>+6 252+ Atk Choice Band Victini Helping Hand V-create vs.

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jokes on you

>>29402357
Step up senpai. Skill swap Huge power
>+6 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Victini Helping Hand V-create vs. -6 0 HP / 0- Def Dry Skin Paras in Harsh Sunshine on a critical hit: 12785488-15041752 (116231709 - 136743200%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>29402357
>>29402512
this is fun.

you can use forest's curse to give it an additional fire weakness so instead of being 5x weak it's 10x weak

idk where the option for that is tho

>>29402648
you have to use something like foretress for that though. Forest's curse doesn't work if it's already part grass type

>>29402512
>>29402357
>so...this is spiral power...

I dunno why, but I find hilarious the idea of this poor Paras getting annihilated by a nuke.

>>29402667
Then the best options are Wormadam-Trash or, weirdly Genesect since they have the joint lowest defence of bug/steel

+6 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Victini Helping Hand V-create vs. -6 0 HP / 0- Def Dry Skin Genesect in Sun on a critical hit: 25608912-30128136 (213407600 - 251067800%) -- guaranteed OHKO

So all you have to do is baton pass 3 swords dances to your banded Victini, skill swap huge power onto it, use sunny day and helping hand and screech your opponent's genesect 3 times while they skill swap dry skin onto it. Then hope you get a crit (maybe baton pass focus energy as well if anything can do that)

oh and of course genesect is level 1 while victini is level 100. boom. 25 million damage.

can anyone beat this

>>29402951
Make it a triple battle with 2 helping hands. Also Fire terrain.

>>29403068
>Fire terrain

this exists?

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>>29402951
Shuckle can beat it

>>29403154
There is a new psychic terrain which boosts psychic, electric terrain already exist.There are 4 guardians which probably share types with Oricorio so it is very likely we will get fire and ghost terrain. Not confirmed though.

+6 252+ Atk Choice Band Pure Power Primal Groudon Helping Hand V-create vs. -6 0 HP / 0- Def Dry Skin Paras in Harsh Sunshine on a critical hit: 19645980-23112924 (163716500 - 192607700%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>29403168
Swampert can beat Shuckle.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/696959-pokemon-x/67632721

Since you can Pokebank RBY mons, what if you use a Mimic Paras with Focus Sash and Counter that V-create?

>>29402357

Has anyone tried this using a Level 1 versus a Level 100?

>>29402951
>can anyone beat this
+6 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Victini Helping Hand V-create vs. -6 0 HP / 0- Def Dry Skin Shedinja in Sun on a critical hit: 6392744-7520876 (639274400 - 752087600%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>29403274
Turns out a level 1 Cyndaquil can just about OHKO a L100 Parasect without even resorting to Skill Swap shenanigans:

+6 252+ SpA Choice Specs Flash Fire Cyndaquil Helping Hand Eruption (150 BP) vs. -6 0 HP / 0- SpD Dry Skin Parasect in Sun on a critical hit: 232-276 (100.8 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO

kek

bump because this is highly relevant and could shape the gen 7 metagame

>>29403507
You can't get Flash Fire and maximum Eruption damage. Replace with Blast Burn.

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Name one Pokemon that can deal more damage

>>29404910
Why not? Flash Fire makes you immune to fire type moves as well as getting a boost from them...

>>29404954
what, no Flower Gift boost?

>>29404910
The Pokemon don't take damage when they gain the boost, it's the same as an immunity

>>29404954
+6 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Victini Helping Hand V-create vs. -6 0 HP / 0 Def Parasect in Harsh Sunshine on a critical hit: 10243564-12051256 (85363033.3 - 100427133.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Power Trick, Huge Power "Ya don't fuckle with" Shuckle on the final hit of Rollout after Defense Curl.
0+ Atk Life Orb Huge Power Shuckle Helping Hand Stone Edge vs. -6 0 HP / 0- Def Combee on a critical hit: 54358-63950 (27043.7 - 31815.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

stupid me, forgot to account for Power Trick and alter stats, among other goof-ups.
+6 252+ Atk Life Orb Huge Power Shuckle Helping Hand Stone Edge vs. -6 0 HP / 0- Def Combee on a critical hit: 463302-545065 (230498.5 - 271176.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>29403199
>Not confirmed though.

Thanks this is all I really needed

>+6 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Slaking Helping Hand Explosion vs. -6 0 HP / 0+ Def Happiny on a critical hit: 3325458-3912304 (25580446.1 - 30094646.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>29403233
if you read that thread, you'll see that shuckle still beats swampert.

>>29406406
>Huge power Slaking

gamefreak please
make a mega slaking with huge power
It'll be fuuun

I changed mewtwo and explosion to a fire type, and abra into bug/grass
>+6 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Mega Mewtwo X Helping Hand Explosion vs. -6 0 HP / 0+ Def Dry Skin Abra in Harsh Sunshine on a critical hit: 28534608-33570132 (259405527.2 - 305183018.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>not using Inferno Overdrive Z-move from V-create Victini
plebs

>>29403330
>+6
>and critical hit
anon..

>>29408709
problem?

>>29408747
Critical hits ignore stat boosts on either side. So if you're using a Kangaskhan with +2 attack from Power-Up Punch, and score a critical hit on a Bisharp with +2 defense, neither boost counts at all.

>>29409386
This hasn't been the case since Gen I...

>>29409386
Crits only ignore negative attack from the user and positive defense from the target

>>29406424
actually no it doesn't, for some reason they say it does but the damage is still higher for Swampert :

755,603,424 vs 721,899,048

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>>29402357
>mfw these threads when we knows the damage calcs for z-moves

this is hot

Isn't Ice ball on forest's cursed noibat the new highest damage possible?

>>29409386
>20 year old mechanic
anon pls

>>29409650
They probably not affected by abilities
Z moves will keep being shit

>>29409386
Looks like someones stuck in 1996

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>>29402671
The Skull Siblings?

Kittan = Guzma confirmed

>>29409650
If we know it just adds 80 BP

A choice item will be better in the long run and short run

>>29409650
ok
>v-create z move is 260 BP
+6 252 Atk Huge Power Victini Helping Hand V-create vs. -6 0 HP / 0 Def Dry Skin Genesect in Sun on a critical hit: 11228520-13210024 (93571000 - 110083533.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Still worse than choice band.

What's the highest damage output from an attack on a Pokémon without actually having the move and ability?

>>29402357
Weak. Let's think outside the box, shall we? We need a triples battle for this one.

+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Deoxys-A Helping Hand x2 V-create vs. -6 0 HP / 0- Def Dry Skin Scizor in Sun: 52389342-61634520

Manually had to calc because PS doesn't have all these conditions. And yes, that's a max roll of over 61 million.

You Skill Swap Color Change, become a Fire type, then skill swap to Huge Power. Mimic V-Create, then use it 5 times, the 5th time on Genesect, to double its damage (2x damage vs 1.5x from Choice Band), PLUS double helping hand, against a level 1 Forest Curse Scizor at -6 and 0 IVs Skill swapped Dry Skin in sun.

This should be the highest amount of damage that's ACTUALLY possible to do in game without cheating. Wormadam and Genesect have minimum levels way above 1, and Scizor's defense is only a single point higher than other Pokemon to compare against at level 1. As a note, if you skill swap flash fire and skill swamp back you lose the bonus, so you can't increase the power more with Flash Fire. Someone point something out if there's any way I didn't think of to do more damage.

Can't shuckle use ice ball through mimic?

>>29403507
this is my favorite one

based cyndaquil

>>29410522
Charmander can learn Overheat yo

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These are nothing, +6 attack helping hand huge power V create crit from lvl 100 primal groudon in the sun vs -6 def dry skin forest curse lvl 1 wormadam.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/triplescustomgame-434487896

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>>29413221
here's the calc, should be twice as much becuase the calc cant take into account the 8X weakness. Literally 1 billion percent of its health.