>Gen 5 autists shitting the bed >"W-waah why won't

The suggestion that Corbyn was furiously trying to get the demo this morning really warms my heart

>>29236769
>Metacritic

Go back.

>>29236769
>Gen 6 had more consistently good designs, but still.

Completely disagree, Gen 6 was boring and forgettable for the most part (though Noivern my GOAT is there so I can't hate it)

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>>29236769
>my opinion is fact
Whoa...

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>>29236930
>Dragalge, Malamar, Aegislash, Clawitzer, Tyrantrum, Hawlucha, Trevenant, Noivern, Talonflame, Gogoat, Meowstic, Gourgeist, Goodra, Greninja

>Boring and forgettable
lmao

But gen 7s pokedex is small and dogshit

>>29236769
The people who prefer Diamond and Pearl over Platinum prefer X and Y

Let that sink in

>>29236769
>Outside of your little hugbox on /vp/, gen 5 is universally agreed as being the worst gen in Pokemon
No it's not

You're thinking of gen 4, lad

>>29236769
Hey, make a distinction between BW and BW2. BW2 were considerably better due to the regional dex reintroducing tons of old mons and Unova not feeling as linear as a literal straight line like in BW. Also you werent' harassed by Team Plasma/Cheren and Bianca every two steps in BW2, so it was an improvement in pacing too.

>>29237117
>only 14 pokemon

>>29236975
Still worse than XY, which according to contrarians like you, are considered the worst games evar

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>>29237306
That was including their entire lines too.

Better than gen 5 which only has 5 good looking pokemon despite having over twice the dex size.

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>>29236769
>shitting on pokemon designs
A reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have

>>29237276
No, he's right, Gen 4 at least had Platinum to save it, and HGSS is nearly unanimously agreed to be the fanbase's favorite game

>>29236769
Honestly can we prove why Gen 5's Pokédex were so bad? It had tons of good Pokemon. All I've ever seen is the bashing of the same 5-10 evolutionary lines but that apparently more than represents 150+ Pokemon.

Also less new Pokemon=/=better quality. Not saying the quality is bad either, but all it means is, less new Pokemon. Less variety. Did you notice that Alola literally has no original ice types and only 1 Dark type(Luchalitten)?

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>>29237375
You seem to be upset :)

nice b8 m8. i wish i was as good at photoshop as you

>>29236769
Just a reminder the lowest game on metacritic is actually Emerald.

>>29237377
the taste is shit with this one.

At this point hating 90% of Gen 5 is a meme. You can't really despise that many Pokemon and be taken seriously.

>>29237377
Recognize that shit taste fuck off

>>29237443
Not really, couldn't give less than a damn about Gen 3

>>29237413
You should provide venture out of /vp/ once in a while. People don't particularly like those two games because of the excessive amount of padding and gimmicks although they are liked more than DP it's not really held in particularly high regard.

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>>29237437
>Did you notice that Alola literally has no original ice types and only 1 Dark type(Luchalitten)?

No, I've already pointed out in another thread that it's a bit too heavy on grass and water types and short on other types.

Also nobody is saying more = bad, I'm saying gen 5 had a lot and they were all mostly shit besides 5 pokemon.

Gen 1 did it right with its huge dex which consisted of almost exclusively great designs, minus a few shitmons.

>>29237518
>>29237534
>Unova apologists shitting the bed.
Pottery.
Your meme gen is well known for having a god awful dex.

>B-but muh scrafty
>Muh crookodile
>Muh hydreigon

What are you, 12? Those designs are shit.

>>29237377
Gen 6 and 5 both have good designs stop causing genwars you fucking faggots.

>>29237377
Galvantula, Druddigon, Cofagrigas, Mandibuzz, hydreigon and garbador are pretty good. so are the first two in Krookadile's line.

>>29237382
Did more Sun/Moon pokemon leak? These are better designed than that last batch, at least.

>>29237382
At least they're based on actual folk tales and myths. Pokemon could be literally anything and yet they choose to make 3 foxes, 4 seals, 5 dogs, 6 cats, and a dozen fucking butterflies/moths.

>>29237608
>he says this as he likes the literal axe dragon

>>29237608
But why are Gen 5's Pokemon shit. You have no basis or legit criticism besides "they're shit". It has dozens of great lines but why are they so bad?
>Those designs are shit
Why? What separates them from other good designs that? What about liking them stoops you to the age of a preteen? If I told you I like Dragonite or Flygon, how is that good taste compared to liking Hydreigon?

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>>29237695
It's one of the few dragons I actually like, so at least gen 5 has that going for it :^)
At least it's not literal reddit-tier shit like scrafty

>>29237755
I know what the argument is! They never played the game.

>>29237773
Is your plan to do this once a month? I hope you know I'm autistic enough to remeber exact images like this one

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>>29237755
Simple. They are drawn to look childish, overly cute and "derpy".
The drastic art style change is readily apparent and solidifies most of them as shit.

On my list I have Volcarona marked as something I like, and make no mistake I like it a lot, it's an excellently designed pokemon which is unfortunately stuck in a shit gen, but why is it great? Because it looks somewhat realistic. It has all the features of the thing it was created after and a lot of attention to detail.

The rest of the shit? They don't have that. They have dumb as fuck faces and busy designs that aren't coherent in the slightest.

>>29237934
But SM are probably the most cartoony gen to date outside of the might not even be catchable Ultra Beasts.

>>29237773
Man, I'm so angry.
Why don't 2hu shitposters stay in their /jp/ containment board?

You know what, you're cherry-picking, contrarian attitude about gen 5 is one of the most cancerous attitudes to this board I've seen. I can't believe the autism you radiate with every post about actually HATING a Pokemon design. Like you're the end all be all judge of how a Pokemon should look. Go back to /jp/ can bait other on how some 2hu looks. I just want you off this board.

I wish genwarring was banned on sight.

When will /vp/ have real mods?

>>29237934
>Hydreigon is derpy looking but dragonite is not

Holy shit, end your life you blind, drooling retard.

>>29237377
>shit opinion confirmed
Not liking Pantslizard line or Icecream bros
Golems or Excadrill or even Cofagrigus.
Not liking Joltik or Ferrothorn or Whimsicott or even Stunfisk or Chandelure.

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>>29237929
No, I stop by here from my other boards every time some new pokemon info comes out, and every time I do I see the same shit. Gen 5 autists crying their eyes out about gamefreak not giving them any attention.

So no, these threads aren't intended to be a regular thing, a bit after the SM fad has died down I'll fuck off until the next games no doubt.

>>29237970
Well that's why I said this gens dex isn't as solid as gen 6's, but there's still a decent amount of non cartoony designs that I can get behind.

A perfect example of a "gen 5-like design" that I hate from this gen though is Alolan Persian.
That's how gen 5 looks in general. Aka shit.

>>29238041
>Hydreigon is derpy looking but dragonite is not
Nice projecting you mad as fuck autist, I never even said I like dragonite.
Spoiler : I don't. It single handedly ruins the Dratini line.

>>29238053
All shit.

>>29238134
Please
Please
Go back to /jp/
I have never seen a single post of gen 5 people crying their eyes out besides the bait you posted.
If you came to /vp/ just to shit on gen 5, you belong on reddit.

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>>29238276
>I have never seen a single post of gen 5 people crying their eyes out besides the bait you posted.

Delusion in its most purest form.
>Please leave our safespace if you want to be negative about the worst gen, we don't tolerate that here.

Tough shit I'm afraid.

>>29237586
Are you sure you don't need to venture outside /vp/? If anything, it's this place that shits on them and most other people love them

>>29237039
gen 5ers believe their opinion is fact more than any other

>>29237276
This

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>>29238347
Ok, post links to the threads of unovababbies crying.
Oh wait, you're too much of a smug cunt to back up your claims.

I can post smug too.

I have a request for OP: Prove to use that Gen 5 truly is as bad as you say by criticizing every Pokemon that you hate. Doesn't have to be long paragraphs, short descriptive sentences are good enough. You also don't have to go by individuals, cover the entire evolutionary line if it makes things easier.

This is something I want, no I DEMAND of you and anyone else who is so convective in their hate of Gen 5. It has the most regional Pokemon, and I want to know what each line you hate is doing wrong for you not even like a quarter of that number.

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>>29238442

>Oh wait, you're too much of a smug cunt to back up your claims.

Half true, the other reason I can't be arsed backing up shit is that I don't want to go through the archives. We had a thread up literally a short while before I posted this that was crying about the dex being small saying that Unova's style was better.

>>29238508
>This little nigga expects me to go through 150 pokemon writing up what I don't like about them

Tip top kek.

Not going to happen.
Post a line you want me to shit on and we'll do it this way.

>>29238442
>I have no arguments the post

The only tears more delicious than a unovabortion's is a denialfag's, and we're already getting enough of that

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>>29238602
I fucking knew it.
I hope you stub your toenail into your foot today.

>>29238602
Victini.

I'm gonna do this by order so be ready.

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>>29238678
Aww your words hurt me, I'll be sure to watch my step though.

>>29238695
Retarded proportions and concept.
Next.

>>29238623
Keep drinking until you drown in it.
If they're not going to give me a proper argument and fling shit everywhere, why would I waste my time when I can do the same, much more efficiently, no less?

Their is no point to this whole thread outside baiting unovababies.

>>29238602
I'll give you 10.
>Stoutland
>Zebstrika
>Excadrill
>Whimsicott
>Lilligant
>Carracosta
>Archeops
>Galvantula
>Chandelure
>Braviary

>>29238741
>concept
What's wrong with its concept?
Anyways, Stoutland line. Yes I'm skipping starters because we've already heard why they're so hated.

>>29238761
There*

I'm so mad I can't even type properly.

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>>29238809

>What's wrong with its concept?
The concept of a pokemon based on victory is fucking retarded.

>Stoutland
Based on the most boring type of dog. Out of all breeds, why would they pick something so dull?
Every other dog pokemon is fine and interesting.

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>>29238870
And stay mad unovacuck, the fact that you will never be pandered brings peace to my soul

>>29238951
Liepard line. Forewarning I'm going to skip Gen 5 Pokemon that are already so vocally hated, like the monkey trio.

>>29238951
What's wrong with the American Pokemon that's based on always winning, like we do

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>>29237443
Imagine being a desperate Hoenn shitter.

>>29238966
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
I'm not mad because of pandering.
I'm happy gen 5 won't have pandering, gen 1 got 4 whole generations of it. So that makes it the objectively worst one.

I'm mad that this thread exists, and still has activity.

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>>29238999
The pink mask-like shit on its face looks tacked on for no reason.
It's feat are cartoony with no effort put into the features.

Persians feat have more detail put into them.

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>>29238951
Why even try and critique all of them?
Because one anon will get minor "satisfaction" out of it? So far your critiques are as bland as the Pokemon you're describing them with.
I can't believe how far you're willing to go with the nonsensical bait.
You don't have a point outside trying to make people who like unova mad, you've made your point, you got me mad. So, what is your point?

>>29236769
I want /v/ermin to leave.

>>29236769

Oh, it's the Gen. 5 hating autist again who needs to post fake Metacritic scores.

>>29239128
Musharna line

>>29237377
>Mienshao
>bad

(You)

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>>29239171
>I can't believe how far you're willing to go with the nonsensical bait.
See, this is how you spot a unova apologist trying to pretend he's not one.

There's no bait here.

Why are you mad anyway? Just leave the thread you autist, lmao.

>>29239289
What can I say? It's design is so bland that I can't even think up what specifically I'm supposed to be criticizing.
I can say this though, Drowzee is a much better take on the whole baku concept.

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>>29239412
No, because this is what you want isn't?
I literally just said I liked unova.
>You don't have a point outside trying to make people who like unova mad, you've made your point, you got me mad.
Did you not read that line you retarded cuck?
And your dodging the point of my question. But what you expect out of some dumb smug poster?
I'm mad because it's what you want. You want to see me angry, it's like your fetish, you want my attention. But now you want someone else, you need more attention, but you can't put the effort into the bait.
No one else but me is dumb enough to reply to you, you're stuck with me. So, what's your point? Or do you want to make me angrier? Call me more buzz words? Or would that give you more unwanted attention from me?

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>>29237377
All of the Pokemon you picked are great, but really nigga?

>Escalavier
>Galvantula
>Gofagrigus
>Lilligant
>Bisharp
>Whimsicott
>Golurk
>Scolipede
>Leavanny
>Chandelure

Are all good/great Pokemon. There are even more good Pokemon to the lesser degree, like Sawsbuck, Excadrill Carracosta, Krookodile and Audino.

Sure, there some that are fucking retarded designs, I'm not denying that. But this gen sure as shit had loats of great Pokemon too. It's like people just remember the worst ones and judge the whole dex based on them. I love the listed Pokemon more than almost anything in gen 6 and 7.

I'm completely opposite to you, there are so many Pokemon I like this gen I could do multiple runs with a completely different team. While in gen 6 and 7 I was struggling to form even one team of 6 Pokemon I genuinely liked. Especially in gen 7 my sixth team slot is completely open because I can for the life of me find one more Pokemon I genuinely like.

Then again, people are praising the shit out of this gen for its quality of Pokemon. This gen has literally only one Pokemon I like as much as I liked my favorite Gen 5 Pokemon. It's Wimpod's evolution. Gen 6 had zero, even though it some Pokemon I liked too. I also hate the shit out of Jangmo-o's evo, I think it's ugly as shit and people are praising it aswell.

So this said, it's apparent that at least my taste clashes hard with the rest of the community. I just can't see it the way the rest does.

I liked how Gen 5 questioned the whole core of the Pokemon franchise: battling. It was really interesting. N's battle theme (not the champion one, just the regular one) is still probably my favorite song in Pokemon, or at least one of them. N's castle felt grand, the battle was awesome and felt meaningful because of the truth/ideals clash. They made gym leaders important to the story as well.

B/W2 Had a lot to explore and the tournaments were fun as shit, especially compared to the pile of shit that is Battle Maison.

>>29239412
Zebstrika line

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>>29239625
>it's like your fetish, you want my attention. But now you want someone else
It's over anon, I'm bored of you now. Just deal with it, you were just a one night stand, get the fuck away from me you clingy gen 5 cuck.

>>29239656
The rest of those mons you listed do nothing for me.
Krookodile is something I can't stand, it looks like some fucking looney tunes shit.

Gen 5 has decent music, that's about all I can agree with you on. The story was just as bland as any others. Sun & Moon however looks like it will have an interesting story purely because of the Ultra Beasts, which are fascinating.

Team plasma as a whole are on the same level as team flare, aka shit.

>>29239732
Can't see anything glaring wrong with it, I just don't like it because it does nothing for me.
We can say this one isn't inherently bad.

>>29240024
Gigalith line

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>>29240099
Alright, you got me there, I actually like Gilgalith.
I probably left it off my list because I always forget about it due to needing to trade for it, which means I'm usually stuck with its shitty Boldore evo.

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>>29240024
I'm still waiting for straight answers from you.
Instead you make really bare-bones criticisms about something no one will care about because it's already out there and happened and the initial shock from 5th gen is long gone.

I just want to know...who hurt you?

Lol, gen 5 has some of the absolute best designs in the series. Kalosperm stay mad.

Reminder that if gen 5 got the recognition it needed then gen 6 wouldn't be so half-assed.

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>>29240287
>I'm still waiting for straight answers from you.
What am I supposed to be answering again?

>>29240426
>Waaah Gamefreak won't listen why aren't they making another BW it's the game I grew up with
Comedy gold.

It brings me so much pleasure knowing that gen 5 bombed so hard that gamefreak does everything they can to hide its existence.

It brings me even more pleasure knowing that I'll have a great time playing through gen 7 while you bitch and moan about it on here.

>>29240272
Swoobat line

>>29240426
Gen 5 was horrible. Added two gimmicky battle types, removed so much shit (Battle Frontier, contests, over 100 Pokemon), had the worst existing metagame.

Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad

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>>29240568
I'm wondering why you're flinging so much shit at gen 5.
Is it because it's an easy target? Is it because of the guaranteed replies and ensured genwar thread?

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>>29240653
The heart shaped nose shit is retarded as fuck.
It looks like somebody stuck some googly eyes on it.
The snaggletooth teeth only add to this retarded look.
The dome-like ear looks idiotic too.

Overall a poor as fuck design which was done much better with the Zubat line, or hell, the Noivern one.

>>29240824
Nope, it's because it's a shit gen that made my interest in Pokemon drop to 0 until X&Y breathed some life back into it by actually having decently designed pokemon.

>>29240353
But also some of the absolute worst, lmao stay mad unovabortion

>>29240998
Excadrill line.

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>>29240998
That answer is basic and uninteresting, I can't believe I wasted my time with.
What's worse is that you get some smug, self endearing satisfaction about this shit.
And then you take a shit on this puke-flavored ice cream by saying XY was better.

>>29241020
So? Nothing's perfect

>>29236769
Dude surely sucks to be you

>>29241263
>this damage control

Well obviously no Gen is gonna be absolutely amazing or absolute shit, but Gen 5 doesn't even come close to either spectrum compared to other gens, this is objective fact

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>>29241165
Nonsensical markings on its body.
The bladed protrusions on it look like plastic toys.

>>29241207
> I can't believe I wasted my time with.
Bye then, bitch.

X&Y is much better than gen 5, not that that's saying much, every gen pulls that off just fine.

>>29241422
Conkeldurr line

>>29239656
Though I liked a lot of the Gen 5 mons, I really hated B/W. I had to force myself to beat it. Most of the early route mons are uninteresting, and by the time you get some better stuff, they take forever to evolve. You're never going to use that Bisharp until the E4 and until then it's going to be near useless going against fully evolved mons. The story felt way too heavyhanded as well. You could tell Plasma were evil right from the get go, I mean they're stealing and kicking pokemon. You get stopped so often for asinine reasons. I still remember the part where Bianca's dad was told off by the gym leader because it felt so awkward and out of place to just give you some lecture while you're walking around doing your thing.

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>>29241559
Over exaggerated veins all over their bodies
Stupid as fuck enormous clown nose that was apparently quite literally put there for no reason.
Oh and their tiny waists make no sense.

>>29237608
Nice job outting yourself as a Genwunner, idiot. Of course you dislike the gens that pander the fuck to gen 1 fanboys and dislike the one that didn't.

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>>29241901
But I like all gens besides gen 5.

>>29241936
Leavanny line. Skipping Seismitoad line and Throh/Sawk because they're also too obvious.

>>29242034
Stop fucking replying to the /jp/ faggot. Just report and hide the thread instead of feeding his (You)'s. You are only wasting your own time since this is exactly what he wants you to do until he gets bored and just goes to jerk off to Touhou doujins instead of actually playing video games.

Gen 5 was pretty bad. Lots of filler pokemon because they didn't want to reuse Gen 1 mons, so you get not-geudode, not-machop, not-hitmons, all looking ugly as sin compared to their original counterparts. Lots of fillermon and shitmons. Very few excepcionally good designs, like Galvantula.

Too many legendaries, it brought in the cancerous genies who ruined the meta.

Linear, terrible region design. There are no shortcuts. It's all a fucking straight line. Not to mention your retarded rivals stopping you every route.

>>29236769
Pretty sure you're 100% retarded

>>29242034
No issues with the pre evos but Leavanny itself looks like fucking Origami or some shit.
The leaf arms it has look flimsy as shit as if they would fall off with nothing more than a light breeze, and since it's primarily a physical attacker its form just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense for how frail it looks.

What the fuck? Lmao this list is retarded. No way in hell shitty ass FR is better than black 2.

>>29242232
What about Lilligant?

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Gen 5 is my favorite gen.
Not the best in everything, but I think it has the best overall package with the least shit that drives me up the fucking wall. Also obviously I like the gen 5 dex a lot, especially its based as fuck bug types.

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>>29240024

I totally disagree with the blandness, again, B/W already challenges the player by questioning the core of the franchise. That alone makes it stick out.

The fact that N beat the league before you was unexpected and the game made it even more memorable by showing the cinematic how N takes the league over, the castle etc. It was grand, just like the climax: the final battle with him where Ideals and Truth clash for the last time. You even get to use legendaries.

There's no way it's ''as bland'' as the other gens because it did so many things differently, it had unexpected twists instead of being the same formula with different graphics. It also made the gym leaders meaningful to the story. Something that past gens didn't do and XY didn't do either.

Not to mention XY was boring as shit because next to no postgame, story was ACTUALLY bland, the same formulatic shit again. Not to mention they made the difficult easier than ever before, even without megas and exp share. It's baffling how you shit on gen 5 while forgiving all the stupid shit gen 6 did.

And finally

>The rest of those mons you listed do nothing for me

Right, I'd love to hear what are your favorite gen 6 and 7 mons then.

>>29242232
Scolipede line.

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>>29242296
>What about Lilligant?
Eh, she's cute, I can't find anything wrong with her design.

>>29242360

>There's no way it's ''as bland'
There is though, because it is bland.

Every gen has a theme in which it follows. Gen 5s was no different or more grand.

>it had unexpected twists
Such as?

The game was incredibly transparent and I can't recall a single "twist" catching me off guard.

>It's baffling how you shit on gen 5 while forgiving all the stupid shit gen 6 did.

Gen 6 had a good dex. Pokemon is first and foremost a monster raising game. The entire point of the games is lost of the dex is as dogshit as gen 5's.

And don't give me that difficulty crap, I breezed through both gen 5 games on my usual blind nuzlocke I do the first time I play any pokemon game.
The difficulty is piss easy in gen 5.

Sounds to me that if you were getting surprised by its baby tier story and struggling to beat it that it must have been your first pokemon game growing up or some shit.

>Right, I'd love to hear what are your favorite gen 6 and 7 mons then.
Dragalge, Malamar, Clawitzer, Tyrantrum, Trevenant, Zygarde, Noivern to name a few, I could literally name almost all the dex for gen 6.

In gen 7, Wishiwashi (School form), Wimpods evo, Tsareena, Lurantis, the spider thing, all of the Ultrea Beasts, and Vikavolt to name a few.

>>29242411
Eyes ruin it for me, the rest of the design is okay. Lack of other facial details is also a negative.
If the eyes were drew differently the design would be much better.

>>29237306
So 1/5th of the pokedex? that's if you don't include any Pre evos

report the avatarfaggot

>>29243840
Why would you fucking bumb this

>>29236769
For fuck sake we are sick of Kanto shit just give us a fucking game with only new mons in the main game then give us the old mons at the postgame like Unova did IM SO FUCKING SICK OF IT SO FUCKING SICK OF ALL THIS OLD MON GARBAGE BEING IN THE MAIN GAME FUCK.

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>>29243966
>We
GF doesn't give the slightest shit about you worthless cunts. Hence why you're sat crying in these threads for years while I get everything I want in a pokemon game.

Tip top kek tbqhwy.

>>29236769

Reminder to not reply to Bait Posting.

BW (not BW2) are probably the most balanced games from a gameplay perspective. Linear, sure, but I find replaying them quite enjoyable. And somehow, the inclusion of just Unova Pokemon still manages to keep things fresh. BW2 lacked that charm due to the addition of popular Pokes like Lucario (ugh), and XY had Gen 1 pandering all over the place.

>>29244221
>new region
>uses old pokemon

Why?

>>29237377

>Hating Galvantual
>Hating Golurk

nah m8, you just have shit tastes. You're only reeming quality is that you like Durant and Volcarona

but you still overall have shit taste

>>29243966
>I started with gen 5

>>29242738
Whimsicott and Lilligant

>the animeposter is a clinical retard

Every.

Fucking.

Time.

>>29242738

>There is though, because it is bland.
Again, just a claim without any arguments to back it up. At least I was able to back up my claim that Gen 5 wasn't as bland as other games.

>Such as?
Your rival beat the league, Ghetsis's betrayal.

It's not like I got caught off guard either, the point is that at least the story tried, the same can't be said from other games so far.

>Gen 6 had a good dex
Gen 5 had a better dex

>The difficulty is piss easy in gen 5.
Still harder than gen 6 where only the fucking champion has a full team and even then it was a shitty team with shitmon like Aurorus. Gen 6 really dropped the ball in terms of difficulty which hurt the quality of the game.

I could same the same thing about your list of favorite 6+7 Pokemon. They do nothing to me. The saddest thing is, the Pokemon you listed are also in my opinion the best both gens has to offer.

It's beyond me how a fucking tree apparently does more to you than a gallant knight bug or an upside down squid that looks like a fucked up owl is better than another knight-inspired Pokemon, Bisharp. A Gardevoir in diapers makes into your favorite Pokemon, yet an elegant design like Lilligant is just ''meh''. The magic of opinions I suppose.

Vikavolt is good, but wont beat Volcarona in design anytime soon.

At least gen 5 has more variety than gen 7 which is waifufaggotry: the dex with more or less lame Pokemon and just one actually great Pokemon. so far.

>>29243966
seconded

>>29244329
I started with Red asshole.

>>29244329
This makes no sense. People who start with Gen 5 wouldn't be averse to genwun pandering because they've never experienced the Pokemon and Kanto especially if they never go back and play those games.

People who start with Gen 1, however, are more likely to be irritated at the pandering because it's been done repeatedly almost every generation and they'd be sick and tired of it.

This "wow you hate gen 1 you must've started with gen 5 :^)" meme needs to die already

>>29244458
I actually think that Gen 7 has great designs, and this is coming from a guy who loves Gen 5.

>>29244654
That's absolutely fine, I'm not presenting my opinions as the objective truth. It's just my opinion and I explain why I think like I do. I just can't see the appeal of most of them, for example. Oricorios are boring. Jangmo-o's evo is one of the ugliest Pokemon ever released and it was a huge disappointment to me.

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>>29244458
>At least I was able to back up my claim that Gen 5 wasn't as bland as other games.
Which I effortlessly picked apart.

>Your rival beat the league
How was that a surprise? That shit was done in the very first fucking game in the series my underage friend.

>Ghetsis's betrayal.
Woah, what a twist, it's not like it was blatantly obvious right from the get go what he was doing.
Oh, wait.

>Gen 5 had a better dex
It doesn't though. Gen 5 is actually known for its awful dex.

Gen 6 is universally agreed upon as having a solid dex consisting of exclusively 7+/10 pokemon.

>Still harder than gen 6
It's not though.
Again, you're clearly just an underage child who had difficulty with gen 5 because it was the first pokemon game you've played. The game is piss easy in the same vain as X&Y.

>At least gen 5 has more variety than gen 7 which is waifufaggotry: the dex with more or less lame Pokemon and just one actually great Pokemon. so far.

What good is variety when all you have to choose from is shit?

Try not to get so triggered because I called the shit tier pokemon you like on being bad, it's embarrassing in all honesty.

>>29244458
Not him, I kinda agree with him. I feel as if they tried way too hard in Gen 5 and beat you over the head with it. I never really felt challenged by the theme of B/W because Plasma is obviously being a bunch of fucking assholes. Nothing they do justifies the release your mons thing. N didn't seem evil, but like a bit of a wackjob. They have all these little sidestories about how being a trainer is great and how they love their pokemon and growing but it's so awkward, like when you're forced to listen to Elesa tell Bianca's dad to let her pursue her dreams. N actually getting that far was alright, but it didn't really make up for everything else that happened beforehand.

>>29244797
You admited liked the designs of a few more Pokemon though like Lilligant and Swadloon

>>29236769
unovabortions absolutely BTFO.

eh. I can assemble 6 teams tho.

>Starter
>Beartic
>Haxorus
>Escavalier
>Hydreigon
>Bisharp

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>>29244868
I said I couldn't find anything wrong with their designs, from an objective point of view.
I still don't like them.

Gigalith is the only one I outright said I like enough to use.

>>29244934
>Hydreigon
>Bisharp
>Haxorus
>Escavalier

Yeah, no. I wish I could have used them but they evolve way too late or in Escavalier's case requires a trade.

>>29236769
What was the point of making a shitpost thread when you could be playing the demo or else more constructive than arguing over revived old news?

>>29245030
And that's your opinion. That doesn't make it right, that doesn't make it mine wrong

From a design point Gen 5 was made creatively from a design choice, I don't like the story, but I give it credit for trying. It's obvious not all Pokemon were the main focus when making the games

>>29244369

OP here. Look at all these autists trying to defend Gen 5 when clearly they aren't doing well in Metacritic. BTFO.

I'm starting to get concerned for how many smug faces you have anon

>>29237117
Zebstrika, Gigalith, Excadrill, Audino, Conkeldurr, Seimistoad, Sawk/throh, Scolipede, Whimsicott, Leavanny * Best grassfu*, Shadescroc,Rapeape, Maractus, Crustle, Scrafty, Silgyph,Cofagrigus,Carracosta, Archeops, Garbodor * i honestly do love trubbish*,Cincinno, Reuniculus,Emolga,Escavalier,Accellgor,Pringles,Galvantula,Haxorus, Chandelure, Hydreigon, Mienfoo, Golurk, Bisharp, Afrobull, Braviary, Volcarona, The fighting trio, The therian form genies, Tao legends ,and Meloetta

Gen 5's starters were overall shit, but wow did the dex make up for it

>>29238134
>Gen 5 autists crying their eyes out about gamefreak not giving them any attention.

The starters got distributed with their HAs earlier this year and there was an Unova Classic. This is on top of the fact that they put a fuckload of Unova cameos as well as Gen 5 Pokemon in X/Y.

So yes, Game Freak does pay attention to Gen 5 autists, plenty. This whole thread is literally "GEN 5 IS BAD BECAUSE I SAID SO" and you need to hang yourself yesterday.

>>29237934

Dragonite, Quagsire, Spinda, Probopass, Slurpuff.

Literally everyone Gen has derpmon.

GenV was a mistake.

>>29244797

All I hear is ''it's bland!!!!!!!!!'' and ''le shit dex'' with no back up at all. Empty claims don't do shit to me.

>How was that a surprise? That shit was done in the very first fucking game in the series my underage friend.

It wasn't done since then and when they did it again, they did it better.

Just as I said
>It's not like I got caught off guard either, the point is that at least the story tried, the same can't be said from other games so far.

The fact that Gen 5 had more NPC with full team already makes it harder than XY where everyone except the champion has 1-4 Pokemon and even those team consist of shitmons that don't require any effort to beat.

Like I give a shit what mainstream thinks, that's literally your only argument in the entire debate. It's as if you can't actually form your own opinion. You just follow the majority like a sheep.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that if you agree with the majority you are retard. What I'm saying is that I require more back up from you besides ''IT'S MORE POPULAR XD''.

>Gen 6 is universally agreed upon as having a solid dex consisting of exclusively 7+/10 pokemon.

>Goodra
>Slurpluff
>Barbaracle
>Aromatisse
>Furfrou

>7+/10 Pokemon

Yup, it's official. You are retarded.

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>>29245074
Not interested in the demo because fuck only being able to use greninja. I'll just wait until the actual game comes out.

>>29245091
There's no excuse for one of, if not the largest dexes we've had to be filled with so much shit.

When X&Y and S&M have half the dex size, but it's still much easier to throw together a team of 6 that I actually like, then there's a problem.

>>29245184
They're dogshit. See >>29237377
Leavanny is nowhere near the best grassfu either, Lurantis and Tsareena easily take that crown.

>>29245137
Real OP here, I agree with this post anyway.

>This is on top of the fact that they put a fuckload of Unova cameos as well as Gen 5 Pokemon in X/Y.
They put a fuck load of pokemon from all gens in X&Y. Unova had the least, just like it does in S&M.

>So yes, Game Freak does pay attention to Gen 5 autists, plenty.
Tip top kek, if you think that is them paying attention to your autistic ass then you are pitiful because that's literally nothing.

They've removed even more bloat that gen 5 added in S&M as well.

>>29245412
>Implying
It said you could use it, not that you could ONLY use it anon.

>>29236769
>"Ara ara"

Few times have I cringed this hard on a /vp/ post

>>29245412
>when there's less Pokemon it's easier to make a team

?

Not to mention Kalos's dex made up less than 15% of the region

>my opinion is fact

This thread is pointless. Mods!

>>29245412
Oh yes, way to ignore the part of the post that proves you wrong.

>>29245412
>my opinion is fact

>>29245098

>>29245288
Stop replying to bait seriously.

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>>29245405
>All I hear is ''it's bland!!!!!!!!!'' and ''le shit dex'' with no back up at all. Empty claims don't do shit to me.

Cringe worthy crying response. My favorite.

>It wasn't done since then and when they did it again
>Get blown the fuck out
>Move goalposts to try save face
Pottery in its purest form.

>The fact that Gen 5 had more NPC with full team already makes it harder than XY
Platinum has team galactic admins only having like 2 pokemon and they're harder to beat than anything in BW. Team size is irrelevant when those teams are padded out with shitmons like in BW.

>Like I give a shit what mainstream thinks, that's literally your only argument in the entire debate. It's as if you can't actually form your own opinion. You just follow the majority like a sheep.

Hilarious coming from a guy hiding in his /vp/ safespace, aka the only place that praises gen 5 due to the contrarian nature around here.

>Goodra
>Slurpluff
>Barbaracle
>Aromatisse
>Furfrou

>7+/10 Pokemon

They're 10/10 when compared to gen 5 pokemon tbqh.

>>29245473
Nothing proved me wrong. Way to get BTFO and cry about it to me though.

>>29237117
Now let's narrow it down to the good pokemon that you listed

>Aegislash, Clawitzer, Trevenant, Greninja.

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>>29245754
>Now let's narrow it down to the good pokemon that you listed

Okay.

>Dragalge, Malamar, Aegislash, Clawitzer, Tyrantrum, Hawlucha, Trevenant, Noivern, Talonflame, Gogoat, Meowstic, Gourgeist, Goodra, Greninja

>>29245809
>Goodra
>Greninja
>Clawitzer
>Gogoat

Oh so you do have shit taste

>>29245809
Now let's narrow it down to the good pokemon that you listed

>Aegislash, Clawitzer, Trevenant, Greninja.

:^)

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>>29245809
Nope, I have the best taste. Clearly you have shit taste if you don't like Clawitzer, but that's hardly surprising considering you're a gen 5 apologist. Having shit taste is practically a prerequisite for that.

>>29245943
>Now let's narrow it down to the good pokemon that you listed

Okay.

>Dragalge, Malamar, Aegislash, Clawitzer, Tyrantrum, Hawlucha, Trevenant, Noivern, Talonflame, Gogoat, Meowstic, Gourgeist, Goodra, Greninja

>>29246019
Now let's narrow it down to the good pokemon that you listed

>Aegislash, Clawitzer, Trevenant, Greninja.

Winkarino shitlord.

BW are the games I enjoyed the less, but the pokedex is actually good.

How can you hate a region with all those cool bugs?

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>>29246019
>Now let's narrow it down to the good pokemon that you listed

Okay.

>Dragalge, Malamar, Aegislash, Clawitzer, Tyrantrum, Hawlucha, Trevenant, Noivern, Talonflame, Gogoat, Meowstic, Gourgeist, Goodra, Greninja

>>29245809
Fucking shit taste

Goodra Meowstic Gogoat and Clawitzer are so shit

They are drawn to look childish, overly cute and "derpy".
The drastic art style change is readily apparent and solidifies most of them as shit

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>>29246135
You fucked up nigga, I win.

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>>29246165
Better design than anything in gen 5. Easily.

>>29246218
Only on the quote. It can't be helped.
Now let's resume where we left off, you're not getting out of being a free thread bumper that easily.

>Large dex filled with so many dog shit designs that I can't even throw together a team of 6 pokemon.
Now that is just embarrassingly bad, I've never had that issue with any other gen. Ever.

Are you sure you're not talking about gen iv?

>>29237290
>BW2 were considerably better due to the regional dex reintroducing tons of old mons
That wasn't a good thing.

>>29246306
Look at all those body parts and it's unrealistic proportions

And the random black lines everywhere

>>29245681
Whimsicott and Lilligant

>>29246165
>They are drawn to look childish, overly cute and "derpy".
How the fuck does Clawitzer look like any of that you complete fucking retard? Blast your brains out you contrarian faggot.

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>>29246451
Literally a realistic shrimp with an enlarged claw and a great color scheme.
Everything that makes a good pokemon is in its design.

Copy pasting what I said for your garbage gen 5 pokemon unfortunately doesn't work on these pokemon since their proportions are all perfect, and when something isn't it's because of a design choice that actually makes sense, not laziness and deviant art tier ideas.

>>29246519
Liligant is cute.
Whimsicott looks like a fucking gingerbread man covered in fluff.

You know what sucks? When you tell everyone to ignore the bait thread, it still bumps it up.
I wish mods took down this shitty thread already.

Who get's mad at one shit flingers opinion?

>>29246583
I was quoting the OP of the thread who is probably (you)

They used this to desribe hydreigon

>>29246617
How many smug faces do you have?

>>29246617
Krookodile line

>>29245681

Yet again you aren't even trying to prove me wrong. You aren't fooling anyone with your smug anime girls when all you are offering is empty claims.

I never had a problem in Platinum, so sounds like you just suck at Pokemon.

>BW Pokemon
>Shitmon

Wrong. BW is the gen that made base 150 stat a common sight in Pokemon. Many gen 5 Pokemon had pretty good stats, especially ingame stats. Meanwhile 90% of gen 6 Pokemon are NU tier shitmon with terrible stats. Another reason why XY was so easy. Diantha is the most pathetic champion to date.

You assume that I like gen 5 because /vp/ does, which is wrong. Even if you were right, at least I'm able to back up my claims besides just saying ''This is good because it's popular''.

All you do is shout claims without any arguments to back them up. When you get proven wrong, you just say ''Nuh-uh, I'm right'', like a child. But what else can be expected from a person who can't form opinions and instead uses popularity as an argument.

>>29246434

Yes it was, because they used a good variety of Pokemon that hadn't reappeared in other games very often, and had them in areas which were atypical, like finding wild Riolu on the 2nd or 3rd route.

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>>29246664
More than enough to last until this thread dies, be it by reaching the bump limit or just from getting no bumps.

>>29246682
Already commented on this. Krookodile itself looks like shit. Reminiscent to a fucking Looney Tunes character.

I cannot stand Krookodile.
Its pre evo is not to my liking either for the same reasons.
Sandile however is fine. Shame its line is ruined by the other two.

>>29246718
Your whole post is literally tl;dr crying drivel at this point.
You've done nothing but repeat the same post worded differently for your past few posts due to getting well and truly destroyed at every point you try to make.

>All you do is shout claims without any arguments to back them up.
I've been answering >>29246682 anon through the thread though.

Now either be quiet or reply with a post that doesn't reek of asshurt, my crying little anon-kun.

>>29246718
Unova had plenty of shitmon. Hell, if you picked the grass starter you were guaranteed a shitmon because that shit's only good with Contrary.

It is mind blowing how anyone can defend SM. I want to conduct an experiment with the apologists, isolate them in a simulated reality environment and progressively introduce fake new generations of Pokemon that are just blatantly and deliberately terrible. I want to study their brain patterns and discover the limits of the intensity of mental gymnastics they will go through in order to excuse something they believe to be a new mainline Pokemon game. Would there ever be a point where they would finally say, "OK, nah, that's not very good", or is there simply no lower bound?

>>29246718
>Wrong. BW is the gen that made base 150 stat a common sight in Pokemon. Many gen 5 Pokemon had pretty good stats, especially ingame stats. Meanwhile 90% of gen 6 Pokemon are NU tier shitmon with terrible stats. Another reason why XY was so easy. Diantha is the most pathetic champion to date.
Are you fucking retarded? Mega mom and a plethora of other mega's are some of the strongest pokemon in competitive play. Grenininja, smogon bird, smogon sword, and Xerneas are also high up there.
Stop giving us a bad name with these ill informed posts.

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>>29246986
>Asshurt shitter who desperately tries to defend the universally agreed upon worst dex tries to shit about peoples taste in pokemon

Holy fucking shit, my sides have been obliterated.

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>mfw these faggots get cucked by obvious bait

>>29246875
>Get verbally BTFO
>Y-you're cleary upset
>I-I'm not BTFO you are wrong
>H-have this picture of a smug animu girl

>You've done nothing but repeat the same post worded differently for your past few posts due to getting well and truly destroyed at every point you try to make.

Speak for yourself.

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>>29247332
Now this is some undeniable ass pain if I've ever seen any.
What a weak willed little bitch lmao.

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>>29247443

There you go, you finally did it. You reached the final level.

>>29246875
Darmanitan line

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>>29247710
That was literally your post right here >>29247332 though

I love /VP/

>>29247825
It wasn't, I was just calling you out of your bullshit which left you with no option but to start calling me names.

Talk about getting BTFO.

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>>29247934
More like you cried your eyes out because I picked apart your poorly constructed argument and now you're throwing a tantrum to avoid embarrassment.
There there anon, it'll all be over soon.

>this thread is still up
>autists still arguing with the guy who started a bait thread
>implying he's not going to bait you into replaying, regardless of what you say
leaks have definitely brought an influx of newfag redditors here.

sage.

>All these assblasted unovabortions

Not everybody wants to suck on your gen's tiny dick

Top bait in this thread, OP.

I'm pretty sure that when people say that they want the "BW style" back, they just mean a larger dex with a fuckload of new mons, which is something hard to not want.

The problem with Gen 6 and 7 is that the designs are really good, but the low number of new mons feels pretty disappointing. A larger dex with this design quality would be the shit. Best of both worlds.

>>29248179
>e-everyone who doesn't agree with me is baiting!

Kill yourself

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>>29248189
>I'm pretty sure that when people say that they want the "BW style" back, they just mean a larger dex with a fuckload of new mons, which is something hard to not want.
So then let's say we want a big dex full of quality mons instead of shitmon, because whenever somebody says BW style I immediately think of a large dex filled with shit.
A more apt description would be Kanto style.

>>29248079
And they're falling for an avatarfag on top of all this

>>29236769
Black 2 is probably my favorite Pokemon game right now. Despite your strawman narrative, I don't care that they're not "pandering" to me, and Sun and Moon are looking to upstage it right now as long as they have a good postgame.

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>>29236769
>another false-flagger thread
nice

>ara ara
>fuccboi
kill yourself

>Outside of your little hugbox on /vp/, gen 5 is universally agreed as being the worst gen in Pokemon
because popularity has so much to do with how good or bad something is, right?
do you only listen to top 40 music? do you only play AAA games? do you only watch hyped up "releases of the summer?"


>Knowing you autists won't be able to enjoy gen 7 just makes me enjoy everything we've seen even more.
>>Ultra Beasts are quite literally the best thing about gen 7, I cannot keep out of the speculation threads
>>Team skull is already confirmed to be the best team in the series and we still don't know much about them
>>Aether foundation still full of wonder and mystery
>>Solid pokedex despite being small
I'm enjoying all of these you fucking autist. Not everything is black and white, people can enjoy multiple things.

>:^)
reddit

>>29248806
also
>metacritic
>being a reputable source

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I'm going to bed since it's way past my bed time now, and I need my beauty sleep.
This has been a bountiful thread though.

Feel free to cry about my posts or call me names behind my back while I'm gone. Or a combination of the two!