why are people here so determined to declare Sun and Moon shit

>>29408227
Because there's evidence to assume that

>>29408227
It's tradition, silly.

>>29408254
we literally know nothing aside from the regional dex

>>29408227

because people can't be happy unless directly pleased.

If I go in with low expectations, and say the game is shit, I'll be surprised if it isn't. If I go in saying the game is awesome, and it's shit, I'll be disappointed.

/v/ and by extension /vp/ is a realist this way and manage their expectations/hype to prevent being emotionally hurt by greedy publishers.

>>29408227
New Pokemon games are consistently shit on every gen on this board. S/M are not an exception.

>>29408277
>literally
that's all the evidence I need to assume you're an imbecile

>>29408364
did people shit on BW?

>>29408384
literally my mom's ice cream cone.

I'm a little worried, and I will point out the obvious flaws, however I do not think it is shit yet.
What I do think however is that there is some glaring similarities with X/Y (The worst two games) which is unsettling.

>>29408277
You mean the main selling point?

>>29408384
They did before people actually played the game. That being said, I doubt S/M will have something like the World Tournament.

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>>29408227
Gee. I don't know...
>low amount of new Pokémon
>quality of new Pokémon is terrible overall, almost nothing but waifushit, furshit, and single-stage shitmons (for fucks sake no fossilmons?)
>Alolan forms are just Genwun OCs
>Z-moves are just shittier type gems
>no HMs
>gyms replaced with inferior, boring fetch quests
>pathetic difficulty

>>29408384
Oh, you sweet summer child

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>>29408414
>no HMs

>>29408411
I'm talking about OG BW, not bw2

>>29408414
>actually complaining about no HMs

>>29408381
>imbecile
that's all the evidence I need to assume you're an edgy reddit neckbeard

>>29408414
You're legitimately autistic if you're complaining that HMs are gone.

>>29408414
I mean I'm not looking forward to SM, but (most) Alola forms are cool and why are you complaining about HM removal

Just like how /vp/'s father hates Videogames and himself, /vp/ hates Pokemon and himself.

>>29408227
It's a vocal 10%

>>29408361
>If I go in with low expectations, and say the game is shit, I'll be surprised if it isn't. If I go in saying the game is awesome, and it's shit, I'll be disappointed.
Anon, that's not always the best way to think. It's a slippery slope.

If you make yourself too cynical and spiteful, then you can potentially cloud your judgement enough that you would be EXPECTING it to be shit. You won't want to enjoy it because you'll simply be looking for the negative aspects.

The best way to go into something is with an attitude hoping for the best, but still keeping down to earth and understanding that there could still likely be some issues.

Strike a middle ground instead of the extreme.

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>>29408227
It's like how /pg/ reacted to Persona 5. Everywhere else people were praising it but no matter what some people called it shit.

I'd rather be anti-hype than buy into the hype and be inevitably disappointed.

>>29408463
I had no idea you could fit so many buzzwords into one reply

>>29408555
I heard there were quite a few people not too happy with P5 over at neogaf, too.
S-So, is it worse than p4?

>>29408656
>I heard there were quite a few people not too happy with P5 over at neogaf, too.
Neofag was just butthurt over some "offensive" tranny scene.

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>>29408414
>Pathetic Difficulty
We don't know that yet
>Low amount of new Pokémon
Probably but fingers crossed
>Quality of new Pokes is terrible overall almost nothing but waifushit, furshit, and single stage shitmons (Jesus, no Fossil mons?)
This whole statement is bullshit. We have no idea what the fossilmons are because they haven't been revealed yet. Also, I feel like everyone's definition of fur/waifushit might differ. I mean, some people waifu the fuck out of Jiggs, and she isn't what I'd call waifu or furry bait. And what the fuck is wrong with either? If you honestly can't look at something like Poppmaid without thinking "oh my god I/Other people wanna fuck it" that's your problem. No one's forcing you to look at porn of it, just ignore it.
>Alolan forms are Genwun OCs
I feel like if they stemmed out into Johto or Unova you'd just call them Regular OCs. I don't even know what you're trying to say, some fakemon are cool as fuck, bro, and the Alola forms are no exception
Except that fucking Persian I mean what the fuck they dropped the ball
>Z-moves are just shittier type gems
They're fine, they look nice and they do cool things. You also don't need to use them if that's how you feel about them. It'll probably be like Megas in X and Y
>No HMs
Are you seriously angry that you no longer have to catch Lackey Pokémon or teach one of your favorites a move they can't forget?
>Gyms replaced with boring, inferior fetch quests
They're basically the same as Gyms, they only added some stuff. Also
>Pokémon games in general
>Not a giant fetch quest

8/10 made me reply

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>>29408785
>Pathetic Difficulty
>We don't know that yet

Literally read any interview about SM.

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>>29408414
Here's that (you) for (you)

>>29408227
it's the zelda cycle

I don't know why people are freaking out about how few pokemon there are.

Gen 6 had 72 pokemon. We've seen 70 + alolan forms and ultra beasts. It's the 3D era, we're never going to get 100+ pokemon again.

We already have 720 pokemon. Do we really need to inflate that number more?

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>>29408277
>we literally know nothing aside from the most important thing

>>29409307
>It's the 3D era, we're never going to get 100+ pokemon again.

No, it's because we're nearing 1,000 pokemon.

Once we hit 1,000 we're getting another 150 Gen, I guarantee it.

>>29408714
Neogaf's opinions on video games is worse than /v/.

Disregard them entirely.

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>>29408227
they''re just trying to lower their hopes because they'd rather be right than disappointed, I guess.

even if it means poisoning their own view of the game before they've had a chance to play it, it's really bringing me down, I'm considering leaving /vp/ until the games are properly out, at least, as a result

>>29408227
Welcome to /vp/ OP