So Alakazam is one of Blue's signature mons now. He had

>>29512261
Alolan Raticate. For the memories and all

>Not having Blastoise

Hope he brought Kanto Exeggutor desu and it still only has three moves

>>29512261
Rypherior instead of Tyranitar.

>>29512261
Im pretty sure whatever he and red have will most likely have some kind of special snowflake abilities and moves

>>29512290
This Red is GSC Red. He has all three starters

>>29512290
He won't, because Red will have all three Kanto starters.

>>29512301
He's never had tyranitar you fucking retard

>>29512336
...I know?

>>29512290
His canon starter is Charmander Originfag.

Pretty much all gen1 official art has Red and Bulbasaur. And the one that doesn't Blue is featured in so it's likely his Charizard.

>>29512336
>I never played FRLG

He didn't have Alakazam in HgSs

>>29512336
He did have Tyranitar in the league rematch in FrLg

>>29512380
No, Red will have all three starters like he does in GSC and HGSS.

Blue will have none.

>>29512336
You're the retard

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OTLwtp_hyi8

Are you guys ready for red and blues broken mon abilities?

>>29512336
He's had it in both of his rematch team in both FRLG and HGSS faggot

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>>29512411
That doesn't change the fact that game-canon he starts with a Charmander.

It wasn't inconsistent like in later generations. Red always has Bulbasaur, and there is art of Blue with Charmander and Charizard too.

He's probably not going to have it but he'll pretty much never have Blastoise. There are even interviews talking about Bulbasaur being Red's canon starter.

>>29512261
>He had it in every game.

HGSS

>>29512477
He had it in the rematch, you tard.

>>29512524
No he doesn't faggot, see >>29512415
He replaces it with Machamp in HGSS

Ttar has been consistent in blue rematches both in FRLG and HGSS.

>>29512524
Not him but he didn't. HG/SS is the only game he didn't have his Alakazam despite it being in the original.

>>29512559
Two games isn't a constant.

>>29512261
>yfw Red has Battle Bond Kanto Starters + Pikachu

>>29512610
>Pikachu
Just like megas it's only for fully evolved mon.

>No Umbreon
>No Mega Pidgeot

Fug

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>>29512411
>>29512473
this

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So we do all agree that Pidgeot is Blue's signature mon right?

>>29512261
Alakazam or Pidgeot will get a Z-Crystal and the other will get a Mega Stone.

>>29512672
Why?

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>>29512672
>>29512746
Its his strongest member of his team in HGSS, so its implied to be his signature Pokemon in that game.

That and it was his first non-starter Pokemon.

>>29512746
It's the most consistent member of his team and it was his ace in HGSS. The only time it's ever not been on his team was in his FRLG rematch.

>>29512672
I would bet he'll have Mega Pidgeot. Makes perfect sense.

>Gym leader Green in Viridian city uses Rhyperior, Tyranitar (yeah, not Ground type, but close) and the early bird which appears next to his city
>Pokemon trainer Green in PWT uses Venusaur's substitute (Exeggutor), Charizard's substitute (Arcanine), Blastoise's substitute (Gyarados) and Alakazam, not Pidgeot

Looks like Green has two signature pokemon acording to his role. As gym leader, Pidgeot, as regular trainer, Alakazam.

>also Champion Green uses both Pidgeot and Alakazam
>in rematch don't use Pidgeot, only Alakazam
>31 years old Green starts fighting with Alakazam, same as Red starts with Pikachu
Yeah, his personal signature pokemon is Alakazam, Pidgeot is for work.

>>29513087
Seeing as he had Alakazam in PWT, and he didn't use it as a lead it isn't viewed as his signature, in fact during BW2 Blue is the only champ/gym leader that doesn't have a lead Pokemon.

>>29513087
He's not 31, he doesn't even look 31. He's 20. What is wrong with you idiots?

>>29513168
He does look 31 though. He looks kinda like keemstar and hes older

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>>29513206
>He does look 31
No he doesn't? He looks like he is in his late teens or a college student. But he is 20 because it is the 20th anniversary.

>>29512290
The canon red in the main series is confirmed to be from yellow

>>29513142
I'm inclined to agree that Alakazam is likely, given Red was shown with his Ace

Unless GameFreak is gonna be fagolas and make Mega Charizard X his ace

>>29513241
>red was 10 in 1996
>red was born in 1986
>2016 - 1986 = 30

>>29513268
Seeing as Blue's team is not his Yellow version I can't really agree with that.

>>29512336
What did he mean by this ?

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>>29512261
>signature mon is a trade evolution
Who did he trade it from?

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>>29512294
>yfw this is the first non-Alolan Exeggutor you see in-game

>>29513241
>is 20 because it is the 20th anniversary

Or is 20 years older (aka 31) because it is the 20th anniversary, you delusional cunt.

>>29513296
Why are you using real world time? Because in universe they aren't.

>>29513296
>red was 10 in 1996
He was 11
>red was born in 1986
??? Source?
>2016 - 1986 = 30
Real life year =/= ingame year

>>29513302
He had it throughout the game starting with Abra. He just traded it to evolve

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Good thread

>>29513319
Now why would they be 20 years older

Explain to me please where the logic in that is coming from. You think the gap between BW and HGSSDPPt was 10+ years?

Instead of being, say, 20 years old which is more probable and more likely, because it is the 20th fucking anniversary.

>>29513296
Red is 12 you dip

>>29513408
Actually in the RBG manual, it says you're 11.

>>29513408
In the US and Japanese manual of RGBY he's 11, Blue is also the same age as him. In the UK manual they're 10.

>>29513330
>??? Source?
Math

>>29513453
What math? Where did you get the numbers from to do the math?

>>29513368
>you think the gap between BW and HGSSDPPt was 10+ years?

Team Rocket unovan grunt is a single young man in HGSS, but a older bland and married man in BW, who have a 7/8 old son, so... yes, without a doubt there's a lot of years between BW and HGSS

>>29513468
His ass.

>>29513483
>but a older bland
He was using the generic biker sprite as his over world sprite, like how he had a generic rocket grunt sprite in HGSS. This isn't a very useful thing to go on.

>>29513363
HE TRADED IT WITH WHO NIGGA
TRADING TAKES TWO PEOPLE
WHO IS THAT OTHER PERSON

>>29513520
Still all hints point towards HGSS being 10 or more years apart from BW

>>29513483
>Team Rocket unovan grunt is a single young man in HGSS
Never stated or implied

Which people don't understand. That same Grunt said that he was going to re-establish Team Rocket in Unova, but he never did. He then moved out to Unova anyways. What people seem to not understand is the possibility that he was already a married man and just moved out to a different region. He was probably in Team Rocket to get money for his family. That's just speculation on my part but no one seems to consider the idea that he already had a family.

>>29513541
I dunno, Bill?

>>29513564
He fell in love while he was in Unova, that made him give up on bringing back Team Rocket.

>>29513564
Is working for a criminal organization really the best way to provide for a family? There's infinitely better options, even Team Magma, Aqua or Galactic aren't as bad as Rocket

Maybe married or dating, but having to support a child on evil money doesn't seem ethnically correct. Look what happened to Silver

>>29513541
>Who did he trade it from?
Nigga don't get fresh wif me when you axed the question all stupid

>>29513607
>>29513541
Please don't say the n word dude I know youre just trying to be funny but its not

Do you guys think we will have a remastered red/blue battle theme in sun and moon?

Are you guys retarded? His son says that his dad had a cool job in another region, which meant he was already born when the TR Grunt was working for Team Rocket.

>>29513602
>Is working for a criminal organization really the best way to provide for a family?
I don't know, ask a person that sells drugs?

>>29513520
He have a 7/8 years old son, that's a very useful thing to go on. There's about three years between RGBY/RSE (1996/1997) and GSC/DPPt (1999/2000), a decade between GSC/DPPt and BW (2010), about two years between BW and BW2/XY (2012/2013) and about three years between XY (2013) and SM (2016). RGBY is in 1996, SM is in 2016, deal with it.

>>29513541
Probably one of the millions of bitches who wanted his dick and wanted to helped him?

>>29513648
Or he told him he had a cool job while raising him.

>>29513638
Nigger detected

>>29513648
So are you trying to imply that events of BW takes place 4-5 years after HGSS since that rocket grunt's child is alrealdy borned?

>>29513564
this >>29513598 BW is far away from HGSS-DPPt talking about both time and space.

Let's not forget that during BW N castle incident we have NPCs gloating about how rocket, Magma, Aqua and Galactic plots failed because they didn't hide themselves well enough.

Ingame wise the events of BW happened after all the other games for that reference to be made. I can't believe people often miss that one.

>>29513722
No. I'm trying to imply that BW takes place two to three years after HGSS. Red and Blue are most likely 20 years old so doing the math

>FRLGRSE (Red is 11)
3 years
>HGSSDPPt
2 years
>BW
2 years
>BW2/XY
2 years
>SM (Red is 20)

>>29513741
There is literally no proof that BW take place more than 2 years after HGSS and DPPt besides a Team Rocket Grunt who could have easily already had a kid during that time gap

>>29513795
>I can't believe people often miss that one.
What are you talking about anon? There is no one here arguing that BW doesn't take place after all those games.

>>29513638
Nigga isn't the Nigger you retard.

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>>29513870
>grunt comes home, plans Team Rocket resurrection, falls in love, leaves the criminal life, marries and have a 8 years old kid
>in 2 years

>>29513795
No what people seem to miss is the reference ORAS made in the Oceanic Museum about the Royal Unova being in construction. The Royal Unova is presumably the largest ship in the Pokémon world. The Oasis of the Seas is the biggest ship in the real world. The Oasis of the Seas took 6 years to finish construction. So going off this, lets say BW takes place 6 years after Gen 1/3

>>29513870
The proof is Caitlin. She's quite older, I'd say around five years. Also you have to add some extra time each journey takes.

So Red is around 25.

>>29512604

He isint in half the games dong diddler

>>29514065
Caitlin is 14 in HGSSDPPt. 3 years later, she's 17 and she looks 17 or in her late teens in BW.

>>29514065
>>29514130
Caitlin's hair reaches her knees in BW when it's about hip-length in Gen IV

Thus we will determine this by the average length of woman's hair growth to reach that long

>>29514065
>25

He is 20 years old guys.

>>29514065
>I think Catling should look older, even if canonically she stops growing before BW because two years later in BW2 she looks the same, also even if is literally impossible to TR grunt's son being so older 5 years later than HGSS
>that's a proof

>>29514130
>bw!caitlin
>17
Yeah, no. Late teens I may take. So around 19, aka 4 years between Johto/Sinnoh and BW. I said around five, sue me.

And again, you're not accounting for each jouney time. Each story takes a lot of time. Red STARTS at 11, but he's probably 12 by the time he becomes Champion. Same with each game. There is an extra year or two to add to the math.

>>29514272
"Should" look older? No, she looks older. We're talking her design between Platinum and BW. The fact GF got lazier later doesn't the first growth isn't there.

>>29514276
>There is an extra year or two to add to the math.
Where are you getting any of this from? Where is any of this stated?

>>29514276
Did they give any hints on caitlin's age in best wishes anime? I'm sure cynthia knew Caitlyn even before events of BW begin.

>>29514276
It doesn't take a year to walk a circle around a country, anon

>>29514336
Fucking logic? Do you actually think it only takes two months to go around a whole region, walking all the routes and going through caves?

>>29514375
>Fucking logic
When has it taken anyone a fucking year to travel a country?

What is wrong with you anon? You actually think all the villain conflicts and shit actually last for years?

>>29514358
Let's not mix canons, please. Caitlin's age in Platinum is 14 as stated in a blog post from GF according to bulbapedia, but we don't know more than that.

>>29514359
But it's not just a circle. It's exploring forests and caves, going after a Pokémon, training, etc. Maybe not a year, but put together tons of 6 months for each game. That's a year or two to the final number.

>>29514375
It only takes a week to drive across the United States. Why would it take 2+ years?

>>29514412
I didn't say a year per game. I said a year or two to the final math, it's putting together all the different games journeys. Red doesn't start his journey ON his birthday, he is eleven and something.

>>29514336
He's stating that it takes each MC a year or two to get through the entire region

Which is wrong for at the very least OrAs due to the Litleonid Shower

>>29514495
See >>29514532
Also, the characters are on foot, and I imagine they spend a couple of days in each place, so it's a couple of months.

>>29514532
>I didn't say a year per game. I said a year or two to the final math
But that's wrong. A few months, sure, but no journey takes that long.

>>29514569
The Litleonid Shower is only named during the Delta Episode. Is there a reference I'm missing? It'd be cool to have more time references.

>>29514691
...I didn't say a journey takes that long. We're talking about Red's age here. See this >>29513870 list. Four games in there. If we say three months per journey per set of games, that's an extra year to add to the *final math*, which is the point people don't seem to be getting.

I think five years pass between Johto/Sinnoh and Unova1. So the pure math in that list gives me 23. Adding the extra year I mention and probably some months between BW/XY and SM, Red easily becomes 24/25.

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>>29514317
Older than how looks 24 years old-Caitling (BW), dude. Anon thinks a 24yo-Caitling should look older than this, that's not a proof, is just assumption.

>>29514830
But nobody said Caitlin should be 24? Anon said 17 and I think around 19/20 in BW.

>>29512261
where the fuck is Vaporeon?

>>29514870
His Eevee evolved according to your fights against him, so we'll never see him with an Eevolution, because GF doesn't like making anything canon.

Unless they give him all (Kanto) three like they gave Red the starters.

>Red was 11 when RGB starts (game manual)
>Brendan was 12 when ORAS is close to end (according to Pokenav plus news)
>implying GF would do a protagonist older than Red

Obviously when gen 1 starts Red and Brendan are 11 but when gen 3 ends they are 12

>>29512876
Most consistent's actually Exeggutor, Pidgeot is missing in Black 2 and most rematches, the only time he doesn't have Exeggutor is when he has Venusaur

>>29514861
>not getting it
Anon said 17yo-Caitling is BW-Caitlin, so an 24yo-Caitling should be older than BW-Catilin. That's anon's assumption, but reality is BW-Caitling is 24yo-Caitlin and anon is retarded.

>>29514902
Most likely to be Umbreon to counter Red's Espeon.

>>29512261
Pidgeot
Alakazam
Rhydon or Machamp
Gyarados
Exeggutor
Arcanine

>>29514973
They replaced Espeon with Lapras in HGSS and that's what he took to the PWT, so I don't think we're seeing that Espeon ever again.

>>29512661
I like how Suigimori's old art resembles Akira Toriyama a little bit.

>>29513468
>Where did you get the numbers from to do the math?
1996 - 10 = 1986


If we use your 11, it's 1985 instead.

>>29512672
I seem to recall an interview where Pidgeot's status as Blue's ace was cited as part of the rationale for giving it a Mega Evolution. So yes.

>>29513306
IS THAT HIS STAND?

>>29512261
>his team
>only one
>not using a pool of Pokemon and swapping them out, using all the Pokemon he's had before and some new ones he picked up
Unlike Red who you never rematch with a new team (afaik) we know Blue swaps 'em out. He has two Pokemon that can have megaevolutions to pick from. He's got two of the 4 trade-to-evolve originals to use, plus he'd probably catch new Pokemon in Alola so an Alolan Golem would continue the trend. He'd probably want an Alolan Exeggutor as well but he'd still keep his old stand-by.

>>29512261
>>29512290
>>29512336
are you people actually fans of the series? just curious because you'd know these answers if you actually played the games and remembered the details like a fan should
just saying

Blue's Ace is Mega Pidgeot now, Alakazam being thrown out first confirms this because Blue has always used Pidgeot first except in HGSS where it's his ace finally
Blue does not use a starter in his GSC or HGSS or BW2 Teams; having him use a starter then canonizes which starter Red took, which Gamefreak does not want to do.
Blue uses Tyranitar in his rematch team for FRLG but never again, same as Heracross. I would guess Rhyperior, Machamp and Tyranitar would be the 3 potential choices for his 6th team member but that'll purely come down to Gamefreak, because Rhyperior is mediocre and Gamefreak is known to swap out Pokemon that are known to be unused, in order to make the Champ level teams in game seem more legit

>>29513206
>He looks kinda like keemsta

What the fuck? No.

>>29513468

he's 11 years old in 1995...so 1995-11.
Shit stop playing games and go back to school.

>>29512261
where is machamp?

>>29512261
ufw all his pokemon can mege evolve in battle

How much you wanna bet Red uses mega Charizard X

>>29516001
In HGSS he replaces Gyarados with Tyranitar for the Dojo rematch.

You ignored that fact in purpose.

Pidgeot
Arcanine
Alakazam
Exeggutor
Rhydon/Rhyperor
Gyarados

This is fact.

I think the entire thing that makes Blue special is that he doesn't have an ace, he actually did catch them all. At least in the regions he's been in. He has a very wide variety of powerful pokemon at his disposal and he usually won't have the same six with him at any two given times.

Everyone else has an ace sure, but again that's what sets Blue apart from other trainers.

>>29516283
Maybe

>>29513322
>Why are you using real world time?
Because the real-time clock in GSC uses the real time.
Unless years in pokemon have 500 days or something

If they don't give him a Kantonese Exeggutor I'll be pissed.

>>29512415
holy shit that's such a horrible fight.
Fly on Xatu, focus punch furret, I couldn't stand to keep watching.

>>29512261
>Alakazam
>Arcanine
>Gyarados
>Exeggutor
>Machamp
>Mega Pidgeot

>>29513300
He catched more pokémon after Yellow.

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Hopefully they don't ruin his team by giving him a gimmick Gen 7 mon just to shill the new gen.

Looking at you, Steven's Carbink. I will never not be mad.

My guess
Alakazam
Tyranitar
Arcanine
Gyarados
Exeggutor (could be his alolan form)
Mega Pidgeot

>>29519473
You seem to have a lot of irrational hatred.

>>29519303
Using Fly there was actually a good move though if his intent was to stall out Trick Room.

I always thought it was weird that in the PWT they randomly gave him Aerodactyl. Like, why? He never used it before.

>>29512261
>Gary is now gay
I hate alola.

>>29512290
He's more likely to an Eeveelution than Blasty

>>29519536
I hope Red uses Espeon instead of Lapras this time.

>>29513322
Wrong.

>"July 20, 1969! Humankind first set foot on the moon that day. I bought a color TV just so I could watch that news."

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>>29512473
>>29512661

>>29512261
who did he trade to get that alakazam? did he trade his kadabra to someone and then trade for his kadabra back?

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>>29512672
Mmmm... nah

>>29519519
That was his Fly user in Special

>>29516001
>Blue's Ace is Mega Pidgeot now

>No mega bracelet

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>>29519550
Bulbasaur = 3
Charmander = 1

Bulbasaur wins

Blue's team is possibly the same as in BW2
>Alakazam
>Gyarados
>Exeggcutor
>Aerodactyl
>Arcanine
>Machamp

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>>29519585
Bulbasaur = 5
Charmander = 2 or 3
Squirtle = 1
Pikachu = 2

>>29519519
Manga version had one.

It was quite iconic for Anime version in his career choice.

>>29519578
>Alaka = 12
>Pidge = 11
>Rhyd = 10
>Arca = 9 - 12
>Exeg = 8 - 10
>Blast = 6 - 9
>Gyar =5 - 8

Blastoise is not for gary.
Yes, Alakazam is his Ace.

>>29512289
that was be hilarious if they snuck that in there

>>29519580
Red was the one that had Aerodactyl in Special.

>>29515806
EXECUTOR REQUIEM: THE WORLD

>>29519578
It was funny how in the GSC arc of Pokemon Special, they went out of their way to make Red and Blue's teams match the games.
Blue already had Pidgeot, and then he temporarily traded his Charizard for Red's Gyarados and captured Arcanine, Rhydon, Exeggutor and Alakazam and added them to his team for no real reason.

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>>29519623
Bulbasaur = 6

Red chose well.

>>29519705
Who is that girl?

>>29519725
Blue, of course. She was planned to be in RG, but never happen until FRLG

>>29519705
>Bulbasaur = 6
>implying it wasn't Red's charizard

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>>29519782

>>29516001
>Champ level teams in game seem more legit
>Steven

I don't think Red would be threatening considering he is using non-mega Kanto starters and Pikachu.

Unless Gamefreak allows Red to use mega on all three.

>>29519882
It's probably going to be Mega-Charizard X + z-move pikachu

>>29519882
He has a Mega bracelet anon.

Either one is likely
>Uses Zard X
>Mega is random
>All 3 like you said
>Red-Pikachu

Anyway, hope it's Zard X/Y, Pikachu has light Ball, Snorlax has his Z-move and he has Espeon instead of Lapras. L

>>29519899
>>29519912
Using mega on any of the starters will run into the same "which starter is canon" problem.

>>29512380
God bless you sir, this man gets it. Red started witha Bulbasaur through and through. They only gave him Charmander in Orgiins to make him have a Charizard X at the end.

>>29519951
We already know it's pikachu. And charmander is the first one he got after him.

>>29519951
He has a Mega bracelet.

Pikachu cant mega. Snorlax cant mega. Lapras cant mega. Espeon cant mega. No new megas in the datamine.

He's going to have a Mega starter, they can bypass that problem by having him Mega evolve all 3 because he's suuupa speshul or just make the Mega evo random each time you fight him.

>>29516001
Dude they gave Cynthia a GLACEON.
A GLACEON.

>>29519986
What? pictures?

>>29519986
>>29520008
Nevermind, you are talking about PWT

>>29512289
And when you rematch him he doesn't have it anymore

>>29516283
Either that or Blastoise or Venusaur

>>29512380
Have you ever considered that canon can, and has been changed, retard? But of course, being a contrarian snowflake also means being an anti-charizard fag

>>29519985
or make the mega the starter with an advantage on yours

>>29516170
The in-game year isn't equal to the one we live in. DP take place three years after RGBY ingame but comes out 10 years after RGBY in the real world. Hell DPPt come out 2 years after FRLG in the real world.

You guys are retarded.

>>29519473
>not knowing what shilling actually means
>>>/v/