>Onix doesn't learn a Ground move until 37 >It's

>>29178503

Because the only ground move that matters is earthquake and it's assumed that you'll use the TM for it

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>Feraligatr gets dragon dance
>Krookodile doesn't

>>29178539
/Thread

>>29178503
>ITT OP cherry picks 5 ground type Pokemon to complain about.

>>29178651
Well one's an alligator and another's a crocodile, there's obviously a difference.

>>29178503
Also OP, what the fuck type is Spikes gonna be? It affects pokemon on the GROUND. If it was rock you fags would complain about it being OP like you already do.

>>29178503
Lack of Ground moves. The only Ground move that really matters is Earthquake and with the exception of a few mons, Earthpower can only be tought by move tutors.

We seriously need new moves, the lack is simply ridiculous. And ones that actually do damage and not base 50 power bullshit.

>>29178651
It get's moxie. Try a choice scarf for a speed boost.

>>29178651
Feraligatr is shit though, Krookadile would benefit from it but it doesn't need it as much.

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>>29178651
>Scrafty gets Dragon Dance
>Flygon doesn't

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>>29178789
Wanna hear something funny? Crawdaunt is from the same gen as Flygon and got Dragon Dance on gen IV.

Really, fuck Flygon. Somebody really hates that thing.

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>>29178789
>Lapras, Tyranitar, Crawdaunt, Tropius, and Whiscash also get Dragon Dance.

>>29178738
I'm not complaining about Spikes being ground type, it's that no ground type Pokemon learn it despite it being ground type. For example, Sandslash should be able to learn it. It at least makes more sense than Snorunt.

>>29178839
DELETE THIS

>>29178839
>there isn't a single Gen 4 pokemon that learns Dragon Dance

>>29178839
It kinda makes sense for Tyranitar, Lapras, and Tropius. The former two are dragonic and the latter is my little dragon.

>>29178870
Good, gen 4 Pokemon are shit

>>29178503
>Feraligatr doesn't learn a Water move other than Water Gun until level 63

>>29178887
Yes, it kinda does. What doesn't make sense tho is that some true dragons don't learn it.

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>>29178940
That is both insulting and doesn't even make sense. Gen 2 starters are simply a mess.

>>29178983
not every dragon knows how to dance

>>29178998
Pokemon is simply a mess

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>>29179021
>fat-ass cartoony dragonite knows how to dance
>A fucking crab knows how to do a dragon-power dance
>Garchomp, one of the most versatile and agile dragons, cant do the dragon's dance
>but it can do sword's dance

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>>29179021
And this happy shit does.

>>29178838
Now that's a rare loss.
Also I hear nigra in my head on last panel. Fuck.

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>Gastly/ Haunter doesn't learn a STAB Ghost move that takes advantage of its sp.atk until level 29/33
In HeartGold at least

>>29178778
>Feraligatr is shit

It's objectively better than Krookodile.

>>29178539
>Ground type
>Cannot learn TM26
What's its name?

>>29178726
Oh my god you fucking retards, no. NO. Feraligatr is a GATR not an alligator. Jesus fucking Christ.

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>>29179099
>trying to use pidgey in R/B
>gust is a normal-type move
>doesn't learn peck
>have to wait until lvl28 to get wing attack for any damaging flying move
>and that's if you don't evolve it
how was this allowed?

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>>29179099
>gastly line didn't benefit from STAB at all until gen 4 since ghost and poison moves used to be physical

>>29179161
Poor Marowak

>>29179161
Nincada

>>29179265
Your mistake was playing gen 1 and not expecting everything to be a fucking mess.

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>>29178503
>defining feature is its glowing tail, which is bright enough to be seen from space
>doesn't learn Tail Glow

And don't give me that firefly shit, Manaphy threw that out the window ages ago.

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>heracross doesn't learn shit ever

>>29179314
Shit Nevermind I'm retarded ignore this

>>29179265
Wing Attack was normal type in gen 1 anon.

>>29179309
>shadow ball used to be a physical move that lowers Sp. Def.

>>29179099
If you're playing heart gold just beat morty and get shadow ball

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>>29179365
>mega has mold breaker

>>29179385
not according to blubberpedia

>>29179265
RBY is full of that shit, Bug and Ghost types got no moves, Sandslash dont learn Ground moves, the best Fighting move was fucking Submission, the only relevant Grass move was Razor Leaf that only a few learn

>>29179366
>aerial ace at 13
>brick break at 19

Heracross is fine where it's at. Could use a Bug move early on though.

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>>29179366
>Pinsir learns no bug moves by level up until gen IV
>gets 1 bug move
>7 fighting moves
>pure Bug type

>>29179391
I did
With a Misdreavus I traded from my copy of Pearl

>>29179395
T-waving mega sceptile
and that's about it

>>29179358
>Rhydon learns only normal-type moves
>Pidgeot's only flying type move is Wing Attack
>Scyther and Pinsir learn no bug-type moves
>Bug attacks are leech life, pin missile and twin needle

>>29179492
>Still doesn't learn Megahorn

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>>29179474
>1% encounter rate for an aerial ace and brick break
I'll get the ratatta thanks.

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>>29179576
>Psychic is immune to Ghost in Gen 1
>Only weakness is Bug
>Bug with highest Attack and a Bug move is Beedrill
>Beedrill is part Poison

>>29179686
Use jolteon it gets pin missile

the best bug you can catch in game is by fucking far butterfree

>>29179708
kind of fucked up how jolteon of all mons ends up being the only serious threat against psychics

>>29179737
>Only damaging moves learned by both Butterfree and Venomoth by level up are all Psychic type
They might as well be Bug/Psychic types.for all I care

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>>29178503
>onix has the same att stat as caterpie

>>29179661
>1% encounter rate
But this is only in platinum right? In HGSS he appears like 30% of the time on a specific tree in Azalea. thats the name right? the town with bugsy?.

>>29179828
In fact, why aren't they?

>>29179847
>has a defense of 240 with an Eviolite
>still dies with an HP stat of 35

That's 10 less than Caterpie.

>>29178503
Genagr learns no poison type moves naturally

>>29179056
DD-Chomp would be too strong

>>29179366
At least Heracross gets Mega Horn and Close Combat, Pinsir's literally only STAB level up move is X-scissor

>>29180629
>DD Garchomp would be too strong
>two gens after Garchomp, they give Salamence a Mega
>it's one of the strongest things ever

Thanks Gamefreak.

>>29180589
I always felt like the Poison type was put on Gengar to balance it more than anything. That way it was weak to Psychic and Ground, since Ghost didn't have any weaknesses in gen I.

>>29179059
Why do you think he's happy? He can dance.

>>29179746
Even then it's not a serious threat because it had asstastic attack and pin missile was hugely unreliable. Chansey and Snorlax are how you deal with psychic types in gen 1, none of them come even close to being able to get through them with the sole exception of explosion exeggutor.

>>29180701
I don't really follow competitive, how good would DD MegaChomp be?

>>29179708
>best gen 1 bug type is an electric type

>>29180807
It would remove the one downside of going mega, its speed. To put things into perspective: after a single DD, Feraligatr hits 420 speed while Jolly and with max investment. 420 is fast enough to outspeed just about anything with 140 or less speed. Feraligatr only has 78 base speed, while M-Garchomp has 92.

>>29178503
because there's been no reason to only look at level-up moves ever since TMs were reusable. just teach all those pokemon bulldoze or dig until you get earthquake

>gen 1 Electrode never learns an electric damaging move