Unless someone outright says it or the anime decides to show some actual conclusion, people will not concede.
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>>29660947
Fuck
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>>29661180
This doesn't tell me anything beyond what I already know.

>>29661130
Alright so what's the overall view of the "legitimate" posters, and how do you define "legitimate"?
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>>29661217
People spamming retarded shit just to "argue" will always happen, anon. Nobody ACTUALLY thinks it was a forehead kiss
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>>29661005
In all fairness, we do not know. Seeing as the anime is basically a promotion tool for the vidya, and these will continue pouring out until GF and TPC go bust, we won't see Ash's story ending in a long time; maybe we're not even at the half-point at all (even though 20 years have passed already). And if/when that day happens, they can do whenever they can: maybe they give him an open ending where he fucks off to another adventure, maybe he loses for the gorillionth time and choses another career path, maybe he wins a league, maybe they age him up and show him married and with a kid. And in that scenario, there are several possibilities: bringing an old girl, using the current (last) girl as wife, asspulling an OC girl out of their asses, not showing the wife altogether...who the fuck knows. The only thing we can be sure is that, right now, Serena has the highest chance (which is still a small chance) to be endgame, maybe, and if there is an endgame at all.

And all of this is assuming they don't simply give the anime the axe at the middle of a series and leave it inconcluse.
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>>29661235
>Alright so what's the overall view of the "legitimate" posters,
It's canon
>and how do you define "legitimate"?
People that actually mean what they say and aren't just posting things they don't mean just to get reactions. Come on, now.
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>>29661245
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>>29661252
That's fair. I suppose with a marketing show you can't be 100% sure about anything. Everything has to be qualified with "to the best of our knowledge" or "as of now."
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>>29661235
>>29661245
How new are you faggots?
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>>29661291
That's the case with every show. You can't name anything in some show that "we know".
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>>29661245
I mean, OLM and its writers are kinda stuck at this point. The reception of the artstyle of SM has been mixed to negative, and Serena kissing Ash had an overwhelming response. What will they do now? The games seem like they'll have the DEEPEST LORE, while the anime doesn't. Do Pokemon players in Japan watch the anime, or is that still mostly kids and families?
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>>29661321
The anime is far more popular there than it is here, yes.
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New:
>>29661278
>>29661278
>>29661278
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>>29661358
At least wait for the bump limit.
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>>29661338
But ratings have been down, so I guess they're trying to get the yokai watch crowd? Which is bullshit because DBS and One Piece are doing super well, with One Piece and Pokemon being around for the same amount of time. Wouldn't a shounen be somewhat more appealing to a wider audience?
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>>29661409
The "ratings are down" thing is shitposting.
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>>29661409
they tried shounen stuff with XY and the ratings were still low. that's why they're changing it up in SM.
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>>29661453
>lying
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>>29661418
Haven't they been worse than Yokai watch?
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>>29661302
In some ways I'm a bit disappointed that Amour ultimately didn't have a more drastic impact on the show. Yeah it gets its nice conclusion, but then what? I just hope it won't be forgotten to history as just another farewell for just another Pokegirl. I hope it carries greater meaning/significance than that
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>>29661475
"Worse than x" does not equal "low". And YW's popularity has dropped considerably the last year, it and Pokemon are getting pretty much the same ratings now.

Ratings are a poor way to gauge popularity anyway.
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>>29661381
A shitposter would have made an early thread anyway. Rules only work when the threads aren't filled with shitters that deliberately break them for the purpose of breaking them.
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>>29661502
Ah, my mistake then. I'm just entirely unsure of what's going to come from SM.
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>>29660866
>only canon love interest in 20 years
>ends with this and Serena saying next time they see again she'll be a more attractive woman
You have to be autistic to consider it non canon
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>>29661409
>>29661475
>>29661555
Also, DBS and OP's current ratings are lower than what shitposters used to claim were "super low ratings that mean the show will probably get canceled soon if they don't improve" back when Pokemon got them.

Basically, just write off any mention of the show's ratings as spam and intentional shitposting. You seem rather new and unfamiliar with how much constant shitposting these threads get
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>>29661589
You forgot the part where she says Ash is her goal.

But I mean ultimately it's so tough to gauge what this actually means for Ash as a character if the show continues another 20 years or so and Serena makes one mostly inconsequential appearance in S/M.
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>>29659609
Love interest from childhood never loses when they never give up.
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>>29661589
>serena then leaves to the void while ash is completely reset
only a fool would consider this canon
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