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>This Pokémon is able to move about while completely masking its presence from others. Once an opponent has lost sight of it, Decidueye seizes the chance to attack it unawares. In a tenth of a second, Decidueye plucks an arrow quill from within its wing and sends its hurtling toward its target. Its speed is astonishing, but not more so than its precise aim, which enables the arrow quill to pierce a target through and through from half a mile or more away! Decidueye usually acts very cool, but it can become terribly flustered in unexpected situations like a surprise attack.

>A skilled Decidueye can boast acrobatic curved shots. It seems some are also able to shoot arrows that reach up through the sky, only to come drilling down from above, piercing multiple targets one after another.

>Spirit Shackle is a Ghost-type physical move that only Decidueye can learn. An opponent hit with this move will become unable to flee from battle or switch out for an ally.

http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/decidueye/

>No switching
If that's permanent, this thing is broken. It's already good as just a 1 turn lock.
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this thing was bound to be insanely broken from the moment it leaked

it's obviously this gen's grenigger
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>竜が我が敵を喰らう
>竜が我が敵を喰らう
>竜が我が敵を喰らう
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>>29458904
What?!
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why ghost
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>grassfags get the shit end of the stick for generations
>Decidueye appears with his unique typing, outstanding signature move and best design
>A grass type has the potential to be OU without Spore nonsense
Is it finally the grass type's time to shine? I don't know if I'm ready for this.
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>>29459536
Unique typing?
Pic related says hi.
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Why does everybody think Grass/Ghost is good? Look at fucking Gourgeist and Trevenant...
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>>29459536
The owl is gonna get banned to Ubers and stay there if it's fast and Spirit Shackle lasts longer than a turn/while the owl is out. This is Protean-tier, maybe beyond.
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>>29459736
Ah, I meant unexpected, I was actually about to look Trevenent up so I can see his type resistances.
Every Grass/Ghost is outstanding. Best type combo.
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>>29459736

It's semantics, yes, but technically Pumpkaboo/Gourgeist/Phantump/Trevenant are all Ghost/Grass, so Decidueye is the first and only Grass/Ghost-type.
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>>29459822
Have you heard of Thousand waves or other trapping moves?
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>>29458510
>Its speed is astonishing
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Just use a normal type if it comes out :^)
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>>29459916
Thousand Waves isn't legal yet, and the number of usable Flying/Levitate mons vastly outnumbers the number of usable Normal mons, who are you trying to kid?
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>>29458510
>It seems some are also able to shoot arrows that reach up through the sky, only to come drilling down from above, piercing multiple targets one after another.
THOUSAND ARROWS CONFIRMED
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>Physical ghost move
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>>29459916
Ground does not hit mons with Levitate or Flying types. This shit hits evryone that's not part Normal.
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>>29460110
Because mean look is everywhere in the meta
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>>29458510

>Implying Owls are Birds

Are you FUCKING with me Gamefrea?
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>>29459932
>Escavalier
Don't get your hopes up based on text info anon
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Well it OHKO'd alolan Raichu on the japanese trailer so even if it doesn't carry it for the effect it's going to see use for its power.

This thing will be great for stopping double switches though.
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>>29458510
Spirit Shackle is not broken. It lacks the key element that makes Shadow Tag broken, which is the fact that it is instantaneous and doesn't allow the opponent a proper switch-in.
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>Spirit shackle something that can't kill it
>SD to +6
>It's already fast as fuck
>Start sweeping

Pooplio and shitten fans btfo, rowlet boiz have the best starter.
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>>29458510
>, Decidueye plucks an arrow quill from within its wing and sends its hurtling toward its target. Its speed is astonishing
So is this decidueyes actual speed or the speed of its attacks. Sounds like the latter to me, which could also mean a gale wings equivalent.
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>Wastes one turn trapping Pokemon when Shadow Tag already exists.

I don't think Decidueye have much defense, so it might get wrecked while trapping.
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>>29460346
You're right, they are something much more sinister
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>>29461100
It's not wasting a turn mate. It's a signature physical STAB move, you are using it for dealing damage, the effect is just extra.
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>>29460295
This thing does damage while trapping.
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I was already planning on naming it after this guy, how could I not after finding out about its spirit arrows?
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>>29461100
>switch Decidueye in to check the opponent's
>opponent switches to a Decidueye check
>use Spirit Shackle as they switch in and get trapped unless they're a Normal or Ghost, the latter of which takes a SE hit from it anyway
>switch Decidueye out and bring in the second Pokemon's check/counter
Decidueye is going to be great as a pseduo-pivot
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>>29460746
>implying they will keep in a pokemon that can't kill it
>implying it gets SD
>implying it's fast as fuck
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>>29461863
>website literally says it has astonishing speed
>"hurr it wont be fast"
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>>29461528
rip bleach you deserved a better ending
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>>29461863
Stop being a shitter. You know this move is great.

Opening hazard setters are going to get ass fucked by this mon.
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watch it get reverse scrappy as its hidden ability
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>>29461926
>They fly around at high speed, striking with their pointed spears. Even when in trouble, they face opponents bravely
>Escavalier dex entry
>base 20 speed
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>>29459784
Shit stats bruh
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>>29461985
it IS great, but situational.
it will take a turn to actually trap a pokemon, and people won't let you trap a pokemon that can't kill it, like heatran and magma storm
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>signature move is ghost type
>strong against both Solgaleo and Lunalaa

Fucking perfect
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>>29462245
>have it as your opener
>start with shackle
>if your opponent tries to attack or use an opener, you are free to kill them
>if they try to counter they get locked into their counter without being able to attack that turn, and you can switch out to an actual counter your opponent can't do shit against
He's better than you think. Best opener since entry hazards.
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>>29458510
Something like 100+ spe/100+ att
with Shackles, U-turn, brave bird and leaf blade would be awesome and semi-realistic.
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People can no longer deny that Rowlet is GF's favourite this time around.
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>>29463370
Don't forget about his "powerfull kicks", which could mean that Dark and Normal types, which resist/is immune shackle, could be High-Jump-Kicked to hell.
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>>29464243
"powerful kicks" is just NoA nonsense for talon strikes.
Talonflame was also describe as being a powerful kicker.
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>>29458510
>A skilled Decidueye can boast acrobatic curved shots

CURVE THE ARROW
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>>29462720
This. Holy fucking shit just this attack alone is brutal as hell.
>People HAVE to run normal types now to check it otherwise risk having a pokemon stuck unable to switch turn 1.
>If it gets a fighting attack, with high Physical stats, this thing could OHKO-2HKO most Normal types at that, and even then unless they run Flamethrower or something, will resist/null most other options tossed it's way.
It's signature attack ALONE fucks up the current meta so hard. People already where going to drop M-Kanga after it's nerf, but they might need to keep it just to have something to stop this bullshit.
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>>29458510
>>Spirit Shackle is a Ghost-type physical move that only Decidueye can learn. An opponent hit with this move will become unable to flee from battle or switch out for an ally.

I like Decidueye, but goddam I'm a huge duskull line fag and this is something that would help it out immensely.
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>>29465058
Eviolite was a mistake

Also
>Dusknoir would have been a perfect user of non-ghost curse effects
>is a ghost type
>doesn't get bulk up to compensate
>meanwhile a brave bird can get swole

I really fucking hope DP remakes gives it a buff
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>>29459536
Serperior doesn't need sleep shit to be gud.
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>>29458510
Y'all are dumb as fuck. It's a mean look effect so it only lasts as long as Decidueye is in battle. It's nice because you know they won't switch on the turn you switch a counter in, but they can still switch after that. It has usability on hazard teams where it'll force a bunch of switches, plus it spinblocks.
Hopefully it gets u-turn
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>>29464515
M-Kanga isn't allowed in VGCs when SM drops
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>>29465220

Serperior is the best in both battle and style. Robinhoot can't compete.
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>>29465409
Being able to force an opponent to stay in while also doing damage is actually crazy though. Especially if this thing gets U-Turn.
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>>29458510
>able to shoot arrows that reach up through the sky, only to come drilling down from above,

he's a fucking trickshotter skyrim style
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>>29466007
>>29458510
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypXMAIL0p5w

>Decidueye deals with a Roothootfag
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It's not broken because we can still switch as soon as we see a Decidueye on the field, allowing a proper switch-in.
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>>29461783
>switch
>switch
>switch
>switch
>switch
This game is so fucking fun
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>>29466300
On the first turn though, when people usually set up hazards or whatever, if Decidueye is sent out it pressures them to either abandon setting up right away or deal with getting stuck in.
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>>29458510
Do we know the base power for this move yet? Watch it be something like 40.
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>>29466388
>decide not to switch
>I believe in you pikachu!
>Primal groundon used precipice blades
>Pikachu fainted
it doesn't matter that I lost after ignoring everything the game has told me about type advantages, at least I still had fun
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>>29458510
>If that's permanent, this thing is broken.
How dumb is the average /vp/fag is? Do you think Mean Look is permanent too?
>>29466300
>opponent sends out birb
>you switch out to something in order to prevent getting trapped
>they trap what you switched out to
>you're stuck for the turn where they can switch out to another thing to counter your counter
>only after they've sent something else you may be able to switch out
Shit's going to be great. Hopefully the move has a decent enough BP as well.
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>>29458510
>Decidueye plucks an arrow quill from within its wing and sends its hurtling toward its target. Its speed is astonishing
Is this the owls actual speed or is it attack seed?
If its the latter what if it means a gale wings equivalent ability?
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>>29466558
Lets say 15pp 60 power.

Is it still good?
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>>29466604
Imagine if they give it Technician.
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>>29466604
Not if you want to deal any damage, but still good enough to slap something.
Unless its HA is Technician. Oh god I'm cumming
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>>29458510
So does it get Laser Sight as well? Do the starters have two signature moves each?
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>>29466651
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>>29458510
WHY DO YOU PEOPLE THINK THAT THIS ATTACK IS GOOD

ITS LITERALLY MEAN LOOK

>>29460746
>switch your owl in
>LOL I BET ULL JUST SIT THERE AND LET ME SHACKLE YOU
>he switches out before the shackle comes, switches into something that hard counters him, given that he is grass type he will have no coverage
>you have to switch out, breaking your trap

It will be an okay move if the owl gets baton pass. Otherwise it's practically worthless, less useful than just using a higher BP move to get chip damage.
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>>29466734
>STAB damaging Mean Look
>bad
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>>29466734

This is bad how? combine that shit with quick attack.
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>>29460590

>switching in some who is GOING to get trapped

unless you're swapping in a normal it is still going to be annoying in VGC
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>>29466734
It's Mean Look with damage, that's the difference. Also
>you have to switch out, breaking your trap
They still won't be able to double switch, possibly giving you a free turn to switch something that can set up in.
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>>29460076
>most ghost or psychic types have worse defense than special defense
>physical ghost being bad

holy shit anon way to be retarded
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Damage mean look is not good
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It'll be 60 power and stupid on a frail offensive Pokemon looking to boost and get OHKOs. What on earth makes you think this is as good as Protean or Speed Boost uber starters?
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oh man, slowbro, rotom-w, keldeo, all fucked
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>>29458510
I'm feeling some nothing personnel vibes from this owl
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>>29467164

Physical ghost isn't terrible, but most of the best, widely available Ghost moves are special.

Plus, can you name one good physically based Ghost-type that isn't a legendary?
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>>29469192
Aeigislash
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>>29464282
But the three of them are powerful kickers
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>>29469192
Banette
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>>29469729
>Banette
>Good
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>>29459004
>not knowing Hanzomeme by now
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>>29461528
Is the shiny white? please be white.
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>>29464515
This thing is most likely bound to get HJK/JK so there's that definetly. Add some Flying coverage from Dartrix (who will probably learn BB either via breeding or Level up) and some more moves like Thunder Punch or Knock Off and even Rock Slide and recovery in Roost/Synthesis and this thing is simply terrifying. It doesn't even need to be that speedy, 110 is enough with 110 Atk.
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>>29469994
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>>29458510
I'll name my Dcidueye 'Cheecky Cunt'
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>>29458510
>grass type
Eat shit
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>>29459825
Grass/Rock is better.

Takes two shit types and turns them into something good. Surprised it's never been used since Cradily.
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>>29469192
Decidueye.
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>>29461962
How did it end?
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>>29470939
Hi.
Also:
>staying in on a Talonflame with a Grass type.
You eat shit for not knowing this game.
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>>29458510
If spirit shackle works like pursuit and actually prevents switching it's gonna be pretty fearsome. A damage Mean look on something with so many weaknesses (and starter BST) only looks like an infinitely worse version of Mega Gengar.
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>>29462347
Hoot Yi
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