How can Ash exist in the gameverse if he's just a an alternate

He's Red's brother

>>28951517
Because when you trade Pokémon you send your mon to an alternate universe version of yourself. Same thing here.

>>28951517
Red doesn't exist in the Infinity Energy Universe.

>>28951517
>"This is Ash-Greninja. He belonged to a trainer named Ash."
>"Who's Ash?"
>"A trainer who took the Pokemon League challenge in six regions, but never won the champion title."

>>28951641
>"What's a Pokemon League?"
>"an inferior Island Challenge"

>>28951552
>what is Origins
why do you idiots think that the old games never happened in the ORAS universe when it's literally been confirmed otherwise

>>28951517

I can't see it being any different than the Ash's Pikachu that was an event in Gen IV.

This Greninja will have the OT of "Ash" or whatever they call him in your language.

>>28951517
It's not the same Ash, just like Origins Red and game Red aren't the same person.

>>28951641
>"Then, this can't be a very good pokemon."

>>28951552
Why does Blue exist then

>>28951547
THIS

>>28951517

He don't exist in the game.

It's just a cross-canon reference.

If ash's greninja changes form due to his personal bond with it, how can the player character replicate that transformation? Even if the player has a bond with it, why would it still have Ash'a colors and not theirs?

The whole thing doesn't make any sense. It's just a gimmicky give away to promote the show and make kids happy. Don't overthink it.

>>28951815
This. People are taking it too seriously, even saying he's gonna be one of the Island Guardians.

>>28951517
We canon now baby oh yeah

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I don´t think so...

>>28951845
>why would it still have Ash'a colors and not theirs?
Show literally says that it's a coincidence that it looks like Ash.

>>28951856
All aboard the canon ship with ash boys.

>>28951851

I don't take it seriously.

>>28951851
Way too seriously, considering that Ash can't amount to anything but being a hobbo. Expecting him to actually become someone important in the games is... It just won't happen for the same reason he will never win a league. He's not allowed to progress as a character.

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>>28951517
>Hurr durr I don't know that Ash's pokemon have been in the game before

Alright buddy.

>>28951517
You do realize his Pikachu and Team Rocket's Meowth have both appeared in game as event Pokemon, right?

>>28951868
>Show says it coincidentally looks like ash.
>Officially called ash-greninja.

It'll always just be ash in frog form.

>>28951517
The character models in this game are dated as shit. XD and Colloseum had better graphics.

>>28951517
He living in the Demo

He doesn't. It's a wink and a nod from GF and nothing more.

Ash's Pokemon have been given away over Nintendo Network for fucking years. I can't even count how many Ash's Pikachu giveaways we've had.

>>28951547
Thanks, anon

>>28951689
>>28951641

Kek

>>28951517
Jessie, James and Meowth appeared in pokemon yellow, and you received all the starters similar to how Ash did in the anime (squirtle was causing problems, charmander abandoned) I remember being pretty excited about that as a kid. Don't know why everyone is throwing a bitch fit

>>28951990
3DS has less processing power than a N64 and worse resolution than a vacuum tube TV. Nothing can look good on it, no matter how much anyone tries.

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>>28952033
>Don't know why everyone is throwing a bitch fit
That's all /vp/ does

For the kids who grew up watching XY, getting Ash-Greninja is like us getting all three starters in Yellow.

>>28952033
Because they are not kids and everyone thinks Ash is a loser.

>>28951517
What about you stop taking seriously an anime advertising in the games?

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>>28951547
>>28951547
>>28951547
I don't even care what you fags say.

「DIRTY DEEDS DONE DIRT CHEAP」

>>28952033
Because these two kind of idiots exist.

1) Muh lore!

These retards think that games have to stick to a single continuity to be good as they have a bunch of headcanons that they selfishly claim to be real.

2) I'm to old to like anything related to the Ashnime.

These are even worse, these kind of idiots only like one side of the franchise and can't bear the idea of both touching each other. They probably think pokespe is amazing and like edgy adult themes in Pokémon or some kind of weird bullshit so basically they flip their shit harder than meme makers over the dead of a gorilla on the idea of a decent-ish Anime crossover to the games as it would make it crap by association.


Simply put they are nothing but man child throwing a fit over their selfish reasons whole also trying to get people to agree with them.

>>28952073
New console when?

>>28952138
Spring next year my man.

Maybe this isn't something you're meant to read into.

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>>28952122
「DIRTY DIGGERSBY DONE DIRT CHEAP」

>>28952133
T. Manchild throwing a tantrum

>>28952085
Or an Armored Mewtwo. I still want that desu.

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>>28952198
How is he wrong though? Regardless of the anime's quality, the people who freak the fuck out at the tiniest sign of it is pretty retarded. I've seen people here get pissy just for using an anime reaction pic.

Early into the anime there were two trainers besides Gary who kept beating Ash to all his milestones. I always figured Red and Green were these two trainers since Gary was a proxy for Blue and Ash got Pikachu instead of Charmander.

>>28951517
Alain exists in the game universe as well

>>28951751
>Would you like to transfer Ash-Greninja to your Pokemon Sun savefile?

[Yes]
>[No]

>>28952228
Those two actually gave up in their journey real fast, I think they where adressed back when Ash got his magma badge.

>>28951517
Red doesnt exist in the Megas timeline/universe

>>28952182
「DIRTY DIGLETT DONE DIRT CHEAP」

>>28952228
I'm pretty sure an early episode said those two gave up actually.

To be honest I always assumed the abusive guy Ash took Charmander from was one of them.

people are putting way too much autustic thought into this. The devs don't give a shit about universes and canon or whatever the fuck, they just threw something in from the anime so people who watch the anime will play the game and vice versa.

>>28952182
Filthy Axew at a Reasonable Price

>>28952316
Filthy Acts at a Reasonable Pryce

>>28951845
Bond Forms will be based off Trainer's OT.

I can see every starter except the Kanto ones getting Bond Forms. They must have realized it would be futile to try to make the likes of Memeganium and Samurott as good as Mega Venusaur and Mega Blastoise.

plus starters having Bond Forms makes the most sense since they are your first partners.

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>>28952310
This right here. I'm pretty sure (read: hope) most of us realize this and are just shitposting, but I also know there's people genuinely thinking too hard about it.

It's literally just GameFreak saying "Hey kids, do you want to have Ash's Greninja? Now you can!"

>>28952275
IT AINT' ME

>>28951517
If it bonds with YOU, why does it look like Ash? Does that make sense at all?

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>>28952122
Look, it's a JoJofag again

>>28952439
The anime actually pointed out that it looking like Ash was a complete coincidence and it happened with another Greninja a long time ago.

As for the name, Bonnie named it that and everyone else just rolled with it.

>>28952223
>How is he wrong though?
Being right or wrong is independent of whether the post is written down in a manner that reminds one of a manchild throwing a tantrum.

>>28951845
>Professor Sycamore theorizes that Mega Evolution can only be achieved if there is a strong bond between a Trainer and its Pokémon.
>Korrina gives you her Lucario
>It can mega evolve instantly
>It has your OT ID
Always disgusted me

>>28952375
I think it's more that Ash was a big part in the popularity of the series especially in the west so they wanted him to have some kind of representation in the games as more than just the Red clone that he was in Yellow.

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>>28951883
Ash isn't allowed to win a league, because that would mean the end of the anime. But we're not in the anime, are we?

>>28951517
Hoopa appears and gives you the pokeball, its from another dimension where the anime is canon.

>>28952763
It wouldn't mean shit

he could still become a Pokemon Master in a new region

>>28951517
But why would anyone want some loser's pokemon?

>>28952884
To bring out it's potential and use it to kick it's old master's ass.

Just because a character named Ash exists in the game, doesn't mean he has the same history as the Ash from the anime.

>>28952133
"Only MANCHILDREN don't love amour! Pokemon is for adults!"

>>28952832
Yeah I don't get it either, but that's the reason they give,

While Red does not exist in the same way in animeverse, Ash exists in both.

>>28951737
game red and origin red ARE supposed to be the same person you dumbass.

because people that worry about dumb shit like what's 'canon' deserve all the anguish they can be given

The same way Ritchie is an alternate version of Ash and Leaf is an alternate version of Red too.

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>still being ass hurt over nothing.

>>28953207
I want things that are terrible kept out of the games.
How would you feel if Jar Jar Binks got to cameo?

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>>28953331
Mesa a pokemon master annie

>>28953331
Were you dropped as a child? It's a pokemon character appearing in a pokemon game. Jar Jar has nothing to do with anything, because he isn't a fucking pokemon character.

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>>28952341
Fucking kek, didn't even think of that

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>>28952341
「DIRTY DEEDS DONE WITH SHEEP」

>>28951547

>alternate universe

How many A presses you need to make that?

>>28953112
No they aren't you turbo dumbass. Game Red has all three fully evolved starters.Game Red doesn't have a Mega Charizard. Game Red didn't catch Mewtwo. Game Red's starter wasn't even Charmander, it was Pikachu.

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>>28953598
Technically none, but you do need to build up speed for 12 hours

>>28951868
No it doesn't. It says Greninja's bond with Ash is so strong that it takes the appearance of Ash.

The Ash-Greninja from 100 years ago didn't have Ash's hair as frills either. Just the huge Water Shuriken.

>>28953555
Flaaffy Pancake
That's the best one I can think of for this one right now.

>>28951517
Ash is Gen 1
Red is Gen 3 Remake

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>>28953598
Just one

>>28951990
>>28952073

>Retards actually believe in this

>>28951707
Because it confirms that they are different universes.

>>28953773
You mean retard.
I think only one person actually believes that.

>>28952033
Battle Bond makes your Greninja look like some other trainer instead of you, the one he's currently bonding with. You're literally getting cucked, by a loser too.

>>28951547
Then what did Ash get in return?

>>28954819
A second chance.

>>28951517
Ash is Yellow's playable character

>>28954819
A used condom from Serena.

>>28954819
Second place

>>28952274

Pokemon Origins.

>>28952567
>>It has your OT ID

That's just so it doesn't gain boosted exp.

>>28951517
>he's just a an alternate version of Red in the same way that Gary is an alternate version of Blue?
I don't think so.

Remember Ritchie? He's proof that in the animeverse we already have several Ash "clones" established. Also remember that both Red and Ash's fathers are mysteriously absent.

So what I'm saying is, the anime and game universes are the same. Red and Ash aren't counterparts, they're half-brothers. Their dad knocked up at least three, if not countless other women.

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>>28951517

>>28951517
Ash is yellow's MC though lol

>>28952567
Yeah this is pretty fucked, never thought about that.

Strong bonds being a mechanic is sort of stupid if they don't implement any way to enforce it. Maybe it would be neat if you needed to max amie a pokemon before it mega evolved? It would be a little annoying but it would make it feel more special?

>>28956497
>Ash is yellow's MC
He's not though, I won the league in Yellow

>>28953603
Game Red don't have the three starters until HG/SS and we haven't see that in Generations

>>28951707
Origins isn't canon.

Seriously though, is anyone working on the butthurt collage?

>>28957311
>Game Red don't have the three starters until HG/SS
GSC as well, and you can use any Pokemon when you play as him, so that's not true at all.

>>28951815
This. There's a reason why it's only obtainable in the demo. It's not canon, it's just there for shilling.

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>>28953652
I dont get your reaction image can you please explain it to me

>>28953652
That image is fucking stupid; it's only half an A-press to enter a building, since you never have to let go of the button.

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>>28956379
>So what I'm saying is, the anime and game universes are the same

And then there is this retard.

If Ash was canon in the games then nothing makes sense anymore:

Serena is 17-18 during the events of XY games while she's 10 in the anime.

RSE/ORAS May starts her journey with Brendan, not Ash.

Misty actually becomes older in HGSS

Like, they can't exist at the same time.

Seriously, how fucking STUPID are you to miss that?

>>28951517
Because ash is. Front aniitbter dimension

Blue and Gary are cousins, both grandsons of Oak.

Red and Blue were part of the original trio of trainers Oak gave mons to before Ash showed up late.

Is Ash-Greninja worth using over Protean anyway?

>>28959884
Legendary.

>>28961232
It'll presumably have a Mega stat boos,t based on the anime and the trailer showing it fighting Megas. It can hold an item too. The question is do those make it worth losing Protean? Don't ask me, I don't know shit about the meta.

>Ash loses the league
>gives away his Greninja even though they had a super special bond
lmao

>>28961556
Stab on everything is akin to a permanent 1.5x on sp atk.

Soul dew is banned but mega latios isn't

Therefore...

>>28952122
this was the lamest attempt to make a jojo reference i've seen

>>28961556
Battle bond isn't as good as moxie, which gives a 50% boost to the most relevant stat (your attack).

If almost all 100 bonus stat points go into special attack, then yea battle bond is comparable to moxie, maybe slightly better since it can switch out and come back in later with the stat boost.

But is a slightly better or slightly worse moxie worth giving up a consistent 50% boost on your attacks? No fucking way

Because its a fucking video game

>>28951877
ash canon

Ash doesn't exist in the game, but the game player exists both in the game and in the anime. The second to last episode will feature Ash who say farewell to Greninja. I bet that Greininja will follow the SM game player. The demo will be released on Oct 18, the episode two days later.

>>28963312
>I'm sorry Greninja, you don't deserve me as a Trainer. Here, go with this literal who Hawaiian guy

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>>28952122
CHUMIMIIIIIIIIIIIIIN~

>>28952494
>the post is written down in a manner that reminds one of a manchild throwing a tantrum
Are you new here? That's usually how /vp/ posts are written.