i'm surprised i haven't seen anybody discussing

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>>29258940

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>>29259006

>>29258940
popplio's move (aurora veil) sounds significantly better than the other two starters'

though i kinda get the impression kaphotics saw the effect of aurora veil and presumed it halved damage like reflect/light screen, when it might actually be a weaker effect to compensate for blocking both

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>>29259042
about 100 new moves total

>>29259006
hopefully it's an ice move

>>29259042
What move doesn't produce sound?

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>>29259042
Is this move confirmed to be already? If not, Throat Chop perhaps.

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>>29258940
>XXX

>>29259042
sound type incoming

>>29259192
I think it's referring to moves that are also blocked by Soundproof

>>29259192
Those that aren't blocked by soundproof

>>29259172
Some people are saying that it's Poopmaid's signature move.

>>29259006
> physical and special attacks
> implying there are any other attacks

Why must grass keep getting shafted so hard, holy shit.
If Archowl gets some retarded meme ability like Sniper and keen eye. I'll kill myself.
How do these fucks justify giving poppmaid dual screen in one move while giving Archowl this shit

>>29259006
I fucking hate this. Hopefully it's not affected by Light Clay

>>29258940
Damn, they really wante to nerf priority moves this gen.

>>29259313
what if there are?

>>29258940
Wasn't the demo scrubbed out of types, stats and moves? How come those moves in particular weren't scrubbed?

>>29258940
>>29259393
Except people won't actually use it because it only lasts five turns, sounds like only Psychic-types get it, mons generally don't have the moveslot, and priority users have other things to do meanwhile

>>29258940
Where'd you get the moves OP?

>>29259214
Kommo-o is said to use uppercuts to finish off its opponents, its probably sky uppercut

>>29259371
STALL WINS AGAIN

>>29259440
the pink Tapu is going to get it auto setup upon coming in, like Keku does with Electric Terrain

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>>29259431
I dunno. Then I'd be interested in finding out more.

>>29259440
I could see it doing work in double battles.

>>29259264
>>29259267
Oh.
Sorry for being retarded.

>>29259006
Dual Screens in a single move is OP. Please tell me it isn't real.

>>29259440
I can see it used if some very fast mon with prankster in doubles has access to it, otherwise it's only gonna be seen when the Guardian that activates it at the start of the fight is used.

>>29259538
Brick break new meta
Do crits ignore screens btw?

>>29259585
Yeah, they do.

>>29258940
Notice how the topu's are all the same colors as oricorio.
what if the pink one gets an ability that automatically sets psychic terrain, and new ghost/fire terrains are added along with the abilities for the red and purple tapu's?

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>>29259538
don't worry limited distro will surely prevent it from being ubiquitous. it also might not be as strong of an effect.

>>29259446
>>29259439
they are coded into the demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_KfjwyVaoY

there are also some alterred stats for new mons. so we can assume that while these are deflated the jangmo-o line is very physically defensive, physical attackers. rockruff line are fastish physical attackers and yungoos line and pikipek line are also physical attackers. not a huge surprise on any account.

>>29259154
At first I thought this sounded crappy, but then I remembered that crits shoot through defense boosts. Might be a neat way to deal with shit like Calm Mind Clefable.

>>29259439
Maybe...
Maybe the leaks were deliberate?

Does somebody know Ash-Greninja's base stats AFTER Battle Bond kicks in? Thanks

>>29259439
Most likely because something in the demo could theoretically learn them, so they didn't want to create any glitches by removing them from the game.

>>29259670
Hadn't thought of that. I wonder if that will be reason enough to justify it taking up a move slot, though.

>>29259668
>Youngoos has 70 attack and Strong Jaw
Holy fuck. Some players will be in for a surprise if they underestimate it.

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>>29259006
>It's probably Popmaid signature move
>starter so it will have roughly 530 BST
>Popmaid will be water/fairy so 1 immunity and 6 resistances and only 3 weaknesses to not common offensive type
>will probably learn scald because every fucking water type learn it
>will also probably have at least Rest for recovery

Except if Popmaid has a Ledian tier stat distribution, stall has found his new toy.

>>29259717
i'm not sure it does change stats although it has buffed stats to begin with

i think the ash form simply powers up water shuriken

>>29259670
Would be better if it was the next offensive move instead of next turn, that way you could bypass protect/bounce

>>29259717
+50 to atk and spatk +10 speed

>>29259850
Thank you, famalamadingdong

>>29259154
Showderp's gonna have loads of fun with this one, I can already tell.

>>29259668
skill link? fuck yes, that's one of my favorites

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>>29259006
>people bitch about "pooplio" and it's evos
>people say it'll be shit out of spite
>Arguably gets the best ability and typing

Karam is a bitch ain't it.

>>29259963
It's still shit

>>29258940
Lol XD they actually realize Fail Wings and priority generally was a mistake and totally cancerous to the meta:

Two abilities (probably three with tapu auto setter) and a dedicated move. Lullll

>>29260127
you need to be at least 18 to use this site kid

>>29259313
If it were to say "attacks" retards would still be asking "what kind?"

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>>29260127
>use Psychic Terrain
>opponent picks a priority move
>it hits you because priority goes first
>but hey your terrain is up now!

>>29259833
>use Laser focus 2 turns in a row

Just gotta be smarter than your opponent. Predict their defenses. If you know they have a move like that then just wait for them to inevitably use it.

>>29259505
Oh if that's the case then I guess it's okay, at least for the Tapu herself instead of expecting it to last for other teammates.

>>29259519
>fake out immunity

That's nice too

>>29260206
>But it failed!

>>29259313
>status attacks

Burn and poison do damage, and won't be nerfed by this move.

>>29259006
>Dual screens in 1 move
Ooooh, please please please give this to Meganium, it would skyrocket ahead of the other two with just this.

>use Laser Focus
>deal less damage over 2 turns than you'd have dealt using two moves because crits are only 1.5x now
WOW
IT'S LESS THAN FUCKING NOTHING

>>29259670
If Clefable has two Calm Minds up it can surely one shot the gay ass bird

>>29260205
It's designed to work with Pranksters and Tapu Psycho's ability.

>>29260281
>crits are only 1.5x now

source: my asshole

>>29259668
I could see Suicune getting it, which would be instantly broken. Articuno would benefit too, and maybe Lapras

>>29260341
It's been that since gen 6.

>>29260341
>In Generations II-V, a critical hit deals 2 times the damage a move would otherwise do. In Generation VI, a critical hit deals 1.5 times a move's normal damage.
Unless they unnerf crit damage, then enjoy less damaging but more common crits because of all the fuckery they did with crit levels.

And shoot through defence bonuses.
And through screens.
Maybe through a certain veil too?

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>>29260406
Meant to reply to >>29260281

>>29260282
We don't really know if these attacks have anything to do with the starters. Psychic Terrain sure as hell doesn't.

>>29259328
Popmaid is GameFreak new waifumon

Any new fairy moves? Fairy type desperately needs more moves to distribute better.

Don't forget Thunder Wave's accuracy got nerfed to 90% and paralysis now reduces speed by 50%

>>29259806
The stat distribution could very well give 95/95/110 bulk
Add Serene Grace and Recover for a "Gamefreak can't be this... oh fuck" moment

>>29259850
>>29259904
It's actually 51 to Attack. +50 base Attack would be 131 Attack when its 132.

>>29261214
>speed cut goes from 25% to only 50%
Nowhere nearly as crippling as before, I'm not sure if it's still worth investing in TWave. I wonder if part of the reason for this nerf is the addition of Shock Spikes or something paralysing on entry.

>>29262461
probably,since we have more new moves than pokemon

>>29262506
A big part of that is because about half of the SM Pokemon have signature moves.

>>29259668
>that attack stat on Yungoos
I can't wait to use Gumshoos in the lower tiers now. Especially with Strong Jaw Hyper Fang.

>>29260127
Or it could be against Prankster shenanigans and Fake out. Just a thought.

Does Throat Chop deal damage, or is it just a status move like the other two?

>>29259328
Maybe it'll get two like Greninja.

Maybe it'll get Thousand Arrows.