>Battle Bond Greninja is essentially an alt forme (think similar to cosplay pikachu) of Greninja not an extra ability given to Greninja. Credit to SciresM.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pokemon-sun-and-moon-demo-datamine-collection.3584810/page-35#post-7040948
So, it's nature locked as Hardy and on top of that it's unbreedable. RIP.
You mean the ability is unbreedable or the Pokemon is infertile as a whole?
>>29297768
Fucking lol.
It's not like the increased attacking stats are better than protean anyway
>>29297796
By similar to Cosplay Pikachu, I assume it means it can't breed at all, just like Cosplay Pikachu.
>>29297796
>becomes like ash
>can't breed
Kek
>>29297768
Not a real shocker. All anime special based mons are unbreedable.
Plus battlebond being breedable would require others learning it.
>>29297801
They actually are, only 2% weaker on non-stab moves and 10% stronger on stab moves
>>29297768
>it's unbreedable
source on that pls
Makes sense that it can't breed, Ash's Greninja is one of a kind.
>>29297827
>It's going to be like Spiky Eared Pichu and cosplay 'chu and be stuck in SM permanently
>>29297845
They actually aren't
>>29297889
Or you can trade it but never breeds forever.
>>29297905
>implying trading and pokebank are the same thing
What a waste. Should have just been a mega evolution and then given the rest of the gen 6 starters mega's later. Really disappointing to have some starters get special treatment and not the rest, and this is coming from someone who Greninja is in their top 5 pokemon.
>>29297827
Most likely Ash-Greninja got castrated by Charizard's BURASTO BAAN.
From now on, always remember that Charizard is the reason why Battle Bond cannot be bred down.
>it can hold items too
I'll give it the best item it deserves.A flame orb
>>29297827
Well I guess that's why it's called Ash-Greninja
>>29297768
The only job of Ash Greninja is to make the game even easier for mobile players. They will transfer him from the demo and just one shot everyone in game. He wasn't made to be used competitive.
>>29297827
Please give this post more yous so we can have an ebin screencap
>>29297827
>>29297968
Z move
>>29298120
How much you wanna bet it'll get a unique Z-Move?
>>29297889
It'd be the first time an alternate form wasn't available going forwards, besides the Spiky-eared Pichu and Cosplay Pikachus which are just cosmetic variants.
>>29298155
1million.
>>29298235
A million Space bucks? That's not fair!
>>29297827
>>29297768
>Hardy nature
>Therefore it's ruined
No it's fucking not. Just do super training. Who gives a fuck about that extra 10%? I bet you my left nut it will still perform well.
>>29299026
Super training can't fix a shit nature
>>29299026
It's already EV trained anon
>>29299026
Hardy puts it at a pretty bad speed tier. It doesn't even outspeed base 108 mons before Battle Bond activates.
>>29299026
It's outspeed by anything with base 108 speed and a + nature before going Ash, it can't change types so Terrakion, Virizion, Cobalion, Raikou, Serperior, Whimscot, Sceptile, and Talonflame outspeed. After going Ash it's outspeed by anything 117 base speed with a + nature. With paper thin defenses it's going to die without outspeeding.
>>29299253
Maybe it will be usable with sticky web support.
>>29297827
Damn son.
>>29299349
Sure but anything can be use able with sticky Web support. Sticky Web doesn't work against Talonflame, Bisharp, or the fighting type Mach punch users.
I wish there was an item that allow you to change a pokémon's nature
>>29297827
DELETE THIS
>>29299026
If you lose the bet, give it to Ashninja. He'll need it.
Reminder that is has 20 IVs on HP and defenses so it's like having 5.5 less Base Stat on each of those stats.
>>29299451
t. Serena
>>29297827
haha
>>29299180
>>29299133
Or whatever it's called. The one that fixes IVs not EVs.
>>29299396
You also have to watch out for Magic Bouncers that ruin your strategy.
>>29297809
Actually, it's more like Notch eared Pichu or Cosplay Pikachu; it's non breedable and cannot be stored in PokeBank.
It's Sun/Moon exclusive event to promote DVD sales of XY&Z anime and nothing more.
This is what I get for being hyped.
Been hoping for a year that I could use Ashninja in-game, and when I finally get it, it's irredeemable trash.
At least Zygarde has potential.