/vp/ BTFO http://kotaku.com/starter-pokemons- feminine-evol

>kotaku
kys

>>28957863
Don't even click it guys, it just gives them ad revenue.

Way ahead of you

>>28957833

>>28957885
>implying i would ever click it

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>>28957863
>kotaku
>ever

Reminder that you idiots are the only reason people like her can make a career out of this

Without neckbeards sperging out they have nothing to justify themselves with

>>28957885
>>28957893
Im boutta click it

>kotaku
didn't even click

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>28957893
good then, anon. I need to get software to blacklist kotaku and SJW sites like that. There was a program/addon somewhere i think.

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>>28957885
jokes on them! I have adblock!!!

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>>28957863
>kotaku
>Patricia Hernandez

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>Kotaku

Protip for the shaved gorilla that wrote the article, people don't hate feminine pokemon. They hate ugly pokemon like Brionne

>>28957885
>implying people don't use ad blockers

>>28957863
Great, next I bet tumblr is gonna whine about gamer "toxic masculinity". Again.

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>kotaku

>>28957915
>Patricia Hernandez

Why do people hate her so much?

>>28957899
I honestly believe that there is an incredibly small minority of people who are somewhat disturbed by this, but then again, you cant have a perfect world. The rest of the complaints are shitposts meant to bait others. And this retarded "journalist" is creating a non-issue.

>>28957919
>ugly Pokemon like Brionne
>Gardevoir image
Lol

>>28957926
You forget, everyone hates kotaku, even tumblr.

>>28957938
Probably some gamergate related issue

>>28957897
>>28957915
>>28957935
>m-muh screencaps

>>28957863
SMASH EM, HULKSTER

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>>28957863
>>28957902
Just came back from kotaco
Its actually a brionne defense squad article.
Very clickbaity.
Title is Misleading.
Typical argument.
Just shut this thread down folks.
Oi shut it down.

>>28957863
I've seen people talk about this article before, and was always curious who wrote it, because it's obviously retarded click bait.

But then I remember
>kotaku

Now I also know who atleast
>Patricia "the Gorilla" Hernandez

Also
>linking kotaku
Back to r/pokemon with you autismo

>>28957938
Is it not obvious?

>>28957863
Not even clicking but
>it's okay when Braixen does it

>>28957938
Cause shes an ugly abomination that writes horrible click bait shit for kotaku.

>>28957913
>>28957925
They gain revenue based on views so adblock means jack shit.

>>28957902
boi he bout to click it

>>28957863
Why is feminine in quotes like that? I mean it's clearly a feminine looking design, whether you actually like the design or not has no bearing.

>>28957863
Not clicking that link, Patricia.

>>28957863
No one got BTFO by a kotaku article. Who cares?

>>28958148

But what defines femininity?

>>28958266
looking faggoty like tranny clown

>>28957885
>revenue
stop this buzzword

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It's mainly the pink pupil that bothers me.

I thought the hulkster leg dropped those weak nerds.

>>28957863
>BTFO by Kotaku
>BTFO by Patricia Hernandez no less
What the fuck are you smoking?

>>28957942
Most people here are upset because it confirms the leaks even more. You think /vp/ would be upset about having more fapfodder if it didn't mean being wrong? They take that anger and forward it to other places too.

>>28957938
>>28957966
It's because her articles are bottom of the barrel garbage. Garbage beyond MUH ESSJAYDUBBYA nonsense. Such as a collection of gifs celebrating Shepard's birthday, or an article on why she doesn't like to eat Doritos or Cheetos.

>>28958373
He took out Gawker's main site alongside a gay business man.

The smaller ones will fall soon enough. Just give it time.

>>28957996
>Implying I've been in a coma.
/vp/ isn't exactly the best place for this doc.

>Brionne "Literally" Who
No wonder Shitaku is whiteknighting.

>>28957863
Fuckin' jesus, why is Patricia still doing game """journalism"""?

>>28957863
>Patricia Hernandez

And into the trash it goes. She sniffs around looking for people to practically write her articles for her and base them off a handful of posts.

>>28957938
her """"""""""articles""""""""""" offer zero insight, are based off the comment sections of blogs, and are mostly based on feminist views--not feminism in the original sense, but tumblr/degenerative feminism

>>28957902
My finger is on the button

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>>28957863
>Kotaku
>Patricia "I'm a fucking scumbag that hates gamers" Hernandez

negro please

>>28958769
so, the id rather have cancer kinda of feminism

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>>28957863
Implying boys cannot play dress up wearing dresses

>>28957899
It's just a journalist talking about fan reactions to the new pokemon.

You guys are fucking hopeless.

>>28957863
And where is the article called "Starter Pokemons "Masculine" Evolution Is Bothering Some Fans" with Luchalitten?

>>28959113
Spotted the beta autist nigger sperglord faggot micropenis cuck goy dhimmi kafir bernie supporter. Don't worry, I won't talk to you or your wife's son ever again.

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>>28957863
>Patricia Hernandez
Why am I not surprised?

>>28957863
oh no i'm too manly for this hurr durr

>>28959151
Na, these threads are cancer and the comments are always the same. It's not worth engaging in a stupid culture war over.

>>28959113
I see you use the term """"journalist"""" lightly

>>28957863
>kotaku
Shove that clickbait turd up your ass and hang yourself, faggot.

>>28957863
Fuck off with your clickbait

>>28959345
Don't you have a bull to prep?

>>28957885
They don't even make money, it's just a propaganda outlet sustained by money transfers from the big tech companies that purchase these sites.

>>28957863
Kotaku should have gone down with Gawker.

>>28957863
To be honest I'm more pissed at that one guy who thinks Dartrix is emo instead of the whole "brionne is feminine" shit.

I mean come on, it's a monster, why the fuck would it correspond to human norms ?

>>28957919
>Gardevoir with tits in pic
>expects his opinion to be taken seriously

>>28957899
I haven't sperged out but I don't like it either
I've never picked up Chicorita and I'll never pick up trannyseal either
and no, the reason she can have a career like this is because SJWs eat this shit up
>>28959113
>journalist
HAHAHAHHAHA

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>kotaku
>Patricia Hernandez

>>28957863
Is there also an article from her about people, that want to fuck it?

>>28957863
She's right tough.

>>28958836
YAMERO!!!

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>>28957885

>>28957863
Why do you link that trash site here. Brionne is heavily feminine eventhough all starters before were more neutral gendered and people is pissed because of that.

>kotaku
I just came here to tell you to neck yourself. Have a nice day.

>>28959078
I'll love my girlybro

>>28960454
I like the evolution line and will pick popplio though

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>>28957863
Mr. Mod tear down this thread

>now even being feminine is bad
No pleasing these freaks. Just ignore it.

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>tfw feminist
>tfw get associated with people like this

>>28960717
It's ((((CURRENT YEAR)))) if you aren't just calling yourself an egalitarian then you deserve everything you get. Feminists have allowed their own movement to be hijacked through inaction and without fighting back.

>>28960717
>>28960831
Feminists are just girls well off girls with too much time on their hands.

Egalitarians are deluded people who think everyone's equal.

Fuck off my board, scum.

>>28957863
Use archive.is

>>28960909
This isn't your board autist

>>28960939
Not a fucking argument, scum, fuck off.

>>28957863
>linking to kokatu

fuck off

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http://archive.is/8RmuJ

Poor Popplio can’t catch a break. First people hated Sun and Moon’s water starter because it was considered ugly. Yesterday, Game Freak revealed Popplio’s evolution, Brionne, leading some fans to feel like they have even more reason to dislike the evolution line.

The problem? Brionne looks too ‘feminine.’ On social media, people are criticizing Brionne’s dress-like design, along with its daintiness, for giving the Pokemon too much of a female air:

The main thing detractors are citing is that Popplio can be both a female or a male monster—so they dislike that the evolution seems to lean too heavily in a specific direction, rather than appearing ‘neutral.’ Others may not outright hate Brionne’s design, but they still feel confused about its ‘feminine’ appearance:

“I don’t know how I feel about the design, I just, I can’t get over—why would you make a starter so affectionately feminine?” said TheKingNappy, in a reaction video that mirrors a sentiment shared by some other YouTubers and commenters. “I don’t get it.”

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The curious thing is, this type of design decision is nothing new for Pokémon. Some monsters are visually coded in a way that could be perceived very specifically (like Gardevoir, another Pokémon who appears to wear a dress), but the creatures will still available in a male and female form. Heck, Hitmonchan is a Pokémon that straight-up looks like it’s wearing a dress or skirt, but only actually exists as a male Pokémon. Machoke and Machamp are very beefy creatures, but that doesn’t mean the ‘mons are only males. In the real world, some people may choose to adhere closely to stereotypical gender norms, but when it comes to Pokémon designs, it’s not always as clear-cut. A dress-like design does not outright mean a Pokémon can only exist in the female form, and honestly, that should be considered a GOOD thing, not a threatening thing or a confusing thing. There’s no harm in it, other than letting a cute thing be cute.

While some fans cite gameplay reasons for their distress, the underlying issue is clear: looking feminine is unfortunately considered a bad thing by some people. After all, femininity has stigma, including the assumption that it embodies weakness, vapidity, or meekness. By looking ‘feminine,’ Brionne isn’t afforded the chance to also be considered ‘cool’ or ‘strong’ by some people, and that sucks.

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On the other end of the spectrum, we’ve now also got people rushing to Brionne’s defense, citing it’s femininity as a reason to cherish the monster. Just like Popplio gained a large defense squad after the initial backlash, Brionne also seems to be gaining a steady group of supporters who love it just the way it is. By the time you read this, Brionne’s cheering squad may actually outnumber the haters.

“Brionne always acts cheery and positive,” the official Pokemon lore states. “Even when [Brionne is] feeling sad, this Pokémon doesn’t allow its sorrow to show.”

Despite the bashing, I can picture Brionne standing tall, chest puffed out, happily standing by its trainer’s side. You may dislike Brionne for how it looks, but you’ll never gain the satisfaction of seeing it down because of it.

>>28960955
Sorry if I can't take retards who demand I get off "their board" seriously when I've been here longer than pretty much any of them

But by all means, continue sperging. I'm sure you'll convince the other guy.

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>>28960986
The problem? Goodra looks too ‘fem.i nine.’ On social media, people are criticizing Goodra's woman-like design, along with its daintiness, for giving the Pokemon too much of a fem-ale air:

The main thing detractors are citing is that Goomy can be both a fe,m ale or a m.ale monster—so they dislike that the evolution seems to lean too heavily in a specific direction, rather than appearing ‘neutral.’ Others may not outright hate Goodra's design, but they still feel confused about its ‘f3 mi nine’ appearance:

“I don’t know how I feel about the design, I just, I can’t get over—why would you make a pseudolegendary so affectionately fe.min ine?” said TheKingNappy, in a reaction video that mirrors a sentiment shared by some other YouTubers and commenters. “I don’t get it.”

>>28958440
>Such as a collection of gifs celebrating Shepard's birthday, or an article on why she doesn't like to eat Doritos or Cheetos.
I don't know Patricia or Kotaku but shit like this should never be accepted as paid work, anywhere.

>>28961004
>On the other end of the spectrum, we’ve now also got people rushing to Brionne’s defense
She's right about one thing, people that care about this are on the spectrum

>>28960504
>Mods
>/vp/

Hell, is hard to say if they exist. It's like legendary pokemon before gen 4.

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>>28957863
>Reading Kotaku "articles"

>>28957863
>Looking feminine is unfortunately considered a bad thing by some people.
Stopped reading right there.

>>28958361
The pupils are black. The irises are pink. Please get an education.

>>28958116
what.

do you think that views magically create money out of the blue?

>>28961257
I wouldn't rule it out that some chads and underaged fags have a probleme with exactly that.

>>28957966
dude she was hated way before that even started.

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>>28961005
You can say you've been on this board for 1000 years but that still gives me the right to call you scum for having shitty view. So, fuck off my board, scum.

>>28960454
>and people is pissed because of that.
I don't recall people getting mad at the Ralts evolutionary line for looking like a girl.

Or Jynx.

Or Lopunny.

Or any other girly-looking pokemon.

>>28961257
But that is literally what people are mad about.

>>28961419
>Or Lopunny.
They kind of did with the comparisons with playboy bunnies but that wasn't specifically because lopunny was a girl.

I don't like it for being "feminine", I dislike it because it's ugly.

>>28957996
>20 year coma
Holy shit doc, just fucking kill me already. You should have pulled the plug after the second year.

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>>28960986
>>28961000
>>28961004

What complete and utter trash. I can't believe I just wasted my time reading this.

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Would you?

>>28961557

Would I what, euthanize it?

>>28957863
>Hitmonchan wears a dress!
>never heard of togas
GJ Kotaku

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>By looking ‘feminine,’ Brionne isn’t afforded the chance to also be considered ‘cool’ or ‘strong’ by some people, and that sucks.

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>>28957996

>>28961628
>doesn't know the different between a toga and a tunic

WHAT DOES SHE MEAN """""SOME PEOPLE"""""?? Just because the black community hates gays and other sweet ass niggas doesn't mean she should fucking discriminate.

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>>28961335
This is the picture kotaku used, it has a pink pupil. This is probably why >>28958361
got confused.

>>28961368
Clicking ads, purchasing and views yes.
>Do you think that views magically create money
No, but they definitely get a lot of people money and through a not so magical way.

>>28961794
>being a weavilefag

kys autisteckworks

>>28961847
Dude wut?

>>28957955
mega kys

>>28959122
Underrated post and idea.

>>28961385
>>28961434
Let's just ignore the facts that there's legit problems with a starter looking feminine that has nothing to do with feminity whatsoever. No, it has to be because it's specifically feminine, not the fact that it's a starter looking feminine. You fucking SJW retards.

>bothering some fans
>every casual dude i know liked it
>kids liked it
>every pokémon website loved how cute it is
>trigglypuffs that never played a game don't like it

Geez....

>>28962344
By trigglypuffs you mean here? From what I gleamed the Kotaku author is defending it.

>>28957863
It bother me a lot because I wanted a male counterpart aka something akin to Ballio.

Is that what the article is about? (No of course not)

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>kotaku
>patricia hernandez
>actually linking there instead of providing a pastebin or the like

goddamn you fucked up OP.

>Hogan didn't kill Kotaku
FIGHT FOR WHAT'S RIGHT

>>28957863
>Kotaku
>Hernandez
please don't

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>>28957863
Is it that time again?

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>>28963261
Maybe metal hogan can help save the day

>>28957863
Ignore these Kotags.

>>28957899
>Without neckbeards sperging out they have nothing to justify themselves with

It's too late, anon. Outrage culture is literally the thing keeping almost all of 4chan alive

>Cucktaku
>Patricia "Dyke" Hernandez

get the fuck out

Writer is only a silly pseudo-feminist anyway, but in this instance, her stance of "Brionne's appearance shouldn't bother you either" is correct. However she comes over as too "I'm winning a war" towards the end instead of trying to be more objective.

Real alpha feminists don't care about whether or not Brionne should look more or less feminine and just love that it's cute.

On the other side, people are allowing their (admittedly justified) hateboner for Hernandez to overshadow the actual discussion of Brionne's supposed feminine appearance mattering, which many people agree with Hernandez's point that it doesn't.

>>28962192
So the problem is still it looking feminine. You said exactly the same as the other two posters

rofl they called out my boi nappy.

>>28957919

Brionne is not ugly, I bet you think Ponies are ugly or that black guys are hot.

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>>28963636
>Brionne's supposed feminine appearance mattering, which many people agree with Hernandez's point that it doesn't.

>pink parts, which as a colour is often associated to feminility
>skirt-like part
>braids
>long eyelashes
>that fucking evo if it's real
>not feminine

GF can pull some clever designs but when it comes to stereotypes they're extremely fucking straightfoward

>>28963636
>her stance of "Brionne's appearance shouldn't bother you either" is correct.
We're talking about pokemon not some real life scandal about racism or homophobia.

Brionne is aimed at little girls and for that reason has such an utter crap of a design. But i bet some media will defend My little Brionne because MUHSOGINY.

>>28965088
i may not be getting what you're saying but i don't think you're getting what he is saying

i don't know this Hernandez guy but hes not saying that many people agree that is doesn't look feminine, hes saying many people agree that it doesn't matter

>>28965093
The world doesn't revolve around you.

>>28964666
Yes, but notice how everyone always brings up non-starters that look girly, when it's a matter of it being a starter specifically that's the issue.

Male gardevoir and Lopunny get a pass because if you think it's weird they're dudes, you can easily just get a female one due to the gender ratios being fairly even, or just ignore it entirely.

A starter is going to be right there. If you want a water type that early? You're going to be stuck reseting for a female unless you want a trap due to the gender ratio. And that's assuming you're going to tolerate blatant waifubait on your team in the first place.

I'm almost positive there would not be an outcry if it was a 50/50 gender split though.

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My problem with it isn't that it's feminine. There are plenty of good, feminine Pokemon.

My problem with it is that it's fucking hideous.

>>28967436
This.
And let's not forget the people complaining about Litt3n and how overly masculine that is. The starters are under much more scrutiny than other pokémon.

I'm so furious about this. I've literally KILLED for less..

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>>28957863
>Author
>Patricia Hernandez

>>28967519

Well, sea lions aren't exactly meant to look pretty, anon, which is why I find Game Freak's efforts to make a "pretty" sea lion goddamn hilarious because the thing's not even a sea lion at this point.

Did she bitch when people complained about Braixen?

>>28967909
Pretty gay response.

>linking to kotaku
Unironically drink bleach.

>>28968098
Are you fucking kidding me?

>>28961368
They show hits to the website to advertisers and thats just as lucrative as displaying ads. How are you this dense.

>>28968137
Seems stupid, why would they pay for advertising they don't get? Surely the number of the times the ads were loaded or clicked are reported, unless the ad alerts the advertiser's server itself when loaded?

>They are only doing it now

>As if Poppmaid never leaked

>complaining

I think it's cuter than Popplio at least

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>tfw like Brionne because I like cute.
>tfw Bronne is now going to be associated Patricia Hernandez

I don't want this.

>>28968551
Same.

>>28968551

Brionne's going to be associated to a lot more things in the near future, anon, it's not like you can prevent it.

Enjoy Brionne being used to promote transsexualism.

>>28960431
They still get money even if you have adblock.

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>>28957863
>literally linking to Kotaku
>not even using an archive

When are they going to die? Why haven't they closed shop after Hogan gave them a death sentence?

>>28957863
I'm so tired of these flippant articles being presented as news. "Some fan somewhere is mad about thing" that's not fucking news or information that is just continued statement of varied human taste. REEEEEE

>>28961385
>>28961434
>>28964666
"Some people" saying something is not a researched unbiased poll of fan outcry. This article is literally taking the complaints of youtube commenters as a source for the asserrion of their claim. There is literally nothing to be upset about over this article.

Did Braixen have this sort of reaction?

>>28968551

>associated

Patrciai doesn't like it actually

She says she chose it because it looked like a dog and wanted it to be manly

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>>28957863
>>28969169
So wait, it's a """""""""""""""""""""""""""trans""""""""""""""""""""""""""" pokemon but tumblrinas are mad because they wanted it to be manly?

Fucking kek, they will never be satisfied

>>28969169
>it looked like dog
>it's literally a fucking seal

Holy shit every time she makes an article she sounds dumber and dumber

In birds looking like a fabolous diva is seen as sexy to female birds but this is rare in mammals where looking like a raw beast is seen as sexy to female mammals.

So the male look fabolous because their beauty turns on females.

>>28957938
Racism and sexism

>>28969241

It's ironic.

The designs themselves look like they're pandering to little girls but the truth is

The ones who actually like Brionne and Poppmaid are guys

And the ones who actually wanted something other than them are female, also included, the girls that really only wanted something silly looking and clown-like

wew

>>28961402
>my view is better than yours because i say so, that gives me a right to be an asshole!

>>28961402
sperglord caught sperging responds with waifumon reddit reactions, nothing to see here folks

>>28957863
I FUCKING HATE THAT STUPID CUNT I WANT HER DEAD ON THE FUCKING PAVEMENT

>>28969241
>tumblr is one person

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>>28968888
This.

Fuck Kotaku, rot in hell.

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>Patricia Hernendez
>Journalism

mfw

>>28957863
Just report and ignore, lads.

>>28957938
clickbaiter spic

People are entitled to any opinion they want. If they don't like it because it's feminine, fine. There is nothing wrong with an opinion.

I do love the quotes around feminine though, that is some funny shit. Something something muh gender roles. Y'all need to get off my lawn.

>>28961794
But weavile doesn't look feminine you fuck