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Any nihonjin who can explain me why japanese fandom loves Wally to much?
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They also have an obsession with Erika, she is their number one waifu
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>>29546931
That makes sense, considering that she's designed after the ideal Japanese woman.
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>>29546885
He looks like Len
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>>29546885
We love because he have good character development
You do not like him?
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>>29546885
explain these guys first
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Because Wally is a shota
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>>29546885
Because cute shotas are life
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>>29546885
Because Wally is a frail little boy that people want to protect?
>>29547245
Being twin brothers.
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>>29547312
Pixiv is filled with Wally porn. I guess defiling him is what people also want.
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>>29546931
This is so fucking true lol I went 2chan one time and there was a thread only for Erika and a thread for Pokegirls where Erika and Skyla were on top every list
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>>29547359
That because Erika is hot
Who is best girl here 4chan? Melissa?
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>>29546931
>>29547359
They dont understand why we like Cynthia and Sabrina tho
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>>29546931
I can see why. She's very elegant and Japanese.
>>29547343
People like to bad touch little kids I guess.
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/ss/
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>>29546885
How do you know japanese fandom loves him?
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>>29547397
Lusamine, Cynthia, Wickie...
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>>29546885
I mean, he's cute, isn't that reason enough?
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>>29547451
Wow, that is interesting choice
I ask why? I am interested, I agree with one you say
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>>29547215
People here prefer Archie, Kukui, you know.... America
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>>29547398
Cynthia
>First female Champion
>Actually challenging
>Blonde and beautiful
>She's wearing black so she's instantly fashionable
>Design is pretty memorable
>Has a nice and dramatic piano theme

Sabrina
>Ugly design in both gen 1 and 2
>shows off midriff like a slut
>???
I don't understand why people like Sabrina either
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>>29547503
Haha because they have muscle?
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>>29547573
>being this new
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Wow, i didnt know Japan loves Wally. Know makes sense why they bring Cynthia (Who is loved in west) and Wally back for Battle Tree
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>>29547573
>Delicious brown
>Muscles
>>29547648
Wally kicked N out of the spotlight lmao
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>>29547647
Yes, I don't come 4chan often I go 2chan more

>>29547671
You like kokujin?
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>>29547700
No just tan/brown
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>>29547245
Who are those badass Pokénazis
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>>29547498
>>29547510
Cynthia is explained in the anon's reply. Lusamine for some similar reasons and Wickie is most liked by europeans, so I cant explain to you
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>>29547928
Well, Wickie is thicc all over and people have a glasses fetish too
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>>29548051

Velma from Scooby Doo is a lot of peoples fetish
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>>29547510
>First female Champion
>Actually challenging
>Has a nice and dramatic piano theme
Those things have nothing to do with people feeling attracted to a character.

>She's wearing black so she's instantly fashionable
I would strongly disagree there. Her clothes lack any detail whatsoever, and being all black makes them look even more bland than they were.

>Blonde and beautiful
This here is the only real point I agree with. And her long blonde hair and beauty are what makes her design a bit memorable.
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>>29546931
I mean this is pretty obvious, rub your two neurones together
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>>29547245
They like gen 5 characters
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>>29547312
>is a frail little boy
Not by the end he isn't.
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Also we like many girl from Pokémon + Nobunaga's Ambition
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>>29546885
Strongest rival ever. Fuck blue.
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>>29547398

Both are

>Cool and confident
>Skilled at what they do
>Have hobbies and little tidbits to flesh out their personalities
>Confidence means you could just talk normally to them
>Have a history of being challenging battles
>Beautiful/Hot as fuck like holy shit 15/10

Cynthia is more approachable and demonstrates emotions, Sabrina is colder and more aloof. There are more details to each of them but that's the base rundown.

Different values between the east and West I guess.
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>>29547245
Incest I guess? Also they're unemotional, so it's easy to make up personalities for them.

Most of the people that like these guys are Fujoshis, so make what you will.
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>>29547398
>>29547510
>Strong female character
>Is a Psychic
>Her original design is cute AND hot at the same time
>Her updated design is the same
>Has a really cute personality in HGSS

Sabrina is just overall really cute, and her design is also pretty hot.
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>remembers /ss/ images of wally and flannery
there is a reason why wally is so popular.

japanese women love cute (and effeminate) boys just like wally.
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>>29547700

Hey, speaking of which

Is it true that big muscles and typical hammy behaviour are considered more effeminate or at least used to caricature gay men in Japan?
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>>29548934
The stereotype is that a man who bothers to build up big muscles is invested in his appearance, which they view as a feminine trait.
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>>29546931
Maybe I share some closer ancestors to the Japanese than I thought.
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>>29548571
Westerns also like, N, Roxie, Marlon and Elesa are loved anywhere you go
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>>29548934
Yep
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>>29548934
Hmm, it depend. Just general big muscle on the own is not female but with weird behavior make it seem more female
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>>29546931
She is one of the only girls in Pokémon that looks explicitly Japanese, so I guess it makes sense.

>>29546885
Maybe because he is "cute", and is one of the only characters from Hoenn that people emote with.

>>29547245
Gen 5 had a LOT of strong new characters. These two are some of the only ones that didn't really get any character building moments, so I would guess that caused people to latch onto them because in a Gen with a lot of character development for side characters, these were an exception where you could headcanon how they are.

Just a guess.

>>29547398
Cynthia is the strongest Champion, and probably has spent the most time interacting with the players outside of the E4. I don't see how it's confusing. Sabrina is different though, her popularity is definitely a bit more Western. I think it's because she appeals to lots of different fetishes. She goes though so many designs and personality changes (and that's just the games, let alone other media) there basically has to be a version of Sabrina that will appeal to you. On top of that, she is Genwun. I don't think Japan is as stuck in the past as the west.
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I want to defile his little boipussy!!!!
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>>29547359
If this is true why do the other girls get so much more art?

Also, does Erika wear a hairband or a headband? I've seen the same artist use either one in different pictures.
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>>29546931
Woah, Japan actually has pretty good taste. Gen 1 girls are all god tier.

Still not the #1.
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What do they think about Roxie?
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>>29546931
Like... Is this any surprise for you?
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>>29549079
NO! Wally is pure!
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Question, what is thought of Melissa in west?
In Japan she is English
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>>29548793
Cheren achieves basically as much as Blue did. Cheren was never going to make it to Champion no matter what, because the whole N/Ghetsis shit went down. They both settle as Gym Leaders.

Then there is Silver who does unofficially beat Lance outside of the E4, and he was a pretty strong Rival.

Wally gits gud only for his single final fight. People only like him for his sob story.

>>29548990
Gen 5 characters tend to be really popular in general because they had a stronger focus on giving each Gym Leader their own little developments. They even had entire little cutscenes for them in B2W2 with Memory Link.

Also worth noting that Gen 5 was based on the USA, so the characters were more western and thus more appealing in the west. Characters like a punk rocker girl may have a niche appeal to Japan, but would also be way more appealing and attractive to westerners.

The only thing I will stop you on is Marlon. I absolutely fucking hate him, I have never met anybody who likes him. I have also only seen (very little) Jap art of him, and nothing western.

I'm pretty sure nobody likes Marlon, that lazy fuck. He's also the only Leader in Unova who DOESN'T really get any sub-plot/development. He just sort of fucks off.
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>>29548466
Beta boys and feminists love their powerful women bruh
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>>29549129
They changed it so she's French. She's largely unpopular though, I've only ever seen a handful of people that like her.
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>>29549113
I can't say the majority feeling of Roxie, but I know she had a strong but short-lived pairing with Rosa that I think was really popular.

As a result, like 1/3rd of all Roxie art is paired with Rosa. There's even a doujin.

>>29549129
Fantina? In the western games, she was changed to be French, and she is generally despised for being annoying, and having a pretty gross design.
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>>29549131
Cheren looks japanese for me
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>>29549178
>>29549184
Ah okay, I agree, she look a little ugly especially face and hair
But I did not know she change to French, that interesting
What about boy characters, which you like?
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>>29549125
Wally is a slut for Ruby! SLUT!!!
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>>29549129
Had to google メリッサ ポケモン to discover who you were talking about lol She is very likely an old french and fashion woman here
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>>29549234
NO NO NO!
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>>29549224
Are you japanese?

Westeners like Red and Green, probably because of thier friendly rivalry and now all the gay subtext people make. N is also quite popular.
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>>29549224
Brendan (the boy player from R/S/E) is probably the most popular playable character.

Silver from G/S/C is very popular here as a rival.

Steven is the most popular male Champion.

I am not sure about Gym Leaders.
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>>29549280
SLUT
L
U
T
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>>29549224
Brendan, Red and Hilbert are all extremely popular.
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>>29549224
From what I've seen, people tend to generally like the "manly" men such as Archie/Aogiri, Kukui, etc. Colress/Achroma is pretty popular too. Those who prefer more "effeminate" men usually seem to go for characters like Professor Sycamore/Platane or James/Kojiro.
Personally I like Steven/Daigo, he's pretty popular too I think.
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>>29549243
Haha sorry, I know little English and I try
And I think maybe I should play games in the english language sometime

>>29549293
Yes, I browse around but this interest me so I post too
I see, they are popular so I see why

>>29549326
Sorry, I will look for names
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>>29549295
Blue is a gym leader and perhaps the most popular one as a male gym leader.
Other than that it could be Morty or Volkner.
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>>29549383
Yuki, Red and Touya
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>>29549386
Brock cilan too and clemont because ashnime
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>>29549311
STOP! Wally is not a slut!
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>>29549426
He wants Ruby to break his mind and ass!!!!
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>>29549383

Okay, I'm curious

Só we're telling you why we think certain characters are popular and whatnot, can you explained why people in the east like who they like?

We can guess, but it's better to hear from someone
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>>29549224
Archie (アオギリ), Brendan (ユウキ), Kukui, Hilbert (トウヤ), Red, Blue (グリーン) seems to be the most popular here
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>>29549451
N-NO!
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>>29549380
Hmn, i see, that is interesting

>>29549411
Thanks

>>29549468
I see, it is similar here but we like some gym leader and champion too
But the similar is because we like main character too
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>>29549383
Cool, if you don't mind I have two questions.

In the West there exists a strong bias toward gen 1 and the original 151, even denouncing everything else. Is this common to Eastern fans as well?

What pokemon from gen 7 are popular in Japan? This includes the ones from the leak.
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>>29549460
Of course, I can answer just ask question because I can not write too much in English sorry
But in most case of boys is because they are appealling or because people who love male like them, even fujoshi too
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Is Youkai Watch really bombing Pokémon at Nippon desuka?
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>>29549490
WALLY YES
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>>29549581
>>29549490
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>>29549580
They're mostly on par with each other really
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>>29549580
yeah because it's very nip oriented, it failed outside of nipcountry though.
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>>29546885
>Hey Anon, is that you?
>O-oh, I just-
>I just wondered if you'd like to battle with me. But if not, that's okay too, I know how busy you are...
>R-really? Okay Anon, thank you! Here I come!
>Wow... you really are strong. Well, I guess it's only fitting for the trainer that saved Hoenn. Thank you... I'll be sure to learn from this experience and catch up to you one day.
>...Huh? What are you doing, Anon?
>A different reward? What do you mean?
>A-ah!
>P-please don't touch me there, it's dirty...
>Ahh!
>Anon stop, I'm starting to feel funny.
>It's standing up all on its own...
>Ah... hah... ha...
>S-something's going to come out.
>A-Anon...!
>I think I'm going to pee...
>Aaaaahn!
>Hah... hah... hah...
>I'm so sleepy now, Anon...
>W-why are you laughing at me?
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>>29549543
Mimikyu lycanroc steenee
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>>29548658

You mean you like characters from Samurai Warriors 3?
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>>29549543
Hmm, no, from what I see including me we not have bias from gen 1 we like other places more

Also we already like kosumoggu, mimikyu, iwanko family and amakaji family and the starter are nice too but the others is very opinion

Can I ask too? Why is west bias with gen 1?
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Hey nihonjin-senpai, dont you guys feel like uncomfortable for Pokémon uses english names instead of japanese? Like ポケットモンスターサン&ムーン instead of ポケットモンスター日&月?
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>>29549383
まじで日本人なの?ぼくも日本人だけどアメリカですんでるからふたばとかあまりつかってないん。
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>>29549716
Mostly nostalgia, for some reason quite a bit of Westeners seem so attached to the original 151 they ignore or even complain about them.

Thanks for the reply.
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>>29546885
ダチ
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>>29546931
Fucking figures. Japan needs to be nuked one more time to get rid of their utterly shit taste. Maybe then they won't be terrible.
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>>29549716
What's the general opinion on what we've seen of the Sun & Moon anime so far? Most people here seem to hate the new art style and school setting.
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>>29549704
Haha you mean musou games? Yes, I am fan too

>>29549743
Hmm, personally not me but I can see why if people find it not comfortable

>>29549761
こんにちは、ここで別の日本人を見るのもいい。

>>29549799
I see, maybe they are original player? It make sense because for example if I play gen 2 first then I will have personal love for that

>>29549817
ワオ
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>>29549716

Gen 1 is when pokemon was at its most popular. Many people that don't play anymore still like it because it was part of their childhood.

Also the designs, many people don't like how cartoon-ish(anime-ish?) the new ones are.

What are your top 6 favorite pokemon?
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>>29547510
>Sabrina ugly design
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>>29549888
>こんにちは、ここで別の日本人を見るのもいい。
You fucked up. That sounds fake as fuck. At least try to hide the fact you're using Google translator.
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>>29549903
>posting ugly pokemon
No wonder.
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>>29549888

Is Dark(aku) type really evil in Japan?

Is this why there are no dark type gym Leaders?
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>>29547510
>Ugly design
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>>29549131
I like Marlon because he's cute.
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>>29549234
It is the other way around.
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