>gluttony fucking WHY Alola Raticate, same god damn thing.

Alolan Muk with Intimidate? Rough skin? Literally anything would be better than gluttony/poison touch

We don't know anything's hidden ability right?

>>29147304
Hell, should've had Liquid Ooze or something

>>29147304
>>29147565
It'll probably get something new/different for its Hidden Ability. Even Sticky Hold wouldn't be too bad, since then it can laugh off Knock Off and Trick/Switcheroo users.

There's no way alolan raticate won't get hone claws now that it's dark type. Not sure who'd let it get one turn without switching to a counter though.

>>29147304
It's obvious they're holding back hidden abilities.
Something tells me there's even gonna be new ones for older mons (e.g. Greninja) so, just wait.


Also Poison Touch is not that bad if you go for lowering defense Crunches.

It certainly sounds pretty gluttonous. Why shouldn't it have gluttony as an ability?

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>>29147634
Going by your logic:

> Raichu is a mouse, it should have Run away and Cheek Pouch
> Snorlax is a fat bear that sleeps all the time, it should get Truant and Gluttony

Just because it fits the description doesn't mean it should have that ability.

>>29147304
>cuck
ah yes, the telltale sign of a quality poster

Alola Mum mentions the toxic crystals fly off when hit. He'll have an ability that releases toxic spikes when hit with a physical move

>>29147590
Dazzling is possible. It literally means colorful skin in other languages.

>>29147304
for recycle and pancakes xDDDDDDDDDDD

>>29147832
>hit it just once
>now immune to all relevant status unless you have a poison mon yourself

>>29147304
>complaining about the genderfluid pokemon

>>29147590
Knock Off hits sticky hold users at full power every hit.
I guess since Muk is usually pretty physically bulky and Dark type it's not too big if a deal.

>>29147304
CORROSION

>>29147810
haha ok

>>29148056
nice one

>>29147304
At least Ratticate now has stab on Faint Attack.

Hypno gotta watch out for that.

>>29148012
>literally made of genderfluid
>Muk spelled backwards is...

>>29147810
Dedenne does get cheekpouch, and snorlax does have gluttony.

>>29147810
Ratata, a rat, gets runaway.

>>29148021
Knock Off may have been nerfed.

Do Alolan forms have HA's? or it just might not be known yet.

>>29148501
I like the effect of the move, I think an increase to 70 BP and no double if holding an item would be good.

It's still a move you can use but it isn't doubly strong when it makes a large impact.

>>29147304
Belch

>>29148886
If they changed belch to have eaten a berry at all then it'd be good.
Shuca Berry Muk

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>>29147810
>hot air balloon
>has flash fire

What is Drifblim?

>>29149124
Drifblim doesn't have flash fire, m8

>>29147590
>>29148021
Why would that ever be useful on a Pokemon that already resists Dark moves lmao
Also Muk has terrible physical defense, what it does have good is special defense.

>>29149124
>>29149424
I was really tired, I meant Flare Boost. But you get my point.

>>29149593
>fire boost
>how do hot air balloons work

>>29149440
Yeah I thought Muk was Attack and Defence, and Weezing was Sp. Attack and Sp. defence but it's Attack/Sp.Def and Sp.Attack/Defence.

Still 105 HP stat is nice.

My point wasn't that Knock Off was good against Muk, more that it's a 130 base power 100 accuracy dark attack every time against a sticky hold user.