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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>Sun & Moon Anime Information
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/story/
[PV1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_2ADXIyEa4
[PV2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mIJnSG3YqM
[PV3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xawFb1MoWio
[PV4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPj5Db8JqGg
[PV5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCVWBQP7JCQ
[PV6] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6B-n0al77c
[PV7] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh6itH1JkXc

Next episode:
>XY&Z47: A Zero With No End! Till the Day we Meet Again!! [Oct 27]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/
https://twitter.com/hadenshi/status/789973584647032832

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z Special: The Legend of XYZ! [Nov 3]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>What's the point of watching it anymore?
To enjoy the ride.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
Never give up until the very end.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>29385014
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XY&Z42 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_042_The_Megalith_Advances!_Kalos'_Defense_Line!![H264_720P][4752582B].mkv.torrent

XY&Z25 POKÉTV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_025_Satoshi_VS_Champion_Carne!_VS_Mega_Sirknight!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][43E7920B].mkv.torrent

XY&Z42/43 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=850249

XY&Z44 RAW:
http://pocketmonstersraws.fansub-torrents.com/[PM-RAW]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_044_We_Start_at_Zero!_Citron's_Decision!![H264_720P][1086E7BD].mkv.torrent

XY&Z45 RAW:
http://pocketmonstersraws.fansub-torrents.com/[PM-RAW]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_045_One_Last_Battle_with_Satoshi!_Serena's_Choice!![H264_720P][24B7451C].mkv.torrent

XY&Z46 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=862007

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z47: A ZERO WITH NO END! TILL THE DAY WE MEET AGAIN!!
>The series finally reaches its finale. The day for Satoshi and Pikachu, and for Serena, to set off from the Kalos Region has arrived. Satoshi and his friends each walk off down a new road for the sake of their respective dreams.

>Summary:
>The day to say goodbye has finally come, and at the airport, Satoshi and his friends swear to definitely meet again one day. But when it is almost time to board the plane, Dedenne runs away. Dedenne it seems it doesn't want to separate from the others... What is it that Eureka tells Dedenne? And while that is going on, Citron suggests having a Pokémon battle with Satoshi...
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>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kensho Ono: Alan
>Mikako Komatsu: Manon
>Hiroshi Tsuchida: Platane
>Masami Toyoshima: Hanako
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Fiarrow
>Kenta Miyake: Onvern
>Noriko Shitaya: Yancham
>Mika Kanai: Nymphia
>Hitomi Nabatame: Harimaron
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Horubee
>Kensuke Sato: Rentorar
>Miyako Ito: Pumpjin
>Yuka Terasaki: Hari-san

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 56 (Oct 30th)

XY&Z Special: The Legend of XYZ! (Nov 3rd)
>A special episode that approaches the mystery of Xerneas, Zygarde, et al: the legendary Pokémon spoken of in Kalos' myths. Professor Sycamore and the journalist Alexa visit some ruins that were recently discovered in the Kalos region. They realize that the stone statues discovered through this investigation are related to the legendary Pokémon and may be the key to solving the mystery of the myth.

XY&Z -MOVIE VER.- (SATOSHI)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6d63pkrvpvcqry3/XY%26Z_MOVIE_VER_%28Both_Sizes%29.zip

THE PIKACHU SONG (PIKACHU)
http://www.megafileupload.com/7hw9/The_Pikachu_Song.m4a

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA
CHAPTER 1: http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
CHAPTER 2: http://imgur.com/a/cGC71
CHAPTER 3: http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1
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Why did Alain get off scott free when he was directly responsible for the shit that went down in Lumiose? What kind of moral is that?
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Just TRY not to be cancer and kill yet another thread, Serenafags

I know it's a lot to ask of you, but give it your all.
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>>29387868
Sorry, we got a little carried away~
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>>29387808
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Long hair Serena best Serena.
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>>29387868
>being so retarded you can't recognize the most blatant falseflagging
End yourself
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>>29387915
Yes anon, the 150 pictures of Serena with zero discussion were "falseflagging"
That's how it works.
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>>29387891
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>>29387891
wwwwwwww
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>>29387923
Good to see you caught on.
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Why are they so cute?
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I like amour but hate amourfags
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>>29388029
>actually thinking the faggots that spammed down the last thread weren't ust falseflagging shitposters
I bet you think Lilliefags are cancer too.
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>>29388117
>Lilliefags are cancer too.
Why not
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Why was Amour handled so badly and never saw Serena gaining the courage to confess to Ash?
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>>29388117
Is there anything dumber than people in /padt/ who think everything is falseflagging?
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>>29388145
Pro tip: Both the people spamming Lillie all the time and the people spamming amour like last thread are just shitposters doing it to falseflag, not actual Lilliefags and amourfags.
Retard.
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My wife is super cute!
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Haha
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IMA KOSO

HITOTSU NI
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:(
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Post Ash and Serena oral sex
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>>29387979
Because they're perfect for each other
Though the price for Amour was maybe a little too high (Omode and Matsui's crazy series)...
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>>29388324
too lewd
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dump more amour
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>>29388161
What do you mean faleflagging? Do you mean to tell me that you believe that there is a conspiracy where people who don't like amour download hundreds of amour images and spam amour posts just to give those who do like amour a bad image?
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>>29388324
>>29388406
post the newest PM XY Gals one with Serena devouring Ash!
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>>29388182
>IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY!!!

Waifufags are autistic, period. And if you think there is some "greater scheme" behind these retarded image spams then you might be autistic, too.
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>>29388154
Because it's Pokémon, if they let that happen then they'd have to write something outside of the 20 year formula
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>>29388414
I think you underestimate autism.
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What if the anon talking about a falseflagging conspiracy is actually a flaseflagger himself
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>>29388451
So what you're saying is yes you believe in a conspiracy
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>>29388414
Sounds considerably more likely than "amourfags" shitting down threads with their spam and being obnoxious on purpose.
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>>29388513
Being obnoxious on purpose? On MY 4chan? NEVER!
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>>29388534
>>29388565
MORE
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>lewdposting
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So which is the strongest trainers in the anime besides Champions and elite 4?

1. Lysandre
2. Alan
3. Tobias
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Is it safe yet?
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>>29388534
What would it be like for Serena to suck you off?
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>>29389114
Ask Satoshi about it
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>>29389114
If you've seen the doujins she literally shoves Ash's cock all the way down her throat and swallows everything. I guess she remembered everything May taught her when they practiced with Misty's dildo in the first PM XY doujin.
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>>29389184
>tongue
>gloves
This amount of lewd in a single pic shouldn't be allowed
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>>29388534
>>29388565
>>29388800
where is the fucking sauce
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>>29389378
You don't know the PM Gals doujins, you can't be this new.
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>>29389378
Leaguefag go
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>>29389432
>>29389434
what, are you blaming me for not be into chinese comics?
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news when

im bored
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>>29389473
Yes. Lurk more
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The writters ruined a great opportunity to change the main character making Ash fuck Serena
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>listen here Satoshi I want that kalos slut away from us, ya hear little mutherfucker?
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>>29389561
It is really disappointing because we also don't know if there will be any future leagues. If there was any time for Ash to win the league it would have been now.

I mean who WILL be the guy/rival Ash finally beats in the league? If he lost to Alan an established character, then who can he win against? They used Tobias and random friends in past leagues, but shouldn't the final league win be against someone important?
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>>29389681
Just think SM is a filler season.

GF will backpedal and go back to gyms, trust me. Gen 8 could be the gen but I doubt it.
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>>29389724
as*
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>>29389724
This
Gen 8 will definitely be THE gen
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>tfw the thread is carrying itself and you don't have to samefag anymore
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>>29389623
but she going to Hoenn was her own decision.
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What do the pink petals symbolize by the way?
A new beginning or something like that?
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>>29389944
Giving up on love and embracing eternal singlehood.
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>>29389944

Exactly. It represents Spring, which is the start of a new cycle of seasons.
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>>29389839
Bet these guys feel dumb now:
>>29387923
>>29388161
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>>29389944
Yea probably, cherry blossoms are in spring, like new school years and shit in anime.
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So in S/M Ash has no real goal since the island trials seem to not be a thing in the anime.

The female characters will also have no real goal for the same reason.

So what is the incentive to watch?
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>>29390059
Comfy fun?
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>>29390010
>>29390044
Thanks
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>>29389944
>>>29389944
>sakura flower symbolizes different ideologies depending on their region of origin, however it is generally considered an omen of good fortune and hope, the emblem of love and passion.
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>>29390059
Eyebleach.
They need it after what happened to our boi Ash in the Kalos league.
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>>29389944
>Sakura-saku kisetsu ni deatte
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>>29390135
That's what the Japanese want you to believe. They make good money on the cherry tree business.
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death
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>"At the end, I could never defeat you, Satoshi."

What did Alan mean by this?
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>>29390270
Manon is precious.
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Why is S/M getting two different 1-hour specials? So we're getting 4 episodes of S/M in only two weeks.

Why is it getting such special treatment?
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>>29390372
this kills the subs
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>>29390364
The Animation Director's subtle way of begging the anime fans for forgiveness after caving to the suits who demanded that Ash lose yet another league.
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>>29390372
The manga adaptation of Naruto is ending, so it's a good place to give that show a short break
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I want Sun/Moon anime to bomb so badly. If its a huge success in Japan the anime will continue in that direction. And we'll never get competent Ash again nor ever see him win a league.

I haven't wanted to see a new saga of the anime fail this badly before. I didn't even feel this way about BW when it was airing.
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>>29390518
Fuck off, Scott.
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>>29390518
I hope the game fails. Fuck the dex and Island trials
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>>29390518
Ash will never win a league no matter what. I'd rather have a comfy SOL Pokemon than a shounen adventure Pokemon that never has any payoff.
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>>29390562
>I'd rather have a comfy SOL Pokemon
literally mostly of the show because of fillers
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>>29390543
>>29390562
>replying
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>>29390562
The thing is the backlash from Ash losing the Kalos league plus poor reception of the Sun/Moon anime would finally convince the writers, "Shit, we fucked up" and then decide that maybe they should have had Ash win a league.

Even if the leagues never return in the games, the writers can make up their own league or have Ash re-challenge the Indigo league and have him win there.
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>>29390612
That would never happen because they won't spend a ridiculous animation budget on an entire season of the anime just to have Ash win some stupid consolidation prize. He already lost the league that was hyped up, breaking every trope along the way. There is no way they will ever have another chance like that. It won't feel genuine, and you will not be satisfied.
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>alternate universe where Ash wins the league

what happens next?
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>>29390699
Have Ash use all his older pokemon and enter the finals of the league again and the hype will be back. Sure nobody will be fooled a second time, which is why it'd be even better if he finally wins.
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>>29390743
The anime ends.
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>>29390782
Sounds like a shitty universe.
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There are 3 things that seem to be held back for the final season of the anime:

1. Ash winning a league and going on to the Champion league

2. Giovanni/Team Rocket final climax like all the other villain teams

3. Ash finally meeting Ho-oh (?)


Seems like these 3 things were foreshadowed since the OS and we're still waiting. They've been delayed indefinitely.
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>>29390778
Sounds like something a young teenager would write. What a stupid pile of fanservice. I can't wait for 24 episodes of Ash reconnecting with all his old Pokemon who the younger viewers (the largest audience) will not recognize. I'm sure it won't feel like a cheap asspull for them to see Ash just continually draw super powerful Pokemon out of his sleeve for an entire season.
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>>29390822
Well you asked what would happen. That's what would happen. The story ends when the hero reaches their goal.
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Daily reminder that nothing in life matters besides winning
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>>29390940
Didn't he already win the Orange League?
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>>29390953
That's like winning at locals instead of nationals.
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>>29390867
That's literally no different then Ash using old Pokemon in the Sinnoh league. Ash used Noctowl who hadn't seen any action since Johto....you think the kids watching DP knew Ash had a shiny Noctowl?

So how would that be any different then the same thing happening again? They don't have to explain where all of Ash's old pokemon are from
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>>29390849
Too bad Tomioka is dead
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>>29391011
1 old Pokemon =/= An entire team of old Pokemon

It's bad from a storytelling perspective because it's just a bunch of fandom wank. Even by the Pokemon anime's standards is that a shit idea.
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>>29390980
What about the Frontier thing?
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>>29391093
>because it's just a bunch of fandom wank
Go back to Tumblr, scum
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>>29391099
That's a little better, but the thing about it is, Ash won, but refused to reap the spoils of victory and become a Frontier Brain. It's sort of like working hard for a week and then refusing your paycheck.
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>>29391123
Explain to me how any of the things I said upset you so much that you popped a vein and deduced I must browse tumblr. I am genuinely curious.

You know I'm right. Pulling an "Ash gets his ultimate team of badass old Pokemon and must defeat the ultimate champion rival, this time for real!" is fanfiction-tier stupid. It does nothing but jerk off the old fans who honestly should have either outgrown this childrens' show or learned to accept it for what it is: A promo for the current games.
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>>29391264
Faggot
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Death battle when?
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>>29391264
>accept it for what it is: A promo for the current games.

Yep pretty much, this is why he lost the kalos league, ash-greninja got thrown out the window, and amour was a dead end.
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sleeping thread
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>>29391918
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>>29391956
Why are they so bad at their respective goals and choke at the most important moment together?
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>>29391974
>bad at their respective goals and choke at the most important momen
See ? they are perfect for each other
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>>29391974
They didnt choke, they just lost.
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>>29391974
>Oh wow Elle so good at performances I'm not good enough
>Lol I was only pretending to try to win this shit I'm only here to have fun

They are cancer
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>>29392092

>Serena was trying to win for herself and friends
>Elle was trying to have a good time
>Elle wins

>Satoshi was trying to have a good time and battle strong opponents
>Alain was battling for Manon and Mega Energy
>Alain wins

what
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>>29391974
You can literally post the DP version of this with Ash losing to Tobias and Dawn to Zoey and its the same thing.
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>we'll never have scenery porn like this ever again

Will XY/XY&Z's scenery ever be beat?
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>>29392250
Look at those houses and mountains. That's a lot of work for a scene that's only shown for like 5 seconds in the anime.
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>>29390135
>the emblem of love and passion.
Makes sense
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>>29392374
Amour was really a waste of time.
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>>29392131
Alan dun goofed. He should had gone for Elle instead of Manon, in order to give birth to the strongest bloodline.
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>>29392410
>29392410
it gave tons of fanart and gave an good canon ending for satoshi if pokemon anime was a real anime and not pokemon advertising.
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>>29392410
I love how much Amour triggered the pokeshippers. They thought they were "safe" and that the writers would never ship Ash with another girl after Misty. I'm glad to see they were shaken up.

Too bad Amour didn't go all the way, but oh well.
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>>29392481
Misty and ash didnt have couple chemistry though, they were more friends.
Ash and Serena were more of a couple than satoshi with all the pokegirls together.
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>>29392565
Some people would argue Serena and Ash's chemistry was weak because of her crush on him. Serena was afraid to confess, so it held back their dynamic and made their whole relationship a bunch of empty teases to romance that never resulted in anything.
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>>29392565
Most pokeshippers were females who imprinted on Misty when they were kids so they thought the way Misty acted and her views on boys is how all girls should be when they grew up. Since most of them were young 6-10 year old kids when Kanto were airing, they thought Misty was the only way a girl should act.

That's why after Misty left they also kept complaining that May and Dawn were "too girly" because in their minds they thought Misty was the only way a girl could be. Its like they couldn't comprehend girls have more than one type of personality
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>>29392604
But they gave each other courage when it most mattered, like on pic related or Snowbelle
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>>29392742
And look where those words of encouragement lead them to: >>29391974
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>>29392349
did we even actually get to see them go around the place? i feel like we only actually saw the gym and pokecenter
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So how did the Japanese take Greninja leaving? Browsing through some of their twitters, pixiv or whatever, they didn't seem too bothered. On english speaking sites people keep whining about Greninja "being released" but it seems the Japanese don't see it as a permanent goodbye.
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Does anyone have a link to download Kira Kira?
Or just the vocal songs of XY in general
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Naruto
Bleach
InuYasha
Sonic X

Even the most hated and overblown kiddie anime had requited romance in them. How does it feel knowing that the Pokémon anime is going to reach lows that we never dreamed possible?
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>>29392604
But they always treated each other well. Thats probably because XY ash is the most mature ash in the anime, but overrall they were friends but very close friends. They gave each other advices, care for each other, hand holding, meaningful moments, even an mature argue, not a childish one. Plus childhood flashback, and Serena's crush, obviously.
Misty, May and Dawn were friends no matter how hard you shipped them.
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>>29392826
Blame the status quo
Yajima's quote, "The staff thought it was alarming that I said I wanted to change her hairstyle since she was a character from the game." is proof the staff only cares about promoting the games, and not about Ash
The staff only says: "ok writers build a story with these characters, these Pokemon and this setting"
We should be happy that the writers managed to change Serena's design, because her new one looks nothing like game Serena
At least they fought against the status quo, and I'm sure the director wanted Ash to win the league
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>fanart as the OP pic
>literally seven S&M preview videos
>thread getting 3 posts an hour

It's like being a little kid in the hospital watching your grandma die. She tries to hold on, but as the hours pass by, you know that she will be gone. You just hope you'll be there for one last day until she reaches her zero with no end, and then she finally passes away...
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>>29394298
I told everyone these threads would die once S/M begins. I'm telling you after the first 5-10 S/M eps these threads will be a ghost town. They'll probably die off entirely.

It's been real, guys. This was a great place to discuss not just XY but the anime overall. But its all pretty much over.
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>>29394373
Yeah, I had fun with this place and XY. I really wish the series wasn't going in such a depressing direction, but it can't be helped. There's nothing to get excited about now.

Maybe next gen they'll try something more interesting again. XY wasn't perfect and didn't fully deliver, but it at least felt like it was shaking things up and progressing the series in a logical way.
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>>29394473
And when the time came to prove it, they backpedaled, so what's the point?
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>>29394504
The journey, not the destination, I suppose.
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>>29394504
The writers seem to not want Ash to win a league until the show is either ending or they know they're getting rid of Ash for a new protagonist. That's really the only explanation as to why they didn't let him win the league this time.

They probably think Ash winning a league is too big an accomplishment for the show to still go another decade afterward.
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>>29390953

That's a loser's mentality speaking.
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>>29391725

Sorry about your cat's VA.
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>>29394518
>The journey, not the destination, I suppose.
>This meme again
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What was the best /padt/ moment?
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>>29394765
Citron falling for Clemont during the Flare arc
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>>29394568
But winning the league does NOT mean Pokemon Master. Hell, beating Cynthia or Steven, etc. doesn't mean Pokemon Master. It's such a bullshit goal.
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>>29394765
The one where all the normies invaded the thread thinking Ash would win the league only to be absolutely crushed :^)
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>>29394819
At least it was an entertaining way for both /padt/ and the anime to crash and burn.
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>>29394765
Anytime before the date episode when the worst thing we had were korni and bergmite posters
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>>29394841
XY will forever be known as the hypest ride of the series
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>>29394765
Ash winning the league
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>>29394765
when Serenafags got BTFO
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>>29394765
When Adamant confirmed the XY&Z 38 title and everyone was happy and excited (including me)
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>>29394863
It was genuinely exciting following XY the first time through because we didn't know what would happen and we believed the hype. The DP saga made me feel a similar feeling.
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>>29394917
That title, man. What the fuck convinced them it was an acceptable title for that episode?
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so here's the real question: how long will it take for Serenafags to become obsolete
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I really liked the color coordination thing the XY openings did
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>>29395049
Until /padt/ is dead so in a few weeks.
They'll probably still make these threads and spam amourshit until Ash marries somebody
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>>29395049

if they're the real deal, their legacy might actually be good enough to rival that of the Mistyfags
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How do they keep getting away with this?
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>>29395072
Wouldn't be too unbelieveable. People still talk about other random ships that have been gone for years like Contestshipping, Advanceshipping, Pearlshipping and all other random nonsense like Ikarishipping, Penguinshipping, Ash/Gary Pallethsipping and so forth.

One thing I've learned after being in the fandom for so long is that old pokemon characters are never forgotten no matter how long they've been gone from the show. People literally still talk about everyone.
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It appears that /padt/ is asleep, maybe it's for the better.
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Serena asleep
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>>29395313

sleep now, fap tomorrow
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Did he want to see her in that dress?
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>>29395479
squiddo's pretty fucking forward if he actually said that
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>>29394765
The day the status quo was broken.

Honestly there were so many great moments in these threads that it's hard to decide.

But for me, Korrina's gym battle has to be #1. Everything about the episode build up was perfect and the excitement in the threads was incredible.

It was on par with the the League final, but condensed only to the users from these threads instead of board wide.

Also does anyone have the picture of the get? I can't locate mine.
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>>29395489
He said something "look at this" and Serena replied "kawaii".
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>>29395528
knew i shouldn't've hoped
i hope that the S/M anime either bombs hard to make them pay for this crud or does so good that we won't actually care about these insults
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>>29395496
the korrina gym battle is considered as one of the worst why would there be so much hype for that??
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>>29395557
Eh, Ash caring for things like dresses is kind of out of character for him.
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>>29395565
>Considered one of the worst
I don't know where you've been hearing that, but at the time Ash VS Korrina was a big deal and one of the most exciting battles to watch in these threads.

Remember we didn't know what we know now.

There were a bunch of factors that contributed to the hype:
>Ash in the history of Pokemon had never defeated a Lucario
>Ash was fighting a Lucario AND a Mega for the first time
>We had no idea if he was going to win, draw, or lose to Korrina
>Korrinas arc showed us how powerful Mega Lucario and Korrina were and the massive difference in power compared to Pikachu

The idea of Ash defeating a Mega at the time didn't seem very plausible, ESPECIALLY since the Mega was Mega Lucario.

So back then we hoped for a win but expected a draw at the most where Korrina was going to give Ash a badge similar to Maylene back in Sinnoh. So when Ash went into the battle, got 2 consecutive KO's and then had both his mons taken out by M-Lucario things were looking iffy. But then Pikachu became a hero and had one of if not its most memorable fight in the XY series.

When Pikachu got the win we were fucking ecstatic. Pikachu and Ash managed to get their 3rd badge AND defeat a Lucario and Mega for the first time. It was so exciting and one of my all time favorite moments in these threads.
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subs when
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>>29395686
This sounds exactly like the league finals, doesn't it?
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>>29395690
We've got new ones on Friday, so maybe next Friday?
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>>29395692
Ash VS Korrina was basically Ash VS Alan in the finals but with a good outcome.

I said in the post that the hype was much like that of the League Finals but for only our small community in these threads, the excitement was infectious especially because at the time XY had been really unpredictable. We were wondering if after the Gym Battle Korrina would have given him a Mega Ring from the Mega Volt Opening, or if we would start a mega arc afterwards. If he would defeat or draw against her.

There were so many possibilities since the series was still fairly new and everyone was enjoying it immensely.

The fight also proved that Pikachu was reaching Sinnoh tier strength after defeating a Mega and being the first of Ashs Pokemon to defeat one. It was a fun and exciting fight and one of my favorites because of all the memories from that time.
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>>29395738
so originally, i was just laughing at the fags who were so upset over Ash losing
but after reading this, I'm actually really pissed on the dude's behalf
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>>29395738
And then Fagninja came in and ruined everything.
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>>29395792
Greninja didn't take the spotlight until XYZ.

Until then all of Ashs Pokemon got even screen time except for Noivern. Talonflame believe it or not is the Pokemon of Ashs who fought in the most Gym Battles. Then Pikachu then Greninja.
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>>29395861
Just another reason why XYZ is BW-tier garbage.
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What does Manon see in that edgefag bastard?
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>>29395792
>>29395861
>>29395863
Jobfrog tried his best.
Greninja was ultimately cucked by executive meddling sadly.
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>>29387808
>3 years of Serena's crush going nowhere
>3 years of nothing from Ash's side
>'Never give up until the very end'
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>>29395861
Noivern did get attention but most of it was prior evolving.
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>>29395916
But it's not the end :^)
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I don't understand how people can still be surprised by results when people have been coming here telling them exactly whats going to happen every day

That's just not normal
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XY = BW

XY&Z = Episode N
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>>29395949
That's simple.
People want to hope for best, even when they know it's not coming.
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>>29395922
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>>29395949
>posting on /vp/
>normal
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https://twitter.com/hinopika/status/790446855112884224 short preview
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>>29395991
>tfw Serena took down the chicken with her

FREE CHICKEN-CHAN
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>>29396020
Nothing of value was lost.
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>>29395889
He's hardly a jobber when he pretty much killed everything in sight except for Charizard.
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>>29396010
>dat background
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>>29396040
I find it funny that when you come to think of Alan's MVP in that battle was Bisharp and Ash's was Pikachu not Charizard nor Greninja.
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>>29395916

> A Zero with No End

> With No End

> No End

It'll never end.
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>>29395049

You know how long Pokeshippers have been at it since Misty's last appearance?

Around that long.
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>>29396056
Or how would have the battle ended if they had started with greninja and Charizard first
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What do you guys think about Ash returning to Kanto? will he see Misty again?
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>>29396117
Ha.
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>>29396117
At this point we should wonder if he'll even return to Kanto at all.
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>>29396117
She's probably with Tracey again like back before kalos
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>>29395949
You say everyday, but it really wasn't until people started posting on every other board about the League that people started saying Ash was going to lose.

A vast majority of us saw Ash winning, every single sign pointed towards it. Story cliche's and tropes that helped set up a future win were all over the place, they set everything up and the stars basically aligned for a win at the League. It was a genuine surprise that Ash lost.

You can say "He is destined to lose forever" or "Anyone who thought him winning the Kalos League was possible is an idiot" but if you had been in these threads for multiple years from the very start and watched the progress he and the entire group made, watched him rise to the top after his loss in BW, Ash winning looked clear as day.

People who say XY is BW are low tier bait posts. The reason BW is so despised is how EVERYTHING was garbage in it. The Pokemon, the companions, the league, the gyms, the rivals. EVERYTHING. The only good thing that came out of it was the last episode, "My Dream! Pokemon Master!"

XY in regards to the entire Pokemon series is basically as good as we're realistically ever going to see it until they decide to retire Ash.

>>29396056
Had Ashs Pokemon not jobbed and Pikachu had been given proper rest, it's incredible to think that Pikachu could have taken out Charizard. After getting 2 wins and bringing Charizard to its knee's in its weakened state had Pikachu been at full charge it would have had a good shot at defeating it. Or at the least gotten more damage off to set up the win for Greninja.
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>>29396167
>how EVERYTHING was garbage in it. The Pokemon
I think the pokemon personalities are very well written in BW, i used to enjoy their interactions, in XY the pokemon acts very annoying most of the time, not all of them but still...
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>>29396167
Agreed 100% on the first part of your post.

As for the second part, despite Goo.dra's shit performance, there couldn't have been a better setup for Greninja to defeat Charizard. Their matchup started with Greninja at full health and powered up by rain and Charizard already weakened by Pikachu. There was no logical reason for Greninja to lose, not even in the battle itself. It would've made much more sense for Charizard to be the one to faint at the end, without changing anything else.
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>>29396206
I agree 100% that Greninja should have been the one to earn Ash the win against Alan.

I was talking in a hypothetical situation had Ashs other Pokemon besides Hawlucha and Talonflame had held their weight in the fight.

Imagine if Pikachu was fresh and hadn't fought yet in the battle when it was put up against Charizard. With how it fought in the battle it would have stood a serious chance at winning considering it was exhausted by the time Charizard had come out.
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>>29396167
Responding to this post just to say that the rivals in bw were better than in xy. Except for trip.
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>>29396360

Cameron.
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>>29390414

You have no idea of what an animation direvtor does
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Lillie is like one of those main heroines you see looking at the sky or the sea with the MC staring at such a beautiful scene.
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>>29396152
This. How do we know he's not moving to alola? It seems Delia is sticking around so it could be possible
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>>29396360
The BW rivals never felt like rivals though.

We had Trip who was completely wasted since Ash defeated him in a fucking 1v1 in the Unova League.

Cameron had the potential to be good, I remember him and Ash getting lost in the forest and humming Mezasai Pokemon Master which I enjoyed. But other then that his bullshit 5V6 battle, his Riolu mid battle evo, were all terrible.

Eevee Trainer was trash, literally the worst League Champion. Had Ash been Hoenn tier in strength it would have been a simple win for him.

Bianca and the fat kid were never really rivals, just kind of there. Bianca was really the only character I like because she had great hips and was cute.

Like the rest of BW the rivals were wasted and never really used to their full potential.
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>>29396416
Certainly she is very pretty.
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Did anything good even come out of XY/XY&Z?
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>>29396447
Terufuu porn, and even that went out with a whimper.
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>>29396390
>rival
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>>29396447
>Serena, Clemont, Bonnie
>Hawlucha
>The music
>AshGreninja
>The battles
>Fan Art
>Ships
>Best Ash
>Fun
>Background art
>Zygarde Forms
>Mirror World, Serena dressed as Ash, Hawlucha VS Hawlucha, M-Sceptile VS AshGreninja and so much more
Fuck off with your negative shit.
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>>29396117
This is really nice fanart.
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>>29396447
XY it had potential in the past but that's over, they throw the potential into the trash with XYZ.
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>>29396471
>no Alan
It's like you don't enjoy taking dragon cock up your ass.
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>>29395049
They are already obsolete.
If you mean, when will they dissapear or move on? That is all a matter of how desperate they are.
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>>29396473
understatement
it is nothing short of a will of steel that is stopping from peeling off my undergarments and fapping to that right now
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>>29396473
Oh yes this artist is good.
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>>29395738

> the writers already know how badly they fucked up

Heh.
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>>29396516
They do. That's why SM isn't keeping the same director and lead writer. :^)
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>>29396471
>ships
>good
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>>29396447
https://youtu.be/z8BcZ0nCmxA

The cutest scene in the history of the anime
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>>29396601

and the sad part
is that it will officially go fucking nowhere
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>>29396601
Serena will never top this
https://youtu.be/EeBIizGlitQ
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>>29396601
>mfw I hate retcons with a burning passion
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>>29396616
Serena's character never really went nowhere, she didn't complete her goals, she didn't win Ash's heart who is still completely oblivious to her feelings, and she will be put on the plane likely to never be seen again just like all those before her.
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>>29396656

this is also true, unless she gets hella ballsy in the last episode
she is officially confirmed best girl if she grows that spine, though
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>>29396660
What did that retcon?
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>>29396656
The only way this could happen again is if one of the Ash future female companions happens to be a pokemon.
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>>29396601
XY gave us a lot of cute scenes
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>>29396705
Jelilliefish
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I Iove you, Lillie!
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>>29396720
Please stay away from my wife, anon.
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>>29396680
retroactive continuity doesn't necessarily have to cancel out existing material.
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>>29396731
Don't worry I won't get anywhere near that street slut Serena.
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>>29396739
Neither would i because my wife is the beauty known as Lillie.
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>>29396720
>>29396739
Ash you horny fag wait until Serena is gone at least....
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>>29396731
Let's all go to parallel universes so we all can marry Lillie!
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>>29396747
IIE, RIRIE GETTO DAZE!
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>>29396755
Fine, but my universes Lillie is cuter than yours.
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>>29396770
Mine is the cutest
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>>29396781
Yeah well my Lillie is the super cutest!
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In my universe, Lillie has shot both Mallow and Lana who were also interest in me. She's really crazy for me!
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Hanging out with squids again? Looks like the new kid needs to be lectured.
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Tell me about Lillie, why does she wear the hat?
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>>29396817
Because she's a CUTE
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>>29396817
It would be indecent for a nobleman's daughter like her to not be wearing one. Plus it protects her marble white skin from harmful UV rays
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>>29396817
The hat can be used as a sharp object to get rid of street sluts like Serena
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>>29396743
>>29396770
>>29396781
>>29396797

yeah, well THIS Lillie wants to know why all yall desperados keep calling her "your Lillie" and act like her purpose in like is to become your fictional fuckmeat
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Lillie's like that daughter of a head of a rich christian family that owns a cotton farm.
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>>29396833
Yeah well THIS Lillie wants to know why you saved an image from ifunny.
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>>29396841
Exactly.

And one day at the Tauros race track her hat flies away and Ash manages to catch it. Her father doesn't want her to talk to commoners and mingle with them, so he calls her back but not before she gives Ash a smile and thanks him for being such a gentleman.
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>>29396827
If I took it off would she die?
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>>29396841
She's like someone you would actually think that you'd never have a chance with and does not deserve you.
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>>29396867
Maybe? She's a big girl so she should be fine.
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>>29396847
Gunposting ain't allowed.
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>>29396847
yeah, well THIS bear wants you to know that that was a complete accident
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>>29396817
If I take that hat off, will you die?
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ENOUGH
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W-why do I have to go and wake up Satoshi, Professor Kukui?
I know I'm your assistant, but... it's not my problem the Kanto boy is sleeping in and about to miss school.

Geez fine, I'll go kick him out of bed.
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>>29396903
Reminder that we are gag Anime now so this is how it would happen
https://youtu.be/dtmBuP5HyoM
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>>29396903
>WAKEY WAKEY, KANTO BOY
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>>29396901
What are they saying?
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>>29396903
>I've cooked breakfast for you, kanto boy! Fresh colorful mushrooms I picked early this morning
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>>29396955
But Lillie is 95% tsun and only 5% dere
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>>29396951
I'd get excited over Lillies arm pits too.
>>
where the fuck were we given reason to believe that lillie is tsundere
(p-please stop... my dick will have a harder time taking this if confirmed)
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>>29396974
Her official game art
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>>29396974
This is what I've been wondering. Atleast game Lillie's personality isn't tsun at all.
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Hatless Lillie is cute, makes her look so casual
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>>29396979

well, there you have it
you can no longer frown without being tsundere
you heard it here first, folks
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>>29397007
She is mostly hatless in the trailers.
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>>29396963
Which soon will be 50/50
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DORAGON DESU~
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But who will win the Ash?
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>>29397054
SQUIDO DESU~
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>>29397069

nobody, most likely
but if they really gonna try the romance route again, it'll probably be Lillie
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>>29396963
Lillie is a nice girl though.
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>>29397074
What if they go with the Kanojo x Kanojo x Kanojo route?
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>>29397069
Isn't it obvious?
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>>29397100
Not sure what you mean. All I see is the energetic girl Mallow who is also class president doing her duty of showing the new student around the campus.
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>>29397111
First girl, anon.
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>>29397120
We know that only pokémon can win the Ash.

It seems like a certain someone might actually be half a pokémon... I wonder...
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Teacher! why do I have to pair up with this silly boy?
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>>29397111

that, plus if they really try this romance stuff again, it'll definitely be Lillie
that girl was pretty much designed to be waifu bait
<s>and if she's really an Ultra Beast, then Ash will be that much more interested in her</s>
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>>29397120
Worst girl, Anon.

just kidding that title goes to Lillie
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>>29397135
Interesting way of doing spoilers, anon
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>>29397135
><s></s>
Where did you come from perhaps?
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>>29397135
><s>
Get out
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>>29397135
REDDIT LEAVE NOW
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>>29397152
I like lillies!
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>>29397135
This must be bait
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>>29397172
THAT WAS MY PUN
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>>29397125
Latias?
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I SATOSHI FROM MASARA TOWN DECLARE THAT THE ONLY GIRL WHO I HAVE EVER BEEN INTERESTED IN IS SERENA FROM THE KALOS REGION. LILLIE IS A DUMB SQUID.
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>>29397204
I-is she gone now? Phew... that crazy bitch held a gun to my head, forcing me to read out this awkward and untrue statement.

So glad she's leaving to Hoenn.
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>>29397204
KOUGA KOUGA GEKKOUGA
(GET OUT OF MY TRAINER'S CLOTHES YOU STREETSLUT)
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>>29397152
>>29397155

*shuffles around anxiously* I'm a newfag from GameFAQs

>>29397159
>>29397170
plz no
i need to learn more about za warudo

>>29397178

trust me, if that was bait, people would have fallen for it
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>people thinking Lillie stands a chance
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>>29397229
Silly anon, she's not even attempting. Why would she? She's married to me.
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>>29397229
The trick is to bank on the unexpected.

Everyone thought

>Oh Misty, they could end up together..
>Oh May, she's nice, I could see that
>Oh Dawn, wow she is pretty, hope he gets with her
>Oh Iris... next
>Oh Serena.. wow this time it's REALLY obvious, she'll be his gf!

And every time people were wrong.

But now they think
>Ash getting a harem ending with three girls? Yeah right, as if.

Just you wait.
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>>29397249
So Lana ending confirmed?
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>>29396167
>>29396167
You're kidding. Right?
There is no way they successfully "fooled"
everyone who continued watching

I'm going to admit I didn't watch the anime so I have no idea how it would have affected me
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>>29397220
One mistake you shouldn't have made is showing your newfaggotry

You have to go back
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>>29397249
May and Dawn felt like more like friendships than romances.
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CUUUTE
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>>29397204
Why is she so cute ?
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>>29396812
So is Ash going to be the straight man who gets shit on like he was back during the Indigo League?
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>>29397229

but she does

>>29397249

shit, you might be on to something

>>29397254

lana is anal backwards, so why not

>>29397265

plz
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>>29397331
stop posting
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>>29397249
May felt like a friend.
Dawn was very close to Ash but they felt like brother and sister.
Iris was a cunt.
Serena was too beta, her crush was painfully one-sided and limited her own interactions with Ash.
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I wanna bully da satoshi
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>>29397346

so the real matter is finding a chick who has guts that likes him
maybe serena will pull a latias and snog him before he leaves
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>>29397220
RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>29397220
I came from gamefaqs too, a long long time ago.
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>>29397394
Change your writing style my friend. It's easy to know who you are and I can't take it seriously. People here are autists you know
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>>29397532

no way
cheese, is that you

>>29397517

did you ever go back
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>>29397593
>cheese, is that you
Who?

LEAAAAVEEE
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>>29397593

run away, simba, and never come back
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>>29397593
>did you ever go back
I only post on a few game boards as necessary, but lately I haven't accessed the site at all.
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>>29397120
>First girl
What?
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>>29394883

this to be completely honest with all of you fampais
>>
>thread had actual decent discussion about XY as a whole
>suddenly just picdumping and Lilliespam again
I hate leaguefags
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>Lillie is an ultra-beast
>goes back to her own planet at the end of the series or whatever
literally the perfect excuse to have ash fall in love with someone with no repercussion to his journey as a whole because it'll reset anyway before the end of the series
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>>29397739
>last thread was just a Serena pic spam and no discussion whatsoever
I hate amourfags
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>>29397739
Those are not leaguefags, it's just the people that jumped on the new SM hype. Serena and XY related stuff is now old and no longer enjoyable for them.
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>>29397784
>implying it won't just be a "We will we see each other again, I promise!" as usual
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>inb4 3 new threads
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>>29397793
But she is a cute, just look at her
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>>29397784
>SM Ash capable of falling in love.
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>>29397881
>mfw the executives signed "Satoshi Characteristic Update: He can experience romantic emotions now"
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>>29397966
kek if anything he is more like Luffy now and Luffy is totally asexual according to Oda
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>>29397881
>now
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>>29397873
People don't talk very often about old pokegirls here doesn't matter if they are cute or not.
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>>29397966
Same executives that signed "Main Girl Characteristic Update: She can experience romantic emotions towards Satoshi now" back at XY.

Same executives that rejected Ash winning league proposal
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>>29398033
If they want to market new alola pokemon at least one of them must evolve.
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>>29398033
>any evos in SM or are they going to replace it with gaining new z moves?
What do you mean? Like Ash's Pokemon evolving? SM has a shit ton of single stage Pokemon so I dunno
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Fuck it, have a proper thread that isn't just blatant bait for a change:
>>29398532
>>29398532
>>29398532
Thread posts: 357
Thread images: 109


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