And in one fell swoop, Gamefreak ruined Ghost type's perfect

>>29504144
Cute pun, faggot.

>>29504144
>hoopa, the sandcastles, honedge, gourgeist, Dusknoir
>good

>>29504227
You leave Gourgeist out of this!

>>29504144
>my mom's sandcastle
>My mom's sword
>my mom's candle
>my mom's balloon
>my mom's disembodied skull
>fucking gourgeist
>good

>>29504144
>swoop
because it's a bird, you guys

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>>29504144
Thanks for giving me a name for the birb OP

>>29504250
No
it ruined based pumpkaboo

>>29504261
>doesn't like aegislash and drifblim lines
Terrible taste.

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>>29504144
>this is terrible
You were not a Ghostfag to begin with.

>>29504338
>voltorb and grimer are bad because they're just shit with faces
>honedge doesn't even have the decency to have a face but people cream themselves over it

explain this

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>>29504144
This is good?

Nah, ghost has some of the worst designs. Perfect record my ass.

>>29504261
>>29504227
>Not liking those
Nice bait

Nice pun, OP. Ruined probably isn't the word for it, but whatever.
Also, Decidueye is a Ghost type because the owl he's based off of are Hawaiian spirit owls in Hawaiian folklore.
They're called Pueo, if you wanna google it.

>>29504527
>Banette
>bad
no

>>29504484
Well he's got an eye, first of all.

I think people like Honedge and his evos because he's a cool concept in general. He's a cool sword thing, just floating around with that sash it uses as an arm that also can steal souls. It gets cooler in practice when it's Aegislash, because then you get to see it stance change and then slice into people. To me, he seems like a cool bro-mon to have around.
It helps that he's good in the meta, as well.

>>29504227
>Dusknoir
I think you mean Dusclops, anon. Dusknoir saved the Duskull line form ending in a shit design.

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And? What is the point if he doesn't even have any Ghost-type aspects to him in his design? He doesn't fucking look like a Ghost-type by no possible angle, same with the shitty cat receiving the Dark-type. It is clear they just realized they fucked up with their designs and went with a retarded type-decision they should've went when making the FUCKING DESIGNS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Now we are stuck with a Fire/Dark pokemon that looks like Fire/Fighting and a Grass/Ghost pokemon that looks like a Grass/Flying. Absolute GARBAGE.
Why couldn't this be dark-type? what makes this mroe ghost than dark? Every single ghost type in Pokemon is associated with or does something something paranormal. I can't think of one exception. Some of them are more literal ghosts than others like Cofagrigus versus Jellicent who is just ghost because its said to feed on souls. Jellicent is notable because it actually wasn't concepted as a Ghost-type, but made Ghost to balance out types in the Pokedex of BW, so that's about as far to that side spectrum of being Ghost type versus the opposite side of being an actual ghost as you can possibly get that and STILL has the the soul sucker that haunts sunken ships thing to try and justify it. Decidueye has nothing. We know the concept of ill omens and such are at least as Dark as it is Ghost because of stuff like Absol and Murkrow, and at least they acknowledge that that's the concept behind them. Decidueye doesn't say anything about it being a bad omen or having spiritual associations or anything.

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>>29504144
>Gamefreak ruined Ghost type's perfect record of designs.
Ghost type was dead on arrival since the beginning.

>>29504261
Your mom owns a lot of weird shit.

>>29504144
THANK YOU

OWLFAGS CANNOT BE MORE ASSBLASTED

>>29504144
>Gourgeist
>Sandygast/Palossand
No

>>29504144
>Dusclops
No.

>>29505187
Being a contrarian doesn't make you smarter/look cooler. I tought the endless shitposts thought you this ?

Decidueye is best bird.

>>29504144
"Fell Swoop" would be the perfect name for this guy's unique ghost-type move

>>29505249
>contrarian
I bet you hated Bronaught last gen faggot

FAGGOWL CANNOT COMPARE TO CHESPINS LINE BOTTOM LINE

There's something very subtle about its design that makes a lot more suiting as a ghost or something that could be perceived as ghostly without it being "WOO ITS A SPOOKY PURPLE/BLACK MONSTER." I'm not going to point it out because if you have half a brain and look at it for two seconds you'll see what I mean, but once you know that trait, imagine this HUGE bird flying around at night making almost no sound and being able to hit things from half a mile away, and all you can see is this trait I'm talking about if you even get a glimpse of it. That's what makes it a well designed Ghost type Pokemon.

>>29504227

>Gourgeist
>Not good

You should fucking burn in Hell you absolute monster waste of human life.

>>29505068
>impliying
Duskull is the only good desig of that line
Its rhyhorn 2.0

>>29505288
You have to be 18+ to post here.

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>>29504144
>Best grass starter since Torterra becomes a ghost type
>anything but an improvement to ghost as a whole

>>29504144
Shut up faggot.

They ruined Ghost back in gen 1 with Haunter's terrible evolution.

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>>29505302

>>29504227
>>29504261
>>29504337

How can be this much concentrated bad taste in one thread? Samefag? This isn't fucking Vanillish it's a cool jack-o-lantern pokemon. I seriously have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with you clowns.

lmao what
>Good Ghost designs
Duskull
Dusknoir
Cofagrigus
Trevenant
Sableye
Honedge
Golurk

>Mediocre Ghost designs
Misdreavous
Mismagius
Banette
Golurk
Chandelure
Aegislash
Jellicent (M)

>Absolute shit
Everything else

>>29505288
I almos feel bad for choosing chesnaught instead of greninja for faggots like you
Bet you're choosing the mermaid

>>29505319
You mean best Grass starter since Sceptile, right? Torterra sucks.

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>>29505302

>>29505399
Best doesn't inherently mean good

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This is the best shiny and best Ghost you fucking actually disgusting tasteless faggots. Just like /mu/. You get so deep into a subculture that it starts to mess your mind up and fucks with your perception of things. Get off this boars for a few weeks minimum.

>>29505520
Your the one that has shit taste here, Senpai.

>>29505375
>Golurk is good and mediocre at the same time

>>29505317

This.

>>29505204
And again

>>29505375
And again

Get the fuck off my board before I beat you up.

Hey guys, Decidueye can't be flying-type because it can't fly and use it's wings as a bow at the same time. When they realized it, they dig for another type, and then found out the owl spirit thing and said "Hey that's cool". I prefer a Grass Ghost with ghost features not clearly defined rather than a concept full of bullshit, with a flying type that can't attack with its fucking signature move while flying.

Oh, and gamefreak won't change anything, stop being mad for things you can't change.

>>29505399
>Torterra sucks
Yep, this is "shit taste incarnated: the thread"

>>29505547

Shut the fuck up and lick my asshole, bitch.

>>29504144
Implying a sandcastle and pumpkins make good designs. Unless you just wanted to make that "One fell swoop" pun, cause if that is what this is about then good job.

>>29504263
>implying owls are birds

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The Shiny's pretty cool for Ghost colors.

>>29505564
>it can't fly

>>29505585

I'm out too. Never seen shit taste like this in any thread. Abhorrent even for /vp/ standards.

>>29505585
Takes shit taste to know one, Sinnohfetus.

It's a forest shaman summoning spiritual forces. It's a pretty good design. It's a shame it isn't Ghost/Flying though. Grass sucks.

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>>29505609
You're kidding right?
It was an opportunity to use classic ghost colors.
Instead we got the worst shades of green you could think of.
And its especially a shame because of how great the base design is.

>>29505609
How does one obtain a shiny starter? What do I have to do?

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>>29504327
Truth

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>>29505598

Stop fucking samefagging already.

>All of a sudden 90% of the board hates Palossand and Gourgeist
>I-I'm not a samefagging Decidueyefag, I swear!

>>29505520
I feel like they ruined gourgeist with the sizes changing stats, i only want to use the supersize one

Delete this thread and start over

>>29505665
But pile of sand and gourgeist are shit.

Eh, Gourgeist is mediocre, but sand is dogshit.

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>>29505372
Nothing personel kid.
That being said, I do like this picture.

>>29505673

So use the XL one. I have a shiny XL, the size gets passed on through breeding.

>>29505665
I like Palossand but hate Gourgeist, and I like Ghost owl

>>29505630
No one cares about Torterra aside from a select few Sinnohfoeti and Unovabortions. Charizard, Blaziken, Sceptile, and Greninja are infinitely more popular and have wide appeal instead of just being my mom's tortoise but with a tree and spikes.

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>>29505520
While it's a great shade of purple, this is actually the best shiny and most well designed ghost.
Gourgeist attempts to poop all over what Pumpkaboo established.

>>29504227
>honedge
>Dusknoir
>gourgiest
Shittiest taste confirmed

wouldn't ruining a perfect record always only take one fell swoop

>>29505699
>>29505727
cringe

>>29505699
You have it reversed anon.
Have you even seen Pallosand's shiny?

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>>29505735

Fuck it.

>>29505373
>putting a dildo in a jack o lantern and then giving it a wig is one of the best designns in pokemon

ok

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THIS IS A REAL GOOD GRASS STARTER

MOVE ALONG FAGGOTOS

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>decidueye
>looking bad at all
It's not a traditional-looking ghost, like Gengar or Mismagius, but that doesn't mean it looks like shit.
Darker greens for the hood might've benefited it, though.

I just wish it had some aspect of being a ghost in its design, in the colour scheme or otherwise. I have no problem with the concept, it just doesn't come across in the design

>>29505115
Owls are basically the physical manifestations of the spirit world in Hawaiian mythology. People's ancestors inhabit the bodies of owls to watch over the living.
There's also a story about a princess called Ka-hala-o-Puna, who kept getting killed, and she was repeatedly brought back to life by an owl.

Decidueye also loses the Flying type because Hawaiian owls make their nests on the ground.

Game Freak doesn't hit you over the head with the Ghost-typing, but it's there.

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>>29505645

I am also upset at the missed opportunity to make the shiny look more like a ghost type.

SM has been nothing but disappointment from day one.

>>29505662

Soft reset and re-pick the same starter over a hundred times until you get lucky.

>>29505924
That's fucking hideous.

>>29505886
This.

I'm not big on the ghost-like ghosts anyway, so this really isn't a problem to me. It just made me scratch my head is all.

>>29505886
maybe if people would stop refusing to 'let' ghost be anything other than 'dead' shit and realize ghost is 'spirits' and spiritual stuff they'd stop getting autism a owl is ghost.

>it's based off an extinct owl (if you need the dead reference)
>Owl are considered a preferred physical form for spirits in Hawaii culture (again supports ghost)
>He has a hood and a pseudo cloak with his wings, again more spiritual imagery, as much as roguish.

>>29504144
>swoop
Isee what you did there

>>29505983
Jesus. I thought there was a better way. And people get happy when starters have cool shinies? This is mental.

>>29505847
>It's not a traditional-looking ghost

There isn't a single ghost that's as un-ghostly as this shitowl.

>>29505562
>rhydon is bad

>WAAAHHH STOP GIVING ME VARIETY

ghostfags are such fucking faggots now holy shit
what happened? they used to be bro tier

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>>29505375
>shiting on spirtomb
One of gen 4's few god tier designs, fuck off

>>29506034
They still are, it's just faggots like OP false flagging.

>>29505819
THIS SO MUCH

>>29506016
No, normal people just hack them.

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>>29505645
Dude, that's a pretty nice teal.At least it didn't get the Ursaring treatment.
>inb4 what about espeon
Espeon looks good green because it looks like Carbuncle.

>>29504144
I know, it's awful.

>>29505727
t. Hoennigger

>>29506028
Yes, it's the worst design of the line. Rhyperior at least salvages it a bit.

>>29506076
Teach me, senpai. I might buy a 2DS later this week and I need to learn the ways. The last Pokémon games I've played were all on GBA.

>>29505150
Kek.

>>29506034
Don't group me in with these bitches.
It's not my fault that they think that the ghost type is exclusively reserved for the generic phantom/possessed object when it's very clearly stated that the ghost type can be applied to animals that exhibit odd and unexplained behavior, animals that can commune with the dead, or animals that ACT IN A WAY BEFITTING A GHOST.

God, /vp/ needs a purge.

Stop bitching, owlmon is my second favorite Ghost behind Palossand

It's going to be hilarious when it gets an insane HA and diverse moovepool. Then all these crybaby faggots will claimed to have loved it the whole time.

Go cry more, cunts. No one cares if you don't like it.

>>29505302
>imagine this huge bird flying
>flying
>f l y i n g

>>29506119
>buying a 3DS now
You're fucked, as simple as that. It will have the latest firmware locking you out. Either find a old ass model and hope it hasn't been used in awhile or pray that they get around the current firmware.

>>29505609
Looks like a fuzzy Hawlucha.

>>29506023
Drifloon?

>>29506208
It's almost entirely air and floats around eerily. It fits ghost perfectly.

I love how people can't make these basic connections yet they force the most grasping headcanon to justify this owl.

as a flyingfag part of me is kinda mad that ghostfags stole one of the best starter designs

>>29505375
>chandelure is mediocre
fucking what

>>29505924
terrible

>>29505847
>gengar and mismagius don't look like ghosts
w...hat....

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>>29506170
>Stop bitching, I have shit taste

Thanks for sharing

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>>29504144
>>29504261
>>29504484
>>29505204
>>29505244
>shitting on pokemon designs
A reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have

My only complaint is the name.
>Decidueye
>is not a deciduous plant
Making it orange (dead leave supports the Ghost typing too) would've been a huge improvement concept-wise.

But Game Freak's using a lot of Hawaiian mythology this time around (more than they did with European myths for Kalos, that's for sure), so when you do your research it all comes together.

But I'm still mad that it's not actually deciduous.

>>29506259
>reading comprehension

>>29506299
Blame TPCi

"Junaipa" is just ju (tree) + sniper.

>>29505924
What the actual fuck is that shitty color scheme.

Carry on, I'm just here to watch monkeys fling shit at each other.

>>29505924
Thanks doc

>>29504144
As a design, it's absolutely brilliant. Greninja tier (non-Ash). Intelligent, humorous, quirky, recognizable. But not as a Ghost type.

There's been a growing trend in Pokemon of putting inappropriate typings onto new Pokemon to sort of "fill out" the pool of monsters, almost like they only just realized they didn't have x/y type so they should do one.
Case in point: See Dragonite's line. Originally a very rare Pokemon, its unique typing gave it an awe-inspiring quality and its own special edge in battle. Of course, they were never going to confine an entire type to just one Pokemon family, but they did a good job of keeping that type rare and mysterious until gen 3 when they slapped it on a shitload of legendaries, a shitload of weird half-designs and a fucking antlion. Since then it's been a god-damned free for all with Dragon type.

Now in gen 6-7 it seems to be all about Fairy and Dark, with some old Pokemon literally given alternate forms just to accommodate it. There's a mantis Pokemon which is pure Grass. There's a fairy with a flower bigger than it which is pure Fairy. Now there's a mother fucking Grass/Ghost owl Robin Hood.

I don't even fucking know anymore.

>>29506190
Not true, and the current firmware will be downgradeable within a month anyway.

>>29506293
Literally all better then most pokemon.

>>29506392
Oh fuck really? I wasn't aware, that sounds great. Source by any chance? Just curious.

>>29506387
Lurantis's typing is actually justified by its design. It was clearly designed from the ground up with the theme of a "reverse" orchid mantis.

Decidueye on the other hand clearly had ghost slapped on it as an afterthought.

>>29504227
>>29504261
At least they're all real ghosts.

>>29506455
>real ghosts
>real
>ghosts
Think about what you just said.

Well alright, my turn:

>Good Ghost designs
Gengar
Banette
Drifblim
Mismagius
Dusknoir
Froslass
Giratina
Chandelure
Aegislash
Trevenant
Gourgeist (what the fuck happened that suddenly everyone hates it?)
Decidueye
Mimikyu
Oricorio Sensu
Alolan Marowak
Lunala

>Okay Ghost designs
Sableye
Rotom (default)
Cofagrigus
Golurk
Hoopa

>Bad Ghost designs
Shedinja
Jellicent
Colossand

>>29504144
>Perfect record
That stopped at Gengar.

>>29506423
But you have to know that in advance about lurantis. It literally looks like a bug type. Oricorio sensu style is just purple, is that enough to "look ghost type?" If you are willing to concede that the concept of a reverse orchid mantis is enough to justify lurantis' grass type, then decidueye being an exaggeration of the nocturnal, shadowy, leave-no-trace nature of owls is enough for it to be ghost type. It's more abstract than you're used to, but you'll be okay

THE BURB IS A GHOST?

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>>29504227
>>29505598
>>29505699
>>29506112
>>29506394
>STILL shitting on pokemon designs
Fine. Get a bigger load of it.

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>>29506293
>Shitting on mah nigga Mistank

STOP RIGHT THERE, DON'T BE A FAGGOT

>>29506423
>>29506497
Wait what I don't get it

So you're telling me Lurantis is a flower that looks like a bug, not the other way around? Even though it's based on...a bug that looks like a flower?

>>29506483
>shitting on based Pringles Man
Now THAT'S where you fucked up.

>>29506497
The argument isn't about what type it "isn't," it's about what type it IS. Lurantis would be fine either grass/bug or pure grass just based on design. Decidueye could be all sorts of types, but ghost isn't one of them.

Being a stealthy predator doesn't define a ghost type. Tons of Pokemon fit into that category. Just like extinct species. It's a flimsy asspull.

I don't give a fuck about muh ghost type

NEWS FLASH: ITS SHIT

cant wait to get my shiny chesnaught from bank or maybe gf will be smart enough to give us a maga evolution and all will be right with the world

fuck owlfags. almost as delusional as foxfags

>>29506530
Right, that's what anon I replied to was referring to. Lurantis is based on the orchid mantis, a bug that looks like a flower. Lurantis is a flower(grass type) that looks like a bug(not bug type)

>>29506563
>liking Chesnaught

>>29506503
If I'm totally honest, I always thought musket samurai were pretty cool. It'd be an interesting concept to see brought into Pokemon, though I'm not sure how they could accomplish it.

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>>29506483
>sableye
>cofagrius
>FUCKING GOLURK
>mediocre
Fucking fight me. Those first two are signs of shit taste but fucking golurk, the coolest pokemon ever created, is over the line.

>>29506530
Yes, it's reverse mimicry. It's not an orchid mantis, it's a mantis orchid. That's fine.

NOT being a certain type isn't the issue here. No one is saying Decidueye HAS to be a flying type. But ghost is not one of the types that works on it, anymore than fire works on Lurantis.

>>29506581
yes,m and its better than this piece of crap

deal with it

>>29506562
No, you have a double standard. Lurantis doesn't look like a grass type at all. No visible leaves or petals. The point is that you don't decide what a ghost Pokemon is, ghost Pokemon do. You had a definition of the ghost type. That definition has been outdated and needs to be replaced. Ghost type is the "shadowy, mysterious, incorporeal type" now in addition to the "undead, spiritual, and haunted" type it used to be. Why are you like this anon? Change is okay. Ghost, dragon, and fairy have always been narrow design spaced. GF broadened them this gen.

>>29506003
Again, I understand why they made it a ghost type based on context, but personally I feel like it didn't come across in the design, and like most people I was pretty confused when it was revealed; it was only after learning about the stuff you mentioned that it made sense. There's just very little immediate connection to the typing. Like how am I supposed to know it's an extinct species of owl from the design, or that its related to spirits? All I see is an owl, and all i would say is that from the design alone you really can't tell that it's a ghost type, hence why everyone was so surprised it wasnt grass/flying.

>>29506563
>cant wait to get my shiny chesnaught from bank or maybe gf will be smart enough to give us a maga evolution and all will be right with the world
I'm hoping that there's some surprises in the National Dex. I know there probably WON'T be, but I'm hoping. Alola Chesnaught, Battle Bond Chesnaught, Mega Chesnaught... I don't care which, but the Kalos starters other than Greninja need some love.

If not in Sun and Moon, hopefully in whatever game comes next.

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How do other designs even compete?

>>29506422
Even the SM3DL bundle which came out only a month or so ago was on 10.7. Chances are if he buys a new 2DS it'll be on an outdated firmware.

Someone's working on a kernel exploit that will allow you to do the DSiware exploit without another DS or something to that effect.

>>29506680
>No visible leaves or petals
nigger

>That definition has been outdated and needs to be replaced
Because gamefreak was too lazy to adapt a design to a type instead of just slapping it on? So you're defending Gamefreak's laziness and lowered standards of quality?

>>29506680
>No visible leaves or petals
It's nothing BUT petals. Are you blind?

>>29506706
>10.7
Damn didn't know that, I thought they were on 11.0. Anyway I didn't know anyone was making a new exploit, assumed they said fuck it and decided to call it quits at the current firmware.

>>29506687
This is the first rational post I've seen you make on this. My response would just be that there is plenty of precedence for a pokemon's type not being so ham-fisted in the design that it has to beat you over the head with it. Most of us accept decidueye as a ghost type because we know what owls are like. Honestly, I prefer the subtlety here to if we had say gotten a Dracula owl instead. I much prefer the aesthetic of a forest phantom archer, as it's a pretty conservative and well-established fantasy trope. Remember that rowlet's line are the grass starters first and foremost. Ghost is more like the prestige class that the final stage can pick up

>>29506811
>not being so ham-fisted in the design that it has to beat you over the head with it
Nigger, this design doesn't have the slightest connection to ghosts. Failing to convey its type in the slightest or having any reasonable connection to it is a design failure.

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>>29504144
>implying this didn't already ruin it

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>>29504144
Your perfect record was broken when it started.

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>>29504337
THICC

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>>29506755
>>29506729
Stylized to the point that you only see them as petals because you know it's grass type. It could just have easily have been pure bug or pure fairy based on looks alone. What it isn't does matter, because you are using the same logic to arrive at different conclusions here. Lurantis gets a pass because you know what an orchid mantis is and the abstract part of the design makes sense. However, you also know what an owl is, but you are unwilling to abstract about it's context in the design. Decidueye is the ranger to greninja's assassin. Keep in mind, greninja doesn't look evil either any more than decidueye looks dead. It's just that ninja's are morally dubious by nature, which the audience has to know to get the reference. Similarly owls are spooky and associated with the occult, which GF is expecting you to get as a given in this case as well. They'll further expand on it's ghost type when we see its move pool, and when it appears in other media. Just like every other Pokemon since the beginning of the franchise

>>29505435
Best literary is the superlative of good you inbred

>>29506856
Just BEING an owl is more than enough connection to ghosts.

>>29506856
Except that it is an owl.

>>29504227
I think OP already stated that, yeah.

>>29507030
I actually completely see the Ghost typing in Decidueye. It took me a while and I had to look up "owls in Hawaiian mythology" to get it, but I see it now.

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Seeing /vp/ discuss ghost types is giving my brain cells a good scooping of mass genocide.

>>29506856
It's not even just an owl. It's a hooded figure in the night, renown for it's silence.

>>29507030
>Stylized to the point that you only see them as petals because you know it's grass type
That's the problem. You can learn that Lurantis is grass and reasonably deduce that it's made of petals. Even knowing that Decidueye is a ghost, you can't make any logical connection to it from the design.

Dark is an incredibly broad type defined by dirty fighting and negativity. Dark would fit owl just fine considering its fighting style. Ghost had much more specific criteria, until now, when Gamefreak threw it in the trash because they were too lazy/incompetent to adapt the design to their afterthought.

Fucking every animal in existence has some sort of spiritual context. That doesn't mean you can just make a generic animal with no spiritual features and call it a ghost type. Especially when its secondary design elements are the opposite of occult.

>>29504261
>>my mom's balloon
>>my mom's disembodied skull
That escalated quickly

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Archer = Sniper

>>29505115
A wrestler based entirely on doing dirty tricks like dark type would. Where fighting is meant to be an honorable warrior. Also the reason it is Ghost type is the specific owl it is based on the pueo is known in Hawaiian mythology as a possible form for a reincarnation of their ancestors' spirits. And there have been a few Pokemon this gen based on Hawaiian mythology like Alolan marowak based on fire dancers and the night marchers. Also a lot of times the Pokedex entry can go further into it's connection to spirits.

>>29505068
>it just gets bigger
>good
wew

>>29507030
>Pure fairy because it's pink
I hate this meme

>>29507156
Ghost being shadows is fine enough for me, thanks.

>>29504261
>>my mom's disembodied skull
sounds like a pretty spooky ghost design to me

>>29507349
Decidueye isn't a shadow.

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>>29507302
Literally none of its evolutions are "it just gets bigger"

>>29505068
You're completely right. Dusknoir is the best design in that line, though Dusclops is good.

The real problem is Duskull.

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>>29506293
excuse me good sir,but i invite you to get a load of these and be grateful for what YOU have

>>29506877
this one at least vaguely implies its dance might be a communion with the dead or some shit

>>29506502
see
>>29507395

>>29507156
Find me one spooky story involving a pika. How about a quail? Owls are classically spooky. They are a common Halloween image. The hooting sound they make has been associated with ghosts for longer than this has been a franchise, anon. Owls lend themselves as well to ghosts IRL and orchid mantises do to flowers IRL. Owls
>only come out at night
>they don't make sound unless they want to
>the sounds they do make are iconic for their spookiness
>they can rotate their heads 360 degrees, exorcist style
Decidueye takes these things and hyperbolizes them into a fantasy creature with a ranger theme.
>Passing without a trace taken to the next level (not rowlet and dartrix are not ghost types, and thus have not yet developed their powers), decidueye now has access to the variety of steal techniques ghost type provides, and can't be trapped in battle
>can use marksman theme to perform shadow magic tricks such as pinning the foe's shadow, hyperbolizing the predatory nature of owls
>extraordinary senses possessed by owls can become supernatural now
All in all, the concept it very natural. There aren't any final starter evos where the primary type takes a backseat to the secondary visually speaking anyways. Just accept that this has been happening forever, you just weren't used to it with ghost types before now

>>29506595

I said okay, not mediocre.

I just don't like them as much.

>>29506483

I forgot one

>Okay Ghost designs
Spiritomb

>>29507324
More because it looks like being charming is it's schtick. It's only pink because it's bass on a pink animal

>>29507156
Ghost type pokemon have had specific criteria, but ghost type moves have not.
>Astonish
>Lick
>Shadow Claw
>Shadow Ball
>Shadow Force
>Shadow Sneak
Sneak attacks and shadows are the defining attributes of ghost moves. Obviously there's some overlap between dark and ghost when it comes to sneak attacks, but they can easily be classified as one or the other.
Decidueye's whole thing is stealthily assassinating targets from afar. He hides in the shadows, then silently picks off his target, with the only trace of his existence being the arrow he fired and his red eyes glowing from the darkness. He makes perfect sense as a secondary ghost type.

>>29507438
>they can rotate their heads 360 degrees, exorcist style
Nice catch.
I think I'll name mine Pazuzu.

>>29504144
>Not liking my mom's owl

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>>29507523
Fair enough I suppose.

It's ghost because owls are the spookiest birds

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>>29507595
>not liking owls

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>>29507668
>Implying owls are birds

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>>29507395
>shitting on pokemon designs
>in 2016
This is a toughie. How about a load of this?

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>It's okay when Oricorio does it.

>>29507689
niggerfaggot

>>29507776
Oricorio only does it 25% of the time

>>29507438
>Find me one spooky story involving a pika
What?

Mimikyu is an eldrtich abomination using a patchwork pikachu costume. Nothing to do with stories. You're the one relying on muh lore, not me. Lore is just one justification, but the design needs to reflect the lore for it to work.

All of those things can be applied to almost any predatory animal. Rotating head does not justify ghost type. Owls are sometimes depicted as spooky but there is nothing spooky about this owl. The ghost connection is virtually nonexistent unless you choose to interpret it in a way opposite to its design. Even its description isn't particular to ghost, it's just nondescript stealth that fits any predator. Supernatural senses aren't ghost related, they're psychic.

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>implying that he's bad
>implying that any ghost type is bad
try harder, you suck at bait

>>29507958
So it COULD have been Grass/Dark or pure Grass or Grass/Flying, and yet you're complaining that it gets to be Grass/Ghost because it's not purple enough?
Kill yourself my friend.

>>29508194
It's not anything ghost-related enough

Keep strawmanning though

Decidueye has ghost type slapped in

>Owls are spooky
Not this one

>It's based on an extinct animal
Not enough, other Pokemon also are

>It's sneaky
So it's greninja, umbreon is dark type because it's a night Pokémon
Sneaky is not spooky
hiding in shadows is dark,being a shadow and paranormal is ghost

>Owl are an omen
That's dark,you know absol

>It's a deadeye snipers
So it die to become a better archer?

>Shadow powers
That one move is ghost because Decidueye is ghost
Archer's aren't known for their shadow powers nor spooky channeling

Greninja is dark because it's a ninja, umbreon is dark because the night, darkrai it's dark because is the void/new moon. What makes Decidueye ghost because is an owl "maybe"
The owl's lore and it's move is what make it ghost not the desing nor inspiration and the lore doesn't help establish it's connection
Everyone knew the over the top villain is dark the magical myth creature is fairy people only started guessing ghost because we were told it's connect to shadows

Decidueye is ghost ok is fitting for on owl, but not this one, and it's unique dual typing, my issue issue is THAT ROWLET AND DARTRIX WHERE A BETTER FITTING TYPE

All arguments above are decent but, not good for it's ghost type, especially if it's pre evo are a better typed for it, plus torchic and plipup weren't flying even if there flightless birds, doduo and dotrio are solely because there birds it
It least now it doesn't have a 4x weakness, and now has 2 immunity

Are we messing somethig, at it stands makes no sense, why did a starter changed it's 2nd type in it's last evo they could have at least not given flying type to rowlet and dartrix

Any ideas, or if this they not caring any more considering that tapu bulu is grass no fire (it flamethrower I mean come on) and fini is water not ghost and pikipek evolves into a literal toucan (a Pokémon that evolves into an animal)
(Thanks for baring me)

>>29508194
Misdreavus is a ghost, and it's green.

Dusclops is too, and it's gray.

Frillish and Jellicent are blue and pink.

Honedge, Doublade and Aegislash are silver.

So what's that about "it's not a ghost because it's not purple enough"?

>>29507364

kek

>>29508485
What about the Hawaiian mythology associated with the pueo which is the specific owl it based on? You know the one that has them being the reincarnated spirits for their ancestors.

>>29508485

Who the fuck cares?

Seriously?

Ghost grass is an amazing typing and will be fun as shit.

>>29504261
Tell that hoarding bitch to have a yard sale already!

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>>29508721
>Misdreavus is a ghost, and it's green
Anon...

>all these replies to a shitty bait thread
is /vp/ the worst board? I'm guessing >85% of users are underage and easily baited

It's actually just a really well designed Pokemon. An usher that serves the spirits of the dead in forests by guiding them to the afterlife (similar to the real Hawaiian mythology of the owl its based on).

The theme is consistent from Rowlet and taps into many similar tropes of what's basically a "Ghost Butler".

>>29509198
Actually a poll was took some time back that did indeed show that the majority of /vp/ was underage. In fact /vp/ has more underage posters than any other board.

>>29509021
>Misdreavus is a dark --->bluish-green<---, ghost-like Pokémon. While it has no visible arms or legs, its lower half has several small appendages and resembles a ruffled ...

Here, I pointed it out for (You)

>>29505313
Nice autism rage

>>29505131
STOP

>>29506601
I think Ghost works fine on it. I mean, it's just a typing that reflects its affinity for stealth. It's like Mawile, Lucario and Solgaleo being half Steel. The connection just isn't immediately obvious.

>>29505373
>>29504250
Different Anon who hates it here

Its trash, mostly the long weird neck and really just out of place pink "hair" which is awful

>>29508928
she can't because of the skull situation

Not this shit again.

>Denialfags still this triggerred

>>29506483
fucking atrocious taste
good ghost designs: all of them
bad ghost designs: hoopa

Hey, fuck you.
Decidueye's super fuckable.

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>>29504227
>Not liking Alf Layla Wa Layla the Pokemon

Get a load of this faggot

>>29506293
>hating on Based Majinmutt

Sounds like fighting words to me bob

>>29511776
Lucario is not a model for good design.

>>29504527
Consume your own penis you tasteless freak.

>>29506483
>Shedinja
>bad

I wish I could find wherever you live and kill you, so you live in despair for all eternity as a ghost, you fucking asshole.

>>29505115
>Copy-pasted his rant from the other thread he made.

Lol. What a stupid bitch.

>>29512338
Hoopa is only a ghost half the time.

>>29507046
being the best of the worst doesn't mean you're good senpai

>>29504144

>Pokemon literally has an X on its chest

Wow since when did gamefreak start browsing 4chan?

>>29505616

>Anon thinks levitating is the same as flying

>>29505924

Implying shinies aren't shit game design that prey on peoples autism. Wait a decade and each ingame pokemon will probably have its own color scheme, probably based off of based stats.

But will it learn Brave Bird?

>>29505924
my fucking eyes

>>29515309
Nah, I'm guessing they'll do alt colors based on what season the pokemon was caught in

>>29504527
This anon confirmed for shit taste, I bet you also like to kiss girls faggot.

Isn't the point of a really spooky ghost for it to look alive?

Can a ghost not wear clothes, armour, or in this instance; a hooded birdman costume?

And, apologies for double post, but there's been a lot of talk of owls and spirits in this thread.

Has anyone even bothered to use their favourite search browser to check the phrase "Robin Hood ghost"?

No? Go do it then you uneducated schmucks, I'll wait.

Anyone reckon it's HA is gonna be sniper?

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>>29505920
Underrated post holy shit.

So many of you assholes keep conflating your ignorance with "bad design"

>>29504263
>implying owls are birds

It's literally just a gastly wearing glasses and a hood, what's the problem?

>>29504144
literally fuck ya'll niggers who think this is a "bad design" and shit typing. get your shit tastes and retarded minds in shape

>>29507024
i hate that fucking face

>>29504261
Nice taste.

Gourgeist is nice, but would be dark instead ghost.

>>29506293
>Shitting on USO
Someone's asking for these hands

>>29507776
I can sort of see where fire and electric come from but why isn't the grass skirt one grass or water?

>>29505665
>All of a sudden 90% of the board hates Palossand
>"SUDDEN"
Shit castle never was good.

But Ggt hate is just "u waifu is shit" meme. And still not good enough.

>>29507395
>>29507432
This isn't Gen IV's dex!

>>29504144
Best starter and the one who will get less amount of porn.

>>29506299

it's deciduous because it's a ghost anon :^)
>it shed it's flying type at maturity

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>>29507712

>The second last picture
>They know

>>29506269
stay mad

The first ghost line remains the worst one and always will be. They only looked good in gen 1.

>>29519395
Brave of you

>>29504227
I only agree with Hoopa

>>29519395
I agree but they looked way better in gen 1, I still don't think they're the worst, though.

>>29505249
> thought
oh boy

>>29512795
Eh. I'm pretty neutral about Lucario. It's just there. But it still holds for Mawile and Solgaleo, imo.

>>29504144
oops you accidentally posted a picture of decidueye instead of palossand

>>29519138
Probably. Wish it would get Stakeout, tho. With Stakeout and some decent coverage moves and access to Swords Dance, it'd be top tier.

>>29519466
There was only one fucking line

>>29507689
AYY LMAO

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>>29504144

>Fell
>swoop

........

>>29505288
Not the same anon, but hey I love Chesnaught and Decidueye

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>>29504144
>Fell swoop

>>29504144
You're not even trying to be funny, stupid bastard

>>29504144
Decidueye is overdesigned crap.

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The majority of people in this thread are fucking garbage and should kill themselves.

>Gourgeist
Good
>Decidueye
Good
>Palossand
Good

This are inarguable facts.

>>29520757
>This are
I gotta go to bed.

>>29507670
AAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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>>29505115
yes, thank you for being the first person to point out that decidueye has nothing ghostly about it's apperance. "owls represent ill omens" doesn't mean shit when noctowl is just normal/flying. that said, you can handwave it as just having supernatural powers for no particular reason and I'd still be fine with it. magical archers are cool yo. damn shame that my ghost slot is gonna be filled by pic related.

>>29521052
>noctowl is just normal/flying
Because gen 2 was boring and terrible and just a rehash of gen 1.

>>29504144
Those legs ruined it. Guess I'm stuck picking water yet again.

>>29521076
I will concede to your point there. the only good pokemon from gen 2 was the lavitar line, scizor, granbull, and the legendaries.

>>29505131
Underrated post

>>29513337
the best of the worst literally means "the most good AT being the worst"

stop being retarded and study english

>>29504144
It's not a ghost, it's a grass type that ghosts

>>29504144
>My mfw when Ghost is my favorite type and I have been pleased with every ghost type we've seen this gen
Sorry that your type doesn't have a 100% track record, mon frere. I would probably kill myself if I was a bugfag.

>>29521379
'Best of the worst' means who is the best among the worst. It doesn't mean 'who is good at doing bad'.

>>29505131
Fuck off, Carlos. Ultros will always be better at puns than your wetback ass.

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Which is better

>>29521093
>being mad at a design element that its inspiration actually has

This board is pathetic.

>>29505375
Is this the worst taste of all time?

>>29506705
Doesn't look like a ghost = shit ghost.

>>29521483
red

>>29506483

Gengar is shit anon, it's just a stupid looking fucking purple Clefable shadow, and ruined what could have been a cool line after Haunter.

>>29521483
mid

>>29504527
>Banette
>Bad
End yaself

>>29521423
This

>>29505609
beautiful

>>29521487
Where exactly did you see me being mad? Are you mildly autistic?

>>29506028
It's bipedal, so yes.

For real tho it's not that important

>>29506016
Its even worse in XY because you have to watch the same nickname and friend introduction scene hundreds of times.

>>29521483
REMOVE GLASSES

>>29519315
So wouldn't it make more sense for Dartrix to be Ghost-type and then swap back to flying?

This "outrage" over Decidueye's typing feels really manufactured.

Like someone said, "Huh, this is pretty cool, but what would a sad lonely nerd do to complain about it?" and typed it out as a joke.

But then they kept repeating it so it stopped being funny.

>>29504144
So are you another contrarian who wants to hate on Decidueye's design just because it's the best out of the three?

>>29525434
Why does all that even need to exist? It doesn't.

it would've been better if it had gray wings

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>>29506502
>>29507712