>"On the official Japanese website, along with the demo

>>28959139
For Comparison, XY was 1.7 GB.
that means SM is just barely off from being literally twice as big as XY.

also for comparison, ORAS was 1.8 GB

So GF for some reason left the whole game inside the demo again.
Then the 18th we're going to know literally everything about the game as soon it gets datamined.

>>28959139
>3.2GB
whoa that's a lot
source?

>>28959164
>Demo is 400MB
>Game is 3.2GB

>hurrr they left the whole game in

Shut up

>>28959164
the demo is only 400 MB
The reason it may not be enough is because between a single copy of either Sun or Moon, the Demo, and the minimum stock stuff on a 3DS, a 4 GB card would be filled, you would have to dedicate that machine to Sun or Moon.

>>28959139
Im an idiot. Can someone explain to me if I can just get a new sd and put the game and demo on that or if your system is tied to one card or some shit?

>>28959265
Its tied to one card, however if you get a card with a larger capacity you can simply copy and paste the contents of the old card onto the new one if you have a way to read SD cards with your computer.

maybe dumb Q but if demo is 400MB is it likely there won't be anything to data mine? well I guess their would be some traces of things

>>28959318
ORAS was 1.8 GB and its Demo was 250 MB, having cut out all models that weren't relevant to the demo, but leaving absolutely everything else in.

>>28959172
They left everything important in, as in the pokemon. Including typings, names and movesets.

>>28959139
>3.2GB
Jesus Christ

Any idea what would make the game so fucking big?

how do I check how big the SD card in my 3ds XL is

I never changed it

>>28959380
the overworld graphical improvements probably

>>28959380
The graphical update would cover about half that increase.
Might mean we have a large number of new pokemon, a large number of different NPC trainers, a large overworld, or some sort of combination.

>>28959342
oh ok I haven't been on a new pre-release hype train since BW cuz reasons

>>28959392
If you've never checked it, its probably the default 2 GB one

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Jesus hog fucking christ

>>28959342
So, would the pokedex sprites still be in?

>>28959485
Yes.
That's how we knew what Hoopa Unbound looked like before ORAS released.

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>>28959139
I'm legit drooling. The 18th can't come faster.
I know galf might be just cause the new models, BUT STILL.

>>28959380
Kanto postgame

>>28959187
>>28959172

What about support data and estimated sizes for upcoming patches?

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>>28959538

>>28959551
We don't know.

>>28959172
ORAS was 1.8GB, while the demo was 250 MB

>>28959538
Goddamn That would be special, even if it was just Vermillion. All of southern Kanto would be more than enough to see fully realized in 3D: Lavendar Town, Fushia City and Cinnabar.

>>28959187
You could simply just get a bigger size card.
I've preordered the Solgaleo/Lunala new 3ds XL but I'm replacing the 4GB card with a 32GB one.

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>>28959139
>buying digital versions

>>28959614
I already have a 16 GB in my N3DS, (though I'm thinking of getting a 64 GB one for my O3DS since I installed CFW on it) so its fine.
I was simply explaining why Nintendo suggested that a 4 GB card may not be enough for both the game and the demo.

>>28959538
Kalos if anything but i wouldnt count for either

>>28959357
GF wouldn't be dumb/lazy enough to not make sure the game couldn't be datamined again would they?

>>28959881
They may not feel like its worth the effort to remove that stuff.
ORAS is on track to being the best selling remake, iirc, so its not like they have a reason to believe the leak affected sales.

remember that size DOES matter!

>>28959139
That means more cobweb

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>>28959538
Yes please

>>28959139
If you take into account better graphics, 3d battle models for NPCs and super long ass animation for Z-moves its not weird at all

More fluff but doesnt mean more stuff

I bet those long ass Z-Moves cinematic take all that space. Eve was like half a minute...

>>28959139
Well that was to be expected, since the new overworld and character models are much bigger and thus have a larger file size than the ones in XY.

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>>28959944
Honestly it doesnt look THAT much different in many cases

The best looking are cutscenes, the overworld looks better but its not a colosal change

>>28959978
This.
It certainly accounts for a large part, but lets not pretend it explains a literal doubling on its own.
I ain't saying it means 200 new pokemon and 2 regions or anything, but I do think it means the theory of 100 new pokemon is more likely than the more pessimistic 70

>>28959944
Not necessarilly, no. 3D models are very light files. What takes more space is usually textures.

Even taking all that into account, that seems like quite a big game, and hopefully lots of content.

>>28960020
100 new Pokémon wouldn't double the size.

>>28960034
But there could also be a larger post-game area. Lets say the main game is the same as XY, instead of just that one extra town for the post game, we may actually get new routes to explore like in DP or BW.

>>28960031
>Even taking all that into account, that seems like quite a big game, and hopefully lots of content.

Thing is the map is quite small and we know everything about it already, even the sprout island. The only cloud are in the corners so i doubt there's anything there.

Unless there's a whole second half of the map i cant see more land being in the game

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this game will break the mold in terms of how much content it delivers for a "first game" in any given generation. Mark my words!

Have you praised and hailed your saviour Ohmori today?

>>28959139
Many large high society and the character models, and therefore, because it is larger than the size in XY file, then it is to be expected.

>>28960072
The map wasn't to scale, and they probably exaggerated things of interest rather than try and show litterally everything.
We've already seen in gameplay that routes are bigger than they look on the map, and that's not even including the inside of buildings, forests or caves, or fuck even places underwater.

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>>28960148
I think you're wrong here at least in some parts

Take that beach on Akala island and then watch the Pyukumuku job teaser. The beach looks exactly like it does on the map and its even smaller than the map would imply.

Sure caves and inside building arent on the map obviously but that doesnt mean they're super large

In fact many parts of the game look pretty small

B A T T L E
F R O N T I E R

KALOS
POSTGAME

>>28960236
>>28960244
YES PLEASE and POKEMON WORLD TOURNAMENT

One can dream

>>28959538
End this forced meme now.

>>28960474
What did he mean by this?

>>28959881
I wouldn't have thought so, but at the same time it's very difficult to remove all traces of the data.

They'll most likely scrub the names of all Pokemon/moves not in the demo, but they can't remove them entirely. Meaning we will at least know how many new Pokemon there are. We might even be able to figure out new move/ability effects.

>>28960474
Text doesn't take up much room, not even Chinese. All the NPC scripts together are probably less than 5MB for each language.

>>28959163
Remember that SM has more detailed overworld 3d models

FUCK I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE 1.8GB AGAIN

How long is codename STEAM? I need to finish some pirated vidya fast

>>28959626
>buying
>he STILL hasn't hacked his 3ds
I'll probably buy the cart too at some point.

>>28959626
why would you get the physical version of the new yokai? you get a different special move while downloading gives you a yokai unavailable in-game.

it would be like buying a physical copy of pokemon because it comes with a tm instead of downloading and getting a mew or some shit

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>>28959139
>3.2gb

>>28960898

gonna buy the steel books and not open them

and just download them online to my sd card

>>28959139
>twice XY filesize
>BRUH 140 NEW POKEMON

lmao fuckin faggots get ready to be btfo its only 80

>>28960954
why would I want a mew anon

>>28959139
HE'S BIGGER

>>28960989
Where did he say 140 new Pokémon? Quit sucking Riddler's stir fry noodle anon for one fucking second and read

>>28959139
>Youkai Watch 3 was only 2.7GB

POKEMON WINS AGAIN

>>28959163
So kalos as post game confirmed?!

Apparently some frenchie on Twitter has the demo but has now made his Twitter private

>>28960999
pokedex? you can't trade yokai so i suppose technically it would be a pokemon that hasn't been released yet.

>>28960474
do you really think Mandarin text alone would take up over 1.5gb of space? Heck X/Y had 7 languages to choose from, two of which having their own script (Korean and Japanese) and with all that, the games only came out to 7gb.

>>28961604

dammit...1.7gb.

>>28959538
That's what it's going to be. This is the anniversary after all.

>>28959380
World Tournament coming back maybe? All those models would take up a lot of space.

>>28961635
god I hope so. Can you imagine? Kanto with upgraded 3DS level graphics for the first time? It would be incredible.

>>28961682
>can you imagine? kanto with retarded megas, z-moves and shitty shauna tier writing everywhere?

Leave Kanto alone
Go pander to Kalos or another lastgen shit
Stop ruining the old days with stupid megas and alolan forms already

>>28960474
can we please kill the "quote every single post in the thread" meme

>>28959380
Content

>>28959380
My theory is that we'll be getting around 90-120 new pokemon, with the post-game involving DP or BW exploration.
And if The Riddler is being as straight forward as usual, the Battle Frontier might have something to do with it.

>>28961746
>with the post-game involving DP or BW exploration.

stop being retarded

>>28961746
This is of course based on the idea that about half that space is due to graphical improvements.

>>28961755
What's so retarded about that, of all things?
Expecting to actually have some new routes to explore, comparing it to other generation introduction games, hardly sounds like it should be called retarded.
If anything, the Battle Frontier comment would potentially warrant the retard award.

>>28961721
You have to admit there is a decent size chance of it happening. From the Gen I pandering with Kanto pokemon having Alolan forms, the fact that this is the 20th anniversary of the franchise, and the fact that the islands seem kinda small....if there was any generation of game (after Gen II) that would have Kanto as a second region, this would be it.

>>28961771
eh IDK, it seems too soon for B/W, and diamond and Peal will probably get their own remakes.

>>28961827
Anon... I meant the type of post-game, not literally exploring Sinnoh or Unova.

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It's going to be great, isn't it?

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>>28961746
>post-game involving DP or BW exploration

>>28961837
literally the best game ever, no ifs and buts about it

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>>28961837
FUCK OFF TO ANOTHER EXPLORATION TEAM BIDOOF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>28960979
How did you do that to the png

I lost hope in Kalos post-game after the Zygarde scavenger hunt being announced for within Alola, but this file size reveal has revamped my belief in it. Sun and Moon were developed alongside X and Y so it would make sense.

>>28960474
That's litterally just text you retard, that only takes room if there's a dub, and we already know there isn't. Also even if it did take room in would fucking double the size of the file.

>>28960850
Last time they left in everything, just deleted animations and models.
So chances are, they'll do that again.

>>28961746
My guess is ~130ish.
Here's why:
>G1: 151
>G2: 100
>G3: 135
>G4: 107
>G5: 156
>G6: 72
>G7: 42 currently spoiled
Going by how many they've spoiled and how many they spoiled for G6...
And the fact that every odd gen pushes 150 while every even is about 100...
Gen7 should be anywhere from 130~150.

>>28961734
>Modern pokémon games
>Content
Did Gen VI teach you nothing? All this size is wasted on pointless graphics fluff and you know ir.

>>28961984
>M-MUH PATTERNZ!!!!!!!!

Please fucking end your life fucking dumbass.

>>28961986
Everyone is always bitching about the graphics looking the same, wouldn't that mean the size CAN'T come from graphics fluff ?

>>28961986

Have you watched the games trailers? The graphics (specifically pokemon sprites and buildings) don't look much better than ORAS.

Anyone else on that 75,000+ blocks free tier? Hell I might download both sun and moon just to fill this bad boy up.

>>28959172
>ORAS demo 250MB
>ORAS game 1.8GB
>entire game is still datamined from the demo

hurr shut up

>>28962076
they will never look better because the 3DS is crap
but just the fact the overworld is more complex and everything has proper models instead of chibi crap now will probably bite a good third or more of that filesize

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>>28961016
>stir fry noodle
Fucking lost it

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Wow, that's honestly pretty huge.

IIRC, 3DS carts max out at 4GB, and only a small handful of games have ever broken the 3GB mark, only about 8 or 10 or so, and some of the notable ones that have were ports from dual-layer DVD console games like Snake Eater or Xenoblade.

Wasn't expecting it to be nearly twice the size of X/Y.

>>28962225
From what I hear, the max space is 8GB.

>>28962225
Probably just has a lot of music

>>28962307
You have a lot of music

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>>28959139
Can I get the preorder bonuses by digitally preordering through my 3DS?

>>28962225
Fuck, this is probably because i'm not a genius but i'm amazed at how they made Xenoblade, a 9gb game from the wii into a less than 4gb game in the 3ds, did they cut something, like songs?

>>28961849
>bidoof used headbutt
>not very effective
>jirachi used iron head
>bidoof fainted
>game over


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>28962322
What preoder bonuses?, the snorlax is a gift for all the people that play the game in the first month

well, regardless of what makes this game so much larger than its predecessors, I think we should all agree that there must be a sizable amount of post-game content. ORAS had the Delta episode and that game was 1.8gb

>>28960196
Shut the FUCK UP
You CANNOT know in any way what the map could be like in terms of scale or size. It could be as massive as the Johto-Kanto combined region in GSC or even as massive as Sinnoh, PROBABLY LARGER.
THERE ARE OVER 4 LAND MASSES in the visible map and each one has MULTIPLE CHALLENGES. That equals at least 2-3 cities PER ISLAND and that's not even counting things like ROUTES, CAVES, DUNGEONS, FORESTS and perhaps even new terrain that we have never seen in a Pokemon game before.
The point is, you cannot just shitpost these "predictions" of yours in a thread WITH NO BASIS WHATSO FUCKING EVER that you have any idea what you are even talking about.
Now that we know the size of the game it's likely that Sun and Moon are the LARGEST POKEMON GAME EVER MADE, and Alola will be the LARGEST REGION EVER SEEN in Pokemon.
But don't take my word for it. I'll wait until you are blown the fuck out when the game drops this November. Me, I'll be having the time of my life, crawling through the incredible mazes and dungeons of a brand new tropical region, encountering Pokemon the world has never seen before, and unraveling the mysteries of the Ultra Beasts, while you sit in your CORNER like the defeated fucking idiot you are, thinking "I told them it would be small, I saw that beach video, fuck you gamefreak what a FUCKING LOSER I am, may as well never post again"
YOU CAN LEAVE NOW, and just throw your trainer hat out while you're at it. We will not miss you.

>>28962462
I actually quite like that episode but it's not exactly bursting with content. the ride is over in a few hours

>>28961890
This x10

>>28961890
Wait what?

>>28961001
It's a good effort but the meme is dead

>>28961912
Yeah but back then they didn't foresee the data mining. Now they are aware of it, I'm pretty sure they will take SOME measures to prevent everything about the game being leaked a month early.

>>28962473
I can't wait to see your hype turn into disappointment, and your disappointment turn into anger.

Gen VII will have the saltiest most annoying haters.

>>28962473
Wow

You should get some help

>>28962473
While I agree that they are jumping to conclusions, you're reaction is going too far, to the point that I feel you'll hate the games if they aren't perfect. be careful about overhype.

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>tfw you have 28,000 blocks left

>>28962473
If I'm BTFO I'll be happy as fuck and play the shit out of it. I really want these games to be so much better than I expect them to be.

On the other hand, if they don't live up to your insanely high expectations, you will be the one crying of frustration in a corner and angrily shitposting about how horrible it is.

>>28962388
No they mostly just made it look like shit.

>>28962707
>overhype
Pokemon Sun and Moon already have my
>favorite new Pokemon
>favorite new protagonists
>favorite setting
>favorite legendaries
>favorite professor
>favorite enemy team

There is literally nothing to worry about and I am LITERALLY hawaiian

Wouldn't the z-move animations take up a lot?

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>that guy who doesn't buy the games physical

>>28962896
No. Stop asking this.

>>28962884
Brother, pls. Go get a spam musubi and calm down.

>>28960143
>Many large high society and the character models, and therefore, because it is larger than the size in XY file, then it is to be expected.
What?

>>28963042
Non-native speaker here, and I concur, I have no idea what he said.

>>28962896
nah I wouldn't think so. besides, only a select few pokemon have them (starters/pikachu/eevee and probably rockruff)

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>>28960143
Ah, I understand now.

>>28959881
Never underestimate the incompetance/not-caring potential of Japanese development. It took until the last batch of Sm4sh dlc characters for Nintendo to suddenly start dummying out incoming files to prevent datamining spoilers.

>>28963127
Ah yes, I remember Sm4sh DLC leaks.
I wounder how people would have reacted to the Roy/Ryu trailer if it wasn't leaked.

Honestly, knowing Nintendo, I wouldn't be surprised if it's that huge because it includes a random badly compressed episode or two from the anime as an unlockable... and I don't mean from season 1.

>>28963777
>knowing Nintendo

triggered

>>28959277
Is that really it? Just copy and paste it by the computer? Will my themes, patches/updates, virtual games' saves, Pokemon Bank, mii plaza, FCs and Nintendo Network ID all stay intact?

I'm planning on getting a 32 GB sd card today since my sd card is only 2 GB, and I'm terrified about loosing my data since I've never done this before.

>>28961810
It won't happen. There's no fucking reasons for this to happen.
Also, they said previous non-Alola forms could only be obtained through previous games.

>>28961721
>ruining

You mean fixing

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>>28959139
>Mfw i just got home after i bought a 16gb sd, i start browsing /vp/ and find this thread

>>28964476
just make sure the nes card is in the right format.

>>28964794
How do you figure that out?

how do you check how much space is taken up on your ds?

I have a 2ds that I don't really use for much besides kirby, Pokemon and FE. I also have yellow and bank on it which prolly takes up some space.

>>28959614
My nigga. I also preordered it, but I was wondering if I should just wait til the 28th when the system comes out before downloading the demo since it will be tied to one SD card and I don't feel like buying a bigger card for the 3DS XL I have already since I don't plan on using that for my playthrough

>>28964476
Look up a guide to transferring your 3DS data from one SD card to another. I did all this before and all that kind of data was still intact. There's nothing to be worried about.

>>28962388
No dual audio.

And some stuff got downgraded to run on N3ds, aside that same thing. But still impressive how they made run on the damn thing

>>28959139
>3.2GB
>Has a 64GB SD card in 3DS already
>Won't even make a dent

Step up your game pokemon

>>28964948
>Settings
>Data Management
>3DS
>Software

If you have an SD card installed it'll say how many blocks are free. I have just over 57k free, for example.

>>28965412
How much is a 64GB SD card gonna run me senpai

>>28965601
how about you fucking google it

>>28965611
>using Google

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>>28965711
>shitposting

>>28965601

A good one from a trusted place? About $25-30, less than the game itself.

>>28959139
It's probably heavily due to poor optimization.

It's a good thing I invested in a large and reliable SD card early on before X/Y came out. Never gonna run into storage issues.

>>28959166
>On the official Japanese website

Doing any sorts of math and going for the worst case scenario, nothing from what we were shown is capable of taking up anymore space then 2.3-2.4GBs of memory. Even when taking into consideration that BW is somehow double the size of platinum.

>>28966900
Platinum to BW is probably because of the fully animated sprites
I think those took even more space than the models they're using now

>>28962859
A lot of people don't realize the difference between memory and processing limitations. About 90% of what qualifies as "graphics" takes up very little memory. A untextured 3D model itself, for example, is smaller in filesize than a sprite. It's the textures that eat up most of the graphical memory. The same goes for things like lighting engines and shit. The reason they have to be downgraded isn't because the cart isn't big enough, but because the N3DS just can't handle running them.

The main graphical reduction to make Xenoblade fit into a N3DS cart was downgrading the textures, which wasn't too big of a deal on such a tiny screen.

Wait. Does all 3.2 store on the SD card when starting the game or no? I thought the data was stored in the game card itself

>>28967427
That and they probably haf no idea whst they were doing with Castelia. God knows that the royal unova sequence was probably huge in filesize.