Ok so there have been 51 Pokemon officially revealed how many

>>29102841
85

>>29102841
We'll know before the game launches, even if they scrub the demo.

They are going to reveal them all anyway. I fucking hate how they market the games nowadays.

Around 60.

85-90, completely new pokemon.

Around 100 including Alolan Forms.

109

>>29102877
Agree.

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>>29102841
Here's the numbers over the years for reference

>>29102841
I think we're going to geta reapeat of Gen 6.

>>29102841
Probably around 100-120, not counting regional forms. It just seems unlikely they would reveal everything, and the reason GenVI had a short newcomers list is probably because of the 3D jump, they didn't had enough time and resources to splurge on new mons since they remodeled all of them pokeymans. Odd generations usually have more new monsters like >>29102928 shows, it's a stable trend.

>>29102980
Muh patterns

>>29102932
Lower

>>29102980
I think the trend is waning though. They'll probably want to slow down on the numbers now so late in the franchise's life.

You can see it too, with how they added 43(?) alternate forms of old mons in Gen 6 rather than just make new ones, and how they're doing the same again now.

>>29103008
The world is made up of patterns, sorry you're too retarded to notice.

80-85, including the Ultra Beasts. 15-20 Alolan Forms.

>>29103044
The universe isnt completely.

Your autism is showing.

>>29103036
I doubt it, the last spike was the biggest. GF is conceited enough to desperately move towards the 1000 pokemon milestone, since it's what the wanted since the game's conception.

>>29103094
I'd rather be autistic than retarded desu famalamam

>>29103008
It's an established design pattern, numbnuts.
Odd gens push 150, with mostly new evos.
Even gens are ~100, with more cross-gen evos.

When all 6 generations follow this... why would you assume otherwise?

>>29103116
Same thing. Both are the scale, but you are both.

>>29102877

I doubt that.

>>29102841
80-90 new mons, 20-30 Alolan forms, 0 new megas.

>>29103135
Muh patterns when gen 6 gave us 72 which broke it.

60 something pokemons.

>>29103096
That's the point. The last spike was so big that I'd expect them to slow down now

>>29103135
Where were the cross-gen evos in XY? I can only think in Sylveon

>>29102870
>They are going to reveal them all anyway
That litterally never happened, and before you shout "ORAS" as a reply : It's not a new gen so they had very few to show. We're dealing with the first games of an entire generation, they won't reveal everything officialy trust me

>>29103140
Why? Because your feelings?

>>29103162
But Gen 6 gave us the new forms to replace cross gen evos

>>29103135
>Even gens are ~100, with more cross-gen evos.
>gen 6 barely had 70 new mons and only one cross gen evo

B-but muh patterns.

>>29103164
The last spike was big because they didn't reused mons for that region.
Hoenn however reused quite a lot and they still had lots of newcomers.

>>29103187
Forms dont count. Gen 7 already has lot of forms.

Megas don't count dex wise.

Remember they don't even make baby mons anymore and they had no cross evos in gen 5 and only one in 6.

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>>29103185

Game freak wouldn't do that.

>>29103347
>>29102928
boy just save the higher quality version

though I should have included the growing total as well

>>29103347
Richard, they did last gen?

>>29103192
Try memeing harder. Maybe you'll develop enough acumen to be able to troll competently.

Megas don't count for dex, but they do count for "cross gen evos".
As they're actual evolutions (BST growth) instead of just form changes (no BST change).

>>29102841
128 including mythical Pokémon

>>29103162
>implying 70:~100 is in any way different than 120:~150
Good job with that headspace you got there.

>>29103471
Gamefreak dosen't consider them cross evos. And they're temporary and dont get a dex number.

Try again tumblr autist.

>>29103500
70 is historically low for Pokemon. Won't even go pass 100 this year.

Try again wizard boy.

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>>29103504
>Gamefreak dosen't consider them cross evos

>Implying that the low number of new pokemon in Kalos is not because Megas are considered "new pokemon" by gamefreak

I have no idea but i would be happy with at least 90 new mons, 25 alolan forms. Not expecting new megas, but I wouldn't mind if some gen five and six mons got some.

Since Gamefreak is a bad company that is notorious for being lazy, we'll only get 80-85 new mons

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>>29103591

Game freak don't consider alternative forms as new Pokémon.

>>29102928
80 Pokémon
500 Pokedex

>>29103591
They're megas you fucking virgin.

Get raped by a pack of niggers

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>>29103407

They introduce 72 new Pokémon in total.

Game freak didn't introduce less than that.

>>29103591
Gamefreak considers them forms different enough that can allow them to make less new pokemon. But they arent new Pokemon

>>29102841
why 51? do we count forms as 1 pokemon? Because I looked at (pokewiki, german bulbapedia) and only saw 37 ?

>>29103989

You can't count forms as new Pokémon.

>>29103471
I like scyther steel-form

>>29102841
96

>>29103962
72 was a new low? Are you saying it's impossible to have a new lower amount in the future?

Just above 109

>>29104170
They're evolutions, though.

>>29105075

Alternative forms are Alternative forms.

Not new Pokémon.

>>29105031

Who knows but Game freak.

100 new Pokemon, I hope.

151 new ones would be nice, but it's not happening.

>>29105187
I know. Im john gamefreak.

74. Screencap this.

>>29103895
that sounds fucking awful

>>29102928
Gen 6 was a fucking mistake

>>29103044
I was very bad at pattern recognition when we took those retarded exams in elementary school and I haven't gotten much better

t. Senior in University
>tfw still having difficulty in shit because of this

Reminder that evengenfags are totally fine with less than 100 Pokémon, maybe even less than that.

With that many already revealed, it would be lame for there not to be at least 100. You shouldn't have to avoid the official news if you dont want 90% of the dex revealed pre-release.

>>29102841
Somewhere between 90 and 100

Do we consider Alolan forms as new Pokemon? They have new stats, typing, abilities.

>>29102841
if it's lower than 100 then just kill me now.

>>29105977
I'd say the 3/5ths rule applies.

>>29105977
No, it's bullshit if GF consider that.

>>29106048
They take roughly the same development time.

>>29106065
You chop off a lot of the initial steps but in terms of asset creation yes.

>>29102858
>85
Nice meme, retard. That leak got BTFO the instant we saw Grimer

>>29103180
Don't hype me up senpai... I want to believe you, but I don't want to be disappointed...

Anyone remember that Lunaala is 109 shit? Did that come from the riddler or is it garbage

117

Screenshot

>we haven't had any new Baby mons, branch evolutions, or cross-gen evos (except Sylveon) since Gen 4
It hurts.

>>29106556
It would be cool if one of the Alolan forms actually gains access to an additional stage...

>>29106417
They have at most 2 more major pieces of news after tomorrow. They're not going to show 30+ mons in that time.

>>29106580
It's still 5 weeks until launch, and we have 1 more Corocoro before then. I think we'll get at least 2 or 3 more reveals

>>29105977

Alternative Forms are not new Pokémon

>>29102841
52

>>29103962
Wow. Gen 6 had some of the best shiny mons. Hands down.
Red Clawitzer, Purple Braxien, Purple gourghiest, and Blue Tyrantrum. Muh dick.

>>29106556
Megaevolutions and Alolan forms are probably how they're going to be referencing old Pokémon from here on out.

>>29106771
Alolan Forms are new Pokémon in everything but name. The Pokédex doesn't matter as long as Nidoran and the Latis are considered separate species.

Well so far we have 56 pokemon confirmed, counting the starters final forms and pipikipek's 2 unkown evos. Two days before bw came out we knew 51 of its 156 pokemon. For kalos it was 40ish. So who knows how many well get, but I'm hoping for more than 120.

>>29108909
100 minimum but the 120+ would make up for kalos lack of new pokes

>>29103135
But gen 3 had more cross gen evos than gen 6

>>29106556
Alolan Eggxecutor/Raichu/Marowak are cross gen evolutions you know

>>29108472
They're closer to new pokemon than most other forms are, but in the end they're still just forms

>>29102841
80

>>29103888
Funny you use that picture, because Mega Mewtwo Y was initially revealed as a new Pokemon.

>>29106556
Good. I don't need to carry more incenses, hold items, and evolutionary stones.

>>29106020
I dig this. New typings, models, movesets, stats...but the design is heavily based on existing mons.

Well first look at Corocoro's round up before the 69/72 total = 35 Pokemon.
They revealed 6 extras which were part of the other half that wasn't shown yet.
Since the first half is shown until less than a month, that means we can get a bit more than 100 (104-114), and 20 alolan forms.

>>29111307
LoL


Only 60 something.

100 like Rotomdex showed

>>29111420
Lot of alolan forms

>>29110741

It wasn't. Just a alternative form of old Pokémon.

>>29108472

No. alternative forms.

>>29111482
It was. It was marketed initially as a "new Pokemon with a resemblance to Mewtwo".

>>29111558

No. Mega evolution is just a transformation.

>>29111575
I'm not arguing semantics, I'm telling you how they described it as first.

>>29111652

Alternative forms are Alternative forms.

>>29102928
Would anyone play a game with a region that has every single pokemon in the dex? Even if the encounter rates were so that what you find the most are new pokemon/new variants?

>>29111857
Yes, but Game Freak/Nintendo originally declared Mega Mewtwo Y as a strange new Pokémon with some relation to Mewtwo. You are wrong in saying that it was not originally stated to be a new Pokémon