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Is there a full list of the design trends in Pokemon somewhere?

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Is there a full list of the design trends in Pokemon somewhere? Like how (almost) every gen there's always an electric rodent pokemon, a badass insect pokemon, a girly flower pokemon, a ugly pokemon that turns powerful... etc
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>>29283320
Small cutesy mythical mew clone thing.
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>>29283320
Every generation includes a normal Pokemon, and a Flying Pokemon. And a Ghost Pokemon. It's insane.
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Trio Legendaries
3 stage early game bird
Fossil pokemon
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Pink fatties
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>>29283320
Fire-Fighting may as well be a trend at this point.

>>29284017
Not common enough.
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Inanimate objects
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mushrooms
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>>29283553
Joke's on you, there's no trio in Gen 7, and no fossils in Gens 2 and 7.
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>>29284402
Magnemite wold have been garbage if it were just a magnet. At least GF tried to build the inanimate object into the design of a more organic thing... as opposed to literally just making a living gear, a living icecream cone, and a living chanedlier....

Sludge and eggs are at least natural seeming.
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>>29283595
I actually like this consistency, although later gen designs could be better. Also, ferrets/weasels and raccoons aren't Rodentia - that line should be regional small mammal.
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>>29283320
Obvious, but pseudo-legendaries

2-stage normal type rodent and 3 stage normal/flying bird at the start of the game

This is a rarer one, but any Eeveelution always evovles using a mechanic that's new to that game

Umbreon/Espeon - new day/night mechanic
Glaceon/Leafeon - new location-based evolution mechanic
Sylveon - Pokémon amie
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>>29284670
> Eggs with eyes
> Ice cream with eyes
What's the problem?
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>>29284670
explain to me what's natural about eggs? literally my mom's groceries. might as well have a bacon pokemon to go with it
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>>29284584
Thank fucking god, I always hated trio legendaries. Forced designs that are shit.
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Three stage dragon-ish Pokémon you find late in the game or that are really rare, that evolve into their third stage at a high level

I say "dragon-ish" because most people include Tyranitar in this and it's not a dragon

So: Dragonair, Tyranitar, Salamence, Garchomp, Haxorus/Hydreigon, Goodra, and presumably Kommo-o
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>>29284843
They came out of the asshole of a hen. They
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What's gen 7's pixie?
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Cats, maybe? Every generation but 2 has had one, and they're almost always two-stage:

Gen 1: Meowth/Persian
Gen 2: none
Gen 3: Skitty/Delcatty
Gen 4: Glameow/Purugly, Shinx line
Gen 5: Purrloin/Liepard
Gen 6: Espurr/Meowstic, Litten/Pyroar
Gen 7: Alolan Meowth, I guess?
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>>29285066
*They're natural.
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>>29285074
marshadow?
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>>29285074
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>>29285074
Marshadow or Magearna probably
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>>29285074
Are you an idiot or did you forget Marshadow.
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>>29285082
What about dogs. Growlithe/Arcanine in gen 1, Snubbull/Granbull and Houndoom/Houndour in 2, Poochyena/Mightyena in gen 3, Riolu and Lucario in 4, literally my mom's dog in gen 5, Furfrou in 6
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>>29284670
>Sludge and eggs are at least natural seeming

I like all objectmons from all generations, no exceptions, but don't come to me with this bullshit about natural seeming eggs. Is like you're implying an egg and sludge based pokemon on later gens wouldn't literally be the same as they would in earlier gens, that being the object + eyes and mouth, and yet somehow gear and ice cream + eyes and mouth are not natural seeming.

I bet you could also say that bellsprout is at least natural seeming, while bounsweet is just a fruit with eyes. The fuck.
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We need more bears
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Martial arts pokemon?
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>>29284833
>>29284843

Eggs are at least a natural part of the world. They eggsist in that form (without the eyes/mouth) in nature... They're not made with intention, they're just made. Do you seriously not know what an egg is?

Plus there's some precedent to suggest that eggs could be considered living in that there is a living organism inside the egg, that in some animal groups can respond to the outside world by moving or adjusting hatching time.

>>29285284
Gears and icecream and chandliers are made by a sentient organism with the pre-meditated intention of fulfilling a purpose. They do not occur in nature. Sludge and eggs eggsist in nature without premeditated function.

I'm not complaining that the gear/icecream/chandelier has eyes. I just think it's out of place, because pokemon are supposed to be the non-human natural part of their world. In some instances it actually does work to some degree, like Chandelure - where a ghost possesses a chandelier - but how the fuck could an icecream cone or a gear ever be considered part of the living world?

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You guys are just butthurt 15yr olds who feel like older players are hating on shitty new design concepts because they're not Charizard, when really it's because they're so far removed from nature they might as well be digimon - honestly why not just have a pokemon that's an actual mailbox, or an actual window, or an actual driveway?
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>>29285284
And a sludge - based mon in later gens would not be the same thing as a sludge based mon in earlier gens. You can confirm this by looking at alola variant Grimer/Muk. I'm not saying I dislike those designs (because they reflect their concept well), but for the most part I dislike designs with tons of patterning, especially stylized patterning - like the image of flames on a fire pokemon, that's dumb (yes I hated Magmar and Electabuzz).
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>>29285914
>pokemon are supposed to be the non-human natural part of their world
lol no
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>>29283595
>racoons are rodents
everytime
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>>29286154
I also hated Mr. Mime.

But seriously? Come on, you're that dumb?... a minority of examples is not how to set a conceptual standard. Do you also believe that vaccines cause autism and that christianity is a terrorist religion?
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>>29285307
Can't wait to use the new one.
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>>29286261
>Keeps getting proven wrong
>"It's the examples that are wrong, not me!"

Anon just stop, no one cares.
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>>29285074
>Forgetting Diancie
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>>29284670
Magnemite is just an alarm clock with magnets.
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>>29285082
Sneasel, Espeon and Umbreon are cats.
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>>29286478
Sneasel is a weasel.

Espeon and Umbreon are dogs.
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>>29283595
I love the route 1 "rodents"
I wish they weren't mostly so useless late game.
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>>29285859
>Conkledurr
>Martial arts
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>>29286325
Yandere mon, best mon
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>>29286325
That a red panda mon
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>>29286325
For real though, I agree with the Ursarig. That design makes me so upsetti.
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>>29286325

>>Dat niggahs ah fightin' type yo!
>>Run mookay run!
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>>29286420
>proven wrong
>subjective material

But if you deny the idea that pokemon are supposed to be the non-human natural component of that universe (and thus that non-organic designs are out of place) just look at the concept of pokemon: based on the hobby of insect collecting, and Pokemon are given "species," a biological concept.

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I am objectively correct that non-organic designs are out of place.

Stay mad.
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>>29286521
Not this shit again
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>>29286755
There are some martial arts that use sticks as weapons.
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>>29287287
Sneasel is literally only a few letters away from weasel.

Is Eevee a cat? No, its a little fox dog thing. Its not a cat. In the games, the pokemon that became the 3 legendary dogs were Jolteon, Vaporeon, and Flareon. Dogs.
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>>29286521
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>>29287361
>using the name as prove of anything
>use a game theory as prove of anything
Eeveelutions are fennecs with cats faces but Espeon and Umbreon are just literal cats. Nekomata and black cat to be precise.
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>>29287177
>Cannons, Spoons, Shackles, Boxing gloves
Please tell me more about the vegan naturalness of the pokemon universe, anon.
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>>29287437
Sneasel's dex entry says it climbs up trees to steal pidgey eggs, thats exactly what weasels do in real life.

And yes, I will agree that Eevees are foxes. But technically foxes are still canids.
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Archetypes you mean?
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>>29284968
Pseudo legends, yes. Already mentioned.
Though gibels were actually decently early, just in a very secluded spot and rare.
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>>29287361
>the pokemon that became the 3 legendary dogs were Jolteon, Vaporeon, and Flareon. Dogs.
>dogs

Pls not this shit again.
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>>29283595
The lack of delelele-whoop is disturbing.
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>>29287490
Cats also do that. And Espeon and Umbreon are no longer foxes.
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>>29284584
Zygarde is the trio master in gen 7.
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>>29284670
>>29284670
There's nothing organic about it and that's not a bad thing. Stop being delusional
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>>29287481
The gloves are his hands. Just like Strongbad.
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>>29287481
Those are present in the pokemon world, true but imo, and objectively (based on the concept of pokemon) they are out of place, and shitty design components...

How do you keep missing this point?
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>>29287481
>shackles
Huh?
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>>29283320
>Like how (almost) every gen there's always an electric rodent pokemon, a badass insect pokemon, a girly flower pokemon, a ugly pokemon that turns powerful... etc
This is the problem with nips. They are afraid of innovation and value so high their seniors no matter how shit they are at work
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>>29284749
Neither are rabbits, which people probably forget because they used to be considered rodents.
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>>29287678
Primeape
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>>29285914
Magnets and poke balls are made by a sentient organism with the pre-meditated intention of fulfilling a purpose. They do not occur in nature. You contradict yourself all over the place
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>>29287658
Things cannot simultaneously be ubiquitous to a world and also out of place in that world. Inorganic things in Pokémon are very common, and so inorganic things in Pokemon cannot be out of place.
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>>29287709
Oh yeaaaaah. Neat.
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>>29286325
>all the bear Pokemon are weak to this thing
Pretty funny. Him and Pangoro should be pals.
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>>29286781
That's not where the mouth is supposed to open
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>>29285859
What the shit is that background?
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>>29287647
You clearly know nothing about design.

>rounded/smooth shape
>mostly neutral color palette
These are two of the strongest visual "naturifiers", for lack of a better noun. Obviously there are exceptions in nature, but, again the exceptions don't make the rule. And obviously there are exceptions in the pokemon world, too, like Rhydon. But both Rhino's and rocks have prominent edges as integral parts of their shape - so it works out.

Why are you all so mad?
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>>29287658
>Objectively

Kill yourself you waste of space.
Your shitty interpretation isn't a fact
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>>29287177
not really

they were always in place
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>>29287361
>In the games, the pokemon that became the 3 legendary dogs were Jolteon, Vaporeon, and Flareon
Never explicitly stated, and explicitly proven wrong in Generations.

Nice disproven headcanon nerd.
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larvae/cocoon/bamf
GenI
>caterpie
>weedle
GenII
>out of place (same with fossils)
GenIII
>Wurmple
GenIV
>Burmy
GenV
>Sewaddle
>Venipede
GenVI
>Scatterbug
>Grubbin
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>>29287740
>out-of-place traits are ubiquitous to pokemon

Traits can be ubiquitous to the design of a designed world, but out of place in the context of the concept.

Holy shit you are all so dense. This is going nowhere. Peace out nigga's, this is like I'm having a discussion with Donald Trump.
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>>29287811
Says LITERALLY in the game they were.

>Some korean studio with free range over a 3 minute per episode pokemon anime deciding what is and isnt canon

Ok.
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>>29287762
Maybe he's just a pink humanoid that likes wearing body parts from other animals/mons.
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>>29287658
The concept of Pokemon is monsters that fit in your Pocket/on your person. Anything more is what you have tried to force it to be and not anything that has ever been stated.
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>>29287847
Source me
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>>29287177
Pokemon are based on yokai. They are even explicitly stated to be monsters.
Tsukumogami exist as a concept. Some pokemon like banette are in fact stated to be such.
Ergo, I am objectively correct in saying you're wrong, they instead fit perfectly fine.
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>>29287843
>Grubbin
>Gen VI
Are there seriously still Gen 6.5 fags?
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>>29287847
Find me the game text that says it.
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>>29287847
>Says LITERALLY in the game they were.
Calling your obviously false bluff.
Sauce or go home.
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>>29287938
It's a sequel. It's Z.5. Which is why zygarde will be story centric.
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>>29284670
>how genwunners defend their beloved kanto

face it, each generation has gudmon and shitmon.
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>>29287938
no i just forgot to type "GenVII"
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>>29287966
>>29287950
>>29287901
confirmed
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>>29288090
This is not a serious post.
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>>29287853
like this...?
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>>29287760
even though pangoro is weak to him too..?
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>>29288077
Well yea, obv.
There are certain mon that I like about each gen. But the ratio of good:shit gets smaller with each new gen.

Okay, now i'm peacin' out.
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>>29288186
Yeah, but at least he's also part fighting so he can defend himself.
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>>29288191
That depends entirely what you like. Which should be obvious, yet every thread seems to turn into this stupid circular argument. Even though it's technically against the rules too.
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>>29288090
Here's your (you)
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>>29288444
thanks
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wow this thread consisted of 2 retarded arguments that ended super anti-climactically
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>>29283595
Gen 5 and 7 have best bugs
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I always appreciated the theory that Pokemon are basically pure energy that congeal into shapes based on thought. Not at a whim, but like, before there was technology, all the people and animals were thinking about natural stuff, and those thoughts congealed some Poke-energy into living beings resembling those things. Then technology became more prevalent, and someone's thoughts about magnets congealed into Magnemite, and some kid's desire for ice cream made Vanillish, and some dude spent forever looking for his lost keys and made Klefki.
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>>29288605
2 retards per thread is probably on the low side considering /vp/ autism
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>>29288605
Welcome to /vp/. Better yet welcome to any 4chan board post-cancer infection.
Actually, are there any boards it hasn't metastisize to yet? Have we hit full stage-4, not long for this world?
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>>29283320
Cute but weak mon that only evolves once (buneary, skitty, eevee, teddiursa, minccino, swirlix...)
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>>29288090
How do people NOT believe this. We know for a fact they were pokemon that died and were reincarnated. Why would they be anything else?

Sure it's never explicitly stated, but that would take the mystery out of the story.

Do you think the dead pokemon were another species? Or are you just against all unconfirmed theory making?
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>>29285914
>Gears and icecream and chandliers are made by a sentient organism with the pre-meditated intention of fulfilling a purpose. They do not occur in nature
>Somehow, this is supposedly deffending "real pokemon"

what is porygon
what is voltorb
what is magnemite/magneton
what is muk
>pokemon are supposed to be non-human natural part of the world
>what is mr mime
>what is jinx
>what is hitmonchan
>what is alakazam (gee, so natural)
>what is machamp

but how the fuck could an icecream cone or a gear ever be considered part of the living world?
>see, magearna OR magnetone, its the same anyways.

your logic is very flawed, you just want 90's pokemon to be still in
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>>29288525
I've been curious, do you all have some kind of quota you have to meet or do you do this on a whim and get some kind of banal gratification from it?
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>>29290248
>Do you think the dead pokemon were another species
In generations their silhouettes look like the three beasts minus all their decorations i.e. the head crystal and streamers, etc.
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>>29283384
I refer to them a legendary pixies. We seem to get one per gen with the same body structure. So far they're Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Manaphy, Victini, Hoopa, and pic related. Shaymin, Diancie, and Magearna don't seem to quite fit this body structure theme.
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Oops forgot pic
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>>29285233

Those are primary hyenas.

Electrike and Manectric are Gen 3's dogmons.
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>>29283595
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>>29286755
>>29287346
Eskrima/Kali. I always thought Conkeldurr drew inspiration from this somehow
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>>29285859
>Martial arts pokemon?
As much as I want to, they aren't as consistent a pattern as the other established archetypes.

I mean are we looking at the duos? Because only Gens 1 and 5 have those and the hitmons already broke it on Gen 2 with Hitmontop and Tyrogue.

The 3-stagers? Machamp and Conkeldurr have no peers unless you count the starters, which are a league of their own.

Gallade is an offshoot and has no counterpart.

The 2 stagers share no discernible pattern in terms of stats, areas/point of the game where they are found, etc.
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>>29283595
>Burmy regional bug

I thought Kricketot is? Isn't it immediately after Empoleon in the dex after all?
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>>29292255
>tfw probably wont ever get another Machamp nor Conkeldurr in future gens
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