so it looks like ash-greninja has good stats or im retarded and

>>29211894
you are retarded

can you soft reset for its nature

>>29211894
Retard kys

72/145/67/153/71/132

This is assuming the info that it has an EV spread of 128/128/252, IVs of 20/31/20/31/20/31, and neutral nature was correct.

>>29211923
this.

also will the exact one be transferred to SM with its nature intact.

ive checked using max ivs and evs and its stats are too high to not have a stat boost through battle bond

no one cares tho because its not protean

>>29212134
>+110 bst instead of +100

epic

>>29211894
Did Water Shuriken get changed to Special or did I mishear?

>>29212244
Just noticed that after posting. Either I did something wrong or Ash-Greninja is just special.

>Ash-Greninja is totally a cosmetic change only gueyzz!! its totally shit inferior to proteinnnn!!

Enjoy your +600 BST mon capable of holding an item with excellent dual stab for the current meta.

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is this thing better than the protean ability??

>>29212134
yep, can confirm those stats, too. fucking sick stuff.

>>29212300
Well, Greninja deserves all the buffs it can get, so it should be welcomed.

>>29212300
I got the same answer, just game freak being fucky I guess

>Water Shuriken in now special.

Why does GF get such massive hardons for only 1 starter poke at a time? Why not treat them all equally?

YOU WHAT IF OUR STARTERS GET BATTLEBOND

ALL THREE BECOME UBERS OR OU?

>>29212305
>>29212304
Protean grants it more power on non-STAB moves. It's certainly viable, but I wouldn't call it better than Protean. Only its STABs are stronger, and it still has to KO to change formes.

>>29212417
>wanting shitnaught and shitphox to get buffs
No fuck off with your equality SJW shit, these shitmons don't deserve jack.

CrescentShadow on suicide watch :(

>>29212453
>not wanting delphox to have a psychic type version of scald
>giving chesnaught more balk

>>29212173
I hope not. You'll fuck up your EVs that way.

Base 145 Att
Base 153 Spa
Base 132 Spe

Capable of holding a Life Orb

I'M SCREAMING

So
+50 Attack
+50 SpAtk
+10 Speed

Holy shit

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this battle bond ability better have a good stat boost to justify all the hype.

>>29212887
Dude, it has already dethroned Primal Groudon as the king of ubers, don't kid yourself.

>>29212887
Battle Bond's secondary effect is to boost Water Shuriken.
Beyond that, it gives stat buffs that surpass the damage caused by Protean

>>29212417
fucking why. i loved my physical protean greninja so much

>>29211894
What does battle bond do?

Ash grenugger is a God tier mon. Yet still loses to memezard z

>>29213035
>le memezard meme

Back to reality faggot.

>>29213035
Nothing beats reverse plotarmor, anon.

>>29213007
nobody knows, it has all been speculation.

>>29213120
I thought ash greninja has the ability in the demo

>>29213054
Someone is salty i see

>>29212726
Let's hope they don't throw a boosting move in.
Didn't somebody say work up is a tm again?

>>29212447
Water Shuriken gets a buff on top of it all, though.

>>29211923
you parents didn't soft reset when you came out retarded

>>29212669
There are a variety of ways to reset your EVs.

>>29213142
it does, but no who has played it has showed the public what exactly gets boosted during "battle bond"

>>29213198
We should be hoping for Nasty Plot though, because, honestly, Greninja is too weak at the moment. It deserves to be stronger than it is.

>>29213260
Damn lazy japs

>>29212887
+50 in both attack stats and +10 speed.
And increases Water Shuriken from 15 per hit 25, 37.5 from STAB obviously.

>>29213226
*cries and shits everywhere*
*eats some of the shit on accident*

>>29212726
fuuuuuuuuck my dick is diamonds

>>29213354
>125 bp priority with stab

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>>29212782
>+110 BST boost
Bruhhhh

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>>29213485
>also breaks sub/sash/sturdy

>>29212304
>Go Chansey!

Nice Battle Bond.

>>29211923

several people reported in it appears to be hard locked to 31/31/31 attack/sp.atk/speed 20 rest and hardy nature.

So choice band?

>>29212304
Literally no one thought it was purely cosmetic retard

>>29214509
>Low Kick
Nice Chansey

>>29214565
>Low Kick
>without Protean

Nice 3HKO, nerd.

>>29213035
>>29213057
>burasto bun bypasses flash fire

>>29214615
>Having to rely on Chansey
>Also spikes bait

>>29214615
>What is Knock Off
>even with the nature lock: 252 Atk Protean Greninja Low Kick (60 BP) vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 284-336 (44.2 - 52.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

Can only the demo Greninja transferred to Sun/Moon turn into Ash-Greninja or will I be able to breed a better Greninja that can transform?

Whats mega zard-x
>inb4 you know what

>>29214552
Can confirm

>>29214712
>LOW KICK WITHOUT PROTEAN
>252 Atk PROTEAN Greninja Low Kick

>>29214727
They better let us breed Battle Bond down. Hell, I will quit Pokemon if they won't let us, I swear it.

>>29214727
Why do you think anybody knows? It has to have Battle Bond but thats all we know

>>29214758
You're aware Grenigger has to kill something to transform right?
And even without Protean

>>252 Atk Greninja Low Kick (60 BP) vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Chansey: 282-332 (43.9 - 51.7%) -- 10.9% chance to 2HKO

>11% chance to 2hko without rocks

>>29214667
May as well just use Protean if you're going to use Spikes.

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>>29213354
>a minimum 75 BP priority move that can break sash/sturdy/substitute
Jesus fucking Christ.

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>>29214826

Shadypenguin is streaming, he said Ash is your dad in the game.

>>29214826
>b-b-but in this extremely specific situation taking place in a vacuum it works 10% of the time!!!!

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>>29214972

>>29211894
Is it locked at hardy nature?

>>29214914
Protean is GOAT, but this ability and stat boost are still decent

It can still fuck shit up with
-Hydro Pump
-Dark Pulse
-Gunk Shot
-Ice Beam

Water Shuriken (if boosted by Battle Bond), HP Fire, and Low Kick are also fairly viable

>>29212244
I think we found the 10 BST that Mega Alakazam lost

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>>29213485