Explain to me how Red and Ash now both canonically exist

has it occurred to you that Game Freak simply doesn't give a fuck and they included Ash to draw in people who like the anime and they included Red to draw in people who played the original games?

>>29512839
They just do.

>>29512839
one became champ, the other did not

The Ash in game is different from the Anime

Ash and Red aren't the same person I guess.

>>29512839
>Red
>Satoshi/Ash

I mean gosh anon you're right.

Pretty hard to figure out which is which! How could Game Freak do this?

>>29512839
Demo is from a different continuity than the game. They even said this in the demo teaser.

because IT ALL COMES TOGETHER

>>29512839
????

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>>29512839
>Confirms Red has canonically aged since his adventures in Kanto
>Meanwhile, Ash still being 10, means his adventures were retroactively confirmed to take place this year

Are they both from Pallet Town?
Yes.

Do they both have a Pikachu as their signature pokemon?
Yes.

That's where the similarities end though. Ash is a useless bitch nigga and Red is a hardcore motherfucker.

>>29512839
Red is simply older than Ash
a real question is how Gary and Blue exist in the same universe

>>29513031
Cousins that look the same

>uses a pikachu on his team on Mt. Silver
>people still don't think GF considers Red to be Ash

>>29512839
>now
Ash pokemon have been distributed before.

>>29512839
One seized his dreams and continues testing himself and his pokeymans.
The other is a perpetual preteen who keeps oakdumping and releasing his teams despite soapboxing about friendship with pokeymans; as a result, all he has to his credit is a backwater league trophy and a collection of novelty badges from a fatso in a shower curtain shirt.

Same character you say?

>canonically

Unless Ash gave away his Pikachu like 6 times in the anime, there's nothing canon about this.

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>>29512892
You know that Red original name is Satoshi because they are the fucking same person in two different continuities, right?

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>>29513120
>The other is a perpetual preteen who keeps oakdumping and releasing his teams despite soapboxing about friendship with pokeymans

"If you love something set it free"

>>29512958
Or he's been in a coma this whole time.

But HEY, THAT'S JUST A-

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>>29513031
Gary exists everywhere because HE IS GARY MOTHERFUCKING OAK AND YOU CAN'T IGNORE HIS GIRTH! Not even in the games.

>>29513165
Which is why Red is called Satoshi in Gen II/IV/V

Red is from the games.
Ash/Satoshi is from the anime, that can appear in the games.

How hard is this?

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Ash sucks TBQHWY.

>>29512839
>Explain to me how Red and Ash now both canonically exist in the same universe.
Red is a cool tough guy who doesn't say much because he focuses on training.

Ash is some faggot.

This thread makes me wonder how shocked people would be if Red appeared in the anime.

>>29512839
>he thinks the demo is actually canon to the game's story.
Retard.

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>thread about Ash
>most pictures are Gary

>>29512839
Easy, there's no concept of canon. Even since Gen1 there hasn't been a canon. When you literally insert GF employees into your game, you've lost all credibility in world building.

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>>29512839
>>29512958
>>29513031
The anime isnt canon, just a game counterpart of that character. All we know about game Ash is he beat the Kanto league then went to Sinnoh.

>>29512839
It's just a fucking reference to the anime, stop overthinking it dumbass.

1) We've distributions based on Ash's Pokemon before
2)The demo events aren't canon

Ash-greninja is just a cross-promotional tie-in but this fanbase has to make a theory about fucking everything.

>>29512839
Ash is his Illegitimate child? They're cousins?

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>caring about canon in pokemon

>>29513213
Ash was outright based on Red's original design, even taking his name from one of the names on the name list.

Also
>"In the Official Fan Book of Pocket Monsters (Japanese: ポケットモンスター公式ファンブック) from 1997, Game Freak teased the supposed appearances of Red, Professor Oak, and Giovanni in the upcoming Pokémon Gold and Silver games.[1] They called Red Satoshi (Japanese: サトシ), the Japanese name of his anime counterpart Ash, which is also the namesake of the creator of the franchise and one of his default names, indicating that this is what they originally intended to call him before settling on the name "Red", one of the two original color versions of the games."

>>29512839
Because you touch yourself at night.

>>29513265
The anime refuses to show male player characters besides in cameos, so that'll never happen.

ash is not canon, tc. it was just fanservice.

>>29512839
Multiverse time paradox

>>29513623
Yes, being based off a character certainly makes them the same character. Irrefutable logic

>>29513676
He's very clearly his anime counterpart, like how Gary is Blue's, unless you seriously don't think that.

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>>29513731
>Counterparts
>Still not the same character

Alright, so what's your point?

It's almost like Red was the protagonist in Red, Green, and Blue, and Ash was the protagonist in Yellow.

>>29513792
>>29513456

Ash doesn't actually exist in the universe you fucking retards. Only in the non-canon demo and as easter eggs

Ash-Greninja is no different from all the other event Mons that get distributed like Ash's Pikachu

>>29513760
>counterparts
>Red-Satoshi is from game universe, Ash-Satoshi is from ashnime universe

>now there's both, Red-Satoshi and Ash-Satoshi in the same universe
That's the point

>>29513456

>Ash
>Winning the Kanto League

Get outta here, anon

>>29513806
Ash's Pikachu was not nature/EVs/IVs blocked, you know. It was just a Pikachu with "Ash" as ID, unlike that ASH-Greninja.

>>29512839

Red got Charmander, his rival got Squirtle, and girl-Red took Bulbasaur. All three were already gone when Ash got to the lab and her got Pikachu instead.

>>29513868
Game Ash is less worthless than anime Ash. sounds normal to me

>>29513880
It's still the same shit

Greninja will never be acknowledged in the actual game

Do people unironically believe this or is it just delusional ashimefags

>>29512839
>Inb4 the whole plot twist of SM is that you are an autistic 11 year old and the whole game is you pretending to be in the Pokemon world.

>>29513961
This is the same fanbase that thinks the series is currently in a parallel timeline because of some conjecture from a side-character

>>29513165
You mean just like how Green is actually Gary and not Green/Blue?! Whoa!!!! That would mean Gary and Blue exist in the same universe!

Retcons are allowed, y'know/

>>29514014
Even as said character didn't offer any proof or explaination beyond "HAVE SOME IMAGINATION ECKSDEE".
But whatever because shes a waifu

I was walking on Route 3 two years ago when I saw something that would change me forever. I saw a small secluded area with a lot of tall grass. I could see two figures there that I instantly recognized from my days in training in the league-- Red and Blue. The two seemed like they were on the ground but as I got closer I quickly saw what the two were doing. Red had his pants down with Blues face and open mouth at his ass. I was shocked when I finally realized what I was seeing: Red was shitting in Blues mouth and Blue was eating it. I watched for a few minutes and it was over. Blue licked all the shit from his ass, cleaned it, & pulled his pants up. Then the two shared mouthwash, a toothbrush, and walked side by side to the end of the route. I will never be the same after what I saw them do. It was a shitty day for me.

>>29512839
Isn't Ash-Greninja simply a meta-pokemon named to have an already familiar connection with the random variant of a Pokemon and add it to the game for merchandise?

>>29514142
yes

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>>29514137
>it was a shitty day

>>29514014
>>29514045
Zinnia single-handedly ruined the cast of ORAS. No other character in the series gives me migraines like she does

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GUYS

WHAT THE FUCK

GUYS

THERE'S A LITERAL IN-UNIVERSE EXPLANATION FOR THIS SHIT

WHAT THE FUCK

All that happened is that Ash sent his Grenigger through a wormhole. Or maybe Red/Blue went through a wormhole. We've had a literal Time-machine as of Gen 2 - they can do interdimensional travel without issue

>>29514142
No.

>>29514312
>pokemon bank
>trade mechanics forming canon outside FRLG
its shit

>>29514312
>All that happened is that Ash sent his Grenigger through a wormhole.

No. In the anime, Ash left his Greninja in Kalos to clean up the rest of Team Flare's mess.

>>29513456
>The anime isnt canon
It is now.

>>29514393
Misty and Brock being in the games doesnt mean the anime events happened. It just means Misty and Brock are in the games.

The games added the anime's connection of Lugia and the birds, but that doesnt mean the movie happened.

>>29513456
But then Ash wouldn't even be in the same dimension as Red. How did he send his Greninja to the post-remake dimension?

>>29514367
FRLG can trade canonically with Hoenn through post-game
HGSS take place 3 years after FRLG like the originals
HGSS have the same Battle Frontier as DPPl, same characters as DPPl and thus take place around the same time due to connectivity
Said Battle Frontier, has Caitlin, thus linking BW to Gen IV as a direct sequel among other nods here and there

Anyways, the only shit that doesn't make sense is Gen VI because Game Freak forgot how to tell a story and Zinnia was allowed to exist

>>29514434
Oh but it did.

>>29514386
Obviously he went forward in time, grabbed AshFrog after he cleaned up, and sent him to Alola via spacewarping

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It comes together... It ALL comes together. By whatever means necessary.

>>29514447
XY was stated to take place about concurrently with BW2, which would make sense given the Colress reference. It wasn't until Episode Delta that people started getting stupid with the order of events.

>>29512839
Whatever it is, that Ash looks better than his anime version for sure.

>>29512839
ash exist in the demo not the full game

>>29514592
Ash is a trial captain in the full game.

>>29514592
This.

Technically, the MC in the Demo can't exist in the main game anyways.

>>29512839

because its a god damn PROMOTIONAL POKEMON AND HAS /NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLOT/

Why is this so fucking hard?
Is the autism just that strong?

Red is Pallet Towns MVP and its entire population of 6 celebrate his infrequent returns. Ash on the other hand is a complete embarrassment and is regularly sent letters to never come back.

>>29514142
Yes. But autists need something more than that, apparently.

>>29514446
maybe Yellow wasnt replaced. Yellow isnt really a normal third version, but an entirely different game. I'd say FRLG only replaced Red, Green and Blue, but Yellow stuck around

>>29514447
Oh I know all that, I just find the image stupid because of how it divides up the games and the reasons for doing so

Question: Can you transfer Ash-Greninja to the main game right away? And if so, how many faggots do you think will steamroll through the whole game with a ridiculously over-leveled Greninja?

>>29513371
good point. The Gamefreak office was in Celadon City in Gen 1. That's pretty world-breaking.

>>29514592
this, it was already stated (don't remember if it was in the SM page or the pokemon page) that the demo has its own story

>this butthurt over a children's cartoon

>>29513868
Pokemon: Special Pikachu Edition.

Maybe red and ash are cousins and just by coincidence both got pikachu

>>29514728
yes just like glalie, talk to kukui and you can transfer it right away

>will steamroll through the whole game with a ridiculously over-leveled Greninja

I will without reading anything, get a copy of lunala and UB beauty to trade for solgaleo and mosquito later, send it to my brother game to keep it safe and start a new one

>>29512958
>Ash will try to participate in the Island Trial because it's the hip new thing to do
>NPC says you must be 11-years-old or older to participate
>Ash will never do an Island Trial
kek

Pokemon XenoVerse for the Switch

Customize character completely with age n all, playthrough events throughout each region.

>Red and Blue go get their pokemon.
>Ash arrives late, gets Pikachu
>Red catches a Pikachu in the Viridian Forest

Ash is always one step behind him, that's why we never see him.

>>29513921
>is different, look
>S-STILL THE SAME SHIT

>>29513371
>>29514734
https://youtu.be/YYTzeF5wTlc?t=1m44s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXUe7joRUW0

>>29512861
/MOTHERFUCKINGTHREAD

>>29512839
In the anime Ash showed up after everybody else had gotten their pokemon, remember?

>>29515012
Yeah but that's a terrible example because MGS series feels more like a tv show than a real world. Like all the characters in MGS are actors playing a role rather than a real character. The past stuff where everyone is related to everyone and everyone knows everyone is super weak too. Same mistake as Star Wars.

>>29512861
HAHA HOLY FUCK.
/thread.