Now that we know A-Gren and Xzards stats. Can someone work out

Wasn't normal greninjas stats buffed in the demo? if so how are we sure those are A-Grens real stats?

>>29233921
A-Gren form gives it a big boost to Attack, Sp.Atk, and Speed.

>>29233879

Ash Greninja's Water Shuriken in Rain easily OHKOs Zard if it hits 4 or 5 times, and has a chance if it hits 3 times.

So if Ash wasn't a retard who ordered Cut, he would have won.

>>29234148
But the rain stopped as soon as Charizard came out

You guys do realize Water is not super effective on Fire/DRAGON right?

>>29234148
Alan's Charizard had like four times the amount of health it should legally have if you count the whole fight.

Duragon Craw would two shot Greninja, so would Buurasto Buranu.

Charizard had already taken damage from Pikachu before the fight with Greninja, and the Thunderbolts would have been SE since he was regular Zard at the time. How much health would it have had by the time it fought Greninja?

>>29234310
Let's also consider that Alain powergrinded his CHarizard against a ton of megas, Primal Groudon, Mega fug, and only used it to wipe out all the gyms

It's probably like lv 80 by now. Ash-Greninja is maybe lv 40~50

>>29234148
Anon even if Ash could instant kill Alain's mons, the higher ups wouldn't allow it.

>>29234369
>only ever shown using Charizard
>somehow his entire team was on par with Ash's
Exp Share is a wonderful thing. :^)

>>29234369
>Primal Groudon
Nearly fucking killed it. You're talking out of your ass.

The fact is, NOTHING should beat the shonen protagonist's special snowflake powerup when it matters most. They broke that rule and proved without a shadow of a doubt that the show will never amount to anything, and will be stopped if it tries.

>>29234629
>protagonist's special snowflake powerup
Didn't people hate Greninja for having that powerup in the anime?

>>29235073
It was foreshadowed nicely, had proper development, and provided a lot of character development for Ash. Some people thought it looked stupid, but that's about it.

Any of the morons yelling "asspull" didn't watch the show, because from a storytelling perspective, it was very well done.

A level 100 Pikachu with no items or EVs vs a level 100 Charizard with maxed Def and Spec Def as well as HP EVs loses 65% HP minimum

A level 50 Greninja's cut with the EV spread and nature given to us in the game, combined with one of the Ash-Greninja's Water Shurikens kills Charizard even after it mega evolves

>>29235137
>very well done
>a Greninja that trained with ash for two months has a stronger bond with him than Pikachu
>Its bond was so strong it caused a form change only seen once before, hundreds of years ago
>Ash did it in weeks
yeah OKAY

>>29234456
They reboot him every gen though

>>29235535
>>a Greninja that trained with ash for two months has a stronger bond with him than Pikachu
Pikachu doesn't have a bond form. If it did, Ash would have done it. That's like complaining that your starter doesn't have a happiness evolution. Does it mean your starter doesn't have max happiness? No.
>>Its bond was so strong it caused a form change only seen once before, hundreds of years ago
Foreshadowing, yes.
>>Ash did it in weeks
The timeframe doesn't matter, dipshit. If you're on the same frequency, you're on the same frequency. That's like saying a new radio has no right to tune in to an old station.

>>29235641
retarded animewatcher
Ash-Greninja was an asspull no mafter how you want to try and grasp at straws

Also that last analogy lmao just stop

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>>29234148
>3 or 4 times
>OHKO

>>29234629
>Nearly fucking killed it
It didn't even faint. It also managed to weaken Groudon to the point that Fug managed to OHKO it.

>>29235695
I'm sure you can find something better to shitpost about.

>>29235819
Go back to your containment thread

>>29235702
>use one multi-hit move
>hits multiple times
>KOs in one turn making it an OHKO
???