>It's a "/vp/ judges a Pokemon's design by

>>29391660
....which is a completely valid thing to do.

>>29391684
/thread

>>29391660
sauce?

>>29391660
>>It's a "/vp/ judges a Pokemon's design by the rest of the evolutionary line alone"
...it's a "/vp/ judges a Pokemon's design by the rest of the evolutionary line alone" what? Finish your sentence, anon.

>>29391684
Keyword "alone".

>>29391660
Fucking sauce!

>>29391948
......Which is a conpletely valid thing to do. A pokemon can be shit completely by virtue of its evolutions

>>29391684
>>29391710
>>>/r/etarded

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>>29392051
That's completely false.
A design on its own can be completely amazing. Whether you choose to include the context of the evolutionary line in your judgement up to you, but you're a fucking retard if you think a shit pre-evo or shit evo is the ONLY factor in a design.

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>>29391684

Not really. It makes no rational sense to critique Rhyhorn's design as being bad just because it can eventually evolve into Rhyperior.

>>29392146
>implying magikarp had a shit design
That is what were still talking about right?

>>29391660
t. Samurottfag

>>29392188
Yes really. How a Pokemon fits into the rest of the line is important.

>>29392200
It was honestly just an image attached for the sake of it. But Magikarp and Gyarados have completely different themes, with one being "silly" and another being "cool". >>29392188 is a better example.

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>>29391660
>It's a "OP posts lolsofunny cropped porn as his thread image" episode

>>29391684
>>29391710
>>29392051
>"Its evo's design is shit so it's design is shit by default."

I don't get it.

>>29392219
>But Magikarp and Gyarados have completely different themes

they don't have completely different themes. It's just one theme about the weakest fish becoming one of the strongest based on a real world myth.

If Magikarp evolved into a bear for no reason it would be completely shit.

>>29392257
>>29392209

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So then these were never bad right?

>>29392258
>If Magikarp evolved into a bear for no reason it would be completely shit.

But if Magikarp's DESIGN is the exact same it's still good. The fact it evolves into a bear shouldn't ever even cross your mind, as you're judging MAGIKARP'S design not the bear's.

I think you faggots are talking about concepts or something.

>>29392335
They're pre evos were also garbage, so yes.

>>29392347
the design and how it evolves are relevant to one another.

I enjoy feebas' design a lot more knowing that they made it ugly on purpose to juxtapose its evolution and tell an ugly duckling story.

>>29392335
these are good designs though. Well, Electivire is at least.

>>29392407
There are very few cases like Feebas'. Regardless, Feebas stilll isn't a bad design.

Explain why the existence of Igglybuff should make me hate Wigglytuff. I'm not judging Igglybuff's design. I'm judging Wigglytuff's. They are two separate designs.

>>29392407

>I enjoy feebas' design a lot more knowing that they made it ugly on purpose to juxtapose its evolution and tell an ugly duckling story.

This is a perfect example showing why OP is right in theory but wrong in practice.

Judging a design should have multiple factors. There's multiple ways to judge a Pokemon, and deciding one in the line is shit because of its line is wrong. But at the same time, it can lose points for not making sense in context.

By the same virtue, a design in an excellent line can also be good by its own design, and only be made better by its evolutions.

Sorry if there's any errors, I'm watching TV as I type this and haven't been watching my typing aside from the occasional glance.

>>29392543
>Explain why the existence of Igglybuff should make me hate Wigglytuff.

Igglybuff was introduced after. So if it would make more sense to hate Igglybuff if it didn't fit with Jigglypuff and Wigglytuff. Which IS justified.