ITT: let's predict how old mons will fare in the new meta

pyroar counters himself
>68 attack and moxie
What was gamefreak thinking

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All of the mediocre grass/poison types from could potentially counter primarina, but knowing GF, they'll likely give her psychic and ice beam. Amoonguss would be even better tho.

>>29569263
>Force out birb
>Noble Roar on switch.

>>29569298
*from kanto

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>Talonflame goes to UU

Screencap this.

>>29569263
Wait a fucking second. Their names are so similar to incineroar

Will Mega mom drop from OU?

>>29569314
nah
accel rock and bruxish will put a dent on it, but I doubt it will be enough
besids, it would rape UU

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>>29569319

>>29569319
did you just notice that? that was the first thing I noticed

>>29569321
you mean from ubers, do you?
btw, unless the nerf makes her lose the secondary effect on the second hit, I doubt

>>29569324
Psychic terrain too

>>29569324
Then let's create ANOTHER tier. Smogon loves to create tiers.

Let's call it "Cookie-cutter teams for Garbage Players". That's where Talonflame belongs, after all.

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>>29569298
My time to shine.

>>29569298
Primarina will be a menace this gen. GF loves giving their water types and fairy types lots of coverage

Reminder that how well a Pokémon does against something popular in the meta is not an indicator of how good it will actually do

See: Golduck vs. Primal Groudon and Mega Rayquaza

>>29569350
hell, even magneton could rise to UU

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>>29569350
>Primarina gets earth power
Wouldn't surprise me with the ridiculous moves water types get sometimes

>>29569345
oh, right, but thus far only one pokemon is confirmed to learn it, and would still probably be destroyed by flare blitz
again, I doubt it will drop

>>29569350
yfw primarina learns earth power

>>29569324
Tapu Lele will probably be everywhere.

>>29569295
Maybe a SpA Moxie Variant.
A man can dream :')

>>29569380
>>29569381
Is there a watertype that isn't dual ground that learns shit like this and who is it?

>>29569357
anyone who seriously thought golduck could do shit against those two was retarded.
on the contrary, it's not TOTALLY IMPLAUSIBLE that pyroar might find a niche against something that isn't a legendary on steroids

>>29569396
There's Corsola and Volcanion, but those are rock and fire, which have to do with Earth Power anyway.

>>29569389
so will be its counters, if it will really be this popular.
I think that an offensive core made of talonflame + scizor will be a legit answer

>>29569396
Some water/rock types, Palkia, and Volcanion I think.

But I just wouldn't surprise me if GF gave ridiculous coverage to the starters, especially Primarina

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>>29569263
Special Water Shuriken will make Accelgor actually relevant. A new staple on rain teams with Hydration. Maybe a specs set, even?

>>29569350
>4x weakness reduced by Grassy Terrain
>tons of Fairy types this gen
>Alolan Ninetales could become another viable Ice type if it gets Snow Warning
>Fini is the only Tapu can do non-resisted damage to Magnezone and it's also weak to it.

Magnezone might actually find a rise this gen.

>>29569494
I think unburden might be the superior choice. Slap a focus sash, lose it and be sanic with added priority water move for the lulz.
I doubt it will make it to OU considering how frail it is, but who knows, could be a good one trick pony like serperior

>>29569518
...a 'magnet' rise?

>>29569518
>find a rise
Like a Magnet Rise?

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>>29569545
>>29569555
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qndAM71Y6cY

>>29569635
Water types

>>29569314
BL1 if anything

>>29569263
Primeapw checks darkrai, doesn't make primeape good desu

>>29569314
How? lycanroc can't switch in, only revenge it. tsareena loses to flare blitz. it can uturn out on bruxish so only lele will beat it, most likely