>mimikyu, pyukumyuku, minior, oricoco, and komala are all single stage
>no fossils
>the last alolan forms are utter garbage
>FOUR 3 stage pokemon (not including starters)
>new pokemon count is even LESS than gen 6
>only 18 alolan forms
I'm not sure if I can forgive this, even if gen 7 does have a great story this is still an incredibly underwheleming amount of new pokemon. I really fucking hope that this is only what gf didn't scrape from the demo because I'm disappointed as fuck.
>>29246573
Does it actually matter?
>>29246573
>actually thought Oricorio and Komala would evolve
>>29246573
>X and Y introduced 72 Pokémon
>We just learned last night that Sun and Moon have 81 new Pokémon
>LESS than gen 6
boy you're something special.
>>29246573
>mimikyu is single stage
It's already too perfect, what would you add?
>>29246573
>>mimikyu, pyukumyuku, minior, oricoco
It was fucking obvious they were going to be single stage.
I give you credit to Komala though, I honestly thought it was going to be two staged.
>>29246688
A chance to not go to PU
>implying this gen isn't 6.5
>>29246736
You mean like Klefki? :^)
>>29246678
>81
Where exactly did you get this number?
>>29246688
I wanted it to have a happiness evolution where it gets rid of the Pikachu costume. It would have been touching in a narrative sense.
>>29246602
At this point, nothing matters anymore. Please kill me.
>>29246736
Great type, gets a free turn, and I can see it getting an annoying moveset.
>>29246736
Hopefully the fairy typing and a free substitute let it be UU.
>>29246792
They were all revealed by dataminers. I counted them.
>>29246792
Did you not learn to count in kindergarten yet?
>>29246678
All these single staged mons make it look smaller than it is desu.
>>29246736
>PU
But first, we need to talk about Parallel Universes
>>29246573
>FOUR 3 stage pokemon
That hurt
>>29246792
>>29246573
>even if gen 7 does have a great story
Judging by the records and the previews, the probability of that is extremely low.
>>29246736
Pokémon are not primarily designed for competitive viability. They are designed for in-game use first and foremost, that much should be clear judging by virtually any generation. It's a clear gimmick-mon.
>>29246694
I dunno. I really thought minior would have a moonstone evo when it was revealed.
Maybe there'll be more besides what we found?
I can hope, can't I?
>>29246865
Again, where did 81 come from? That image contains 80. And 7 of them are just alternate forms which is why I counted 73.
>>29246573
Remember, GF took an extra year and this is what they shat out
>>29246573
Mimikyu is on there twice
And how the fuck do you get to 81 there anyway?
I see 79
>>29246688
A friendship-based evolution where it learns to love itself for what it is instead of trying to be something it's not.
>>29247112
8 columns, 10 rows. There's 80 (and they didn't even include alternate minior forms)
>>29247112
>>29246865
Mant this post. Also I forgot the Minior thing.
So 78. 78 new pokémon in SM. Gen 6 had 72 but had the excuse of being the first 3D gen
Quality over quantity, IMO.
Given a gen like 2 or 4, where there were a ton of pokemon and so, so many of them were bad design-wise, I'd take a gen 6 or 7-esque gen any day. I love, percent-wise, many more of the gen 6 and 7 pokemon despite the fact that there are fewer of them.Gen 5 is an exception to this, but I'm also absolutely biased towards gen 5
>>29246573
Your priorities of meeting a certain quota of Pokemon have officially diverged from their priorities. If they wanted to pump out tons of new Pokemon to hit a certain milestone like 1000 they would have done so in a heartbeat.
>>29247179
Oricorio, Lycanroc, Wishiwashi. 73.
>>29246688
>what would you add?
Alternate costumes
>>29246865
For some reason I felt like the alola dex is feeling really small, so I compared it.
Let's look at good final stage evolutions/single mons
Robinhoot
Luchalitten
Toucan
Vikavolt
Yeticrab
Ribombee
Sunlycanroc
Wishiwashi
Alienspider
Dr. Zaius
Rugbymonkey
Wimpodevolution
Tortunator
Solgaleo
Lunala
Marshadow
That's 16
But even though gen 6 had LESS new pokémon, it had
Greninja
Talonflame
Gogoat
Pangoro
Aegislash
Malamar
Dragalge
Clawitzer
Tyrantrum
Hawlucha
Trevenant
Noivern
Xerneas
That's 13
Strange.
It still "feels" empty for some reason even though I just clearly found out that for me personally I like even more "final" mons in alola
>>29246792
>>29247084
>>29247112
It's 81 including the Ultra Beasts and 73 without them. Either way that's more than XY.
>inb4 le ultra beasts aren't pokemon maymay
>inb4 le megas and alternate forms are new pokemon maymay
>>29247084
>73
+8 Ultra Beasts
>>29247407
Well even if ultra beasts are pokémon, I can safely say I'm really disappointed in them.
UB-01 and UB-02 Mosquito are fine, even ub-02 beauty is "okay".
I thought they'd stick to that kind of design. But the leaked UBs today are fucking horrendous, they look like someone was blindfolded, scribbled around in mspaint and then had to make a pokemon out of the result.
>>29247194
But Gen 5 designs are a miserable copy paste of Gen 1 Pokemon
>>29247473
stop exaggerating
>>29246573
>pyukumyuku, minior, oricoco, and komala are all single stage
>pyukumuku
Thank god.
>>29247473
>Miserable copypaste
Counterpart, yes. Copy, no.
>>29247581
I expected it with the first three, but komala surprises me
>>29247396
Some psychological bias going on due to former expectations perhaps
It also might be the lack of fossils. It feels incomplete to me too.
>>29247646
One thing I realized is that gen 7 has rather few full evolution lines. So many with just two stages or just single stage.
>>29247646
>>29247396
>>29247697
The abundance of single stages is probably to psychologically fool you into thinking that you are getting *more* by having more lines.
I'd argue more effort was put into these designs and mons than the giant army of nothing that was Gen 2 and 4's faceless mobs.
>>29247697
2 stages is a full evolution line. IIRC there are more 2 stages then there are 3 stages.
>>29247743
My thoughts exactly.
There are less, but design-wise, more are better.
how the fuck do you know mimikyu, pyukumyuku, minior, oricoco, and komala are all single stage it's just a demo goddamn it /vp/ you always do this you pessimistic dickheads
>>29246573
>theres more gen 1 pokemon in the game than actual new gen 7 designs
>>29246694
This, I don't see why people expected these to evolve. They were obviously one stage gimmicky mons.
Before someone brings up Wimpod, his gimmick is detrimental to the pokémon, do an evolution was more likely.
>>29246804
>X used Multi-attack move!
>Mimikyu's disguise busted!
>proceed to destroy Mimikyu
straight to PU
I wish they hadn't frontloaded so much.
Is that the correct term for what they did?
It's like they actually managed to almost only show the good stuff in trailers so far. I have SO many pokémon (and UBs) we found through the datamining today.
So today I'm just feeling really disappointed. All of today's alola formed were 100% shit too, I actually want to punch whoever made those.
Also it angers me that we now know there are no alola formes for much better mons such as the growlithe line. But no, we need dugtrio with a wig.
>>29247886
*hate
>>29247154
Too gay.
The designs aren't even good, most of them look either retarded or waifubait, and then there's the Ultra Beasts, all of which don't even look like Pokemon, this gen fucking sucks.
>>29246573
wtf i hate Alola now
>>29248053
>all of which don't even look like Pokemon
Opinion discarded
If the alola formes and remaining UBs that were leaked today had been good I would be happy now.
But they were 100% shit.
>>29248053
>all of which don't even look like Pokemon
Wow gee what do you think they're for hm
>>29248053
Is that the full regional dex?
>>29248053
All those Kanto mons should've gotten Alola forms.
>>29248187
Yes. Over half of it is genwun
>>29246573
Komala is the one I'm sad about
So gen 8 will have regional variants of gen 2 pokémon, then?
>>29246750
And Gen 6 was a a beta SM.
And Gen 5 was just a glorified expansion pack.
WE HAVEN'T HAD A PROPER GEN SINCE 4, which was also the last time we had decent starters all around.
HGSS was the real end. Everything went full circle and the dex capped off with the creator of the universe. All regions could be played on the old DS.
>>29248238
Just like how gen 7 had Megas for Johto starters
>>29246573
MEGAS AREN'T NEW POKEMON, NEITHER ALOLA FORMS, FUCK YOU ALL
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>29248269
I just want them to not ignore the other gens
I was hoping Wailord would get love in Alola
It would've been perfect. There's even a huge wailord boat you can take. And it's hawaii and shit.
I wanted a wailord BST buff, a mega wailord, or an alolan wailord JUST SOMETHING BUT NO
WHY ALL THE GENWUN PANDERING
>>29246573
>FOUR 3 stage pokemon (not including starters)
Five, actually. Counting Solgaleo/Lunala's 2 pre-evos
>>29248302
They are for GF. Tough luck, kid.
>>29247422
I really doubt those will be playable. Remember Gen 5 studiomons?
GF has fucking ADHD with features, they'll add stuff people really like then either take it out or completely forget about it by the time the next game comes out.
>>29248115
Oh boy, this sure does look like a Pokemon to me!
>>29248264
>Gen 5 was just a glorified expansion pack.
>HGSS shilling
>>29248339
They will be.
>Actual non-black Shinies
>In the regional dex
>Riddler had them in his dex mixed in with Pokemon
>Several leakers called them hypersppace Pokemon
>>29248365
But anon, it does. It's in a Pokemon game. Also
>Literal trans-dimensional aliens
>Supposed to look like common pokemon
>>29248325
Is... is THAT what those are?
Jesus fuck just kill me now
>Goodra>Kommo-o
>Florges/Tsareena
>Talonflame/Toucan
>Vivivlion/Vikavolt
>Aegislash SolLun
>>29248390
I REALLY want them to be playable but something in me is saying it wont and to be skeptical for this one detail. And yes i made sure to take off my dildo
These UBs are awful
The mosquito is the only cool one
The rest is random shapes thrown together
>>29248422
They're adorable!
>>29246573
>fossiles in the youngest region of the earth
wew
>>29246608
Only retards thought oricoro would evolve.
Komala is a surprise t.b.h.
>>29248339
okay then think about this. why would they make UB enforcer and UB Beauty game exclusive to begin with?
>>29248442
The green one is interesting, I like the giant crab, and the only real bad ones are the super edgy one, and the white haired edgy one.
>>29248489
I like them but I feel completely different about the flagship pokemon, I don't like them at all.
I hope eviolite makes up for this.
>>29248523
A crab?
I can't even tell what it is
>>29248387
It was and you know it.
>Same handheld
>Almost no graphical upgrades, the sprites for old Pokemon are ripped straight out of DP
>No core gameplay changes at all unless you count more ability options
>Biggest "features" are more Pokemon and story
>>29248492
>Tyrannosaurus in France
wew
>>29246736
Hopefully it get's that Klefki and Sableye treatment.
>>29246573
This is what we'll never have
I am a monster for making these
>>29249231
>I am a monster
Damn right, those are too good. Thanks for pouring more salt in the wound, even if you didn't mean it.
>>29249231
>Narcalyptus
Oh my god. That name and design are brilliant. I'm actually upset it isn't real, and I didn't give a fuck about Komoala.
>>29249231
narkalyptus is amazing, the rest are sort of unnecessary.
Just like in real life, they ran out of fossils to dig up.
>>29250097
>ran out of fossils to dig up.
what? That's not a thing.
>>29248718
Ignorance in this post aside, Gen 5 was still leagues better than Gen 4.
>>29246573
Quality>>>quantity.
Gen 5 had the most but around 60 were good. I love this gen mainly because it feels fresh. I could give a shit if they aren't full 3 stage evolutions but geez you all just act petty when Nintendo does stuff
>>29246694
Which one is komala again?
>>29248053
So you are saying that we can't create new Pokémon? Who are you? The person making the god damn game? Why don't you go to Gamefreak and work for them if you don't like the designs so much then?
>>29247531
>>29247594
This. What is with this 'needlessly slag off gen5' meme?
>>29247886
This. They selectively released stuff to make us think it was better than it is. Basically the only good release was wimpods evo and it was kinda obvious that it'd be the magikarp/feebas of the gen.
>>29248053
Their selection of gen 3/4/5 mons is so fucking bad.
>>29249231
>pyukumurp
>Nankalyptus
You should work in GFs naming dept anon
>>29251062
*Pyukumupp (pyukumuku + "put 'em up")
*Narcalyptus (narcoleptic + eucalyptus)
>>29251284
Yeah i did get them kek, it was a compliment
>>29251396
Oh, I figured my handwriting was bad so they weren't clear. Glad you like them though, thank you!