Machamp will be the most broken pokemon with Fissue and No G

congrats op you are the first person to EVER realize this

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>>29063578
>Machamp will be the most broken pokemon with Fissue and No [Guard]
>Levitate
>Sturdy
>Flying Types
>Gale Wings
>Quick Attack + Aerilate
>Air Balloon
>Focus Sash

Not really. Which begs the question why people think this should not be allowed for SM

>>29063677
>implying i didn't set up sneaky stalagmites
>implying im not carrying a focus sash myself
>unironically using scarf machamp when bravest bird exists

I think no-guard will get nerfed

>>29063578
Remember when No Guard + Sheer Cold Machamp was legal? This is nothing new.

>>29064023
>legal
m8

>>29063578
So what.


What sbout the other pokemons? Their stats and moves from gen 1? Any other Pokemon to watch out for?

I know they won't have items because of the bank, but what about abilities ?


Kanto Pokemons not changing into their newer types like the later gens did?

That's rb and yellow. Yellow had some alight differences.

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>>29063578
>all Mach-line transfered from RBY have Steadfast instead

>>29064002
>unironically using scarf machamp when bravest bird exists
exactly my point. This combo is no longer broken as it would have had it debuted about 2 generations ago. No Guard Fissure should not make panties turn into knots and should be allowed.

>>29063578
>inb4 gamefreak just updates fissure to not be a OHKO.

>>29063677
Because it's fucking stupid and encourages even more bird/levitate spam. Anyone who thinks that something is balanced just because there are technically counterplays is an idiot.

>>29064023
It was obtainable, but not at all legal, you had to abuse glitches to get it and it wouldn't pass any hack check.

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>>29063677
>>29064388
double dubs confirm Machamp No Guard Fissure should be perfectly legal for Gen 7

>>29064443
>Because it's fucking stupid and encourages even more bird/levitate spam
So? we're getting Bruxish and Lycanroc this gen

>>29063578
Pretty sure that it No Guard won't effect OHKO moves in gen 7

>>29064509
kinda makes the whole point of the ability moot then, don't you think?

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>>29064520
Aside from working on every other move in the game?

all transferred genwun mon will get their hidden ability to make them special

>>29064157
Flareon with rage from rb. Lost it post yellow.

>>29064596
>ALL moves land
but are OHKO moves still landing 100% on No Guard users?

>>29064643
Yes, as the mechanics currently are No Guard affects OHKO moves as well.

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>>29064689
no, i mean on your proposed change

>>29063677
Just because something has counters doesn't mean it's bad. It you manage to hit ANYTHING that's not immune to ground, that's a guaranteed one hit KO.

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>>29064731
bruh im not saying it's bad. i'm saying it's not broken so it should be allowed because i fucking want it to happen

>>29064730
That's a different anon that came out of nowhere.

I don't see a problem with my proposed change. It keeps things more balanced

I'm more excited for Solarbeam Lapras to be honest. Also Mind Reader + Fissure Poliwrath, Hydro Pump Kabutops, and Metronome everything.

>>29064368
>What are ability capsules

>>29064641
Snorlax with headbutt.

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>>29064893
>tfw ability capsules are removed in Gen 7 just because of this

>>29064509
I wouldn't be surprised if they made this change, since OHKO moves already ignore most hit rate modifiers.

Eevee from pokemon yellow has focus energy.

>>29064893
>>29064938
ACs dont change HAs

>>29064872
>I don't see a problem with my proposed change. It keeps things more balanced
you still havent answered my question if your proposal still makes OHKO moves land ON No Guard users

>>29065011
Rb vapereon with mist.

>>29065019
No idea

>>29065065
Certain grass pokemon had acid in gen 1 but later removed.

>>29063578
Imagine if moves kept to the gen1 mechanics after transfer
>no hyper recharge after a KO
>90% accuracy blizzard

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>>29065096
So you don't want No Guard users to land OHKO moves but want them to get hit by OHKO moves?

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>>29065121
Pls

>>29065135
What? No. I said I don't know how it currently effects them

>>29065112
Pikachu with swift.

>>29065140
>physical hyper beam

>>29063578
You won't be able to use it neither on Smogon (aside from AG which is total shit) nor on Battlespot unless you play unranked, which is the same casual shitfest as Smogon's AG.

>>29063578
>machamp becomes meta
>literally any other pokemon with a OHKO is faster than him and put in every team to counter him

machamp is just too shit

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>>29063578
>no one realizes that Machamp will have its ability changed come Sun and Moon.

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>>29065472
>Huge Power

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And then you find out gen 1 mons have don't get abilities when transferred to gen 7

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>>29065497
>Huge Power No Guard
a fate worse than death

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>>29065540
>Huge Power No Guard
bruh

anyway, just imagine Huge Power Bullet Punch. How can fairies even compete?

>>29065589

>tfw no Mach Punch

Literally why?

>>29065664
as a final fuck you to fairies before he goes down

>>29065528
Or theyll make machamp have HA so you cant capsule to noguard

Machamp used Smack Down!

>>29065589
>no Star Platinum skin for Machamp
Why live?

When did someone state that machamp was going to get fissure or something? Is the OP just making assumptions out of his ass?

>>29065880
VC can transfer mons into SM

>>29066002
Oh, didn't knew it, anon.

So, something really interesting can be brought aside from machamp?

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More bodies to put in bags for Talonflame

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>>29066093
>More bodies to put in bags for Talonflame

can't they just update no guard to not affect accuracy modification of OHKO moves? plenty of abilities have been updated in the past

>>29066120
They could, but /vp/ is too autistic to consider this seriously.

i think they should just let it happen, just to fuck with us

>>29066160
i mean we have z-moves that are practically OHKOs for fucks sake

How broken is Volcanion?
You can find out but only if you're quick.


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>>29066209
I love you so much anon

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>>29066245

>>29066245
what abilities would help the regis

>>29066334
make your own threads pls

>>29066026
I've gone over the changes in depth.

The only other notable transfers are Low Kick Dodrio and this being the first time you've been able to get Softboiled Mew in over a decade.

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>>29066093
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I love Machamp