Did Gamefreak know what they what they where doing when

>>29541734
No, they were still innocent at the time. Gen 5 was when they were overtaken by waifumons.

>>29541734
No since it was apparently supposed to be a knight.

but they learned from it's reception and are now trying profit from it considering hypno lizard and planty mcthighs

Well it came out 5 years after (what I'm guessing) the 11 year old core audience bought the first games
So yes, but my counter-argument is if pokemon can become trash bags to adapt to humans why wouldn't they become waifus?

>>29541734
That choker is hot as fuck

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>>29541772
Planty McThighs at least makes a bit of sense. Mangosteens are the queen of fruit after all.
She's like this gen's Vespiquen. I just hope she doesnt suck.

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It was basically proto-Lucario. One almost important mon that got so much attention they've been trying to re-bottle that lightning every generation since. Not nearly as forced as Lucario, of course, but it's the same concept. Along with Pikaclones.

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>>29541772
I just gather the lulz. The Gardevior is male thing is amusing.

>>29541734
Of course they did. And they knew that Gardevoir was their best ruse pokemon.

>make pokemon that's basically a woman
>make it half male
>give it an alt form
>but only males can become that form, and males can still become Gardevoir
>give it a new mega form
>and it's still for males too
GF loves fucking with their fanbase in that way sometimes. I'd think that would be obvious.

>>29541772
No, it was supposed to be based on a ballroom dancer. The whole Sirknight thing was just the translation. It looks nothing like a knight.

>>29541734
No.

GF probably knew what they were doing for Lopunny and beyond

>>29541859
Not that other person, but I always imagined it as a little bit of both. Considering it takes after the idea of a guardian angel like being, hence the amorphous egg type. The element from the knight, being to protect their master from harm

>>29541734
I think they just made a Pokemon that resembled Wally, and didn't expect it to become so popular.

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>>29541850
>>29541859

This just reminds me of pic related

>realize that they made a mistake
>made a male counterpart in Gen 4
>they could make a male Kirlia evolve into Gallade just by normal leveling up, just with Gardevoir
>instead you were required to use a Dawn Stone that only works on a male Kirlia
>while male Kirlia could still evolve into Gardevoir just by leveling up

Clearly, they weren't thinking at all.

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>>29542294
Kirlia evolve into Gardevoir naturally regardless of gender. Why would they change that right away over a new evolution method? Gallade seems like a very specialized evolution(abandons the dancer theme Kirlia was building up) than a consistant progression.

>>29543159
I think the point was that Gardevoir is too feminine to be 50% male, so they could have simply made male Kirlia become Gallade and females become Gardevoir.

>>29541850
sauce?

>>29541734
Gardevoir probably was based of guardian angels. And of course guardian angels are fabulous to dont scare away they one they do protect.

But i think they made her too feminime looking by accident.

no
Gardevoir was a fluke, an accident
But every generation since they have intentionally tried to recreate it.

I never understood this as well, why not just change their fucking evolution to:
male kirlia - Gallade
female kirlia - Gardevoir

>>29546117
GF doesn't retcon evolutions

>>29548349
>Feebas

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>>29541821
At least it's not as offensively obvious as SaberFace Syndrome.

>>29546117
Probably because the damage was already done and R/S/E could obtain and port through male Gardevoirs to the next Gen

>>29541859
I think it's partially based on a knight that's in off-duty clothes and attending a ball. I've seen this sort thing quite often in many forms of fictional media.

>>29548374
It added a new type, the didn't erase the old one. Feebas still needs max beauty in ORAS

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>>29548448
Seiba was a mistake. Nasu should've stuck with Arcade.

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>>29542193
Or this one. Artist said the duskull is named Delilah and the spritzee is Elvis.

>>29548635
Only because he and Takeuchi let it spiral out of control.

Best girls are best when they're unique.

Oddly, I didn't mind Joanne of Arc though. (since, that is even a plot point)

>>29548374
They didn't retcon the beauty evolution in games without blocks/poffin you can still evolve it the regular way if you transferred it with max beauty.
What they did is give it an additional evolution method making it the only pokemon with two different ways of obtaining the same mon.

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>>29541808
Not only that bu the white on her is themed after what mangosteens insides look like when opened.

The hair is just a stylized stem area.

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>>29542193
>Female Machoke
>Male Gardevoir
As far as I am concerned neither of those genders exist on those two. Artist should down a gallon of bleach.

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>>29541734
Not really.

>>29541850
THIS on the other hand.

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>>29541734
Based off of the _initial_ design - no, they didn't. Based off subsequent art, its mega and community reception - yes, they probably know exactly what was going on.

It looks like a mildly ayylmao ballroom dancer to some people. I just think the line looks cute.

>>29549033
So basically you ignore reality, given that half of Gardevoirs and a quarter of Machamps are those genders.

>>29549521
People have turned a blind eye to greater things than the genders of some fictional characters in a children's video game.

Let him have his head canon, not like it'll ever mean anything or hurt anyone.

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>>29541850
We need more stuff with both of them.

>>29541734
If they made Gardevoir in gen 4, she'd be female only.

>>29541734
Nope. Not a clue.

The original design idea was a pokemon based on a knight in shining armor (See Japanese name: Sirknight, and english name Gard (Guard)evoir.) and the design bits are based on parts of armor. The "Hair" is a helmet, the "Dress" is a Surcoat, and the Red bit in the middle is a sword, which she got stabbed with when she jumped in front of you. See also Ralts (Wearing a squire's pageboy haircut).

However, Japan at the time accidentally made it super girly without really meaning to. Keep in mind this is the era of Gackt, AKA the era where Japan didn't realize how girly its prominant male figures looked to the rest of the world, so Gardevoir ending up that way makes some sense.

>>29542294
>retcon male gardevoir out of the series
Clearly you dont think either

>>29541734
its based on a knight
pervs

>>29551437
Knights are considered pretty romantic.

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>>29551437
What is this based on?

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>>29551237
Idk for me Gardevoir looked like a girl in a dress not a knight. Here a small edit to make it look more knightly.

>>29551670
kek

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>>29551237
>knight in shining armor
>Males are Arthur.
>Females are Saber.
Aight.

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>>29551670
What the fuck have you done?

>>29541734
No, they did not. It's just that the general appearance and habitus of japanese "males" has severely warped their understanding of masculinity.

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>>29543159
my guess:

Gardevoir was fully finished before they came up with Wally and how Ralts would be his signature Pokemon

After they finished Wally, they thought it would be better if he had a more masculine final evolution, so they designed Gallade but it was too late in the development cycle so he got stuck with Gardevoir until the remakes

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>>29548448

Soooo, does this mean I can still talk to fox her?

>>29551554
Literally a Playboy bunny. Keep in mind, that was Sinnoh, the era of furbait.

>>29551670
I think the dress is supposed to be a Gambeson

>>29543372
That would be terrible. Really, they shouldn't have made gallade male only.

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>>29541753
>Gen 5 was when they were overtaken by waifumons.

You mean gen 4.

Does anyone have that comic about the male gardevoir that gets addicted to it's owners kisses?

I use to have it but I lost it.

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>>29552823

What about Gen 6?

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>>29552823
They'll never top Lopunny.