Is the Pokémon "Are you a boy or girl?" thing outdated?

>>29493115
FUCK YOU

Why the fuck would you just copy-and-paste a Neogaf post just to shitpost.
How pathetic is your life, man.

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If you get even digits you will lose your virginity and your favorite game will be created but if you get odds you will stay a permavirgin forever and only play bethesda games

Allah was right. Death to America

Plenty of biologically born intersex people refuse to associate with a certain gender.

I certainly don't think asking if you are a boy or girl is an enormous issue, but it is a somewhat outdated concept that could be improved in future games in order to be more inclusive to those who truly don't associate with either gender.

You can make the argument that the game is just asking if the character is a boy or a girl, but what if you don't want them to be either? It's easy to say "Too bad", but that ignores the bigger picture.

>>29493115
Reminder that the target audience is CHILDREN

Children generally do not make up genders. They considered themselves boys or girls, unless raised by bad parents.

>>29493120
>this bait
Why should pokémon accomodate the mentally ill? What next, wheelchair ramps for pokécentres?

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>>29493115
>tfw no game with sliders where i can be a cute femboy
why live?

How many fucking threads do you have to make about this? Fuck off.

oh my god we have like four fucking threads about this right now

>>29493115
>Be 24 yo
>My avatar is going to be either a literal kid

This was fine when I was a kid too but now it's just not fine.

>>29493126
Yeah, welcome to /v/ - politically incorrect

>>29493115
OP is a fucking faggot, but the truth of the matter is that SJWs will actually go ballistic over this once the game releases.

>>29493118
i'm so sorry for you.

>>29493123
How come we never see any pokemon in wheelchairs or casts? No way a pokemon is gonna take a rock slide and come out with no broken bones.

>>29493115
Sun and Moon don't ask for gender. They show both in different skin toes and you select one. Also nipps dont give a rats ass about p.c

>>29493115
There are only two genders. Each describes the typical behaviour of a biological sex. If you're in-between, it doesn't mean that you're a new gender, it just means you're atypical.

>>29493115
Fuck back off to NeoFAG and ask them. Oh, wait, you already did!

>post pasta even though there's another more popular thread with a screenshot of the source as the OP
genius

>>29493133
There are more than 2 genders, whether you personally believe it or not.

>>29493120
>being a boy or a girl is an outdated concept

So this is how the world ends.

>>29493136
Can you fucking read what he posted?
you either have a vaggo or a benis, 2 fucking genders

>>29493115
jfc why are there so many threads about this
is this really what /v/ has become, the neogaf stupid thread observation and discussion station?

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>>29493136
>cant tell if posts like this are satire anymore

TAKE ME BACK TO <2008 /v/ REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>29493115
> I mean what if someone in real life went up to people and asked that question?
They do. In plenty of situations you're asked if you're male or female.

>>29493136
There are only 2 genders, whether you personally believe it or not.

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You better have a good explanation, /v/.

>>29493136
being retarded is not a gender anon, whether you personally believe it or not

>>29493142
>>29493138

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender

Ignorant scum.

>>29493138
that's sex and sex is literally a spectrum. go back to school.

>>29493145
So now im a scum for my personal belif? gonna imprison me next for not agreeing with you?

>>29493141
only if you look and sound androgynously irl. in online situations it's of course another story.

>>29493119
Bin Laden is an unsung hero.

>>29493115
>tropical setting
>distinctiv lack of brown girls

how is this allowed?

>>29493115
Then just pick one and move on. At least you can customize your character in this one so just pick the one that you dress more like.

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If an RPG fan game can include this, so can a multi-billion dollar company.

>>29493115
kill yourself liberal

>>29493143
Pokemon are more real.

>>29493152
Not using
>of do you think you (r brain) are/is/their/they/there not fully evolved
You had one job.

>>29493143
Fuck YOU

>>29493115
just stop giving a fuck

>>29493118
roll

>mods move a shitpost thread to /vp/
kek

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what is the point of this

>>29493123
Devil's advocate, but what does being intersex (i.e. a hermaphrodite) have to do with mental illness. If you have both a dick and a vag, is it really mental illness if you decide to not identify with either gender? Just ignoring all this trans business, nobody else can really define which one you are and be right if you have both sets of equipment.

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>>29493115
I'm on my hands and knees, BEGGING you to kill yourself.

>>29493143
Am I the only person that saw the thumbnail and thought the bottom part were a bunch of Unown?

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>>29493116
first post, best post

>>29493115
>I mean what if someone in real life went up to people and asked that question?

People do ask you this tho, especially in medical documents. However it's usually on paper and not a verbal question.

Would you be happy if they did it Animal Crossing style with "Cute" and "Cool", whereas if they accidentally misgender you they correct themselves that you are a cute boy/cool girl.

Also, Pokemon Go straight up gave you customization and then avoided pronouns entirely. No personalization at all there.

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Nigga, go fuck yourself

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>>29493115
>It basically asks your gender and there is only two choices.

Nothing wrong with that, disregarding rare genetic anomalies, there's only two choices, this is a biological fact. If one identifies as a transgender, genderfluid, "demiguy" or whatever, (?) I don't give a fuck, but this theory have no basis in reality.

Only millennial white people think the opposite, thankfully they're going to become a minority in both Europe and North America by 2050 and hopefully the islamic culture will take over. Religious fundamentalism is less disgusting than progressive fundamentalism.

>>29493340
Nope I saw the same thing bro

>>29493116
was about to say the same i guess what they say is true FPBP

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I want to die.

>>29493340
nigga you me?

>>29493572
let's keep transgender out of it because it acknowledges boy and girl as the two genders and has a basis in reality.

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The problem was solved

You're a lowlife faggot.

>>29493675
> has a basis in reality
Yeah it's a fucking mental illness go treat yourself.

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>>29493117
>you just copy-and-paste a Neogaf post
>tfw you werent lying
neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1302083&page=1

Hunger Games thread?

>>29493115
There are only two legitimate sexes and no amount of fuckery can change that

>>29493115
get btfo'ed and go to where you came from (tumblr)

there are only 2 fucking genders

>>29493744
once the game comes out i need a mod of this

Hold up, I'll fix it.

Penis size [0-10] (write 0 for no penis)
Penis type [human/canine/horse]
Eggs size [0-3] (write 0 for no eggs)
Vagina size [0-10] (write 0 for no vagina)
Vagina type [human/canine/horse]
Ass size [1-10]
Breast size [0-10] (0 for flat pecs)
Clothes can be equipped on all characters, regardless their bodies.

There, have fun.

>>29493118
If even, this counts as a valid roll. If odd, this roll is invalid.

>>29493120
This pisses me off to no end. Being intersex is a birth defect where one is born with an underdeveloped reproductive system, not a fashion statement. Which means infertility in most cases. SJW trenders can go fuck themselves.

>>29493115
People are biologically male or female. In rare cases, intersex, but that's not the focus. Young kids don't know exactly if they're gay, lesbian, trans, that's a process developed on their teenager years, and even on that time it's confusing for them.

Pokémon shouldn't go on this route. It's a series made for kids and allowing other non-biologically options would only make kids confused, whether they identify or not with them.

How come the game doesn't ask if I'm retarded? It assumes I'm not retarded. I'd feel more comfortable playing a retarded character. Pretty ableist, don't you think?

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>>29493675
Quite frankly, I disagree, certain gender roles are partially social constructions, but gender itself is purely biological, a non-fetishist (autogynephilia) transgender woman is objectively a very feminized homosexual male. This kind of behavior also happens fairly often in nature, it's especially common among black swans.

However, no one is going to say that a male black swan expressing similar behavior is a female "on the inside", it's just a male black swan expressing homosexual behavior, that's all. It's the same thing with humans, but since we have consciousness, some people try to theorize what causes this (natural, but atypical) behavior and some others try to relativize gender.

I don't believe in gender identity, but I have nothing against transgender people. However, the trangender theory has given the left-winger retards a pretext for spreading all their bullshit like the pic related.

>>29493744
The most disgusting forum I've seen in my life. Even worse than Rev-Left.

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>>29494089
Why would you want a mod of his signature hat after he's lost?

>>29493118
but I already lost it famalam

>>29494956
I'm more interested in fictional things created for my enjoyment, rather than those created to annoy me.

what the fuck

>>29493744
Fuck this site. You can't shit on Pokemon for looking too feminine, you can't talk about how sexy a character looks in a game, and now this shit.

Reminder gender is a social construct that classifies you as boy for being on the stereotype of masculinity (humans with dicks seem to act the same) or a girl for being feminine (fags and baginas).
At most, a third gender (neutral) can exist, nothing more.
It doesn't make sense that you act like a sex that doesn't exist.

>>29493118

That's sad

>>29494890
>Quite frankly, I disagree,
good for you.
>but gender itself is purely biological
exactly. gender identity is widely assumed to be neurological.

http://www.transgendercare.com/medical/hormonal/brain_sex_diff.htm

http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/131/12/3132

it's not about the expressed behaviour. it's rare but dyke mtfs and femboy ftms exist. it's about what body and what pronouns you feel comfortable with.

>>29493118
Roll

>>29495839
If you were born with a dick, you're male
If you were born with a vagina, you're female
Everything else is mental illness

>>29493116
FPBP.

>>29493143
Pokemon have a better chance of being real than those ridiculous genders

>>29495880
Agreed.

>>29493152
That would mess kids up

>>29495880
Pretty much, yes.

>>29493115
WERE YOU BORN WITH A WOMB, VAGINA, OVARIES, AND A PAIR OF LIPS WITH A PINK STUD THAT IS MEANT TO BE BEATEN UP LIKE THE HO YOU ARE

OR ARE YOU A FAGGOT ASS-RAMMER WHO GOT BORN WITH OVARIES ON THE OUTSIDE IN THE FORM OF TESTICLES AND A MICROPENIS THAT STILL BAFFLES SCIENTISTS TO THIS DAY?

OR WERE YOU BORN WITH BOTH AND ARE AN UGLY LOOKING SON OF A BITCH?

WHICH
FUCKING
GENDER
WERE
YOU
BORN
AS
MOTHERFUCKER

THIS
WILL
DETERMINE
WHETHER
THE
GAME
SEES
YOU
AS
A
BOY
OR
A
GIRL

YOU FUCKING LIBERAL IDIOT
GTFO

>>29493115
here we see yet another SJW faggot who thinks the entire fucking world has their shitty western values.

>>29493115
>what if someone in real life went up to people and asked that question?

They'd answer boy or girl, you collosal retard. Anyone who isn't an eager to be offended special snowflake will answer the question with no problem.

Go push your agenda somewhere else and stop being a pathetic cunt here.

>>29493152
fuck of tumblerite

>>29493115
If you associate with neither or both, you're a special snowflake who needs to fuck off back to tumblr. Besides, 'Are you a boy or a girl?' is iconic and needs to remain there forever.

>>29493143
Because Charmander doesn't go "Squirtle, Squirtle!"

Its fucking stupid, there are only a restroom for men and women, ummmm like, excuse me? What about the other 50+ genders? Seriously, we're shat on just because we're not a boy or girl, I don't understand why we're treated so horribly for literally no reason but cops tackling down a black man will get them payed leave.

>>29495880
This

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The thing with /vp/ is that we can't discard this as obvious bait

>>29493572
Why transgenders not just pick the opposite gender of their biological one?

>>29493145
>Wikipedia
EVERY SINGLE TIME

>>29496099
Classic

>>29493152
>filename
Not surprised.

>>29496129
Because it's not unique enough for them. Transes have so little personality that they use gender identity as a substitute.

t. Someone who hangs around a ton of LGBTs in uni.

>>29493118
Roll

>>29493116
fpbp

>>29495993
ALSO THERE ARE ONLY FEW SEXUALITIES

1) DO YOU SLIP N SLIDE WITH ANOTHER FEMALE GETTING STIMULATION BY VAGINAL TO VAGINAL FUNGUS ONLY?
YOU'RE FUCKING LESBIAN FAGGOT. IF YOU'RE BARBIE-HOT THEN THAT'S COOL BUT IF YOU'RE A DYKE, FAT, AND NASTY THEN GTFO AND KYS.

2) DO YOU LIKE TO SUCK THAT MOTHERFUCKING PENIS SO HARD THE CUM BURROUGHS THROUGH YOUR DAMN SKULL AND FLOODS YOUR BRAIN TURNING YOU INTO A CUMGUZZLING DUMPSTER-KUN NYANYA AMICUTE SEMPAI SHITFUCK WEEB? OR TAKE THAT COCK IN THE ASS BY ANOTHER MALE PARTNER? LIKE THE TIME YOU WERE MOLESTED IN THE CATHOLIC SCHOOLYARD?
THEN YOU'RE A FAGGOT. A LITERAL REAL MAN TO MAN FAGGOT.

3) DO YOU EAT THAT PUSSY AND TEAR DOWN HER THROAT LIKE A RAVAGING BEAST WITH YOUR RAGING BONER OF FUCKYOUDOM HAVING SENSUAL OR SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH THE OPPOSITE GENDER AND LOVING THAT SHIT AND NOTHING ELSE?
THEN YOU'RE A STRAIGHT FAGGOT WHO IS EITHER A SLUT WHO LOVES ROASTBEEF BY 21 OR IS A GOD AMONG MEN WANTING TO KNOCK'EM DOWN AND CATCH ALL THE STDS. OR SETTLE WITH ONE BITCH AND BE A BORING FAGGOTFUCKER.

4) DO YOU TAKE IT IN THE ASS AS A FAGGOTWOMAN AND MUFF DIVE WITH YOUR TONGUE IN A SEA OF SOME WATERY HONEY THAT TASTES LIKE MY MOM'S SODA WATER? THEN YOU'RE THE MIDDLE ROAD BI SEXUAL WOMAN. THIS IS THE MOST ACCEPTABLE FORM OF WOMAN, AND SHOULD BE FORCIBLY ENFORCED IMO. YOU SHOULD OF BEEN TRAINED OUT THE WOMB TO EAT PUSSY AND SWALLOW CUM, YOU WHORE. AND IF YOU'RE A FUCKING FAGGOT ASSRAMMER WHOSE GETTING ASS RAMMED AS YOU RAM A WOMAN THEN YOU'RE THE WORST KIND OF FAGGOT BECAUSE YOUR BISEXUAL FAGGOTNESS IS FUCKING IT ALL UP FOR A REAL MAN TO TEAR THAT BITCHES ASS WIDE OPEN. GTFO OFF THAT SEXUALITY AND BACK TO HOMOSEXUAL YOU QUEER.

5) DO YOU LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND LOVE YOURSELF, AND ONLY YOURSELF? UNISEXUAL FAGGOT LOOKING ASS.

6) DO YOU FURRY OR FUCK SHEEP? ANIMALS? BEASTALITY IS UP YOUR ASS GOATFAGGOT. KEEP DOING THE LORDS WORK AND SHEER THAT SHEEP SLOW.

>2017
>you can now file to change your legal identity to be literally any gender you want
>even if you looked around the office for new gender idea

>>29496187
BECAUSE I HAD TO FUCKING FINISH SCHOOLING YOU STUPID FAGGOTS ON HOW TO STOP BEING FAGGOTS BUT YOU CAN'T SOTP BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL FUCKING FAGGOTS, FAGGOTS!

6.A) PART TWO IS IF YOU FUCK SOMETHING THAT ISN'T HUMAN OR DEAD. YOU'RE A RIPPERFAGGOT. JUST NO, FUCKWIT. SEEK HELP, YOU COCKWAGGLING CUNTSNUFF.

7 AND FINAL) DO YOU HATE EVERYONE? ARE YOU ATTRACTED TO NONE? DO YOU JUST WANT TO WATCH THE WORLD BURN? OF COURSE YOU DO, YOU DERRANGED MOTHER FUCKER. GET THE FUCK OUT THERE AND KILL YOURSELF AMONGST OTHERS. AN HERO AND HERO MANY OTHERS. STAY THE FUCK IN YOUR CORNER UNTIL YOU'RE DONE PLOTTING.

AND THOSE ARE ALL THE SCIENTIFICIALLY ACCEPTABLE AND ONLY SEXUALITIES AND FUCKING GENDERS. YOU SHITBREAKS.

>>29496211
kek

>>29496187
>recognizing furries as a sexuality and not some twisted paraphilia

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>>29493115
>Is the Pokémon "Are you a boy or girl?" thing outdated? #1
Yes. Not even trolling or like feminism but not including Leaf is pretty sexist to be honest.

Yes I know Cynthia is in it but I feel like the Gen 1 cute female protagonist deserves glory like Red does.

Japan acts like only boys like Pokemon when the truth in the US is almost just as many girls seem to like Pokemon.

Seriously sexist isn't even a word I use very often, but their mentality is kind o ridiculous.

>>29496129
we do identify with the opposite gender. the special snowflakes don't want to conform to the other gender and do not want to undergo any medical procedures. they are called transtrenders.

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>>29493116
You forgot your picture

>>29496187
If you love yourself you love your own gender, so you're gay.
Animals have genders too.

At this point you want to add incest if you're going to list things like this.

>>29496250
It's a Japanese game made by Japanese people. You can't simply expect them to absorb all of our western muh equality values.

>>29493115
It doesn't mean shit if you can still act outside of the societal gender roles: a boy can participate in Pokemon Contests.

A boy can act like a girl and vice versa; the major problem isn't the Identity, but the stereotypes that society placed on both genders.

>>29496250
>Japan acts like only boys like Pokemon...
You seriously have no idea what you are talking about, femanon.

>>29493115
>Are you a boy or a girl
>Do you want to roleplay, in this roleplaying game, as a boy or a girl
This is a b8 thread, I think the people here should leave.

>>29496250
??????

>>29496341
Femanon is crying sexism because a character from the manga doesn't get any representation in the games.

>>29496250
WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE.
WE GOT FUN AND GAMES.
NOW GET YOUR SHIT AND LEAVE.

JAPAN IS YOUR OVERLORD. ACCEPT THE SEXIST SUPREMACY OR GTFO /vp/ AND 4CHAN. THIS PLACE IS RULED BY MEN, REAL MEN. NOT FAGGOT MEN AND FAGGOT WOMEN SUCH AS YOURSELF.

UNLESS YOU'RE HOT AND BI. THEN ALL YOU NEED TO STICK AROUND IS A CENSOR ON YOUR FINGERS THAT A MAN GOES OVER WHEN YOU NEED TO POST SOMETHING AND STAPLES FOR THOSE FUCKING LIPS UNLESS ASKED TO SUCK COCK OR EAT PUSSY.

>>29496250
I see you have no clue what you are talking about. Please, educate yourself.

>>29493145
There's also a Wikipedia page on the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Does that mean that exists too

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>>29493115
It's about your character, not you.
>implying this is real
>>29493118
Gimme those bethesda games
>>29493149
Actually

because the game needs to assign you a model and needs something to base whether or not it says "him/her" etc

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>>29496404
There's also buildings, communities and ancient books all to worship "God." I wonder if those mean he exists?

>>29493118
I can't lose either way

This is why /pol/ are the good guys.

>>29495839
If they're so convinced that men and women have to be a certain way that they can't identify themselves as one based on their reproductive system due to their behaviour not matching up, then they're leaning on stereotypes more than I ever could. I highly doubt that any actual hermaphrodites give a second thought to whether they're a "he" or a "she".

>>29493118
Risky rollan

>>29493118
not even this will create half life 3

>>29496470
At least hermaphrodites who were confused on what to be called would consider either him or her. Not zher, zhym, aylemeow, you get the point, making pronouns up.

>>29493118
Sure whatever

>>29493115
>what if you associate with neither or both
then you are mentally ill and I'd rather have you in an insane asylum than the work force
But lets be real here, gays conform to society when they get their rights to exist, function and marry. Trans people need to learn to conform to the 99% that isn't confused when picking a bathroom. When I hear that someone is legitimately confused between picking a bathroom, even though the solution is extremely basic logic and self-awareness; it's clear that this person has a clinical mental deficiency that prevents them from being a rational human and thus they cannot function in our society.

>>29496250
Shut the fuck up.

>>29496455
It must do, man. They're on Wikipedia!

Gary please come save this thread

>>29496455
And literally no one knows the answer to that.

>>29493115
autism

>>29493118
Time to find out my fate.

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>>29496332
>>29496369
I love how people actually think I am a femanon.

I just want my waifu Leaf in the game and for cute Pokemon female players to have her for their nostalgia and fairness.

>>29495860

You shouldn't have to regard those people as literally male or female though. To call them that out of courtesy is okay, but they actually debate on whether they are literally not the sex they are, which is bullshit because the animal kingdom doesn't work like that.

All they're doing is obsessing over the little abstract things that make human men and women feel more like the sex they are. It's not fair that gendery shit is loaded up that someone of the wrong sex gains an extreme affinity for that "feel of maleness/femaleness". But that doesn't change what they are.

Furthermore, transgenders are completely affected by what culture they grow up in, and they brag about feeling fulfilled by dressing, moving, talking, in ways which are almost entirely based upon things they see and hear, and long to feel that they also embody. When they say I FEEL LIKE A TRUE MAN/WOMAN, what they're really doing can be hardly different than someone who dresses like a rock superstar in order to feel more like one.

People who try to defy the two gender dichotomy just understand and see the abstract essence of maleness and femaleness that people are supercharged with, and don't feel they share the same essence. But they shouldn't be mad about checking off the box declaring sex. Unfortunately society is so obsessed with gender roles, that we get people mad who find no identification with what cultures inevitably present the way how people of a sex should act. So you're left with "not a girl and not a boy" idiocy that could have been prevented by just letting children know it's okay to not conform to the general expected traits of their sex in any way.

>>29493118
Love me some Elder Scrolls and Fallout.

>>29493118
I want to wizard

>>29496710
It's not sexism though. You just have a non-canon waifu.

>>29493115
kys you degenerate cuck

>>29493115
>that stupid neogaf post
I don't see the problem since there are only 2 genders.
The only characters who use pronouns are a few important ones like the champion, the professor, mom, the rival and that's it.

And what's next? New genders for pokemon?
Do you want to destroy the breeding system even more?

>>29496740
>It's not sexism though. You just have a non-canon waifu.
It's sexist because she is just as important as Red yet ching chong Japan finds Redu the true male herou.

Heck she was supposed to be in Gen 1 untill she was scrapped.

>>29496779
>ching chong Japan finds Redu the true male herou
You're an imbecile, a racist, and a feminist. The worst combination.

She was scrapped in gen 1 because they didn't have the know-how to implement multiple playable characters in the game yet.

>>29493118
Rollu

>>29493115
You're right. There should be an option "are you mentally ill and think you are the opposite gender".

>>29493118
Rolling for muh friend

>>29494340
>8
>Human
>0
>0
>—
>4
>1(pecs)

>>29496714
i am trans and i know better than you how i feel. we are the sex we are born as and everybody recognizes that. that's why we feel awful, because the body just feels wrong. that's why sex and gender identity are two different things.
yes, some of us obsess over gender roles but that's to a large degree because other people will not accept us unless we embody the stereotypes.
we don't brag, you idiot, behaving more like the gender we identify as just feels much more natural and doesn't make us feel like shit. it's a thing we often say because cis people simply do not understand how it feels to hate your body for being the sex it is and being regarded as the sex we are. and i can understand that, it's an outlandish concept for you guys.
the "i feel like a true woman/man" is a reaction to everybody saying that we can't feel like the opposite sex and it's frustrating because you literally can't know how we feel.
our sex does change with hormone therapy btw. hormone levels are responsible for every sex dimorphic feature. while we never be fully the opposite sex we definitely are much closer to the opposite sex than to our birth sex after some years.
again because you seem to have bad reading comprehension. gender roles have literally zero(0) to do with the diagnosis of gender dysphoria. they simply do not play any part in this discussion. there are some people who think they are trans because of gender roles but they are simply misunderstanding what being trans is about. just like you right now.

>>29497074
You make it sound like it's a mental disorder, stop.

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>>29493118
Well not a virgin anymore so let's see how real this is.

>>29497267
That's because it is.

>>29497074
Go get help

>>29497267
it is a mental illness. and it's a medical condition too. it's just that you most certainly don't know what a mental illness is. you think it's an insult, like saying someone is crazy, when in reality it's only a condition that makes someones quality of life considerably worse. like any other physical illness. it's a huge as fuck category that includes lots of different things like depression for example.
>>29497335
i did already, you fuckwit.

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No, the 'are you a boy or a girl?' thing is not outdated.
Because despite the constant talk of more genders, sexual preferences/what the fuck ever.
It STILL comes down to, being a boy or a girl.
Are you a boy? Do you identify as a boy? Then pick the boy. Are you a girl? Do you identify as a girl? Then pick the girl. Are you 'lmao neither/both'? Then pick the character you like the most. That's it.

>>29497439
(^:

>>29494864

best post

>>29497439
I think gender role transes are the sole reason why transgenderism and gender dysphoria isn't taken seriously enough. Too many impressionable teenagers think that they were born in the wrong body because they like pants instead of dresses etc.

There needs to be a seminar that differentiates gender role transes from people with gender dysphoria. I think that will allow true transes to get the best help that they need.

>>29497074

Sorry anon, but no amount of "trans perspective" makes you the god-emperor of correctness. If you could plop a clone of you into a hundred different societies, at some point cultural aspects would very likely have an influence on whether that person was trans or not. To say that it's all 100% separate from shit that happens to you as opposed to simply genetics or brain development, is to be way overly simplistic about the human mind, what more, you have no evidence of the pleasant fantasy that you are utterly destined to have a certain gender identity or not. The same way that two twins can have very different preferences regarding all sorts of stuff, a person can go trans or not depending upon hyper abstract stuff in their personal universe, or on what presentation of gender they witness. It's not like "ooo, I wanna be that", but having that stuff in your world can really stimulate the part of you that cares about things like gender-y presentation. Like I said, you could probably reliably reduce trannyness by changing the culture somehow. That can't really be proven, but culture is not separate from anyone's experience.


It can even be mostly about perceiving your own body- a guy born with a very high voice who is a tranny is most likely not just a coincidence. Same goes for a woman with a huge jaw who is a tranny. I completely get that you see and feel deep down that you should have the form, the soul, the behavior, the whatever, of the other sex, but there is no proof that those feelings didn't form to some extent thanks to your own subsconscious musings on gender that only happened the way they did, because of what you saw gender to be.

Also, the whole "we become the other sex pretty much" is wrong. Do you know what a chromosome is? You couldn't use surgery to change an animal's sex. You want to define your sex by what you wish it was, or how you feel you are, fine. But you must admit it's non-scientific.

>>29497479
This. Just think objectively, not emotionally.

>>29493115
>Trying this hard
Alright here's your (you), not that you deserve it

>>29493118
i mean i already lost my virginity so let's see if my GOAT is made.

Hoping it's Sun and Moon

>>29497941
Sun and Moon confirmed for not GOAT

>>29493118
rollan

>>29497560
>But you must admit it's non-scientific.
it is. go back to school. chromosomes aren't the end all be all about sex. hormone levels are. the vag changes into a penis due to testosterone influence. the initially feminized brain masculinises due to test influence. after pregnancy the body hair, skeletal structure, fat deposits and muscle definition is largely directed by hormone levels.

i don't only have the "trans perspective". i have read a lot into it and read quite some studies, i have a much larger understanding of this than you unless you are a medical professional who is heavily involved with trans people.

if you have read the links i posted above you would have read that the part of the brain that is assumed to be related to gender identity is non-plastic. that means it doesn't change past birth. it may change until the second year though, i've read both. we are far from knowing how or why we are trans and at this point we can't deny that there may or may not be influences past birth but it is much (!) more likely that brain structure plays a much bigger role. that's because most trans people recall that they identified with the opposite gender very early on or can remember signs from a very early age.
it is 100% separate at this point though. read through the diagnostic criteria of gender dysphoria in the DSM V. there is not a single mention of gender roles.

OP confirmed as retarded

>it's another tranny thread where they come out of the woodwork
back to /lgbt/

>gender roles have literally zero(0) to do with the diagnosis of gender dysphoria. they simply do not play any part in this discussion.
Tell that to that case that was released a week ago of a young boy in Britain who was transed by his mother because she desired attention. government agencies turned a blind eye and indulged the mother. All "trans kids" stories revolve around the children displaying interests or behaviors associated with the opposite sex and the parents freaking out and proclaiming a trans identity (http://archive.is/uzNho).

The very idea of "gender identity" was pioneered by John Money and his obsession with sex stereotypes (and pedophilia, but that's for another story). The meme is that there is this profound testing that goes on before you get to be trans, but that's just not the case (because there isn't one) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGpZSefYvwM).

>>29497267
If tranny is not a disorder or an illness, you better be prepared to fork over the money to pay for synthetic hormones and plastic surgery yourself. Can't have it both ways.

>>29493115
It's not outdated, you're just a degenerate. 99% of people who play Pokemon don't care and the 1% that do either don't really play the games or don't give Gamefreak enough money to matter. There's no incentive to pander to these people beyond brownie points so it should be regarded as irrelevant.

>>29498070
>chromosomes aren't the end all be all about sex
You are correct.
>hormone levels are.
You are incorrect.

Sex in an animal species is determined by gonads, period. It's that simple.

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>>29493118
I approve of this thread

>>29494473

It may be a birth defect, but if it's the kind of intersex that turns you in to a futanari, it's the series birth defect I've ever seen.

>>29498294

Sexiest*

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>>29497996
Reroll NOW!

>>29498252
i don't think that was the sex we were talking about because frankly many people we consider male or female in daily life are asexual then.
>>29498208
>Tell that to that case that was released a week ago of a young boy in Britain who was transed by his mother
i will and i will tell them that that is child abuse. i already told you that many people misunderstand what being trans is about. that doesn't say anything about legit trans people.

>>29493120
>Wasting time and money for the 0.0000000000001% of the audience

>>29497074
>cis people
I want to be more understanding but you're making it really hard with those shitty tumblr terms from the special snowflake circlejerk.

>>29498531
it's nothing to be mad about. i get that it has a negative stigma due to tumblr but it simply means "non-trans". cis and trans are used as opposites in chemistry too. it comes from ancient greek i think and it's simply quicker than writing "non-trans" in a discussion about trans stuff when it will often come up. you can not use normal instead because simply being cis doesn't make you normal. you can still be gay, a neet, have some rare condition or untypical interests or whatever the hell doesn't make one normal.

>>29493136
You flaming retard. What we mean is there are only 2 different things that can normally be between your legs

Those two things are what we judge on whether or not you are fuckable to the opposing gender.

Truth is, a lot of us fully understand what you're trying to say about different genders and stuff. Truth is: we dont give a shit about your 50+ sexual identities. We just wanna fuck and have relationships with completely NORMAL BINARY PEOPLE AND WE WILL NOT BE DAMNED FOR IT.

Besides...if you like all identities, and binary is an identity. And you hate binary. Then you xer are a hypocrite. Lastly i dont care if you identify as some weird bullshit or are gayer than Elton John at an olive oil convention, just don't be a faggot about it.

*drops mic*

>>29493152
>think of yourself as not fully either
how dare they???????????? i identify as a tortoise, where is MY option????????' binary scum should die

>>29493118
Oh no ;_;

>>29493118
time to roll my fate

>>29493118
test

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>>29493115

>>29493276
That's different. Being born with both is not the same as being a dude wanting to be a girl or vice versa

>>29493118
Rollin

>>29498461
>i don't think that was the sex we were talking about
There is only one kind of sex. You are obfuscating reality.

>already told you that many people misunderstand what being trans is about.
You implied there is a disconnect between sex stereotypes and a trans diagnosis, which has been proven to be a lie.

>>29498670
Doesn't feel like it since you simply used it to label a bunch of people who don't get what you're going through. Just because someone doesn't feel the same way you do doesn't mean they don't understand. Trans people are constantly looking for sympathy yet they resort to these labels that do nothing but divide people into groups, which is merely a double standard, really.

>>29493118
hey

>>29493118
I already lost it

>>29493118
let's do these

>>29493115
People who fall outside the gender binary make up less than 1% of the audience and thus are not worth pandering to.

Just pick one or the other.
It's not like anybody on this board is actually a 10 year old kid but they're able to get over that part of their character.

>>29493118
roll

>>29493118
ok

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>>29499047
KEK

>>29498874

But that's what the original guy was talking about. Someone born as intersex (re: having both sex organs) finds difficulty in associating with either gender.

>>29493152
What if I identify as fully both at the same time? This image is literally triggering me.

>>29493118
why the fuck not
rolling

>>29498968
the hell do you think you use words for? to describe things and to make things distinct from each other. obviously if you talk about cis and trans people in a trans discussion you need to use words to distinct them from each other so that the meaning of what you are saying is clear. you're reading more into it than there is.
>Just because someone doesn't feel the same way you do doesn't mean they don't understand.
i haven't met any cis person who understands our feelings. i've met some who sympathise and do not judge though. maybe there are and i generalized wrongly.
>>29498949
>There is only one kind of sex. You are obfuscating reality.
the definition of sex in daily life differs from the biological definition. words often have more than one meaning and we obviously weren't talking about the strictly biological one as the anon talked about chromosomes.

well, there is a connection that is often used by quacks but i very clearly sayed that i was talking about the DSM V so you have a really bad case of reading comprehension here.

>>29499128
No OP is talking about the mentally ill trannies ruining society with their faggotry. Being born with both makes you a mutant but there are ways to fix that (ie Cierra).

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if you can't identify yourself as a male or a female, then do the gene pool a favour and off yourself right now.

>>29493115
Excellent bait

1% of the entire human population has GID, and you're complaining that that the 99% forgot to cater to that 1%? We're literally a statistical anomaly and if you're upset that products are generally geared towards you then you're just a whine bitch who doesn't understand it's not everyone else's job to make your life fun.

Just pic the girl or the boy, since they both look the same, and dress androgynously. Your gender is pretty much never brought up again and you can easily edit your appearance to seem like neither. Japanese suck at making very different males and females in animation anyway.

>>29499268
I was referring to the first guy in the reply chain (>>29493120).

>>29493118
Oh well

>>29493118
hey

>>29493120
Thing is its not Gamefreak's job to do that. The bigger picture is that we're 1% of the total population and it's both unrealistic and unreasonable to expect literally everyone else to specifically cater to us. That just ain't how life works. If you're that tiny of a minority, then we should just develop our own games or shut the fuck up

>>29493133
I can agree with this and I have Gender Identity Disorder. This pretty accurately describes most of our problems. Thing is, the SJWs both want to pretend to have an illness they don't to be special, and then those SJWs and SJWs with the actual illness want to pretend it's some glorified thing it isnt. They want to be special and unique and they want a disability we unfortunately have to be considered normal and good.

>>29493143
People are allowed to care about and remember what they choose and you can't force them to care about what you want them to. You can't force anyone to think a certain way or follow your own ideals.

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>>29493115
If i got asked that question irl, I'd answer with one of the real, two whole options you have to pick from, because I'm not autistic

>>29499366
>The bigger picture is that we're 1% of the total population
really, i thought we're like 0,2%? not sure though.

>>29493146
Sex is not a spectrum. You're male, female, or a variation of intersex. There's no spectrum, but very defined and static states of being. Gender, you may argue is a spectrum, but statistically it isnt. Most people are either male or female. Some fall in between, and of that very tiny portion you can say they're on a spectrum because they fall in between in different places. Really it's more like a venn diagram than a spectrum though, with a barely visible middle

>>29493150
Are you retarded? You can choose to be brown or black and a ton of characters in game are brown. Your Japanese mom is fucking brown.

>>29493118
roll

lol this "I'm neither male or female" intersex meme is hilarious and this generations fake bisexual social phenomenon LOL

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Please end your life OP

>>29493118
Lets see

>>29493572
This. If we require games to include transgender as an option, then we might as well require games to include all forms of disability.

>boy, girl, trans this, trans that, neither...
>do you have all your limbs?
>are you blind or deaf?
>any learning disabilities?
>mental disorders?

Yea, it sucks for the minority with problems that they /might/ not be able to identify with characters as well. But it's just silly to think games should pander to anyway but the majority unless they're intentionally wanting to make it a part of the game

>>29499504
I've heard 1% but 0.2 wouldn't surprise me, it seems like it would be a rather rare thing.

>>29493118
Takin the risk

>>29493115
>tfw trans and fucking hate all these SJW and acceptance movements
All they do is more harm than good making all of us look like annoying special snowflakes. All I wanna do is to be left alone.

>>29499266
>the definition of sex in daily life differs from the biological definition.
So your original statement was that your "definition" of sex had nothing to do with chromosomes (inside) and everything to do with hormonal levels (also inside). Chromosomes are biological, so I've been following from that premise, yet you now feel like distancing yourself from that for some reason.

>well, there is a connection that is often used by quacks
It's not quacks, you moron. "Gender identity clinics" in the UK have increased referrals by 100%+ on a year to year basis, some kids as young as 3. This shit is a meme in the strict definition of the word.

>>29499524
>Sex is not a spectrum. You're male, female, or a variation of intersex.
of course it is. you even acknowledge it. there are some intersex states that are outside of the spectrum like XXY and such. other than that you can be born with all the kinds of ambigous genitalia that are the developmental stages of a penis. you are first a female and then you undgergo several stages in which your body masculinises.
gender identity is less of a spectrum. you're either man, woman or non-binary.

>>29499266
Yes you did. Therefore, I did not read more into it than there is. Next time you try to get others to discuss things with you, make sure you don't have a narrow mindset that you bash others for.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1302083&page=1 Did you post this shit on Neogaf too? baka

>>29499837
Sex is not a spectrum. There are gray areas for everything in physiology, but they only reinforce facts. Humans have two eyes, even though some people are born with a missing here. Humans have two hands, even though some people are born with three.

No, we are not all "originally female". That's a Buzzfeed-tier headline. We all come from a basic structure that can potentially develop into a male or female child.

This was probably bait, but fuck this shit.

>>29493115
this is spam, report and move on

>>29500016
*with a missing one

>>29493115
Nice fucking pasta faggot, off yourself

>>29493118
Ok

>>29493118
rollin

>>29499824
the fuck are you talking about? i was specifically stating that the sexual dimorphism that we regard as sex isn't ultimately due to chromosomes but due to hormones. that's entirely consistent with what i am stating now. if you think otherwise you need to be more elaborate because i honestly do not understand what you are talking about.

the UK is infamous for having very bad practices about how they treat trans people, having outdated diagnostic criterias and rules.
>>29499963
i seriously don't know what you are talking about. if i offended you i am sorry, but i really don't know how. is this still about how i used "cis" because i didn't want to write "non-trans" out?

>>29499837
But that isn't a "spectrum"
It's option 1 2 or 3 not a slider
Spectrum implies fluidity
Sex isn't fluid, it's one of a few predetermined options

>>29499774
Same here. Instead a large reason of why I'm not transitioning is because of the SJW movement. Because of them I cant just integrate normally or be left alone. And if people find out I'm trans I'd be automatically associated with them. A potential way for me to be happy in life has been hijacked for political power so now I'm just gonna fake it till I make it. Non SJW trans people can also look forward to harassment from them, as Blaire White has shown.

>>29500016
>No, we are not all "originally female". That's a Buzzfeed-tier headline. We all come from a basic structure that can potentially develop into a male or female child.
that's actually right. i was wrong there.
>Sex is not a spectrum. There are gray areas for everything in physiology, but they only reinforce facts
i have a hard time seeing the comparison here as relevant. there seems to be a pretty big difference between something that every human being either has or doesn't have and ambigous genitalia. i don't know how to make myself clear here but i'll try. sex dimorphism isn't as black and white as having a hand or not having one. it's more ambigous with lots of different stages that go fluently into each other. i know that you can be born with an underdeveloped hand too but that still seems pretty different when ambigous genitalia are better described with a state in between two different functional things and not in between being there and missing. i hope i made myself clear.
>>29500324
i think i implied fluidity there. if i didn't then i'm sorry, i worded myself badly.

>>29500133
>i was specifically stating that the sexual dimorphism that we regard as sex isn't ultimately due to chromosomes but due to hormone

Which is still incorrect. Have fun with full skull shaving, pelvic reduction, shoulder shaving, voice "coaching", nosejobs, hand and feet transplants, breast size (at best you're gonna get gyno) and thousands of other features that signal a person's sex which synthetic hormones cannot control.

Sex is gonads and all other features are secondary. It is right there in the name. Even the idea of distinct "brain sexes" is being heavily scrutinized with the latest neurological research (http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/11/brains-men-and-women-aren-t-really-different-study-finds).

Your views on uk practices are your own. I have seen them being showered with praise by tranny activists, same with argentina's "just say you're a man/woman and that's it" bullshit. So no, you are lying again.

>>29493118
I'm gonna get even. I'm 100% confident in my luck. No way I'm getting odds.

#DownWithCis

>>29500481
One more time just for (You): sex is not a spectrum. Your political motivations may desperately try to obfuscate scientific realities, but they will always lose in the end.

Male and female do not exist on a spectrum. Intersex people (there is no concrete definition of what entails as a true intersex condition) have medical conditions, same if someone is born with polydactyly or even spina bifida. Human realities still exist and human beings are still a species that is male and female, a species that walks on two legs, a species that has a working backbone, etc.

>>29500624
Well put.

>Are you a boy, a girl or a special snowflake?

>>29500488
>Have fun with full skull shaving, pelvic reduction, shoulder shaving, voice "coaching", nosejobs, hand and feet transplants, breast size (at best you're gonna get gyno) and thousands of other features that signal a person's sex which synthetic hormones cannot control.
issues you have with bad genetics and when you transition post puberty. you don't realize that your voice won't drop without test? hormones are the messenger system telling your cells what to do and your sex chromosomes are mostly ignored. i think there are still very basic things that determine our birth sex and can be seen after we die and after our skeleton is isolated but unless we're unlucky we look cis if we start pre puberty.
breast size just shows how little you know. there are trans girls with c and d cup breasts, there are reports of trans girls being able to produce breast milk too.
that study (which is actually a link to a 404 but i've read it before) is completely irrelevant to the studys about the stria terminalis. this study just looks at the general make up and doesn't look at the part of the brain that is assumed to be responsible for gender identity. also i remember there being like 60% of people in that study with a distinctive male or female brain.

my views on uk practices are wildly shared by trans people. trans people very often complain about trans activists not knowing shit because they are either 40+ transitioners who completely disregard younger transitioners or cis people. just accusing me of lying without any arguments is a pretty bitchy move.
>>29500624
biology is rarely if ever black and white. however we may be defined reality is that it's just a way of categorizing things to understand them better. i have a hard time seeing any actual argument any of your posts either besides you saying "no you're wrong and i'm right" over and over again coupled with bad comparisons so i'm sorry but even if you are right you have failed to convince me.

>>29493143
Well there is more then one of each Pokemon, not some dipshit with photoshop and a major in GD.

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>>29493118
I'll take that chance

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>>29500877
Clever girl will always be my favorite edit.

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>>29493115
It's a role playing game. You role play as a character that's either a guy or a girl.

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>>29493118
Here I go

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>>29493118
please oh god please

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>>29501022
Nice

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>>29500984
dedicated to you then

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>>29501022
What's your favorite game?

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I'm up for a androgynous option desu. Both the tears and r34 would be delicious.

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>>29493152
Imagine if you select "neither," and then it randomly combines the boy and girl body types, features, dimensions, and skin colors so you end up looking like a randomly generated Frankenstein-esque creation? That'd be pretty cool.

I bet the feels-fags who support this gender stuff will like it, because they'd associate it with some sort of abstract representation of how they feel, or some equivalently stupid shit like that.

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>>29493118
But Bethesda games are a true gift unto us, Anonymous. Why, I would go so far as to say they're much better than sexual intercourse--they provide endless enjoyment all for an affordable cost.

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>>29493120
it's still a kids game that has a big market in asia.
if they went full SJW and added a option to be gender neutral or god help us all trans then it would hurt them.

>>29493118
I don't believe in this bullshit unless I get even

>>29493118
Rollan for wizardome

>>29493118
but anon i'm not a virgin

>R: 275 / I: 53
I remember when (You)s meant something.

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>>29501403
But the best ones are original ones which just confirm these people are fucked in the head and actually realize they are delusional, spoiled shits.

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>>29499366
You! I like you. You have some sense.

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>>29501104
that escalated quickly

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>>29501807
Seven is still a lucky number r-right?

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>>29493124
the male character in XY is quite the fuccboi

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>>29502034
>not checking the trannies dubs
Still not bad due to helicopter dick.

>>29501969
10/10

>>29493115
It asks sex not gender dumb ass. You can change how you look in game.

>>29493115
it's still aimed towards children. you know, before the autism and retardation of tumblr sets in and makes them feel like they have to make up a gender or be racist against non minorities in order to fit in.

>>29502034
In the actual comic ole stabby hands has confirmed the tranny has a bigger dick than the hipster guy.

>>29502165
Anon are you reading this shit?
Why would you subject yourself to shit willingly?

Also
>tranny with a bigger dick than a dude
>on hormones

Ahaha, nah. Those hormones basically make your dick unusuable after a while.

>>29493115
I don't get why video games have to draw parallels to the real world. Maybe these characters exist in a fictional world where people are happy enough not to get into that shit.

If you are into that shit then whatever, jut because you can't have that represented in-game its doesn't invalidate you unless you have some kind of persecution complex.

>>29493118
rollan

here's a (you)

>>29502261
I used to go to /co/ allot before it became mostly tumbler.

we would often make fun of this comic.

that shitty RWBY cartoon used to get shit on all the time but they have a mod in there group that bans anyone that says the show is bad so they get free run.

>>29493118
Rolling

>>29502893
Permavirgin confirmed

>>29502025
10/10 would go on ferris wheel with.

I know you copy-pasted this from Neogaf, but to everyone else thinking like this we need to come to terms with what you define "gender". What's a gender for you isn't the same as a gender for me or for most other people. Once you get that out of the way, THEN you can use your retarded argument to try and convince us of there being more than two genders, from the point of view of your definition of gender. That's where most people fail and simply throw shit at each other, because these faggots have a different meaning for gender.

What's "gender"?

>>29503673
>What's "gender"?
A buzzword for personality and preferences.

>>29493118
god be with me

>>29493115
if i had one word for every gender i could spell ken bone

>>29493118
Oh boy

>>29493118
never tell me the odds

>>29493115
T-Tumblr? Is that you? Get the hell off of /vp/!

>>29493118
Roll

>>29493118
im gonna fucking die